24:35 Very strange! You’re not taking the time to properly understand or critique Islam, yet you still feel the need to criticise it without any real knowledge. The best thing to do is to research Islam thoroughly, as well as Christianity and Judaism, and learn how to approach comparative religion. Criticising something you don’t fully understand only weakens your position. You might feel frustrated by someone who has studied the Bible, the Torah, and other religions and critiques them from an informed standpoint. But if you haven’t done the same, what makes you feel qualified to criticise Islam, especially when you lack the necessary knowledge?
We, Muslims, encourage people to question us. Islam should not be followed blindly. You both should put a question together. Right now, it seems I'm listening to two children discussing a subject that they have zero knowledge of. Disappointed!
@@RaDiRLYT Yes , Allah knows best . But Akhi I was speaking based on this video , they atleast doesn't seem interested in finding the truth in this video. If they were sincere they would have put atleast a little bit of effort of what Grayson did instead of claiming things without fact chacking . Well Allah guides whom He wills . Have a good day 😊
@@RaDiRLYT Has Greyson reverted to Islam???? Was following him but some comments he once made,made me unsubscribed from his Channel. ALHAMDULILLAH IF HE HAS BEEN GUIDED.
Listening up to 13:56 about your take on this and all I can say is rubbish. The discussion Ali had with the Atheist didn’t focus on getting the answers right or even rehearsing to do so. Instead, it was all about logic. The information presented up to that point was generic, covering concepts that are universally accepted - for example, that 0 + 0 doesn’t equal 1, and that something cannot arise from nothing.
41:13 To believe in Islam, Muslims must accept it as 100% the truth. This is why Islam encourages its followers to question, ponder and research their faith. It openly invites inquiry and critical thinking, urging believers to seek understanding through exploration. This openness to scrutiny is one of the reasons why Islam is the fastest-growing religion - many people embrace it after conducting thorough research and finding it compelling.
And what if the more one researches it the more confidene they lose in it? So in this case the possibility for them accepting it 100% is virtually zero, so are you saying thay should never accept Islam in this case
I am surprised by you guys, when you stop the video you do not discuss the point and argument in the video.. Instead you go to distant personal matters that have nothing to do with the video?! I hope for a response
like every single time 🙃 same like the previous surah Maryam reaction; instead of discussing the content of the Quran, they commented on the way the reciter raising his voice at certain verses and had little chuckles
Muslim lantern .. He specializes in religions and does not defame religions.. Rather, he presents what Christians believe.. Give me something wrong in what he said that is considered defamation of Christians.
42:22 good question. What you said after Muslims are in tune with. Where did Allah come from? The principle of cause and effect applies to the created universe, where everything has a beginning and is caused by something else. However, Allah is not part of the created universe. He is the ultimate cause of all existence and, therefore, is not bound by the rules of creation. The existence of a finely-tuned and ordered universe points to a necessary being who caused it. That necessary being is Allah, who is uncaused and self-sufficient (Al-Samad). This concept is central to Islamic monotheism (Tawhid), which emphasizes Allah’s uniqueness and transcendence.
And I wish to include that Muslims ( atleast me) have no problem if someone wish to address god by another name other than Allah ( as there is various language in the world other than Arabic) but we do have problem when someone takes another partner to God.
45:15 Before mocking the authenticity of Prophet Muhammad ﷺ, have you studied his life and message in depth? You speak from sheer ignorance. The Quran he brought transformed civilisations, contained profound wisdom and included fulfilled prophecies. How could an unlettered man from 7th-century Arabia achieve this without divine guidance? I encourage you to research thoroughly before showing arrogance or dismissing something so significant.
You are forgetting something , Muslims do believe in Prophets Jesus and Moses (Peace Be Upon Them Both) but Muslims also has some disagreement with Christians and Jews. Quran even called them People of The Book.
42:26 1. Everything that begins to exist has a cause. 2. The universe began to exist, so it must have a cause. 3. God is the necessary being and uncaused cause. 4. Infinite regress of causes is impossible. 5. Only God can create something from nothing (creation ex nihilo). 6. God is eternal and beyond time, so the question of His cause is invalid.
If something cannot come from nothing, that means that existence must be infinite. The meaning of infinite is that it has no beginning or end. That is, its existence comes from itself. Limited Justin, isn't that enough of an explanation for you? :) It would be nice if you could try to contact muslim lantern for an online meeting.
@40:45 "its good to be skeptical" really?? for some things we can but for some other things we cannot. To give fair example - you pooped this morning and you start to thinking maybe my poop is not really a poop? maybe its a piece of chocolate cake...maybe i should taste it a bit........ Oh my dear!
I agree to your point about being skeptical about whether or not what i believe in is the truth, and as a muslim i think about it every single day. More often than not very shockingly if i think of a question such as why is it this way and not the other in just my head, going about my day working, sometimes within the same day or the same week i find the answer to that question, either on the phone by listening to a podcast or even just talking to people around me irl, and remember exactly how i thought about it before and now found the answer, and it has happened more times than i can count. It’s just by my free will that i take those signs and accept the truth, time and time again theres a logical and sound explanation for everything in Islam, no matter the problem. It is indeed a user manual for life
44:24 let me correct u, smartphone is not a sign of end time, prophet Muhammad prophecy mentioned is about END OF TIME, so of course smart phone is not one of them, so please listen carefully to the video, u are thinkin of what to react instead of listening
44:08 sahih muslim 144 A Hudhaifa said: I heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be, upon him ) observing: Temptations will be presented to men's hearts as reed mat is woven stick by stick and any heart which is impregnated by them will have a black mark put into it, but any heart which rejects them will have a white mark put in it. The result is that there will become two types of hearts: one white like a white stone which will not be harmed by any turmoil or temptation, so long as the heavens and the earth endure; and the other black and dust-coloured like a vessel which is upset, not recognizing what is good or rejecting what is abominable, but being impregnated with passion.
The guy on the right isn’t critically thinking he is very emotional. You just watched Muslim Lantern walk the other guy through a rational process on why god HAS to exist and you come back at 15:22 and say because of personal experience…like what are we doing here?? He didn’t even mention religion until he rationally established there has to be a necessary existence for the universe to exist and then he went on to disprove the other religions based on findings.
I'm glad you asked, "where did Allah come from?" ML didn't answer it in this video, but he has in other videos. The question is, is the purpose of your channel to pick on a few points that were not explained or lead your viewers to think and investigate.
i will mybe learn you nothing new from this but that how i see logic mybe you already know it but refuse to reflect on it i will respond to 42:16 Allah did not come from anything; He is not a created entity that we can ask, "Where did He come from?" He has no beginning and no end. Unlike the universe, which exists within the confines of time and space, Allah is the Creator of both time and the universe itself. He is not bound by the laws and the laws of time or limitations of His creation. To allah there is no before, now, and after. The reality is that there has always been One-one God, the ultimate source of everything. Before the universe came into existence approximately 14 billion years ago, it was essentially "nothing"-a zero. But from that zero, Allah brought everything into being. Without the One, there would remain nothing, for He is the necessary being who brought all of existence into reality. Quran make many time this ringed verses to reflect on existence here are some not all: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Or were they created by nothing, or are they ˹their own˺ creators? Or did they create the heavens and the earth? In fact, they have no certainty.Or do they possess the treasuries of your Lord, or are they in control ˹of everything˺? (Quran 52:35 to 52: 37) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Do the disbelievers not realize that the heavens and earth were ˹once˺ one mass then We split them apart? And We created from water every living thing. Will they not then believe? (Quran 21:30) it a reference to what we call today the bigbang theory that was mentioned in quran 1400years ago. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quran Surah al ikhlas: Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “He is Allah-One ˹and Indivisible˺; Allah-the Sustainer ˹needed by all˺. He has never had offspring, nor was He born. And there is none comparable to Him.” ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
God didn't give us religion. He gave us a message and that message has been carried out throughout the history and civilization through hundreds of prophets and messengers. God isn't the god of any religion he is the creator of the heavens and the earth. So there is no debate about which religion is true but it's about which one carry and follow the original message.
Keep reacting to islam but i feel u two look like two children that don't know anything what's going on around them just living with flow... So brothers keep react hope one day u will accept Islam
41:25 i totally agree with this tooo if your faith or belief is strong you shouldn't be scared to know things that contradict you or are just outside of your beliefs being open to the world only brings good
😂It's not really surprising to me when someone critisizes another for behaving gentlemanly because they themselves never behaved gentlemanly ever. What do this guys expect from our Akhi who is giving dawah in a public place ? to act childishly like them? Isn't it only proper to behave yourself in a public place?
فَٱبْتَغُوا۟ عِندَ ٱللَّهِ ٱلرِّزْقَ وَٱعْبُدُوهُ وَٱشْكُرُوا۟ لَهُۥٓ ۖ إِلَيْهِ تُرْجَعُونَ So seek from Allah provision and worship Him and be grateful to Him. To Him you will be returned.
Its not about debate, I think u are afraid too get challenged for your beliefs, the fact is, Islam is the only truth, this brother Mohammed Ali, is reachable, u don’t have to have a debate, have a conversation, because being just “spiritual” is not a thing
وَمَا كَانَ اللَّهُ لِيُعْجِزَهُ مِن شَيْءٍ فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَلَا فِي الْأَرْضِ But Allah is not to be caused failure by anything in the heavens or on the earth.
They need to understand the concept of a God and how God is perceived in Islam and how all the religions are perceived by Islam. You may be Muslim and judging from a one sided perspective, but you and these guys need to grasp all perspectives
This prophecy of the Arab Beduins competing in high buildings was one of the Hadiths that i learned when I was young in the sixties....Then Egypt was a cosmopolitan country with Italian , Greek expats living & with European inspired buildings & districts unlike the image the West propagated of it being a desert with camels running around.....on the other hand all the Gulf countries were exactly this. When I was memorizing this Hadith I was wondering how in earth this could be since I knew how underdeveloped they were specially when my father visited Kuwait & came to tell us that his host had built a big house but did not use the bathroom facilities bc he was not used to it & prefered to relieve himself outdoors as he used to when he lived in his tent....They went from tents to palaces & from camels to Porches in a decade. I have lived long enough to see this prophecy come true & i am a witness to it ,with the Burje Khalifa being the tallest building in the world , the Mecca clock being the highest in the world & Saudi Arabia planning to build a skyscraper higher than that of Dubai. I thank Allah for Islam & may Allah guide you to the straight path.
this point ur making is kind of stupid im sorry 11:55 emmm there is something called knowledge wich u dnt have apparently, and that social intellegent is the only thing u urself have and u think u got it all 5:05 that smirk say's it all. i think ur looking down on people's intellegent in this chanel thinking we dnt know what ur actually trying to do here ''stay spiritual'' ??? everything u do here is antispiritual.
That was nonsensical about somebody who has been doing dawah for like a decade and has heard every question and met every personality type under the sun being quick and calm answering questions without looking left and right and pondering every single thing😂 what kind of criteria is that to determine truth. Just because athiests are permanently confused doesnt mean everybody else has to be😂
A creator is self-sufficient, independent, so he didn't come from something. A creation is NOT self-sufficient, NOT independent, so they must come from something. You are applying what applies to the creation to the creator.
He didn't say other religions are corrupt. You always take things in a negative way .He is comparing other religions which is done by people who study to come to the conclusion why are there many religions in the world and what is common ,why is a specific religion being followed. If you cant chose one religion on the basis of fact then you are definitely a hypocrite. Choosing one religion needs discarding others but on the basis of falsely acclaimed statements in the other religious books so as to come to a conclusion that you have chosen facts and logic over myth and falsehood
رَبِّ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ وَمَا بَيْنَهُمَا ۖ إِنْ كُنْتُمْ مُوقِنِينَ Lord of the heavens and the earth and that between them, if you would be certain. Holy Quran
"And they will say, "Praise to Allah, who has fulfilled for us His promise and made us inherit the earth [so] we may settle in Paradise wherever we will. And excellent is the reward of [righteous] workers."" Az-Zumar 39:74
"..what He brought into existence is an absolute evidence that He exists..." (2:26) and so on we go into the morass of circular reasoning starting from an a priori claim (a non-provable starting point) that God exists, and therefore what we see (patterns, wonders in Nature, in the cosmos) is evidence of that Being....hmmm. Nevertheless, good on you fellows for locating interesting discussions to react to :)
It was predicted in the past that there will a time when people will have little knowlege and lot of information and those people will talk on any topic as experts having not even surface knowlege. These two guys are the perfect example. Try to concentrate on their conversation and then focus on topic in hand and you will be surprise how tangential their points are. I was trying to make sense of their talks and got nothing except headach at the end. Both guys are making comments before watching the video. It is same as making comments about what is in the book before reading it.
I'm done ever watching y'all again. I thought y'all were sincerely searching for truth, but in reality you guys just project every insecurity of your childhood onto these videos. It's incredible the amount of times y'all indulge in hypothetical not existent matters, instead of listening to the points made. It's so ironic, this channel is probably the most close minded channel on youtube that claims to be open-mind
Literally it’s so ironic. And I bet they’ll see these comments as ‘a bunch of close minded religious people who are frustrated because we don’t subscribe to their ideology’ blabla know-it-all. Uno reverse🗿
The universe has a starting point that's why we say that something created it because we can't say there's something that came from nothing. But Allah is the eternal he doesn't have a starting point he is always existing that's why we have the universe. It's a must that there's always something existing and that's what we call god. Or we wouldn't even be exiting today.
سُبْحَانَ الَّذِي خَلَقَ الْأَزْوَاجَ كُلَّهَا مِمَّا تُنبِتُ الْأَرْضُ وَمِنْ أَنفُسِهِمْ وَمِمَّا لَا يَعْلَمُونَ Exalted is He who created all pairs - from what the earth grows and from themselves and from that which they do not know. Holy Quran
وَالْقُرْآنِ الْحَكِيمِ * إِنَّكَ لَمِنَ الْمُرْسَلِينَ * عَلَىٰ صِرَاطٍ مُّسْتَقِيمٍ By the wise Qur'an. * Indeed you, [O Muhammad], are from among the messengers, * On a straight path.
I would love to see you guys asking you questions and the points you make to him. it would be an interesting video to watch. please arrange a meeting with him we would love to see it and I think it would be a valuable discussion.
You guys should have a conversation with Muslim lantern, im sure it will be a fruitful conversation. About where did Allah come from? We say Allah is uncreated, something cannot come from nothing, this means there was alwys something, and we say that something that always existed is Allah, you guys should look up ibn sina's proof for a necessary existence, it necessitates that the universe requires a necessary existence to be in existence, now onto your question about the prophesies why are they not about phones etc. The prophesies are specifically about the signs of the day of judgement, it seems as if while being spectical of islam you guys forgot to be spectical about yourself, you should look up the channel "many prophets one message" for more prophesies made about the future by prophet muhammad pbuh
Watching two adult children who they think that they’re intelligent to a degree that makes you wanna scream out of anger, the amount of ignorance is staggering.
There is no disagreement. All books say God has no image, no pratima, there is nothing like unto Allah etc. Comparative religion helps get to the purest form of the religion for which we should trust the most logical and honest person because if researchers don't do their research honestly, then the results they report are not repeatable. In other words, when in doubt we remember to turn to basics, which is fitra aka submitting to God
Thank you, gentlemen. I may be responding in the wrong comment section, judging by the other comments here. My heart goes out to man identified as "atheist." I hope he finds what he needs and discards what he doesn't need. Remember, gentlemen, if a belief can be proven, then it is not a belief. It is knowledge. And that is fine. Different tools for different tasks. Nobody believes in rocks. And I only believe in the Sun at midnight. On the winter solstice.
He is the Creator he cant be created and the time and place he created everything he isnt bound by them hey look if u want to doubt everything then u will never be certain of anything u will live your life being ignorant is that the way u want to live it
At first i think this is about a good reaction instead of "show off" of illiteracy and foolishness. you guys dont even know how to think properly. Sorry to say that.
Regarding which religion is true and which are false, or they are all false because they can't be true at the same time since you can't have two contradicting statements true at the same time. For example, the statement, "whether the earth is flat or spherical in reality". Only one can be true or both statements are false. I think the question you must ask yourself first is "Do I really care about the truth or am I don't really care about the truth?" if it was the latter then there is no point in seeking knowledge about anything in the first place.
"Honestly, it’s clear that neither of them understands the topic they’re discussing. All I’ve heard are emotional appeals without any convincing arguments or answers. The person on the right, especially, relied solely on sarcasm and didn’t present a single logical or coherent statement. Their suggestion that 'something can come from nothing' is completely baffling. Really? At this rate, atheism might as well come with its own leap-of-faith handbook!"
❤️Narrated Abu Huraira: I heard Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) saying, Verily Allah created Mercy. The day He created it, He made it into one hundred parts. He withheld with Him ninety-nine parts, and sent its one part to all His creatures. Had the non-believer known of all the Mercy which is in the Hands of Allah, he would not lose hope of entering Paradise, and had the believer known of all the punishment which is present with Allah, he would not consider himself safe from the Hell-Fire."❤️🇵🇸🤲🏼
The paths to reach the ultimate Truth, are diverse. However, there can only one objective truth. Hence, even two contradicting claims of truth can not exist at the same time.
In the world people respect knowledge and the people of knowledge as Islam encourage us repeatedly and consistently to seek for knowledge, wisdom and truth also encourage us to read, research, think, analysis our beliefs, heart, and actions and in the same time Allah doesn't left us alone, he sent messengers, books with one message to guide us to fulfill our life in this world and the afterlife. So we have to be humble when we listening to the people who have knowledge, wisdom, education in specific field more than us, then if we doesn't convinced or agree with them we can push them back with our arguments and analysis not just disagree for disagreement that is not how people reach to the truth if you are both guys searches for it.
@@stayspiritual there are so much wrong on other religions unfortunately... and yes, logic is the basic of our life/survival... if i don't believe in logic, might as well i just cross the road without looking as "my logic" says im a superman and no cars will brake my steel body if they hit me
@@stayspiritual Claiming anything is easy but proving it, only islam can. Plus others from other religions don't use logic anyway because they depend their belief on faith only. And iam speaking about logical arguments we can't present contradictory beliefs as one thing that we believe than we say oh it's an argument but logically that doesn't make any sense. I think you should speak with Muslim Lentern to know our religion more. Thank you for being honest with your followers.
I invite you to salvation by worshipping ALLAH alone without any partners That's Islamic Monotheism ( total submission to ALLAH alone) That's the religion of all the Prophets from Adam to noah to Abraham to Moses to Jesus to Muhammad PBUT all
Thank you for your opinion. Muslims are believe in Tora and Gospel that were given to Moses and Jesus too, of course there can be true prophecies. But it has many contradictions
23:45 this is a process. This is logic. There are steps He began by asking if he believed the world created itself . Because If the other guy says yes there is no point continuing. Then went on disqualifying religion because it logic. Even the other guy agreed. Can’t have all the religion true. So you disqualify religions to narrow the answers that can be true. What can you learn with a false religion ? Arguing with people who’s faith has been corrupted or changed ? Picking more than one religion literally defeats the purpose of religion. Following god’s message . God will not send 20 different messages at the same time. World will be in chaos. If your idea is comparing and seeing which is valid you’re going at it the wrong way. Thinking like that, polytheism is still an option. It’s already over
All your questions have already been answered in his other videos. If you really want the answers, just check them out. Or if you’re just asking without expecting answers, say it casually.🙌
WHY DON’T YALL DEBATE OR GIVE HIM A CALL THE MUSLIM LANTERN AND LET’S SEE IF YALL CAN GET IT RIGHT OR GET AWAY WITH ALL THIS CRAP YALL TALKING ABOUT SUBHANNALLAAH
24:35 Very strange! You’re not taking the time to properly understand or critique Islam, yet you still feel the need to criticise it without any real knowledge. The best thing to do is to research Islam thoroughly, as well as Christianity and Judaism, and learn how to approach comparative religion. Criticising something you don’t fully understand only weakens your position. You might feel frustrated by someone who has studied the Bible, the Torah, and other religions and critiques them from an informed standpoint. But if you haven’t done the same, what makes you feel qualified to criticise Islam, especially when you lack the necessary knowledge?
We, Muslims, encourage people to question us. Islam should not be followed blindly. You both should put a question together. Right now, it seems I'm listening to two children discussing a subject that they have zero knowledge of. Disappointed!
Agreed 💯 but it seems they only react to videos regarding religion for views not for finding the truth , so I don't think they care😅
@Tahmina-p3hremember grayson brock started reacting too end up Muslim so Allah plans and he is the best of Planners.
@@RaDiRLYT Yes , Allah knows best . But Akhi I was speaking based on this video , they atleast doesn't seem interested in finding the truth in this video. If they were sincere they would have put atleast a little bit of effort of what Grayson did instead of claiming things without fact chacking . Well Allah guides whom He wills . Have a good day 😊
@@RaDiRLYT Has Greyson reverted to Islam???? Was following him but some comments he once made,made me unsubscribed from his Channel.
ALHAMDULILLAH IF HE HAS BEEN GUIDED.
@@Guide-us-all-to-the-straight-pyeah he reverted recently
Listening up to 13:56 about your take on this and all I can say is rubbish. The discussion Ali had with the Atheist didn’t focus on getting the answers right or even rehearsing to do so. Instead, it was all about logic. The information presented up to that point was generic, covering concepts that are universally accepted - for example, that 0 + 0 doesn’t equal 1, and that something cannot arise from nothing.
41:13 To believe in Islam, Muslims must accept it as 100% the truth. This is why Islam encourages its followers to question, ponder and research their faith. It openly invites inquiry and critical thinking, urging believers to seek understanding through exploration. This openness to scrutiny is one of the reasons why Islam is the fastest-growing religion - many people embrace it after conducting thorough research and finding it compelling.
And what if the more one researches it the more confidene they lose in it? So in this case the possibility for them accepting it 100% is virtually zero, so are you saying thay should never accept Islam in this case
Lol 😂 best joke ever
What happened to salman rashidi and all others who question it , we all know it
47:15 You clearly know very little about Islam, yet you talk about being honest with oneself, earnest and straightforward. The irony is hard to miss.
I am surprised by you guys, when you stop the video you do not discuss the point and argument in the video.. Instead you go to distant personal matters that have nothing to do with the video?! I hope for a response
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like every single time 🙃
same like the previous surah Maryam reaction; instead of discussing the content of the Quran, they commented on the way the reciter raising his voice at certain verses and had little chuckles
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Muslim lantern .. He specializes in religions and does not defame religions.. Rather, he presents what Christians believe.. Give me something wrong in what he said that is considered defamation of Christians.
muslim lantern is open for podcast, you may have conversation with him.
42:22 good question. What you said after Muslims are in tune with. Where did Allah come from? The principle of cause and effect applies to the created universe, where everything has a beginning and is caused by something else. However, Allah is not part of the created universe. He is the ultimate cause of all existence and, therefore, is not bound by the rules of creation. The existence of a finely-tuned and ordered universe points to a necessary being who caused it. That necessary being is Allah, who is uncaused and self-sufficient (Al-Samad).
This concept is central to Islamic monotheism (Tawhid), which emphasizes Allah’s uniqueness and transcendence.
And I wish to include that Muslims ( atleast me) have no problem if someone wish to address god by another name other than Allah ( as there is various language in the world other than Arabic) but we do have problem when someone takes another partner to God.
45:15 Before mocking the authenticity of Prophet Muhammad ﷺ, have you studied his life and message in depth? You speak from sheer ignorance. The Quran he brought transformed civilisations, contained profound wisdom and included fulfilled prophecies. How could an unlettered man from 7th-century Arabia achieve this without divine guidance? I encourage you to research thoroughly before showing arrogance or dismissing something so significant.
إِنَّ اللَّهَ عَالِمُ غَيْبِ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ ۚ
Indeed, Allah is Knower of the unseen [aspects] of the heavens and earth.
You are forgetting something , Muslims do believe in Prophets Jesus and Moses (Peace Be Upon Them Both) but Muslims also has some disagreement with Christians and Jews. Quran even called them People of The Book.
42:26
1. Everything that begins to exist has a cause.
2. The universe began to exist, so it must have a cause.
3. God is the necessary being and uncaused cause.
4. Infinite regress of causes is impossible.
5. Only God can create something from nothing (creation ex nihilo).
6. God is eternal and beyond time, so the question of His cause is invalid.
If something cannot come from nothing, that means that existence must be infinite. The meaning of infinite is that it has no beginning or end. That is, its existence comes from itself. Limited Justin, isn't that enough of an explanation for you? :) It would be nice if you could try to contact muslim lantern for an online meeting.
@40:45 "its good to be skeptical" really?? for some things we can but for some other things we cannot. To give fair example - you pooped this morning and you start to thinking maybe my poop is not really a poop? maybe its a piece of chocolate cake...maybe i should taste it a bit........ Oh my dear!
@@kgdangar2 😂😂😂😂 That was a good example
Guys if you have questions go and ask Mohammed Ali, he goes live in the Weekends
I agree to your point about being skeptical about whether or not what i believe in is the truth, and as a muslim i think about it every single day.
More often than not very shockingly if i think of a question such as why is it this way and not the other in just my head, going about my day working, sometimes within the same day or the same week i find the answer to that question, either on the phone by listening to a podcast or even just talking to people around me irl, and remember exactly how i thought about it before and now found the answer, and it has happened more times than i can count. It’s just by my free will that i take those signs and accept the truth, time and time again theres a logical and sound explanation for everything in Islam, no matter the problem. It is indeed a user manual for life
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44:24 let me correct u, smartphone is not a sign of end time, prophet Muhammad prophecy mentioned is about END OF TIME, so of course smart phone is not one of them, so please listen carefully to the video, u are thinkin of what to react instead of listening
Bro islam is just the truth.
That's not how it works bro
And some people will never join islam
A lot of people are converting to islam and hopefully Allah guide them to Islam some people they’re still confused
44:08 sahih muslim 144 A Hudhaifa said: I heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be, upon him ) observing: Temptations will be presented to men's hearts as reed mat is woven stick by stick and any heart which is impregnated by them will have a black mark put into it, but any heart which rejects them will have a white mark put in it. The result is that there will become two types of hearts: one white like a white stone which will not be harmed by any turmoil or temptation, so long as the heavens and the earth endure; and the other black and dust-coloured like a vessel which is upset, not recognizing what is good or rejecting what is abominable, but being impregnated with passion.
The guy on the right isn’t critically thinking he is very emotional. You just watched Muslim Lantern walk the other guy through a rational process on why god HAS to exist and you come back at 15:22 and say because of personal experience…like what are we doing here?? He didn’t even mention religion until he rationally established there has to be a necessary existence for the universe to exist and then he went on to disprove the other religions based on findings.
Watched this back to back! Great content! Hope you speak with Lantern in the future!
I'm glad you asked, "where did Allah come from?" ML didn't answer it in this video, but he has in other videos. The question is, is the purpose of your channel to pick on a few points that were not explained or lead your viewers to think and investigate.
What exactly do you guys believe in. Your arguments are all over the place.
what argument haven't seen anything but a crybabys crying about how he looks and behaves
they believe in shaitan(satanism)
i will mybe learn you nothing new from this but that how i see logic mybe you already know it but refuse to reflect on it i will respond to 42:16
Allah did not come from anything; He is not a created entity that we can ask, "Where did He come from?" He has no beginning and no end. Unlike the universe, which exists within the confines of time and space, Allah is the Creator of both time and the universe itself. He is not bound by the laws and the laws of time or limitations of His creation. To allah there is no before, now, and after.
The reality is that there has always been One-one God, the ultimate source of everything. Before the universe came into existence approximately 14 billion years ago, it was essentially "nothing"-a zero. But from that zero, Allah brought everything into being. Without the One, there would remain nothing, for He is the necessary being who brought all of existence into reality.
Quran make many time this ringed verses to reflect on existence here are some not all:
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Or were they created by nothing, or are they ˹their own˺ creators? Or did they create the heavens and the earth? In fact, they have no certainty.Or do they possess the treasuries of your Lord, or are they in control ˹of everything˺? (Quran 52:35 to 52: 37)
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Do the disbelievers not realize that the heavens and earth were ˹once˺ one mass then We split them apart? And We created from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?
(Quran 21:30)
it a reference to what we call today the bigbang theory that was mentioned in quran 1400years ago.
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Quran Surah al ikhlas:
Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “He is Allah-One ˹and Indivisible˺;
Allah-the Sustainer ˹needed by all˺.
He has never had offspring, nor was He born.
And there is none comparable to Him.”
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الْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ الَّذِي أَنزَلَ عَلَىٰ عَبْدِهِ الْكِتَابَ وَلَمْ يَجْعَل لَّهُ عِوَجًا ۜ (1) قَيِّمًا لِّيُنذِرَ بَأْسًا شَدِيدًا مِّن لَّدُنْهُ وَيُبَشِّرَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ الَّذِينَ يَعْمَلُونَ الصَّالِحَاتِ أَنَّ لَهُمْ أَجْرًا حَسَنًا (2)
God didn't give us religion. He gave us a message and that message has been carried out throughout the history and civilization through hundreds of prophets and messengers. God isn't the god of any religion he is the creator of the heavens and the earth. So there is no debate about which religion is true but it's about which one carry and follow the original message.
Keep reacting to islam but i feel u two look like two children that don't know anything what's going on around them just living with flow... So brothers keep react hope one day u will accept Islam
41:25 i totally agree with this tooo if your faith or belief is strong you shouldn't be scared to know things that contradict you or are just outside of your beliefs being open to the world only brings good
😂It's not really surprising to me when someone critisizes another for behaving gentlemanly because they themselves never behaved gentlemanly ever. What do this guys expect from our Akhi who is giving dawah in a public place ? to act childishly like them? Isn't it only proper to behave yourself in a public place?
فَٱبْتَغُوا۟ عِندَ ٱللَّهِ ٱلرِّزْقَ وَٱعْبُدُوهُ وَٱشْكُرُوا۟ لَهُۥٓ ۖ إِلَيْهِ تُرْجَعُونَ
So seek from Allah provision and worship Him and be grateful to Him. To Him you will be returned.
Its not about debate, I think u are afraid too get challenged for your beliefs, the fact is, Islam is the only truth, this brother Mohammed Ali, is reachable, u don’t have to have a debate, have a conversation, because being just “spiritual” is not a thing
Bro the issue with you guys, is y'all generalize evrything and never look at the actual claims. Like what is the point of your channel?
وَمَا كَانَ اللَّهُ لِيُعْجِزَهُ مِن شَيْءٍ فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَلَا فِي الْأَرْضِ
But Allah is not to be caused failure by anything in the heavens or on the earth.
Honestly have to stop watching these guys, they never get the points being made and go soo off topic
They need to understand the concept of a God and how God is perceived in Islam and how all the religions are perceived by Islam. You may be Muslim and judging from a one sided perspective, but you and these guys need to grasp all perspectives
they believe in shaitan(satanism)
وَٱلذَّٰرِيَٰتِ ذَرۡوٗا (1) فَٱلۡحَٰمِلَٰتِ وِقۡرٗا (2) فَٱلۡجَٰرِيَٰتِ يُسۡرٗا (3) فَٱلۡمُقَسِّمَٰتِ أَمۡرًا (4) إِنَّمَا تُوعَدُونَ لَصَادِقٞ (5) وَإِنَّ ٱلدِّينَ لَوَٰقِعٞ (6)
This prophecy of the Arab Beduins competing in high buildings was one of the Hadiths that i learned when I was young in the sixties....Then Egypt was a cosmopolitan country with Italian , Greek expats living & with European inspired buildings & districts unlike the image the West propagated of it being a desert with camels running around.....on the other hand all the Gulf countries were exactly this.
When I was memorizing this Hadith I was wondering how in earth this could be since I knew how underdeveloped they were specially when my father visited Kuwait & came to tell us that his host had built a big house but did not use the bathroom facilities bc he was not used to it & prefered to relieve himself outdoors as he used to when he lived in his tent....They went from tents to palaces & from camels to Porches in a decade.
I have lived long enough to see this prophecy come true & i am a witness to it ,with the Burje Khalifa being the tallest building in the world , the Mecca clock being the highest in the world & Saudi Arabia planning to build a skyscraper higher than that of Dubai.
I thank Allah for Islam &
may Allah guide you to the straight path.
You are all the things BUT spiritual 😂😂
this point ur making is kind of stupid im sorry 11:55 emmm there is something called knowledge wich u dnt have apparently, and that social intellegent is the only thing u urself have and u think u got it all 5:05 that smirk say's it all. i think ur looking down on people's intellegent in this chanel thinking we dnt know what ur actually trying to do here ''stay spiritual'' ??? everything u do here is antispiritual.
That was nonsensical about somebody who has been doing dawah for like a decade and has heard every question and met every personality type under the sun being quick and calm answering questions without looking left and right and pondering every single thing😂 what kind of criteria is that to determine truth. Just because athiests are permanently confused doesnt mean everybody else has to be😂
A creator is self-sufficient, independent, so he didn't come from something.
A creation is NOT self-sufficient, NOT independent, so they must come from something.
You are applying what applies to the creation to the creator.
He didn't say other religions are corrupt. You always take things in a negative way .He is comparing other religions which is done by people who study to come to the conclusion why are there many religions in the world and what is common ,why is a specific religion being followed. If you cant chose one religion on the basis of fact then you are definitely a hypocrite. Choosing one religion needs discarding others but on the basis of falsely acclaimed statements in the other religious books so as to come to a conclusion that you have chosen facts and logic over myth and falsehood
رَبِّ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ وَمَا بَيْنَهُمَا ۖ إِنْ كُنْتُمْ مُوقِنِينَ
Lord of the heavens and the earth and that between them, if you would be certain.
Holy Quran
وَمَا خَلَقْنَا السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضَ وَمَا بَيْنَهُمَا لَاعِبِينَ
And We did not create the heavens and earth and that between them in play.
{ وَلَذِكْرُ اللَّهِ أَكْبَرُ ۗ }
Remembering God[Allah] is greater
From whom ?
Thank you very much!
"And they will say, "Praise to Allah, who has fulfilled for us His promise and made us inherit the earth [so] we may settle in Paradise wherever we will. And excellent is the reward of [righteous] workers.""
Az-Zumar 39:74
"..what He brought into existence is an absolute evidence that He exists..." (2:26) and so on we go into the morass of circular reasoning starting from an a priori claim (a non-provable starting point) that God exists, and therefore what we see (patterns, wonders in Nature, in the cosmos) is evidence of that Being....hmmm. Nevertheless, good on you fellows for locating interesting discussions to react to :)
It was predicted in the past that there will a time when people will have little knowlege and lot of information and those people will talk on any topic as experts having not even surface knowlege. These two guys are the perfect example. Try to concentrate on their conversation and then focus on topic in hand and you will be surprise how tangential their points are. I was trying to make sense of their talks and got nothing except headach at the end.
Both guys are making comments before watching the video. It is same as making comments about what is in the book before reading it.
I'm done ever watching y'all again. I thought y'all were sincerely searching for truth, but in reality you guys just project every insecurity of your childhood onto these videos. It's incredible the amount of times y'all indulge in hypothetical not existent matters, instead of listening to the points made. It's so ironic, this channel is probably the most close minded channel on youtube that claims to be open-mind
Literally it’s so ironic. And I bet they’ll see these comments as ‘a bunch of close minded religious people who are frustrated because we don’t subscribe to their ideology’ blabla know-it-all. Uno reverse🗿
Facts 😢
We want more videos of muslim lantern ❤
The universe has a starting point that's why we say that something created it because we can't say there's something that came from nothing. But Allah is the eternal he doesn't have a starting point he is always existing that's why we have the universe. It's a must that there's always something existing and that's what we call god. Or we wouldn't even be exiting today.
What do you mean by universe and how you know it has starting point ?
@@rishabhthakur8773ah here comes the philosopher
@@memekitten5410 what do you mean ? 🤔
@@rishabhthakur8773 Ever heard about the big bang? whatever came after it is called the universe and that was the starting point of the Universe
سُبْحَانَ الَّذِي خَلَقَ الْأَزْوَاجَ كُلَّهَا مِمَّا تُنبِتُ الْأَرْضُ وَمِنْ أَنفُسِهِمْ وَمِمَّا لَا يَعْلَمُونَ
Exalted is He who created all pairs - from what the earth grows and from themselves and from that which they do not know.
Holy Quran
وَالْقُرْآنِ الْحَكِيمِ * إِنَّكَ لَمِنَ الْمُرْسَلِينَ * عَلَىٰ صِرَاطٍ مُّسْتَقِيمٍ
By the wise Qur'an. * Indeed you, [O Muhammad], are from among the messengers, * On a straight path.
I would love to see you guys asking you questions and the points you make to him. it would be an interesting video to watch. please arrange a meeting with him we would love to see it and I think it would be a valuable discussion.
فَإِنَّ اللَّهَ كَانَ بِعِبَادِهِ بَصِيرًا
then indeed Allah has ever been, of His servants, Seeing.
You guys should have a conversation with Muslim lantern, im sure it will be a fruitful conversation. About where did Allah come from? We say Allah is uncreated, something cannot come from nothing, this means there was alwys something, and we say that something that always existed is Allah, you guys should look up ibn sina's proof for a necessary existence, it necessitates that the universe requires a necessary existence to be in existence, now onto your question about the prophesies why are they not about phones etc. The prophesies are specifically about the signs of the day of judgement, it seems as if while being spectical of islam you guys forgot to be spectical about yourself, you should look up the channel "many prophets one message" for more prophesies made about the future by prophet muhammad pbuh
Watching two adult children who they think that they’re intelligent to a degree that makes you wanna scream out of anger, the amount of ignorance is staggering.
I advise you guys to join his live and ask the questions you have. He’s a nice guy who would take his time to answer any questions.
He won't answer any question
25:15 i totally agreeee with what he said in here its either strengthens your faith or changes your mind .
Go debate with him! Do not only talk to each other.Spill everything come to your mouth!
There is no disagreement. All books say God has no image, no pratima, there is nothing like unto Allah etc. Comparative religion helps get to the purest form of the religion for which we should trust the most logical and honest person because if researchers don't do their research honestly, then the results they report are not repeatable. In other words, when in doubt we remember to turn to basics, which is fitra aka submitting to God
Thank you, gentlemen. I may be responding in the wrong comment section, judging by the other comments here. My heart goes out to man identified as "atheist." I hope he finds what he needs and discards what he doesn't need. Remember, gentlemen, if a belief can be proven, then it is not a belief. It is knowledge. And that is fine. Different tools for different tasks. Nobody believes in rocks. And I only believe in the Sun at midnight. On the winter solstice.
Never do you guys respond with logic 🤦♀️
Address the points in the vid 🤦♀️
The one on the right is incredibly unreasonable (does not reason)
He is the Creator he cant be created and the time and place he created everything he isnt bound by them hey look if u want to doubt everything then u will never be certain of anything u will live your life being ignorant is that the way u want to live it
My friend the only religion challenge the people to find any contradiction
At first i think this is about a good reaction instead of "show off" of illiteracy and foolishness.
you guys dont even know how to think properly.
Sorry to say that.
"An atheist walked into a bank and asked for a loan. When asked about collateral, they said, 'Nothing. But trust me, something will come out of it!'"
Regarding which religion is true and which are false, or they are all false because they can't be true at the same time since you can't have two contradicting statements true at the same time.
For example, the statement, "whether the earth is flat or spherical in reality". Only one can be true or both statements are false.
I think the question you must ask yourself first is "Do I really care about the truth or am I don't really care about the truth?" if it was the latter then there is no point in seeking knowledge about anything in the first place.
"Honestly, it’s clear that neither of them understands the topic they’re discussing. All I’ve heard are emotional appeals without any convincing arguments or answers. The person on the right, especially, relied solely on sarcasm and didn’t present a single logical or coherent statement. Their suggestion that 'something can come from nothing' is completely baffling. Really? At this rate, atheism might as well come with its own leap-of-faith handbook!"
React to more Muslim lantern videos like the ones he has with ex Muslims.
❤️Narrated Abu Huraira:
I heard Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) saying, Verily Allah created Mercy. The day He created it, He made it into one hundred parts. He withheld with Him ninety-nine parts, and sent its one part to all His creatures. Had the non-believer known of all the Mercy which is in the Hands of Allah, he would not lose hope of entering Paradise, and had the believer known of all the punishment which is present with Allah, he would not consider himself safe from the Hell-Fire."❤️🇵🇸🤲🏼
The paths to reach the ultimate Truth, are diverse. However, there can only one objective truth. Hence, even two contradicting claims of truth can not exist at the same time.
To those Allah gives no light, They have no light. Al Quran
Yess ❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 Nice discussion
For what you said about where Allah came from he already answered that in one of his videos
He talks too much but has no points. He just argues for nothing important.
In the world people respect knowledge and the people of knowledge as Islam encourage us repeatedly and consistently to seek for knowledge, wisdom and truth also encourage us to read, research, think, analysis our beliefs, heart, and actions and in the same time Allah doesn't left us alone, he sent messengers, books with one message to guide us to fulfill our life in this world and the afterlife. So we have to be humble when we listening to the people who have knowledge, wisdom, education in specific field more than us, then if we doesn't convinced or agree with them we can push them back with our arguments and analysis not just disagree for disagreement that is not how people reach to the truth if you are both guys searches for it.
Please continue to respect Islam.
26:08 you asking about miracles in quran and you already made a reaction on many (not all) of it !
23:25 100% yes. Bring it and we will listen, but will you listen to the response?
Were they even listening 🤣
To those who have ears 👂 let them listen
More reaction on Muslim lantern great reaction.
Eastern Orthodoxy Is The One Truth. Watch Jay Dyer vs Muslim Lantern😂😂☦️💙📿
Logically I can't be wrong believing in islam.
Others will say the same thing about their belief systems. Logic isn't the only game in town, and who says its the highest order. 🤔☝
@@stayspiritual there are so much wrong on other religions unfortunately...
and yes, logic is the basic of our life/survival... if i don't believe in logic, might as well i just cross the road without looking as "my logic" says im a superman and no cars will brake my steel body if they hit me
@@kgdangar2 This 👏🏾
Alhamdulillah ✨🤍
@@stayspiritual Claiming anything is easy but proving it, only islam can. Plus others from other religions don't use logic anyway because they depend their belief on faith only. And iam speaking about logical arguments we can't present contradictory beliefs as one thing that we believe than we say oh it's an argument but logically that doesn't make any sense. I think you should speak with Muslim Lentern to know our religion more. Thank you for being honest with your followers.
Do you guys react to learn or just to somehow make some views?
I invite you to salvation by worshipping ALLAH alone without any partners
That's Islamic Monotheism ( total submission to ALLAH alone)
That's the religion of all the Prophets from Adam to noah to Abraham to Moses to Jesus to Muhammad PBUT all
Thank you for your opinion. Muslims are believe in Tora and Gospel that were given to Moses and Jesus too, of course there can be true prophecies. But it has many contradictions
23:45 this is a process. This is logic. There are steps
He began by asking if he believed the world created itself . Because If the other guy says yes there is no point continuing.
Then went on disqualifying religion because it logic. Even the other guy agreed. Can’t have all the religion true. So you disqualify religions to narrow the answers that can be true.
What can you learn with a false religion ? Arguing with people who’s faith has been corrupted or changed ?
Picking more than one religion literally defeats the purpose of religion. Following god’s message . God will not send 20 different messages at the same time. World will be in chaos.
If your idea is comparing and seeing which is valid you’re going at it the wrong way. Thinking like that, polytheism is still an option. It’s already over
I see two people in the debate mode
All your questions have already been answered in his other videos. If you really want the answers, just check them out. Or if you’re just asking without expecting answers, say it casually.🙌
They both have wacthed a lot of islamic content and yet, just a little that relate in their comments, its like their not clever enough, sorry to say
the real couple of ignorance 😂
47:17 thats very trueee
You sure he didn’t prophesied the phone? 👀
Truth is simple, even a child can understand it, but you insist on making it difficult psychoanalyzing everything
fair enough
Embarrassing, Muslim Lantern is way out of your league 😂😂
WHY DON’T YALL DEBATE OR GIVE HIM A CALL THE MUSLIM LANTERN AND LET’S SEE IF YALL CAN GET IT RIGHT OR GET AWAY WITH ALL THIS CRAP YALL TALKING ABOUT SUBHANNALLAAH
whenever I see these two I only see pride and ego