Thanks You LM-5. Your efforts really give life to the Apollo Program. You make history a tangible event, something more than a scratchy recording and low resolution photography. You can hear, see and absorb the drama. I just can’t say thank you enough - but I am certain your work will be around for a very long time. Children not yet born will benefit from your work.
I was on shift at Orroral Valley here in Australia and we used to upload commands and download data from the ALSEP installations installed on the lunar surface by the astronauts. A lot of responsibility at 23 years of age and the best job I’ve had.
Two Apollo 16 videos in 2 days. Pure bliss. A heartfelt thanks not only for the videos themselves, but for the work you do adding to our collective knowledge.
says the guy whose job is to process info very quickly!! lol glad you enjoyed it, it's already one of my favourites. and I got help on the upper animations!
Watching this video reminded me of this day 50 years ago today. After the initial waveoff because of a problem with the Service Modules SPS engine it didn't look too good for a lunar landing. But 3 hours later Mission Control gave them a go. Interesting because we earthlings knew the crew would be given a go even before the crew knew.
I'm realizing *I've never seen this lunar footage* ... wow the "new" crater next to the old looks remarkably like a *pellet divot in a windowpane* Thank you for rolling this wonderful moon footage, LM5! Also, I noticed your channel mission patch *depicts Orion* after *Betelgeuse goes supernova* ... right...on
Gracias, todo muy interesante. No olvidemos lo que se consiguió en aquella época, sobre todo a la gente mas joven que no vivió la era Apolo. Esperemos a la misión Artemisa III para volver a la superficie lunar.
@@ericephemetherson3964 I know for a fact that the landings were real. And I don't put too much weight into what can be told from a film movie camera running at 12fps recording a scene washed out by motion and dust. But at the scale shown here, with the little inset footage on my crappy little laptop screen, I find your idea of focusing on how the camera reacts to the LM bouncing at touchdown, to be something worth taking a really good look at. So I will do so, on not just this, but all Apollo landings. Here are a few reasons that what I see here is interesting, but VERY FAR from proving anything one way or the other about this landing. 1. This is obviously a digitized version of the movie-camera film, scanned and processed into digital video. IIRC, most Apollo 16 videos, even those posted on NASA websites, were digitally processed by private individuals, not NASA itself. It is entirely possible that they did something the equivalent of "image stabilization" to eliminate the effects of camera-mount movement, and then cropped away the resulting "change in frame edge locaton" which that causes. 2. The video does show the LM bouncing, made obvious by the motion of the LM shadows on the lunar surface. If there were no image-stabilization processing, that "shadow bounce movement" is definitely in your favor if the camera was poorly mounted. But I doubt the camera was poorly mounted, we're talking NASA here. So the question becomes, is it in your favor even if the camera is solidly mounted and the full frame is shown with no motion processing and no edge cropping? The answer is a resounding "Can't tell from looking, but should be able to figure it out from engineering analysis." 3. One detail I'd say makes your argument more dubious even at first glance, is that I DO SEE EVIDENCE of LM/camera vibration in the video. Specifically, the leg shadow seems to go back and forth between being blurry and sharp as the LM bounces, for reasons other than the (quite sharp) shadow moving on the surface. It seems to get blurry more in the direction orthogonal to the shadow movement, than in the direction of shadow movement. In a way that it pretty definitely WOULD NOT, if the camera were on rigid scaffolding outside the LM as you claim. Still, you made a good point about something not looking how you'd think it might, and I will check it out. This will be almost as interesting as when I figured out (decades ago) what was going on in the case of a flag waving as an astronaut ran by it without touching it. That one, I'd noticed myself before the conspiracy theory gained traction. It turned out to be easily explained by the fact that each astronaut's suit vents what they breathe out, into the vacuum of space. The suits do not recompress their o2/co2 breath exhaust for obvious reasons (not wanting to carry around a compressor and exhaust-breath recovery tank). And when you vent across that pressure ratio (very high when you almost divide by zero), you get "choked flow" the speed of which is generally a hefty fraction of Mach 1, albeit from a small vent opening. But still, it creates a basically spherical, high-speed outflow of exhuast gas in their vicinity with every breath. Another possibility was static charge on flag and suit interacting, but that wasn't sure to be actually happening, while venting was sure to.
Anyone know what the strange dark needle-like structures sticking way up off the moon are at the very bottom left of the screen at the 23:03 mark and seen moving slowly left relative to the LEM traveling right? Go full screen to see them better.
They are just graphic anomalies in the Orbiter simulator I use to depict the events, the simulated lunar surface often throws up these and I usually reset the PC to set up the screen record again but just missed seeing these ones.
I was Born September 20,1972 I am Between Apollo 16 and Apollo 17 Last Mission to the Moon 🌙I be 50 Year old if we do go back To the Moon 2025 I be 55 Year old
I'm surprised to hear in the communication, the metric unit of meter was used instead of the imeprial unit which the Americans use. Any clarifications ?
Technically trained Americans often mix units, though hopefully only correctly. When I went to MIT in the 1970s, you had to be prepared for solving problems in any unit system they threw at you. Metric is easier, but we had to also learn to deal with not only correct use of imperial, but incorrect use of it. When you're dealing with all smart people, they don't go around correcting each other about informally using "pound" as a measure of mass, when everyone is capable of using slugs if you insist. Easier just to say pound and write lbm if you mean "pound mass" which is barely a thing except by mutual agreement. As pilots, astronauts are accustomed to altitude being measured in feet and ascent/descent rates being in feet per minute. But on Apollo, using feet altitude and feet per second descent made it easier for them to calculate "seconds to landing/impact" in their heads. The lunar rover navigation system used meters, km, and km/hour.
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Beautiful stuff!! "Fantastic! Percy Precision has planted one on the plains of Descartes!"
Thanks Brian
@@lunarmodule5 45:44 FIDO collected, btw 🤣
@@InquisitorMatthewAshcraft I bet he did
@@lunarmodule5 🤣🤣🤣
Is that actually what he said? I couldn't quite make it out, that's hilarious. These guys had so many funny phrases that you just don't hear anymore.
Another great production from a RUclips legend.
Legend!? Not sure about that! But thanks for the kudos
Thank you for posting this video. I was in school during the Apollo 16 mission and didn't get to see much of the flight.
You are very welcome - Glad you found it - There is also the Apollo 16 Full Mission as well
Thanks You LM-5.
Your efforts really give life to the Apollo Program. You make history a tangible event, something more than a scratchy recording and low resolution photography. You can hear, see and absorb the drama. I just can’t say thank you enough - but I am certain your work will be around for a very long time. Children not yet born will benefit from your work.
Thanks whos1st that's really kind of you and I hope you are right
All john Young flights are just full of little nuggets, as he was THE MAN! Thank you LM5 as usual for this amazing work.
Thanks Hisham
I met John Young in a Barnes and Noble outside of Cocoa Beach. I told him what an honor it was to meet him, he said "Cool."
@@ayebea8116 AND THAT''S WHY HE IS A LEGEND!
Great Anniversary! - thank you for the digital editing!
Welcome Hans!
Thank you very much! The visuals are absolutely brilliant, it really adds a lot to the experience. A wonderful way to celebrate Apollo 16s 50th!
Thanks Leo
These are fantastic. Great memories brought back of my early teen years.
Thanks Chuck
That was so much fun and shows the amazing intellect and skill in these brave, enthusiastic explorers.
I was on shift at Orroral Valley here in Australia and we used to upload commands and download data from the ALSEP installations installed on the lunar surface by the astronauts. A lot of responsibility at 23 years of age and the best job I’ve had.
The majority of us will be so jealous but hats off to you and your support of Apollo, vital work
@@lunarmodule5
ALSEP was shutdown on the 30th September 1977 due to NASA budget cuts even though it was still working perfectly.
@@ericephemetherson3964
We were sending the commands from Orroral and of course receiving the data. Nice try though
The graphics in this video, particularly the Alt vs Time graph, are flawless, and the CG is brilliant. Great job to all of those involved!
Thanks Evan...my CG...Paolo's graphics
I Love the accurate clockface (top right) - pretty much exactly as was displayed in the MOCR.
@@lunarmodule5 LOVE the lunar and LM graphics, it's like being there ...
@@PatGleeson123 all Paolo's work
@@PatGleeson123 that was my bit lol
Two Apollo 16 videos in 2 days. Pure bliss.
A heartfelt thanks not only for the videos themselves, but for the work you do adding to our collective knowledge.
Thanks Ed.. appreciate your thoughts
I could listen to these transmissions all day, just historically fascinating... Kudo's to LM5, you are a legend.
Another great production by LM 5 and much appreciated! And Jim Irwin has got to be the most taciturn Capcom ever!
Welcome Joe...agree along with Ed Mitchell
39:14 the visual of them flying down this hill is gorgeous. Well done.
Thanks glad you like it
The quality is so insanely brilliant!
Thank you Michael, much kudos to Paolo Mangili who provided the graphic too. Glad you liked it
Oh mate. That animation is amazing. This is exactly the format I need so my little brain can process all the information 😜
says the guy whose job is to process info very quickly!! lol glad you enjoyed it, it's already one of my favourites. and I got help on the upper animations!
Love the “Are we gettin’ to stay Houston?” Young and Duke were the best!
Just watched the whole thing. Very good graphics!
Thanks!
Love the new mission patch Simon!!
Thanks Kevin
Your rendition with the glide slope at the top of the screen, with the clocks, etc., looks perfect on a big screen TV. Nice detailing.
Thanks Gary
I never really processed the LM would shake so much with the descent engine on. As fragile as it was I'd have been a little worried.
Love the shadow of the LM from inside!! So real!!
Thanks Rob
@@lunarmodule5 we will be watching the landing at 8:23:35 PM CT, this evening
Watching this video reminded me of this day 50 years ago today. After the initial waveoff because of a problem with the Service Modules SPS engine it didn't look too good for a lunar landing. But 3 hours later Mission Control gave them a go. Interesting because we earthlings knew the crew would be given a go even before the crew knew.
Cool beans, LM5!!! Another fantastic job!! Hats off to the men and women of LM5!!! :) :)
Well there is only me as LM5...the other guys who collaborate are mentioned in the credits, but I know what you mean😄👍
Orion is finally here !
Thanks lm5 :-)
Welcome Space
Charlie Duke..My Favorite Astronaut
Damn, Simon and Paolo! This is A-MAZ-ING!!!!
You liked this one Jim? Lol
@@lunarmodule5 Yeah. Just a little. LOL!
I'm realizing *I've never seen this lunar footage* ... wow the "new" crater next to the old looks remarkably like a *pellet divot in a windowpane*
Thank you for rolling this wonderful moon footage, LM5!
Also, I noticed your channel mission patch *depicts Orion* after *Betelgeuse goes supernova* ... right...on
Greatest channel on YT🛰🚀🌚📡
Amazing comment - thank you!
Charlie was a bit excited, wasn't he? LOL. This is excellent.
Thanks John and, yes, he was!
Another great presentation!
Charlie repeats Gene's line to him in 1969! "We're down among 'em!"
It's fitting that the CAPCOM on Apollo 11 got to go there himself (Duke).
Highlight clip intro, brilliant.
I am so glad people are seeing those...they take nearly as much time to think up as the actual video lol
Look at those pictures! Wow! Man on the moon, Again!!
I missed the premier, but happy to see the replay.
There was no premiere this time..
@@lunarmodule5 For what little it is worth with my tiny Twitter following, I recently promoted your RUclips channel there.
@@Vector_Ze i really appreciate that
Another Awesome Video.👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
thanks Greg
"Feel that beauty come on"
I had met Col. Young on two occasions here in Texas...He, like me, did not suffer fools gladly!
Well...I still don't!
Gracias, todo muy interesante. No olvidemos lo que se consiguió en aquella época, sobre todo a la gente mas joven que no vivió la era Apolo. Esperemos a la misión Artemisa III para volver a la superficie lunar.
Thanks Jorge - Gracias
awsome video Lm5!
Thanks LP
AWESOME AS ALWAYS!! Do you have that simulated cockpit view for Apollo 11?
@@ericephemetherson3964 I know for a fact that the landings were real. And I don't put too much weight into what can be told from a film movie camera running at 12fps recording a scene washed out by motion and dust. But at the scale shown here, with the little inset footage on my crappy little laptop screen, I find your idea of focusing on how the camera reacts to the LM bouncing at touchdown, to be something worth taking a really good look at. So I will do so, on not just this, but all Apollo landings.
Here are a few reasons that what I see here is interesting, but VERY FAR from proving anything one way or the other about this landing.
1. This is obviously a digitized version of the movie-camera film, scanned and processed into digital video. IIRC, most Apollo 16 videos, even those posted on NASA websites, were digitally processed by private individuals, not NASA itself. It is entirely possible that they did something the equivalent of "image stabilization" to eliminate the effects of camera-mount movement, and then cropped away the resulting "change in frame edge locaton" which that causes.
2. The video does show the LM bouncing, made obvious by the motion of the LM shadows on the lunar surface. If there were no image-stabilization processing, that "shadow bounce movement" is definitely in your favor if the camera was poorly mounted. But I doubt the camera was poorly mounted, we're talking NASA here. So the question becomes, is it in your favor even if the camera is solidly mounted and the full frame is shown with no motion processing and no edge cropping? The answer is a resounding "Can't tell from looking, but should be able to figure it out from engineering analysis."
3. One detail I'd say makes your argument more dubious even at first glance, is that I DO SEE EVIDENCE of LM/camera vibration in the video. Specifically, the leg shadow seems to go back and forth between being blurry and sharp as the LM bounces, for reasons other than the (quite sharp) shadow moving on the surface. It seems to get blurry more in the direction orthogonal to the shadow movement, than in the direction of shadow movement. In a way that it pretty definitely WOULD NOT, if the camera were on rigid scaffolding outside the LM as you claim.
Still, you made a good point about something not looking how you'd think it might, and I will check it out.
This will be almost as interesting as when I figured out (decades ago) what was going on in the case of a flag waving as an astronaut ran by it without touching it. That one, I'd noticed myself before the conspiracy theory gained traction. It turned out to be easily explained by the fact that each astronaut's suit vents what they breathe out, into the vacuum of space. The suits do not recompress their o2/co2 breath exhaust for obvious reasons (not wanting to carry around a compressor and exhaust-breath recovery tank). And when you vent across that pressure ratio (very high when you almost divide by zero), you get "choked flow" the speed of which is generally a hefty fraction of Mach 1, albeit from a small vent opening. But still, it creates a basically spherical, high-speed outflow of exhuast gas in their vicinity with every breath. Another possibility was static charge on flag and suit interacting, but that wasn't sure to be actually happening, while venting was sure to.
Met Charlie as well!
Great animation!
Thanks Joseph
Awesome job LM5... ^5 bro...
Thanks Mike
Anyone know what the strange dark needle-like structures sticking way up off the moon are at the very bottom left of the screen at the 23:03 mark and seen moving slowly left relative to the LEM traveling right? Go full screen to see them better.
They are just graphic anomalies in the Orbiter simulator I use to depict the events, the simulated lunar surface often throws up these and I usually reset the PC to set up the screen record again but just missed seeing these ones.
@@lunarmodule5 So.... a trick by the Romulans, Captain.
@@paulbriggs3072 indeed
Fantastic - as ever - :-)
Thanks Pat
I was Born September 20,1972 I am Between Apollo 16 and Apollo 17 Last Mission to the Moon 🌙I be 50 Year old if we do go back To the Moon 2025 I be 55 Year old
Excelente 😄👍🌎🧑🚀🧑🚀🧑🚀🚀🌚
Why it's not a livestream? Love it BTW!
Because the landing was in the very early hours....and for 50 mins didn't seem the best plan to stay up past 3.30am
@@lunarmodule5 I understand now, thank you for everything! Proud to have subscribed!
Is this the actual footage???
32:10 As I know only Apollo 11 performed the yaw maneuver.
I cant brain today (at work) what time should a Pacific Standard Time dude watch this? LoL
see the video description for the landing time in UTC and go from there...or, just watch it immediately and enjoy
@@lunarmodule5 😁
Dis believers can KMA!!!
I really don't recognise Jim Irwin's voice here. That's really strange.
Thats definetly Jim Irwin.
Pizza cake 🍕🍰
I'm surprised to hear in the communication, the metric unit of meter was used instead of the imeprial unit which the Americans use. Any clarifications ?
Technically trained Americans often mix units, though hopefully only correctly. When I went to MIT in the 1970s, you had to be prepared for solving problems in any unit system they threw at you. Metric is easier, but we had to also learn to deal with not only correct use of imperial, but incorrect use of it. When you're dealing with all smart people, they don't go around correcting each other about informally using "pound" as a measure of mass, when everyone is capable of using slugs if you insist. Easier just to say pound and write lbm if you mean "pound mass" which is barely a thing except by mutual agreement.
As pilots, astronauts are accustomed to altitude being measured in feet and ascent/descent rates being in feet per minute. But on Apollo, using feet altitude and feet per second descent made it easier for them to calculate "seconds to landing/impact" in their heads. The lunar rover navigation system used meters, km, and km/hour.
@@EfficientRVer great answer thanks