I am having difficulty finding empathy for those who knew what they were doing, absolutely took advantage fully understanding the risks, but never thought any punishment would come their way. It’s called integrity. You either have it or you don’t. Choices and consequences. We all adhere to that basic principle in life and in play.
I love the honest commentary. Great job. I have a few quibbling points (as I whole-heartedly agree with almost everything you say). * It's not a gap between low and high spenders. It's the gap between the elite few and everyone else. I've spent thousands over the past few months (willingly and following the rules) but those elite whales are still accelerating far past what I can keep up with. I'm not trying to, but still, what is the point of Battlefield against these guys? * We got whupped in the first round of Chalons by a notable elite alliance who has since lost BILLIONS as they have several players affected. Keep in mind, they would've beaten us anyways. But the points they ran up on us are fraudulent. How will Evony handle that? Will they be zeroed for the first two rounds of Chalons? Will we get a bonus for our rounds? * Taking away troops are fine, but what about all the generals ascended through the Blood of Ares in those packs? Blazons bought and upgraded? Civ Gear? Civ Treasures? Art Hall Treasures? Premium castle decorations with buffs? Historic Red Sub cities like Kathmandu and Alexandria? New elite duty generals and specialty gear? MA5 training finished? Did Evony remove the hundreds of billions of RSS from those accounts or will those whales just rebuild the troops and be back to full strength in a week, making this more of an inconvenience than a punishment? Evony is at a crossroads here. They can either fully revoke all that was purchased through the exploits (and face those whales leaving the game). Or give some kind of scaled rewards to those who played fairly, bought packs legally and followed the rules. Gift a premium Civ-gear set, or a premium castle decoration. Like I said, I spent a good amount of money, but I can be bribed. ;-) We all know Evony is too cheap to actually do this. Sadly, Evony will do neither. They are only interested in making money, not in the enjoyment by -victims- players. That said, I will happily point out every announcement that proclaims Evony's desire for "fairness" as a lie and not supported by the evidence.
After k40 came out Evony stopped being about skill and teamwork and became about who could spend the most money for the next general, ascension, armor and dragons. But I guess we just found out it wasn't even about spending but who could cheat the most lol Not to be rude, but there was no fucking way some of those players caught were as rich as their accounts gave off. Huntress was never that big of a player in C1 then suddenly ballooned up to 30bil in 6 months. I knew something was fishy.
If the developers didn't keep raising the prices of the packages, drop our bubbles too early, have endless amounts of glitches, and actually have a customer service department that didn't act like an American insurance company that didn't want to pay people for being poisoned....well I guess none of this would have happened. The problem with online....there seems to be little need for accountability from the developers. I imagine most people have sent an email or ticket to evony....explaining everything that happened with pictures, only to get the "please explain what happened and please attach photos" line. They start off being infuriating. I just start my emails with "hey". That way I don't waste my time doing it a second time. Half the time they just close the ticket before any resolution. And I have to start all over again. What it comes down too is this. We pay far too much for a product that always delivers less than we want, we pay too much for exceptionally crap customer service that has no quality control. We pay too much for laggy performance. at some point we all need to unite and not pay a cent to this game. I was a heavy spender but not any more.
The game is advertised as free to play! With in-game purchases available. WHY spend? Moan and continue to spend. This is the trouble with in game spending, it ruins the whole experience and takes out the sense of achievement. It's like an Olympic athlete doing all the training, competing in a 400M race, only to be pipped to the post by someone who did zero training and ordered an Uber to take them to the finish line 🏁🙄🤷♂️
Finally!!! I was a heavy spender on one of the most toxic servers due to an alliance of cheaters. It’s clearly evident, no matter how many reports you make and the amount of evidence you provide, admins refuse to enforce the rules. I remember posting whole conversation of people who admitted in chat to cheating and nothing was ever done. A bunch if us just quit which is sad considering the time and money we spent playing.
It definitely seems true that this game is skewed to favor those that do the "illegal" aspect of getting resources, etc. And I think it is the game's fault for setting things up certain ways: billions of resources to upgrade higher level buildings, decades of speedups to finish them, 16 copies of a General needed to get a fully ascended General, using 4,600 Blood of Ares - - just to name a few things that create situations where it is almost impossible for players to compete based on skill instead of money (or cheating).
The mail Evony sent out said they took action on 669 accounts or some rig like that. I’ve seen SS in discord of people being told they have a short fall of 40-70k. So let’s just imagine the average account hit, “owes” Evony $5000. That’s over 3 Million if lost revenues and that is serious money. The people that are running Top Games and Evony are just idiots. If they invested some energy in actual improvements instead of monetizing everything they’d keep the majority of the player base happy and spending would be more consistent and predicable.
Cake 10 was like 600 dollars it's not a heavy punishment at all.. i don't even see it as a punishment, give the 3-6months, they will be back up again. only blessing is, it'll allow many new alliances to win or finish very high in chalons. these guys still get to keep their buffs and castles with dragons Troop building is the easiest thing to do and it the only thing theses guys have to do. most already got their buildings on k40 with t15 open.
Evony loses more money from the average player being discouraged by the cheaters. Thousands of more players would coin if they felt like the game was more fair
Singh has posted his reply! The dude is in denial! Even wrote to Evony to complain it was their fault! He said Evony took more from him than he got from the pink gems. Yeah... I should expect to pay back the amount I shoplifted for when I get caught. Cheating on Evony is simply due to all server battles being run internally. DOTA, LOL, etc are open to public scrutiny with professional teams and rich sponsors. Harder to cheat.
I want help on how to raise the basic strengths of the soldiers that are present inside the barracks. Advantages of the soldiers. Does anyone know how to raise? Please help.
Do you mean the soldiers in your sub cities? you need to cultivate your general of the sub city and update the buildings inside the sub city. Click on the city you want and look at buildings.
You explain it clearly, this has become cheating if you want to be competitive in the game, will they still compensate players who have suffered for so long in all Star, chalions and svs?
He who feeds you, controls you. T. Sankara. War is one of the most profitable businesses models that ever existed, because victory always comes at a high price, and Evony knows this. They are basically making massive profits by funding all sides of a virtual war. How many of your developer calls have ever have ever given you positive results? How many times have players expressed dissatisfaction about bugs, glitches, wings/wonder, lag in battlefield or even minor changes like Pan event and gotten any positive feedback? Where is Tyche's Wheel now? These issues do not have a negative result on Evony's revenue, so there is no need to resolve them. The same with having bots in the game, it does not make a serious enough dent in Evony revenue for them to be too concerned because people still buy packs even if they have alts. As long as you "invest" your money to "enjoy" the game in a manner that does not hamper the profits of Evony, nothing needs to change. Evony is just another matrix that keeps people trapped in a world that does not exist. And no matter how many glitches happen in the matrix, as long as you refuse to take the pill and wake up, you will just be food for the machines.. #Freeeeeedom
i can only play with one account but the game should be fair about the packs and the game is not really fair about it. The package, which is 100 dollars for an American or European player, is 2000 TL in my country.
i dont blame the players for taking advantage of the glitch ,,, technically even alt accounts are breaking the "code" of evony but almost everyone uses them ,,,, this game is all about spending money or spending more time whichever you can afford to ,, if there is a way to reduce either then players should use it ,, i find it veyr hillarious when people try to use ethics and morality in video games ,, perhaps the reason being that i am not a serious gamer ,, the only thing i dislike is abuse and trolling ,, the rest of the gaming world is just funny ,,
I dont' see how the bots hurt the game. At the end of the day, once you're established, you're only playing for battlefield anyways. The bots aren't doing that for you.
It does give you an edge. But not a big deal. I would say bots + Alts give you unlimited resources and speed ups which is needed to grow your castle and train troops. It gives you unlimited materials and refinement stones, and to some extend tactic scrolls, and gold. But you cannot get civilization gear with bots, and that is a huge disadvantage compared to package loading.
I am having difficulty finding empathy for those who knew what they were doing, absolutely took advantage fully understanding the risks, but never thought any punishment would come their way. It’s called integrity. You either have it or you don’t. Choices and consequences. We all adhere to that basic principle in life and in play.
I love the honest commentary. Great job. I have a few quibbling points (as I whole-heartedly agree with almost everything you say).
* It's not a gap between low and high spenders. It's the gap between the elite few and everyone else. I've spent thousands over the past few months (willingly and following the rules) but those elite whales are still accelerating far past what I can keep up with. I'm not trying to, but still, what is the point of Battlefield against these guys?
* We got whupped in the first round of Chalons by a notable elite alliance who has since lost BILLIONS as they have several players affected. Keep in mind, they would've beaten us anyways. But the points they ran up on us are fraudulent. How will Evony handle that? Will they be zeroed for the first two rounds of Chalons? Will we get a bonus for our rounds?
* Taking away troops are fine, but what about all the generals ascended through the Blood of Ares in those packs? Blazons bought and upgraded? Civ Gear? Civ Treasures? Art Hall Treasures? Premium castle decorations with buffs? Historic Red Sub cities like Kathmandu and Alexandria? New elite duty generals and specialty gear? MA5 training finished? Did Evony remove the hundreds of billions of RSS from those accounts or will those whales just rebuild the troops and be back to full strength in a week, making this more of an inconvenience than a punishment?
Evony is at a crossroads here. They can either fully revoke all that was purchased through the exploits (and face those whales leaving the game). Or give some kind of scaled rewards to those who played fairly, bought packs legally and followed the rules. Gift a premium Civ-gear set, or a premium castle decoration. Like I said, I spent a good amount of money, but I can be bribed. ;-) We all know Evony is too cheap to actually do this.
Sadly, Evony will do neither. They are only interested in making money, not in the enjoyment by -victims- players. That said, I will happily point out every announcement that proclaims Evony's desire for "fairness" as a lie and not supported by the evidence.
After k40 came out Evony stopped being about skill and teamwork and became about who could spend the most money for the next general, ascension, armor and dragons. But I guess we just found out it wasn't even about spending but who could cheat the most lol Not to be rude, but there was no fucking way some of those players caught were as rich as their accounts gave off. Huntress was never that big of a player in C1 then suddenly ballooned up to 30bil in 6 months. I knew something was fishy.
If the developers didn't keep raising the prices of the packages, drop our bubbles too early, have endless amounts of glitches, and actually have a customer service department that didn't act like an American insurance company that didn't want to pay people for being poisoned....well I guess none of this would have happened. The problem with online....there seems to be little need for accountability from the developers. I imagine most people have sent an email or ticket to evony....explaining everything that happened with pictures, only to get the "please explain what happened and please attach photos" line. They start off being infuriating. I just start my emails with "hey". That way I don't waste my time doing it a second time. Half the time they just close the ticket before any resolution. And I have to start all over again.
What it comes down too is this. We pay far too much for a product that always delivers less than we want, we pay too much for exceptionally crap customer service that has no quality control. We pay too much for laggy performance. at some point we all need to unite and not pay a cent to this game. I was a heavy spender but not any more.
Top Games is a scummy company, but every spender is guilty of enabling them to get away with it.
@@traildawg that part. Whales and moderate coiners are the problem here.
Ppl mostly weak and not smart so companies like this use this
The game is advertised as free to play! With in-game purchases available. WHY spend? Moan and continue to spend.
This is the trouble with in game spending, it ruins the whole experience and takes out the sense of achievement.
It's like an Olympic athlete doing all the training, competing in a 400M race, only to be pipped to the post by someone who did zero training and ordered an Uber to take them to the finish line 🏁🙄🤷♂️
many big and famous players are caught. singh is down to 23B and ViG total alliance power is down to 151B.
Finally!!! I was a heavy spender on one of the most toxic servers due to an alliance of cheaters. It’s clearly evident, no matter how many reports you make and the amount of evidence you provide, admins refuse to enforce the rules. I remember posting whole conversation of people who admitted in chat to cheating and nothing was ever done. A bunch if us just quit which is sad considering the time and money we spent playing.
It definitely seems true that this game is skewed to favor those that do the "illegal" aspect of getting resources, etc. And I think it is the game's fault for setting things up certain ways: billions of resources to upgrade higher level buildings, decades of speedups to finish them, 16 copies of a General needed to get a fully ascended General, using 4,600 Blood of Ares - - just to name a few things that create situations where it is almost impossible for players to compete based on skill instead of money (or cheating).
The mail Evony sent out said they took action on 669 accounts or some rig like that. I’ve seen SS in discord of people being told they have a short fall of 40-70k. So let’s just imagine the average account hit, “owes” Evony $5000. That’s over 3 Million if lost revenues and that is serious money. The people that are running Top Games and Evony are just idiots. If they invested some energy in actual improvements instead of monetizing everything they’d keep the majority of the player base happy and spending would be more consistent and predicable.
Cake 10 was like 600 dollars
it's not a heavy punishment at all.. i don't even see it as a punishment, give the 3-6months, they will be back up again.
only blessing is, it'll allow many new alliances to win or finish very high in chalons.
these guys still get to keep their buffs and castles with dragons
Troop building is the easiest thing to do and it the only thing theses guys have to do. most already got their buildings on k40 with t15 open.
Pink gems is like steroids IN MLB.
Evony loses more money from the average player being discouraged by the cheaters. Thousands of more players would coin if they felt like the game was more fair
Not at the price they have, its NUTS the price of Just 1 piece of civ equipment, most people cant pay that ammount of money, thats sick
Explains all the threatening announcements. Personally I wouldn't give personal information to those crooked people trying to sell those packs.
I'm so happy I quit. I have my life back 😀💙
Ha! Don't blame ya. Lots more people headed out the door soon.
A lot more will quit.
Anyone big quit?
Singh gave away all his historic subs that he got by cheating and quit!
No way!
Dude! I think you talked so much sense in this video that even TG heard it, sadly, we know how this song ends up going...
Singh has posted his reply! The dude is in denial! Even wrote to Evony to complain it was their fault! He said Evony took more from him than he got from the pink gems. Yeah... I should expect to pay back the amount I shoplifted for when I get caught.
Cheating on Evony is simply due to all server battles being run internally. DOTA, LOL, etc are open to public scrutiny with professional teams and rich sponsors. Harder to cheat.
Him and every other big spender that got caught is coping hard rn. Someone should ask how that boycott is holding up
The fact that the biggest asshole on my server was hit hard, I have new joy and respect for the game.The punishment should have been worse tbh 😂
I want help on how to raise the basic strengths of the soldiers that are present inside the barracks. Advantages of the soldiers. Does anyone know how to raise? Please help.
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Do you mean the soldiers in your sub cities? you need to cultivate your general of the sub city and update the buildings inside the sub city. Click on the city you want and look at buildings.
u explained pretty well
Great video bro 💪🏼💪🏼
I think all players with extra accounts and those who bot should also be punished because I think that is cheating as well
You explain it clearly, this has become cheating if you want to be competitive in the game, will they still compensate players who have suffered for so long in all Star, chalions and svs?
It's actually evony fault not fixing the bugs in it
Taking advantage of a glitch or error caused by crappy code is not cheating. It's called playing the game
It was a packloader using an script to bypass something.
Do glitches on Playstation or Xbox any glitches is cheating every last person play the game did a glitch
Well said!
Pack loading and 6 alts on bots for a year still didn't even put me close to real whales. Evony created this. Boycott top games.
The game itself is a cheat , I downloaded this for the puzzle and end up in a drama game .
Watching all the narcs now 😂
He who feeds you, controls you. T. Sankara.
War is one of the most profitable businesses models that ever existed, because victory always comes at a high price, and Evony knows this. They are basically making massive profits by funding all sides of a virtual war.
How many of your developer calls have ever have ever given you positive results?
How many times have players expressed dissatisfaction about bugs, glitches, wings/wonder, lag in battlefield or even minor changes like Pan event and gotten any positive feedback?
Where is Tyche's Wheel now?
These issues do not have a negative result on Evony's revenue, so there is no need to resolve them.
The same with having bots in the game, it does not make a serious enough dent in Evony revenue for them to be too concerned because people still buy packs even if they have alts.
As long as you "invest" your money to "enjoy" the game in a manner that does not hamper the profits of Evony, nothing needs to change.
Evony is just another matrix that keeps people trapped in a world that does not exist. And no matter how many glitches happen in the matrix, as long as you refuse to take the pill and wake up, you will just be food for the machines..
#Freeeeeedom
😂😂😂😂😂
Maybe they will actually start fixing the cheater problem lol
i can only play with one account but the game should be fair about the packs and the game is not really fair about it. The package, which is 100 dollars for an American or European player, is 2000 TL in my country.
Great good video. True 100%
💯 cannot agree more.
Get the F off and find out life back
i dont blame the players for taking advantage of the glitch ,,, technically even alt accounts are breaking the "code" of evony but almost everyone uses them ,,,, this game is all about spending money or spending more time whichever you can afford to ,, if there is a way to reduce either then players should use it ,, i find it veyr hillarious when people try to use ethics and morality in video games ,, perhaps the reason being that i am not a serious gamer ,, the only thing i dislike is abuse and trolling ,, the rest of the gaming world is just funny ,,
Its time to quit game then 😂😂😂
I heard you help in selling accounts?
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They should be banned from the game
I dont' see how the bots hurt the game. At the end of the day, once you're established, you're only playing for battlefield anyways. The bots aren't doing that for you.
It does give you an edge. But not a big deal. I would say bots + Alts give you unlimited resources and speed ups which is needed to grow your castle and train troops. It gives you unlimited materials and refinement stones, and to some extend tactic scrolls, and gold. But you cannot get civilization gear with bots, and that is a huge disadvantage compared to package loading.
@@dennisrodriguez3689 it's definitely not unlimited resources, not even close. If it was unlimited, it would be a big deal, but that's not the case.
@@MrThatdude82 I make half a Trillion RSS per month. You can call it as you want. I have decided to call it unlimited.
@@dennisrodriguez3689 how many farms do you have? I use two and barely cover consumption. You're definitely coining too just to cover stamina.
@@MrThatdude82 hahahaha. Poor guy. You have no clue how to play this game, do you? 😆😂 And No, I spent 0 pennies to get stamina.
I see this will push cheating more.
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