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I find it funny that of all movies Shakrboy and LavaGirl did the "Its all a dream" trope really well 😂
i mean, that was the entire premise of the movie.
@@cybersaiyan9596 I get what your saying but the way "It's all a dream" style stories are set up kind of make them the premise.
That's like a default for the medium
But I get your point tho
In links awakening, id say it was done well. Because a long the journey yiu skowly learn the possibility that it was a dream of the wind fish and also the bosses know and theyre trying to stop you because it would mean they stop existing. Its kinda tragic knowing that waking up the fish means you get to escape the island but also all the people you met will die.
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One of the better uses of its a dream is in Mob psyco. As it lets you know from the very beginning. It does have an effect on mob, as it makes him confront the fact that he is lucky, and poses the question what if mob didn't have a good support system and the people who did help him. It also makes him confront that people can be shity, and that even if he stops someone once, it doesn't mean they will choose to be good people, and by not detainaing or killing that person, they can still go on to do bad things.
If you are referring to the episode with his parents, I always got the feeling it was less the "all a dream" trope, and more Mob Made it that trope.
@@Airier no, it's that fight with the dead psychic in season 2
Don't be silly. Wizard of Oz isn't an isekai light novel.
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*There aren't nearly enough energy beam attacks to qualify.*
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Lack of consequences IS NOT a part of this trope, it is just the consequences of missusing the trope
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Yes, yes it IS a relief because most people watching stories (ESPECIALLY not the Batman Catoons target audience) don't care about long term oricle plot line stuff, they don't watch things with that kinda eye. They just see "Oh no! Character I like is either seriously hurt/dead!" And the all a dream becomes a relief giving save
Also Oracle is a cool thing that came after the plot line that injured her DESPITE that story, that story that actually injured her used her as a lamp so it could focus on how her father and Batman felt about it vs much about Barbra herself in all of that.
I really like the Killing Joke, but like Moore himself has talked about he disservice he did to her in that story.
Red was referring to BTAS more specifically The New Batman Adventures
Where Scarecrow drugged Batgirl and she ends up dying in a dream which ends with Batman and Commissioner Gordon ending each other in some way.
However, Barbara wakes up and it's a Relief that not only was she Alive but Bruce and her Father were also ok.
It didn't matter because it was simply a Nightmare produced by Fear Toxin, however it caused her to tell Jim That she had a secret Identity
Over the Garden Wall is a very good show - it's pretty weird at times, but is also quite funny. It came out in 2014 (oh no... it's a decade old...), ten episodes, ten minutes each - you can easily watch it as a movie if you want. I highly recommend watching it
You know what would be funny? The "It's all a dream" trope, but the literal next page after the character wakes up is the character walking through their house and not really thinking, and just pointing out "hey that's my magic sword from that dream" and so forth, until they get to their kitchen where all their magical friends are sitting there eating food. It's all a dream, but sike it was actually totally not, and everything happened.
and one of their magical friends end up asking "How much in denial are you?"
I honestly think that, taking into considerations your reactions to SuperEyepatchWolf videos, you would really enjoy the Detail Diatribe videos from OSP.
They're Red and Blue (and in a few cases there were also a few guests) discussing something (usually that one of them brought to the table in slideshow format), like for example the concept of the Multiverse in fiction and how it can be used badly, or how the Super Saiyan was an actual good prophecy story-line, or how Star Wars Rogue One handles doomed protagonists, etc.
Going to be completely honest. I'm saving the diatribes for the next time I have a really crappy day. You're right. These are exactly the kind of thing I know I will love. 😁
The OZ series was extremely popular and went on for 40 books under multiple authors.
I remember reading a novel, but I can't recall its name, that had an 'it was all a dream' plot twist, but with a unique twist.
Spoiler alert for a book/series whose name I do not remember the name of or where I read it:
The novel was a psychological thriller about a naive girl with a psychopathic yandere boyfriend who harmed multiple people who tried to blackmail, assault, or socially ruin her. He used ambushes and a hoodie to hide his identity and remain at large.
The twist comes when the deuteragonist, another initially unrelated boy who befriends the girl, investigates and discovers that the boyfriend didn’t exist. Every romantic encounter with this non-existent boyfriend was her own delusion, an escape from her harsh reality. Unable to reconcile with her violent actions, she imagined this protector. In reality, she trained herself like an athlete and was much stronger than she appeared. She used this strength to assault those who took advantage of her, including people who cheated her out of her scholarship, attempted to assault her, disliked the deuteragonist's attention toward her, or felt slighted by her presence who attempted to ruin her socially through many humiliating ordeals.
The novel blindsides the reader by presenting her as an innocent college student while feeding us her delusions about a loving boyfriend who might be a secret psychopath. In retrospect, it’s revealed that she brutally attacked a group of male bullies with a metal pipe, leaving them on the brink of death-much like Batman, but without the vigilante part-just pure revenge to prevent future harm.
Throughout most of the novel, we see her "innocent" self and the deuteragonist trying to catch her "psycho/ruthless boyfriend", who harmed people around her and her "boyfriend" who pulled some extreme stalking or assault which is at the end outed to be her herself unable to recognize her own actions, with many small hints of the twist from the start. The ending has her admitting to herself what she did and reconciling both aspects of her personality. She doesn’t have split personalities, just huge cognitive dissonances where she doesn't remember her own actions when she is in casual/routine mode. She is a very damaged, hurt, and lonely person-her parents threw her out, and no institution supported her-and has intense guilt from having harmed the person her imaginary boyfriend was based on before the story started. She resorted to extreme measures to protect herself from various threats. Her actions were extreme and driven by a belief that they were her only means of protection against people who sought to break her for their own ego or amusement.
In the finale, she is wanted for multiple assaults, attempted murder, and possibly one murder. She surrenders and is placed in a prison hospital due to her fractured mind.
So a huge portion of the novel was just a dream, especially when the MC and "boyfriend" interacted with each others, or her imagining the "boyfriend" acting in her stead, but it had implied real actions during that sequence with real consequences with a peek into what the protagonist basically found as her last safe heaven in her delusions.
I never played it myself (it got de-listed), but I hear that _Driver: San Francisco_ did this trope really well, because not only do you KNOW it's a dream the entire time, but the events IN the dream are him coming to terms with what happened that pit him IN the dream (he was in a car crash and is now in a coma) and fighting to stay alive through his recovery. Plus, the dream setting allows for the main gimmick of the game: possessing other peoples' cars to help you with your current mission.
15:42 That’s School Live. To this day, that is my favorite 1st episode/chapter plot twist in anything. You already know the plot twist, but I’m gonna talk a bit about how that was handled below, so don’t read further if you want to go into it relatively blind.
It’s a master class in abusing tropes and expectations to hide foreshadowing.
I remember back when it came out, I had an anime blog and the day it released I posted about the 30-something pieces of visual foreshadowing for the fact that it was a delusion/zombie apocalypse, of which I think no one I spoke to had noticed more than 3 or 4 on their first watch through. For instance, there are multiple scenes where you can just straight up see the zombies, or see how wrecked the school is, but because they’re framed like standard slice of life transition wide shots you don’t pick up on them. There are also a lot of obviously weird things that just get framed as standard SoL gag antics.
And than there is second twist later on that is variation of it, but this is directly emotionally abusing the audience. Worst part, secpnd twist makes sense and yo7 could see it coming due to some stuff not lining up, but you would not want that so you are actively trying to convince yourself, trying to be in dennial, because this is part of what gives you, an emotional comfort which makes you feel exactly as character there so the second twist works, but its direct emotional attack on the audience. Totally not traumatized at all in any way.
7:25 Probably not something to react to on the channel, but Hbomberguy's video on Sherlock explains why it ruins the story. It's not only untrustworthy, it's kinda terrible writing in general.
Gilligan's Island had the inverse of this trope pop up from time to time; every so often we were shown the dreams of the characters, but were told they were dreams, and said dreams often influenced decisions the characters made. In interesting inversion, don't you think?
Favorite use of "it's all a dream" was Farscape. Season 2, ep 15 "Won't Get Fooled Again". The main character winds up back on Earth. He's already been trapped in a simulation like this before, so he's instantly suspicious, and becomes even more so when his supposedly human boss is a 3" muppet in a hovering throne. Both the protagonist and the audience KNOWS this can't be real, but the question becomes what and why. It also gives the cast a chance to be ridiculously, and ultimately the dream landscape also reveals something about the protagonist that is incredibly important to the plot through the rest of the series.
13:58 Good example of that is in Trope Talk: Greatest Fear, where character being trapped in the nightmare technically doesn't matter, but also shows to audience a side of them we normally never get to see.
I think SSSS.Gridman did this trope well. The events of the show were a dream for one character, but the reveal that it was a dream is essentially the culmination of the character’s emotional arc. But the dream was also real, since there are also more series set in the same world (though, I unfortunately haven’t had the chance to watch them yet, so I don’t know how it develops).
it wasn't a dream, it was a world created from akane's heart. and is as real as gridman
@@Skywolfhd20 She still woke up at the end, tho. Real or not, it was effectively still a dream.
@@trentonbuchert7342 just because she was asleep doesn't mean it was a dream. it's been a few years since i watched gridman so some details are fuzzy but it is very much *not* a dream.
@@Skywolfhd20 It’s been a few years for me too, but I remember it clearly enough to understand that even if it was real in the context of the show, it was still a dream from the perspective of the character.
@@trentonbuchert7342 no amount of mental gymnastics will make the world a dream. just because akane was asleep does not make the world a dream, not even from her perspective. akane was fully aware what was happening both during the show and after she wakes up, this is a fact.
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Really? I thought of one immediately. Season 1 Episode 6 of Helluva Boss. That trip sequence was made specifically for that.
The only movie I've seen that did "It was all just a dream" right was Jacob's Ladder. Throughout the movie the main character is seeing strange things happening around him and demons. He starts having a full-on existential breakdown.
Stop reading here if you haven't seen the movie, but want to and don't want the ending spoiled.
At the end of the movie it's revealed he's a soldier in the Vietnam War who's dying from his wounds and all he was seeing was his brain trying to make sense of everything as he dies.
Oh my god the Sherlock TV series with Benedict Cumberbach may be the worst version of Sherlock Holmes I have ever seen. And that includes him being a mouse!
Over the garden wall came out in 2014.
It ain’t a new show.
Wow, I had no idea that you _hated_ Link's Awakening because that happens to be my favorite game in the series. I think that it is highly debatable that it was all for nothing because the Wind Fish *was* real as were the inhabitants of the island and that included the Nightmares keeping the Fish and coincidentally you trapped. Who knows what would have happened if you had not helped and it's not like you don't know about the dream for the entire game since that gets revealed halfway through so you have to live with the fact that you are wiping out an entire civilian doing this.
True, true. It’s like with Over the Garden Wall, where it is a dream (or like a dream), but also still real/important. And even *if* you disregard all the dream characters in Link’s Awakening, the whole thing still effects Link’s character.
I actually really enjoyed the game itself, which is a big part of why I didn't like the all a dream trope. Although playing it straight before the ending did help, it did leave a bad taste in my mouth for a long time.
@@Airier I just would’ve figured that those points that I talked about would be tics in the win column against “the writers didn’t know what they doing when they used this plot line.”
@@Airier Does it even count as "It Was All A Dream" if it was the Lovecraftian version of it, like "All these people were real and alive but being dreamed into existence by a creature, and by waking the creature you killed everyone."
38:30 sounds like what Disney needed for Star wars
This reminds me of the last scene of St. Elsewhere - where the entire show (all seven seasons, with all it's guest stars, and every aspect of the show) was in the mind of a child with autism who just sat there shaking a freaking snow globe. There are people who have traced this one scene, to calling out practically every show in existence as being part of this child's delusion... so yeah, I understand exactly where you're coming from Airier.
It's all a dream done right: Madoka Magica Episode 1 Setpiece 1. You will understand why it is done right right after Episode 11.
It's done really good in Rebellion.
Starting off it what appears to be one of the alternate timelines, only for things to be off. And then the world itself slowly falls apart as Homura investigates. And knowing the twist doesn't ruin the story, it just makes it fun to notice all the hidden details during the start of the movie.
Thanks for this.
_Over the garden wall_ is kind of mandatory to watch ;) and while I admit, the later non-cannon filler arcs eventually led to me dropping it (apparently right before the end), Inuyasha is one of the most popular old anime and held up as an isekai done right, for a solid reason. Even if of it's era. For the "not real, but matters" route, I think maybe Mcgees Alice is still culturally relevant?
But if it was a dream,
and it wasn't real,
How'd I get a jersey with the name O'Neal?
As someone who writes whats getting called Urban Fantasy these days I HATE this trope. The biggest I HATE IT example is (I think its a john Travolta MOVIE) Where a guy gets hit by a beam from up above and develops powers but in the end its all supposed to have been caused by a brain tumor even the flash of light that kicks off the magic. They could easily have been kept as a beautiful fable with a sad ending. Instead they went with the only magic is love real magic doesn't exist. I'm not down on love. I'm down on people who kill the magic because if you don't let magic live in stories we all loose out.
20:35 yup lol it is, so is Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland
Alice could technically be considered the *first* isekai
And Peter Pan.
@@tinaherr3856 next could be A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court
Novel by Mark Twain
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@@matthewdougherty1159 then after OZ there is the John Carter of Mars books starting in 1911.
@@kagato3 dang it beat me to it lol
The bosses in Link's Awakening by the way are literally called NIGHTMARES
There is no way the fact that it was a dream of the wind fish wasn't obvious
When this trope is just an unexpected twist ending, I think it's pretty dumb. However, I think it can work under some circumstances. It gets used in little ways all the time when a scene starts out that seems like it _might_ be real at first but is then revealed to be a dream (frequently a nightmare). This is a pretty effective way to "show don't tell" exactly what sorts of things the dreaming character might be thinking or worrying about. There are also stories where "it's a dream" might be thematically appropriate, like the ambiguous ending for _Inception._ And in more long-running stories, I think a medium-length "all a dream" scenario can still be useful if the "dream" has a continuous impact on the character(s) who experienced it. I think a good example of this last case is the _Young Justice_ episode "Failsafe," since while the _physical_ consequences of the dream scenario got rolled back, the _emotional_ consequences for the dreaming characters didn't (and got specifically explored in the very next episode).
I hate that everything he said abaut the ending of Narnia is true.
Over the garden wall is an amazing cartoon network miniseries that came out over a decade ago, cartoon network hasn't produce anything good since Infinity train
I’d say my favorite “It was all a dream” would have to be BloodBorne. Unless that doesn’t really count cause by halfway through it starts to become a question of what is a dream and what’s real as the two start to merge in a way
I've toyed with this trope a little bit, sort of, in some scene sketches where the protagonist is an immortal that will sometimes sleep for months or years at a time and interact very vividly with the dreaming world and could see how changes in the waking world changed it.
Yeah, I think its weird when people take up Inception or Matrix as ”its just a dream”. Like sure they dont take place in a physical world, but its still significantly different from ”someones subconscious made it up”.
About the whole "it can work if the dream matters in some way", Danganronpa 2 counts right? That's one that stuck with me for years. And I can't play games like that and Stein's;Gate again because it won't be the same as going through those stories for the first time.
The wording of the Chronicles of Narnia is "It was like a dream." Meaning that Narnia and the Real World is like a fake world, where the afterlife is realer/better than the other part.
Also the end Narnia is different than Narnia that was up to this point. Its basically a Heaven/Platonic, "ideal" form of Narnia that the "materialć one is basically derrivative of.
Religious and philosophical concepts are kinda important as its basically CS Lewis religious fanfic of " how Christian relugious concepts would work in a fairy tale world that is paearell of ours"
There is it's all a dream episode of Bones, that dream resulted in Booth work up with invites to an ongoing case
The Wizard of Oz (the books) describe Kansas's landscape as gray and bleached and Oz as very colorful. So, they didn't have to make it a dream to change the color and make it true to the books. But I suspect they didn't want to do the other books, ever. I'd love to see an anime that really follows the books beginning to end. It would be amazing.
Hey airier, the dream fish mattered.
Honestly one movie I feel takes the "All a Dream" and justs runs with it hard is Inception.
The movies's entire plot is literally jumping into dreams and being able to frabricate dreams so realistic you can't even even tell it is isn't real without some outside method or "flaw in the system" the protagonist team didn't think of. But with the ending we are shown our protagonist happying with his wife, however a coin that the protagonist has usually used to determine if he is inside a dream or not is in frame. The Audience knows from the plot that if the coin does a certain action it means it's not a dream. And the screenwriters actively cut the film off before that can be confirmed, leaving the audience with a small cliffhanger in the end to where was that ending all within a level of the dream world, or actually happening.
Basically the movie actively takes that negative of "you cannot trust what you see" and blurring the line between reality and dream enough to where it actually pulls you back in. And also I think it's an aspect of "controlling" the dream that also grounds it, because the dreams are typically for espionage or gaining info, and thus need to feel so real in itself to fool the target (and also the audience). Yet, having "anchors" that the protag and the audience rely on to be certain of one or the other.
Overall, it's very much a "mindfuck" movie that actively toys with the conception of reality due to the technology and plot, but leaves just enough "breadcrumbs" for you to keep some semblance of a trail to follow.
What? The movie black lines look ehhh on phone. Though that might just be my one, i far prefered the full screen view.
Yeah
In my opinion, there Is one show that, for me, managed the trope, without subverting it, to perfection: Adventure Time.
Spoiler:
In one episode while Finn and Jake are blocked in their home because of the bad weather (dagger rain), Finn feels sad because flame princes, his current girlfriend, didn' t laugh at one of his joke and now he is afraid for the future of their relationship. Jake, therefor, tells him to not be stuck no immaginary problems and to focus on what Is real.
Finn doesn' t understand and goes to reflect inside a pillow fort he built, but in there he finds another world made of pillows and is trapped there.
There he becomes a hero for the people there, a lot of time pass for him, and he marries with the princess of the pillow kingdom and start a family, but he constanly search for the way home, even helped by his pillow family.
He becomes old and start to forget his past, he doesn' t even remeber Jake's face, but ironically he understands his brother advise and decide to live his life with his pillow family.
The time pass and dies peacefully in the pillow world only to return to his house in the real world where time has barely passed. There he trys to tell his brother about the dream/ other dimension he lived, only to be distracted and forget abaut everithing.
I think this episode works because it works with the themes of the episodi, both acknowledging them but also criticize them.
Sorry for my pour english
One, yeah, that definitely sounds like a good use of the trope without subversion. 😮
Two, your English is fine. 😁👍
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Scooby doo mystery incorporated has an episode where scoob gets sick and has a fever dream of other wacky mystery solving teams.
Honestly ive been considering having a small arc in a dnd campaign where the players are in a dream and when they wake up, they havw a few of the items they collected. Making them wonder if it was a dream or not
Realizing you didn't react to overly sarcastic Frankenstein video created a greater shock in me than expected.... I'm gonna touch some grass
I'm saving that for the next Halloween. 😁
This is a really interesting ratio
I like it, but on mobile we see black bars on top and bottom, because youtube is stupid and unless things are fullscreen, ratios other than 16:8 will be scorched
That's part of why I'm doing it. Most everyone watching my vids is on mobile.
@Airier ohhhhhh that's really cool actually, I thought it was unintentional
6:00 Let's be real "Steins Gate" is just surprisingly well written in general
15:40 I think the anime you're talking about is called School-Live! (Gakkō Gurashi!)
There is one anime show I believed used this trope backwards in a way that summarize the whole show. Replace dreams with memories in this particular scenario.
I am talking about "Gleipnir", not going to spoil the show. Just a hint that one of the protagonist suffers mentally because of memory lost, but there is a real reason to why thing should kept hidden behind their mind the whole time.
Also another suggestion is Returning to Oz movie that played this trope, but put in a large twist at the end that made the trope actually to have questions.
So watch the fear of Returning to Oz.
3:33 - You yourself gave an example where the dream mattered. The girl becomes a seagull in the end of that Zelda game you mentioned.
13:43 - Revenge of the Sith does this with an Off-screen dream pushing Anakin to the Darkside.
Here's hoping for more Trope Talks. Love the dissections Red does, love seeing the thoughts they invoke in people familiar with the tropes.
"Based on your understanding of them, you create a simulation in your head of how these characters would act if this situation were real."
Also, that is how fanfiction exists.
@airier the only times I can think of where the dream mattered was an episode of gargoyles, 2-43, future tense, during the world tour arc, where a trickster character was trying to get a magical artifact but because of rules needed to be given it and not take it, also an episode in the first season of young justice, 1-17, disordered, where after a telepathic training session that went out of control and where everyone thout it was real the team was absolutely wrecked because of what happened and the consequences of their actions, both shows ran by the same person now that I think about it, Greg weisman
I really love your takes and I love all OSP vids so this is just awesome. That and I love when you get emotional (either angry at people who eff-up in their writing or cause you're watching Dingo Doodles twist the knife again)
One of the first all a dream plots i think of is a Christmas Carol
15:42 I believe you're talking about School-Live? It's really good imo
On the topic at 4:00 Yip because studies show that the brain, the subconscious, does not differentiate between fiction and reality. You, the conscious you, can tell the difference but not your brain, that's why horror movies work. And with how statistics works, there is Definitely going to be people that cannot distinguish and some that won't distinguish between reality and fiction.
Someone didn't get the ending where Marin survives the Wind Fish waking up.
23:57 My favorite application of this trope is Jiro Taniguchi's manga (technically gekiga) "Distant Neighborhood". Won't spoil how it goes but check it out, it's an amazing (though kind of melancholy and bittersweet) work of art.
The wizard of Oz also has a reverse harem (Not really), and they have the power of friendship
Hmm, what if the heroes are in a dire situation, get an unearned happy ending in *one episode,* and wake up to figure out a solution?
A little late, but I highly reccomend Over the Garden Wall, it's a really fun mini-series
I have no Idea when I got this membership
Bunch of gifted memberships in the last stream.
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@@Airier, huh, what are the perks?
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Mostly watching videos a day or so earlier. Useful when waiting for something specific or when you really want your comments to be seen 😅
young justice stimulation episode in season 1 is done really well since the psycit power mades her think it is really and it has lasting effect like how Robin(dick) figure out her really don't want to be like batman. and wally being traumatiser by Artimis death.
Sorry it is late and my dislexia is currently strong
4:25 i think it was in the Allan Quatermain Book series King Solomon's Mines Novel by H. Rider Haggard Originally published: 1885. huh did not know someone went out looking for the mines thinking it was real. side note if you want some true stories that sound like fiction Adrian Carton de Wiart aka the unkillable soldier or Aimo Allan Koivunen the soldier that took all the meth, The Fat Electrician has a good video on Aimo ruclips.net/video/NazN5WcXwio/видео.html or the real life Starfox Ace fighter pilot Sir Douglas Bader. in some cases life is stranger than fiction lol
EDIT: you addressed it, okay it's intentional
Ughhhhhh there a reason why it so wide? Testing something out?
Yep. Trying a new aspect ratio.
Since more than half of the people watching are on phones, I figured it was worth trying out.
@@AirierWhile it now fits the entirety of my phone. The problem with this is that the camera is part of the phone screen for some reason because that's how the S10 Plus is designed and just the top left corner is completely cut out of the video. Not a huge deal but that is what the change is for me
@@Airier watching this on a phone, and yeah this is actually worse for me. It letterboxes the video basically, with no benefits from that 😂
15:32 not that i seen it but i think you talking about school-live
the basic World Anvil is free.
I am _definitely_ not the first person to say you should react to EPIC: The Musical; if you enjoy Greek mythology and OSPs videos on it, you'll definitely like it. The next saga will be coming out on July 14th (I believe? atleast sometime mid July), so it could be a good time to jump in
Seconded for epic, though Im not sure if he's done song reactions before
Honestly I think you would enjoy and appreciate Over the Garden Wall a lot. maybe you should even consider reacting to it! I assure you it would be popular, and it would make a great fall show.
I like this new set up.
Airier, you should absolutely react to Over The Garden Wall!
Then, of course, there is "dream" that isn't really a dream, but also isn't - technically speaking - real; it's VR. Because VR is a sort of waking-dream, so it can play with the 'all a dream' trope AND still have things matter. It's still possible to mess it up or be a bad writer while using it. Look at SAO. Then look at SAO Abridged which keeps all of the good things about SAO and gets rid of the bad stuff because the fans were somehow better writers. No, I'm not biased. At all. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to watch 'quotable moments from SAO abridged' again.
Also, I am in college pursuing a degree in writing fiction. I also started taking notes from Red's Trope Talk's series before I entered the degree program I am currently pursuing. I am also nearing my 40s. College is taking a while....yeah....
The troy thing is so much worse the ruins of troy were located closer to the surface and he whent deep what a Dickson and orphan the son
The example of batman all a dream example isn’t abut Barbra becoming orecol the dream is that she dies and Gordon goes after Batman with deadly force I think I didn’t watch it I just watched a video on it
Alice in Wonderland is an isekai
It's not just something that took over anime
Hope you react to Epic: The Musical, it follows Odysseys story and if you like Greek mythology you’ll probably enjoy it.
you should check out the trope talk on greatest fears!
@16:02 Ah School Live! Yeah, you're not spoiling too much because that happens at the end of the first episode. There's a few more twists in the series, from what I heard, but I can't watch it because any form of horror is no good for my poor brain.
And World Anvil is one of the most consistent sponsors for OSP. Lots of writers like the Trope Talks, but WA also helps GMs. I actually have an account on both, but I much prefer WA.
Airer what the fudge is up with your tabs? Do you need that many opened?
Why are the videos in widescreen instead of fullscreen?
Trying something new.
Watch Over The Garden Wall. It's fantastic!
Its all just a dream.
Klonoa, 😢
I know this isn't really your type of video but could you react to Sawyer Lee's video "How monsters effect societies"?
so dose Warframe is good exampled of it was all a dream with war within quest?
About people not realising that fiction isn't real. I lost brain cells seeing people saying U.S should open relationship with Wakanda
I'm sorry I don't think you know what the word "subversion" means.
In no possible way is having the dream matter a "subversion". The Tropes is "It's all a dream", ANYTHING THAT IS ALL A DREAM IS THIS TROPE, it can not possibly be subverted if it was all a dream. It does not matter how much the dream matters, it does not matter what trauma it gives a character, if it was all a dream, it was all a dream!
You are confusing a very specific subset of the trope with the entire thing. Like I hope this doesn't come off as angry, I'm not, but the Trope is called "It's all a Dream", not "This didn't matter", please stop ignoring that.
Not so much ignoring, as consciously and intentionally correlating "it's all a dream" to "it doesn't matter."
Well the way the trope is set up might indicate that it's all encompassing, but it's most commonly applied to when it doesn't matter. And anytime where "it" does, it feels like a fundamental change to the trope itself. That's why I called it subversion, since it took it in a completely different direction.
Huh
react to anti hero trope next please.
You want a scenario where the “it’s all just someone’s dying dream” thing would not only work, but be a relief? The sequel trilogy.
“Somehow, Palpatine returned”, indeed. Everyone knows who the Sith are/were, characters just end up places with no real explanation, that nonsense with the dagger, he can suddenly disable an entire *fleet* with his force lightning, he *also* has an entire fleet of Star Destroyers that can (somehow) do what he’d previously needed an entire Death Star to do, even if he loses he still wins… All of that the delusion of whatever kind of dark side spirit he might have ended up as. How else do you explain a hyperspace weapon that the protagonists can somehow see in real time (and real space) from somewhere else in the galaxy entirely? Hyperspace ramming that would have completely broken ship combat if it were really possible (and the Rebellion never trying it, for some reason, even though they could have just sent a droid in an X-Wing to smash through a Star Destroyer, or the Death Star itself)? Luke Skywalker, who managed to turn his father back to the Light with his faith and hope, nearly murdering his own nephew due to sensing some darkness in him, then cutting himself off from the Force and giving up on everything?
Tell me all of that being Palpatine’s dying delusion wouldn’t make *perfect* sense. 😎
Penacony.
Airier can you react to the boy tha found fear
No idea what that is.
@@Airier they mean one of OSP video "The Boy Who Found Fear". and let me tell you, it is one of the coolest fairytale that Red ever found and tell.....next to "other" book that she make video out off....
@@violetwitch9948 ye that one
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I agree, it’s one of the best stories Red has ever recapped.
It was just a dream may as well be called "you wasted precious life watching this pointless story, losers !"
i don't like this new wide screen format, change bad