Yes you're 100% correct. It's the same for a 727 dodge trans. I should have researched my terminology better as I trip over my words at times. But I'm glad you're liking the videos. Thank you!
@@dazeofgloryshopworks5806 you are doing wonderfully, I'm in the process of watching your whole C6 rebuild series and enjoying it, while the rain keeps me away from mine 🫤🤣
@@fomoco173 I wish it was a complete series.... it's my current project. Normally I'd have er done in a couple evenings. Trying to be thorough for RUclips adds a lot of time but I'm still enjoying it. Glad you're watching it. It doesn't sound like your first run in with the c6 so your compliments are much appreciated. I'm tearing another one apart right now hoping it has a thick snapring in it for some clutch clearance issues I have on the hi/reverse drum. 🤘🏼
@@fomoco173 the manual calls it the hi/reverse for some reason. Weird to me. I'd call it the direct clutch in my terminology. Spec is 0.021"-0.041" and mine is at 0.073". I'd noticed some light burning on the old clutches so it would have been too loose causing a long upshift. I now have 3 drums to choose from though so once I clean them all up, I'll stack the same clutches and steels into each drum with the thickest reaction plate and go for the tightest measurement or closest to spec I can. 🤞🏼🤞🏼
What fluid do you like to use in the C6? My 1989 Ford Bronco has the C6 and the dipstick says “use Mercon” but I can only find type F and Mercon V at wal mart
I like to keep the same fluid that was put in a trans, but when I can't find it, I'll use a universal Dexron/mercon mix. Usually a dexron3 will be available. If you read the back of the bottle, it should say somewhere which fluids it's compatible with. When I rebuild them, I'll go for a straight universal non-synthetic fluid I can find at a reasonable price. Usually an "ATF +4 is my go to for that. The rebuilds don't have anything for special clutches and unless it's clearly marked on the rebuild kit, any fluid will do. Thanks for your question!
You need to get one of those couplers that have a rubber seal inside and it will stop a lot of that air leaking in and around the coupling then of course your air compressor won't come on and off so much I got mine at harbor freight but I'm sure any place that sells air compressor parts will also have those
I had the system perfectly tight. Wouldn't drain a drop of pressure... 15 years ago. Haha. But my guns are well used now and they bypass a lot of air. Also the air system for my paint spraying has a couple seepages. There's about 150 or so connections at that system. But I am redoing it now as I moved to a new place. Hoping to get er air right again. Thanks for checking out the video!
I have a 1979 f150 400 with the c6, having an issue currently where it will reverse just find but won’t move forward. Have you seen something like this?
Isnt the 77 c6 the same ..i seen the neutral safty switch on the shiftr thing ...on my pu ..its just hanging on thr fire wall and was wondering what it was , it looks exactly like what he took off now i know where its supposed to go ...my dad did some work on pu and got to old to finnish so i inherited the project
Sounds like a great project truck man. Yeah that's the neutral safety. 77 should be same as the one I was doing. Though I can't remember the model year break dates right now. Mostly there were minor differences when there were any.
Actually I just checked the breakdown and from what I can tell, there is no short cut. Because of the output shaft and governor setup, you'll have to disassemble pretty near the whole thing. Wish I had better news for you
Unfortunately no, the tailshaft and tailshaft housings are different and would require replacement with the proper parts to make your transfer case work. Or you could try to find a divorced transfer case set up
Questions I have a 1986 f250 4x4 6.9 idi diesel c6 transmission. Internally what is different. This is my first diesel c6 I'm building. I have experience with c4,4l60e,4l80e and few others. From what I understand they have more clutches. I do heavy hauling alot of 4x4 4low and hi because I work off road logging and cutting firewood. What upgrades and kits do you recommend. It shifts fine no issues other than when it's cold 30° or under it likes to warm up it won't go in any gear till it warms up or you start to reve up the engine slightly
Hey, so, the diesel version is as you said. A couple more clutches and it'll have a slightly different valve body. I'd check with tci or another performance trans manufacturer to see what kits they have available specifically for the diesel version. I have not torn into one so I can't say for sure but the extra clutches and slight changes to the valve body are all I've come across. As for not moving in the cold right away, I'd recommend a fluid change on your trans first. A mid grade synthetic fluid would be my recommendation. Nothing too pricy but the synthetics work better in the colder temperatures. And it'll give you a chance to drop the trans pan and look for any abnormal wear as well. Keep me posted please!
Unfortunately, I'm quite a ways away from being properly set up again to do transmission rebuilds. The price would depend on what you wanted done to the transmission etc.
C6 are supposed to have a metal identification tag bolted to the servo cover on the side of the trans. If it's not there, I believe you need to count the input shaft splines and the output shaft splines and look it up online. I haven't had to worry so my knowledge is lacking on that side of things.
I have a very strange acting FE C-6. It goes into gear fine, forward and reverse. It moves forward and reverse but acts like the breaks are hung up. If I put the car in neutral, I can pull and push it back and forth with no resistance. Does the FE have a " hill hugger " feature ? The transmission moves the car, but also the transmission is holding it from moving at the same time. What's going on ? Any idea ?
I would say you have an issue with it applying two gears at the same time. Like one set of clutches is not quite releasing or one set is engaging before the other releases. Usually it's a worn out seal or piston lip seal not doing its job properly anymore. Couldn't pinpoint which exact component but my bet is a piston seal leaking pressure.
@@dazeofgloryshopworks5806 what a bummer if it's just a $2 dollar o ring. If you are interested, you can see a video of my car running on utube at : 427 FE with a new set of valve springs. My car was running and driving fine then one day the transmission acting up. Thanks for the quick response. I'm an engine expert, not transmission, though I have built a few. I'm going to un hook the transmission lines to the transmission cooler and put on a clear jumper hose and see how much flow I'm getting. Also going to dump in some snake oil transmission seal and see if that does something. Thanks again.
@@jesse75 I'll check out the video for sure. 👍🏼 I was gonna suggest some snake oil as it can't hurt at this point but I'm hesitant to mention it if someone has a trans failure right after so, I let folks do their own stuff at the same time. 🤘🏼😅
@@dazeofgloryshopworks5806 my car had been sitting for many years. I've taken the engine apart and inspected. Should have did the trans too. Going to have to get drunk this time.
Does it get better after it warms up good? I had a 67 that did this in reverse only when cold after the first start. It was rebuilt by the next owner and the trans did the same thing still. So eone didn't find the problem, ever.
Thanks a ton for the complete teardown. Everyone else just jumps right to the build.
I agree. Nothing more frustrating than only half the work shown. I've been trying to be as in-depth as I can. Thank you for your comment 🤘🏼
C6 band is second gear. Was in the process of pulling my C6, but it's raining now, so killing time on YT 🤣 Nicely done.
Yes you're 100% correct. It's the same for a 727 dodge trans. I should have researched my terminology better as I trip over my words at times. But I'm glad you're liking the videos. Thank you!
@@dazeofgloryshopworks5806 you are doing wonderfully, I'm in the process of watching your whole C6 rebuild series and enjoying it, while the rain keeps me away from mine 🫤🤣
@@fomoco173 I wish it was a complete series.... it's my current project. Normally I'd have er done in a couple evenings. Trying to be thorough for RUclips adds a lot of time but I'm still enjoying it. Glad you're watching it. It doesn't sound like your first run in with the c6 so your compliments are much appreciated. I'm tearing another one apart right now hoping it has a thick snapring in it for some clutch clearance issues I have on the hi/reverse drum. 🤘🏼
@@dazeofgloryshopworks5806? Do you mean the low Rev? If so how much clearance do you have?
@@fomoco173 the manual calls it the hi/reverse for some reason. Weird to me. I'd call it the direct clutch in my terminology. Spec is 0.021"-0.041" and mine is at 0.073".
I'd noticed some light burning on the old clutches so it would have been too loose causing a long upshift. I now have 3 drums to choose from though so once I clean them all up, I'll stack the same clutches and steels into each drum with the thickest reaction plate and go for the tightest measurement or closest to spec I can. 🤞🏼🤞🏼
Great video. Go dad!
What fluid do you like to use in the C6? My 1989 Ford Bronco has the C6 and the dipstick says “use Mercon” but I can only find type F and Mercon V at wal mart
I like to keep the same fluid that was put in a trans, but when I can't find it, I'll use a universal Dexron/mercon mix. Usually a dexron3 will be available. If you read the back of the bottle, it should say somewhere which fluids it's compatible with.
When I rebuild them, I'll go for a straight universal non-synthetic fluid I can find at a reasonable price. Usually an "ATF +4 is my go to for that. The rebuilds don't have anything for special clutches and unless it's clearly marked on the rebuild kit, any fluid will do. Thanks for your question!
@@dazeofgloryshopworks5806 thank you!
You need to get one of those couplers that have a rubber seal inside and it will stop a lot of that air leaking in and around the coupling then of course your air compressor won't come on and off so much
I got mine at harbor freight but I'm sure any place that sells air compressor parts will also have those
I had the system perfectly tight. Wouldn't drain a drop of pressure... 15 years ago. Haha. But my guns are well used now and they bypass a lot of air. Also the air system for my paint spraying has a couple seepages. There's about 150 or so connections at that system. But I am redoing it now as I moved to a new place. Hoping to get er air right again. Thanks for checking out the video!
I have a 1979 f150 400 with the c6, having an issue currently where it will reverse just find but won’t move forward. Have you seen something like this?
It sounds like the one way clutch has given up the ghost. I could be wrong but has the right symptoms. Or the band is toasted and won't grip any more
excellent video, thanks so much. this is a huge help for me.
Happy to help!! Thank you for checking it out
Isnt the 77 c6 the same ..i seen the neutral safty switch on the shiftr thing ...on my pu ..its just hanging on thr fire wall and was wondering what it was , it looks exactly like what he took off now i know where its supposed to go ...my dad did some work on pu and got to old to finnish so i inherited the project
Sounds like a great project truck man. Yeah that's the neutral safety. 77 should be same as the one I was doing. Though I can't remember the model year break dates right now. Mostly there were minor differences when there were any.
i have a c6 transmission 79 bronco. can i get to the park gear. without taking down transmission? i think i broke the leaver that goes into the gear.
Actually I just checked the breakdown and from what I can tell, there is no short cut. Because of the output shaft and governor setup, you'll have to disassemble pretty near the whole thing. Wish I had better news for you
La transmisión c6 2wd se puede convertir a 4x4 solo insertando la caja de transferencia que traia mi f150 manual de 4 velocidades?
Unfortunately no, the tailshaft and tailshaft housings are different and would require replacement with the proper parts to make your transfer case work. Or you could try to find a divorced transfer case set up
@@dazeofgloryshopworks5806 thanks ✌🏼
@@hiramrayosx-xboxv-clips4813 you're welcome! Thank you for checking out the videos as well!
Questions I have a 1986 f250 4x4 6.9 idi diesel c6 transmission. Internally what is different. This is my first diesel c6 I'm building. I have experience with c4,4l60e,4l80e and few others. From what I understand they have more clutches. I do heavy hauling alot of 4x4 4low and hi because I work off road logging and cutting firewood. What upgrades and kits do you recommend. It shifts fine no issues other than when it's cold 30° or under it likes to warm up it won't go in any gear till it warms up or you start to reve up the engine slightly
Hey, so, the diesel version is as you said. A couple more clutches and it'll have a slightly different valve body. I'd check with tci or another performance trans manufacturer to see what kits they have available specifically for the diesel version. I have not torn into one so I can't say for sure but the extra clutches and slight changes to the valve body are all I've come across. As for not moving in the cold right away, I'd recommend a fluid change on your trans first. A mid grade synthetic fluid would be my recommendation. Nothing too pricy but the synthetics work better in the colder temperatures. And it'll give you a chance to drop the trans pan and look for any abnormal wear as well. Keep me posted please!
@@dazeofgloryshopworks5806 OK filter and gasket and standard transmission fluid was changed 2 oil changes ago so about 6,000 miles ago.
@@dazeofgloryshopworks5806 saving up to rebuild. Would like to post pictures and video content of the build soon
@@Jefforey I just subscribed to you so if you put up video, I'll be watching for sure!! 👍🏼
With what you clean the transmission
I clean all the parts in varsol and then I use brake cleaner to remove anything left over. Then blow dry with compressed air.
How much do you charge for a ford c6 transmission
Unfortunately, I'm quite a ways away from being properly set up again to do transmission rebuilds.
The price would depend on what you wanted done to the transmission etc.
I have a transmission that is c6 but the top say 62 i don't understand how do i know what transmission i got no number just the top
C6 are supposed to have a metal identification tag bolted to the servo cover on the side of the trans. If it's not there, I believe you need to count the input shaft splines and the output shaft splines and look it up online. I haven't had to worry so my knowledge is lacking on that side of things.
I have a very strange acting FE C-6.
It goes into gear fine, forward and reverse.
It moves forward and reverse but acts like the breaks are hung up.
If I put the car in neutral, I can pull and push it back and forth with no resistance.
Does the FE have a " hill hugger " feature ? The transmission moves the car, but also the transmission is holding it from moving at the same time.
What's going on ? Any idea ?
I would say you have an issue with it applying two gears at the same time. Like one set of clutches is not quite releasing or one set is engaging before the other releases. Usually it's a worn out seal or piston lip seal not doing its job properly anymore. Couldn't pinpoint which exact component but my bet is a piston seal leaking pressure.
@@dazeofgloryshopworks5806 what a bummer if it's just a $2 dollar o ring.
If you are interested, you can see a video of my car running on utube at :
427 FE with a new set of valve springs.
My car was running and driving fine then one day the transmission acting up.
Thanks for the quick response. I'm an engine expert, not transmission, though I have built a few.
I'm going to un hook the transmission lines to the transmission cooler and put on a clear jumper hose and see how much flow I'm getting.
Also going to dump in some snake oil transmission seal and see if that does something.
Thanks again.
@@jesse75 I'll check out the video for sure. 👍🏼 I was gonna suggest some snake oil as it can't hurt at this point but I'm hesitant to mention it if someone has a trans failure right after so, I let folks do their own stuff at the same time. 🤘🏼😅
@@dazeofgloryshopworks5806 my car had been sitting for many years.
I've taken the engine apart and inspected. Should have did the trans too.
Going to have to get drunk this time.
Does it get better after it warms up good? I had a 67 that did this in reverse only when cold after the first start. It was rebuilt by the next owner and the trans did the same thing still. So eone didn't find the problem, ever.
Thnx very informative.
You're very welcome. I hope it helps and doesn't hinder. I appreciate you checking out the video 🤘🏼
note to self, step one is to drain the fluid!
Haha yep! It was supposed to have been drained but obviously my customer was loose with the truth 🤣🤣 thanks for checking the video out man 👍🏼
Need a better muffler on that welder bud 🤣
Bahahaha