4:13 ~ 4:17 This was particularly really fascinating. It's a regular Roy finisher to UAir -> FSmash, especially on fast-fallers, but here, the target's height was still too big for a sweetspot FSmash, so you lowered him down (while raising further his %) with another UAir for a guaranteed, even more powerful FSmash. EDIT: Not only this, but this way you could FSmash him towards the side of the stage you guys were closer to, further guaranteeing the KO, because with just the first UAir, even if you could FSmash with its sweetspot and at lower %, you'd be forced to use it to send him towards the farther end of the stage, which would have been to the left. Truly a genius moment. Left alone how that may trick his DI etc.. Thank you Sethlon for your overall really awesome video compilation. You did a phenomenal job in every area needed.
i'm here to leave a comment that i should haved leave a long time ago but i never haved the time to do it. very well done Sethlon you are a Master that has passed the torch or more like the Wet Noodle to others one of my favorites combos video that exist in all Melee History and *BURN* one of the sickest TAG i ever see. PS: the ending was truly a joy to see 5:10 Roy pretending to be Marth (laughs)
Devils never cry. You have fucking EXCELLENT taste, sir. Anyways, awesome video. You're definitely my favorite player to watch (especially in PM, holy moly!).
Yessir. I dabble in a lot of different traditional fighters, and Guilty Gear is what started that for me, so P4A is right up my alley haha. Yu even has my Roy color (although its a pretty ugly variation lol).
I always liked Melee Roy. He has an amazing and cool moveset, and he doesn't feel as Marth in that way. I'd wish I could master him as you do, Sethlon. I kinda like Sm4sh Roy, but his moveset has changed so much.
RedHairdo Untippered: Roy's dtilt. Tippered: Marth's dtilt. While we are at it, let's just fuse Marth's blade with the hilt of Roy's sword and give it to Fox :P In all honesty, giving Marth's untippered forms the strength of Roy's sweetspots would probably make him the best character in the game by a considerable margin.
Hey, I've been watching a lot of your PM videos recently, you're a great player! I watched you play Melee and learned from you and when I left Melee for PM and found out you also play PM I began to watch. I think you have improved since this video and for sure should do a PM Montage. Great video! Keep it up. Roy's or boy! =D
Sethlon Alright. Just a question, correct me if I'm wrong, but you used to play Marth, or at least did for a short period of time. What made you switch to Roy/Switch back to Roy? I really like Roy in PM but Marth is also great and I am debating which one to main.
Eptic0227 Since he hasn't replied, I'll try to chime in. He told me last year (2013 for future ref.) that he had switched to Marth earlier in the year I think (Marth2good), but he ended up dropping Melee altogether once Roy was released for PM in Decemeber. As for Roy/Marth: Flip a coin, or main both. :P
ThisIsWEB Alright. I played with some friends and my Roy does better than Marth against most people, except for Fox/Falco and other fast falling, easy to predict recovery characters. It's easy to get them off the stage and then ledge guard them to death with Marth. I guess I'll use both, for different match-ups, but mainly Roy.
Sounds like a solid plan. :D Would recommend looking over matchups for both in your spare time, for the sake of playing sets and get counterpicked. Fire Emblem Pride
Didn't realize how great of a set-up move Roy's D-tilt is. Roy also seems to have an above-average crouch cancel going on. Just goes to show that you learn something every day.
Smash bros, Fire Emblem, and Devil May Cry are all in my top 5 favorite franchises. Additionally, I use Roy and Marth in Melee and Project M. This is just... all kinds of appealing!
JVlunby Roy's UpSmash has actually the strongest _spike_ (as opposed to meteor) in the entire game, and it also ignores %. lol Neat thing, kinda like his UpB vs. light characters for 0% KOs etc.. Too bad that's still just not enough to make him yet a viable character for Major Tournaments for getting 1st place. At least, not from what we know as of now, that is... Btw, if you were referring to the DAir at the end, that's a meteor, not a spike. :p
Lolilien1 "Up Smash - The first strike of Roy's Up Smash can Meteor Smash opponents if it hits with the sweetspot." ~List of meteor smashes on the smash wiki. It even specifies the difference between meteor and spike. Plus I've seen it done. It might as well be a spike though. You'll never be ready to cancel it.
Hey sethlon can I tell you something? You are my favorite competitive smash player since Roy is my favorite character in smash and you have some awesome skill,keep up the good work.#roysourboy
Looking at the opening I thought that this would've been one of the worst combo videos I have ever seen. Needless to say, I'm glad I continued to watch!
ive recently started playing melee again, forgot how much fun it was and roy is my main, after seeing this i cant wait to play in tournaments, i will dispense some roy justice
Yo, Sethlon I was wondering I really like Roy, and the way you play him is incredible. But I'm pretty new to the competitive Smash scene, I was wondering for Melee and PM what do you think I should be practicing first and or more for playing Roy?
Dyson Movement. Melee and PM are very movement heavy, and it takes a long time to get that movement ingrained in your muscle memory. Recommend just moving around with wavedashes / l-cancels / etc, 10 minutes a day.
Sethlon Sweet, I've been doing that more than just 10 minutes though lol, another question is perfect wavelanding important for Roy, or should I just use regular diagonal wavelands and such? Also thanks for replying I assumed learning combos and tech chasing was more important for some reason, now that I look at your video again, you're pretty slippery and I'm assuming that makes it easier to chase and combo and stuff.
@Ripple, totes @Pyro - no, i want to first. @sethlon - my inspiration as usual. amazing stuff. I will now proceed to watch this a million times. odin out
Nahh, it's not actually cancelling jump squat with counter. Jumping OoS into counter like this goes through the full jump squat frames, but counter freezes Roy's vertical momentum before he actually leaves the ground afterwards. So it's a relatively slow shield option, with all the risk that comes with throwing out counter, but it can be useful situationally.
Also he has more and better kill moves. Down smash, forward tilt, back air and down air can all kill consistently rather than being super situational and risky to use.
oh hey Sethlon lol thanks to a recent tourney in Arkansas, it seems you have ran across one of my friends, Shogun lol i think it was in Texarkana actually lol I was so mad that I couldnt make it thanks to Walmart and other stuff
Depends on what you mean by "ranked". Powerranked within your city / region? Sure, if the Roy is super good and the area isn't full of Puffs / ICs. PG top 100 rank on the other hand? Not really. The character is pretty bad in Melee's advanced meta
i had meant to say recorded, now put it in the sentence, and figure it out. Also, you going to yhat after school program that the woman was telling us about?
Oy! Sethlon! You liking the new SSB4 Roy? Cause i am! And also, do you think they should bring his Usmash and Double-Edge Dance they're meteor effect back?
BURN is the sickest Melee tag ever.
Hey sethlon I'm a Roy main and wanted to thank you for showing me what a great character he is i love to watch you play and your a very skilled Roy.
I bet he can beat any fox.
This almost made me want to main him.
Almost, that was a close one.
NotAnAdmin LOL
That doesn't make sense...
becuz roy is actually terrible
Prease Undarstand , Also Watches Etika No
Roy is one of the top 9 worst characters in Melee
I never even thought that Roy could be Dante and Marth is Virgil.
IsaacG Then who is Ike?!? Who within the Inferno, will fight for his friends? :'(
Ike is Nero lol
* Vergil
Outset I thought it was "Virgil" since that was how it was spelled in Dante's Inferno. Go away with your grammar shenanigans
I’m dedicated to carrying on the legacy this piece of cinematic history brought to the world.
4:13 ~ 4:17
This was particularly really fascinating. It's a regular Roy finisher to UAir -> FSmash, especially on fast-fallers, but here, the target's height was still too big for a sweetspot FSmash, so you lowered him down (while raising further his %) with another UAir for a guaranteed, even more powerful FSmash.
EDIT: Not only this, but this way you could FSmash him towards the side of the stage you guys were closer to, further guaranteeing the KO, because with just the first UAir, even if you could FSmash with its sweetspot and at lower %, you'd be forced to use it to send him towards the farther end of the stage, which would have been to the left.
Truly a genius moment. Left alone how that may trick his DI etc..
Thank you Sethlon for your overall really awesome video compilation. You did a phenomenal job in every area needed.
i'm here to leave a comment that i should haved leave a long time ago but i never haved the time to do it.
very well done Sethlon you are a Master that has passed the torch or more like the Wet Noodle to others
one of my favorites combos video that exist in all Melee History
and *BURN* one of the sickest TAG i ever see.
PS: the ending was truly a joy to see 5:10 Roy pretending to be Marth (laughs)
been following you for YEARS now, really inspire me, favorite player of all time. Glad to see your "final form" in pm. great stuff
The way you finished the 4:52 combo was beautiful. Should DEFINITELY do one for PM eventually
I plan to eventually do one for PM. Probably gonna be a while though.
As a Roy main, I can appreciate all the blood, sweat, and tears that must have gone into this; great job Sethlon.
3.5 coming soon! Can't wait to see arguably the PM player with the most raw talent kick some booty after 3.5 fixes the unfair things.
pm succckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkks
Kirby Lawlis And you swallow
nice meme
Thanks
Kirby Lawlis #ekt
This and the trailer have kept my Roy dream alive all these years. Keep up the good work man
fav roy combo vid.
Came for the combos. Stayed for the music. Literally. Good job! :)
Melee roy combos and DMC3 music? I might just be in heaven
Its actually just the second half of Devils Never Cry from the DMC3 OST.
Devils never cry. You have fucking EXCELLENT taste, sir. Anyways, awesome video. You're definitely my favorite player to watch (especially in PM, holy moly!).
That final combo was way too sick that down air on Roy is incredible very good job !
Yessir. I dabble in a lot of different traditional fighters, and Guilty Gear is what started that for me, so P4A is right up my alley haha. Yu even has my Roy color (although its a pretty ugly variation lol).
Oh, man. My favorite smasher has been a Guilty Gear player this whole time? Who did you main?
That was WONDERFUL! Watching these people work so hard to make these characters look playable just makes me feel good! ^^
I always liked Melee Roy. He has an amazing and cool moveset, and he doesn't feel as Marth in that way. I'd wish I could master him as you do, Sethlon. I kinda like Sm4sh Roy, but his moveset has changed so much.
I feel ya. Even though smash 4 Roy looks different than Marth with most of his moves, his play style is so much more of a clone than melee Roy.
PM roy is the best roy, very faithful to his melee playstyle but his aerials aren't trash, and some slight changes to further set him apart from marth
if Marth had Roy's down tilt he would be the best character in the game.
Marth's down tilt is insanely good as well I don't agree
narwhalsgomeow Not as good as Roy's.
Both DTilts have their applications. So I both agree and disagree.
RedHairdo Untippered: Roy's dtilt.
Tippered: Marth's dtilt.
While we are at it, let's just fuse Marth's blade with the hilt of Roy's sword and give it to Fox :P
In all honesty, giving Marth's untippered forms the strength of Roy's sweetspots would probably make him the best character in the game by a considerable margin.
+NinjaLobsterStudios Marth's d-tilt is the only reason he doesn't get dominated in several matchups.
The shift in the song around 3:22 was randomly on my mind a few days, and it became a bit of an earworm since then... :O
Man, watching this improved my Roy game by a factor of 5. This was awesome!
Pivot F-smash shall wreck for all eternity.
Today, I used Roy's meteor dair in a combo. It was undoubtably one of the best feelings in the world.
Hey, I've been watching a lot of your PM videos recently, you're a great player! I watched you play Melee and learned from you and when I left Melee for PM and found out you also play PM I began to watch. I think you have improved since this video and for sure should do a PM Montage. Great video! Keep it up. Roy's or boy! =D
Thanks! I definitely want to put together a PM Roy combo video...but the time is not yet right.
Sethlon Alright. Just a question, correct me if I'm wrong, but you used to play Marth, or at least did for a short period of time. What made you switch to Roy/Switch back to Roy? I really like Roy in PM but Marth is also great and I am debating which one to main.
Eptic0227
Since he hasn't replied, I'll try to chime in. He told me last year (2013 for future ref.) that he had switched to Marth earlier in the year I think (Marth2good), but he ended up dropping Melee altogether once Roy was released for PM in Decemeber.
As for Roy/Marth: Flip a coin, or main both. :P
ThisIsWEB Alright. I played with some friends and my Roy does better than Marth against most people, except for Fox/Falco and other fast falling, easy to predict recovery characters. It's easy to get them off the stage and then ledge guard them to death with Marth. I guess I'll use both, for different match-ups, but mainly Roy.
Sounds like a solid plan. :D
Would recommend looking over matchups for both in your spare time, for the sake of playing sets and get counterpicked.
Fire Emblem Pride
Can't get any better for a Roy combo video. Great job.
Didn't realize how great of a set-up move Roy's D-tilt is. Roy also seems to have an above-average crouch cancel going on. Just goes to show that you learn something every day.
Smash bros, Fire Emblem, and Devil May Cry are all in my top 5 favorite franchises. Additionally, I use Roy and Marth in Melee and Project M. This is just... all kinds of appealing!
Quality vid, man. Great job on making Roy look like a true top tier.
HE GOT A SPIKE
JVlunby Roy's UpSmash has actually the strongest _spike_ (as opposed to meteor) in the entire game, and it also ignores %. lol Neat thing, kinda like his UpB vs. light characters for 0% KOs etc..
Too bad that's still just not enough to make him yet a viable character for Major Tournaments for getting 1st place. At least, not from what we know as of now, that is...
Btw, if you were referring to the DAir at the end, that's a meteor, not a spike. :p
pretty sure captain falcon's small hitbox dair is the strongest spike
RedHairdo Roy's up smash is a meteor. I've seen a computer cancel it.
Faltrazz No it's a spike
Lolilien1 "Up Smash - The first strike of Roy's Up Smash can Meteor Smash opponents if it hits with the sweetspot." ~List of meteor smashes on the smash wiki. It even specifies the difference between meteor and spike. Plus I've seen it done. It might as well be a spike though. You'll never be ready to cancel it.
Hey sethlon can I tell you something? You are my favorite competitive smash player since Roy is my favorite character in smash and you have some awesome skill,keep up the good work.#roysourboy
passed the torch to zain so to say
i really appreciate your move choice and decision making. shows that you've truly put a lot of time and work into your character
thumbs up :)
nice. i liked where you turned falco's up+b purple, thought that was pretty cool. dug the slow fade transitions too. congrats on your video!
Getting d-airs as Roy in Melee is the most satisfying thing in the game imo
Probably the hardest too. Almost like starting up a multi-shine.
The sickest Roy player I've seen in my entire life.
And the vid is from 2012..
Anybody else enjoyed Dante's Theme music?
Dude how you do pivots is amazing, like you always get them when you want to 100% of the time. I especially liked the pivot f smash at 2:44.
Looking at the opening I thought that this would've been one of the worst combo videos I have ever seen. Needless to say, I'm glad I continued to watch!
Gives me chills every time
Featuring Dante from the devil may cry series
ive recently started playing melee again, forgot how much fun it was and roy is my main, after seeing this i cant wait to play in tournaments, i will dispense some roy justice
lol I love how the intro and credits combined are almost longer than the main part of the video
2:50 "the l-canceeeEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLL??"
really nice combo vid, especially when used mostly on top tiers.
its good to see that people still use Roy...
Aw shit, Princess Amagi is an amazing song. Kudos on your taste, dawg.
Yo, Sethlon I was wondering I really like Roy, and the way you play him is incredible. But I'm pretty new to the competitive Smash scene, I was wondering for Melee and PM what do you think I should be practicing first and or more for playing Roy?
Dyson Movement. Melee and PM are very movement heavy, and it takes a long time to get that movement ingrained in your muscle memory. Recommend just moving around with wavedashes / l-cancels / etc, 10 minutes a day.
Sethlon Sweet, I've been doing that more than just 10 minutes though lol, another question is perfect wavelanding important for Roy, or should I just use regular diagonal wavelands and such?
Also thanks for replying I assumed learning combos and tech chasing was more important for some reason, now that I look at your video again, you're pretty slippery and I'm assuming that makes it easier to chase and combo and stuff.
As a Roy player, I must say, THIS WAS BEAUTIFUL.
I'm not a Roy player but this was some sick combos. Nicely done.
BUT YOU WILL NEVER BECOME A MAN
I go Red Roy... It's hard as balls
aw man this is great the first amazing roy combo video good job/\.
Best combo video since All Wessed Up.
Roy mains. We must pay our respects to our lord and savior. The one we refer to as.
Sethlon
STEAL A SOUL FOR A SECOND CHANCE
Awesome work, Sethlon! Keep t3h ph1r3 in your heart!
That was awesome. Great stuff Sethlon.
coincidentally I played roy for like 2 hours last night. really makes me appreciate how hard this stuff is hahaha
Thank God there is no video footage of me getting styled on from that one time we played together for hours.
And they say Roy has no combo ability...
He actually has very few combos. So yeah.
Down tilt?
+Andrew Ricklefs Only that move.
No. His aerials can combo at mid-high percents, due to his extremely good shffl. And he can chaingrab, can he not?
Andrew Ricklefs His Sourspot sucks for comboing and he can do something like Fair > Fair at some percentages.
And yeah, he can chaingrab.
4:40 I swear it just said "We want the laundry"
What an excellent combo video! Respect!
good to see new roy videos.
@Ripple, totes
@Pyro - no, i want to first.
@sethlon - my inspiration as usual. amazing stuff.
I will now proceed to watch this a million times.
odin out
So inspirational O.O
What song is that playing in credits
NiCe! Video i use roy as my main in melee and i had been using that combo for a long time :)
Some excellent combos here! A few could have afforded to have been left out, but entertaining nonetheless.
Amazing. Simply amazing!
ROY'S OUR BOY
2019 gang, where yall at?
great vid Sethlon!!
ILL MAKE YOU PROUD ONE DAY SETHLON
2:54 Did... Did you just cancel your jumpsquat WITH YOUR COUNTER!?
How has nobody else thought of this yet? You're my role model next to Lunchables.
Nahh, it's not actually cancelling jump squat with counter. Jumping OoS into counter like this goes through the full jump squat frames, but counter freezes Roy's vertical momentum before he actually leaves the ground afterwards. So it's a relatively slow shield option, with all the risk that comes with throwing out counter, but it can be useful situationally.
Makes you wonder what was wrong with Roy in Melee in the first place. In Project M they didn't make that many changes.
More stun and damage from tippers and less lag on everything.
I see...
Also he has more and better kill moves. Down smash, forward tilt, back air and down air can all kill consistently rather than being super situational and risky to use.
watch the trailer for this combo video to see what's wrong with roy in melee. it's not pretty lol
+Faltrazz not tips. roy has most damage at his hilt. unless you meant sourspotted moves to combo with.
Can you do something like this for Roy in project m?
very nice job sethlon!
Too good. So now will the next 7 years be dedicated to making a PM Ike video? hah
only I will know how fraudulent these combos are :D. Nice combo video Sethlon.
-Ripple
That was so cool
Download link please. There may never be another Roy video as good as this one.
Lol, that project is second in line now ;)
duuuuude what is the name of this song, I WANT IT!!!! and awesome combos man, im a roy fan as well
Thanks! Song names are in the credits ;)
oh hey Sethlon lol thanks to a recent tourney in Arkansas, it seems you have ran across one of my friends, Shogun lol i think it was in Texarkana actually lol I was so mad that I couldnt make it thanks to Walmart and other stuff
Who is here in 2021
Does anyone recognize this song from the youtube series Dead Fantasy. I love the music selection. Good Shit!
My fav player
@sethlon do you think a roy player has potential to become a ranked player
Depends on what you mean by "ranked". Powerranked within your city / region? Sure, if the Roy is super good and the area isn't full of Puffs / ICs. PG top 100 rank on the other hand? Not really. The character is pretty bad in Melee's advanced meta
This aged well, Zain has been eating lately.
Haha, sure thing. Download link is in the description.
is the BGM from Devil May Cry,if anyone you know what DMC is and name of song,respond me
Y u no check credits
Devils Never Cry from the DMC3 OST
Ok bud,and thx for a combo for smash 4 Roy (F-Throw Side B)
DMC music hell yeah
heh dude i saw you in the conments of some roy video!
im sorry, but the best part of this vid is the music alone. its just that good
Really jonathan, SSF2! IN BLACK AND WHITE!
Mohammed Mia nah, man this isnt ssf2, watch the whole vid, this is real smash
Mohammed Mia super smash bros melee, to be exact
So you recotded this from your game cube, and if you did, then get a life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
i had meant to say recorded, now put it in the sentence, and figure it out. Also, you going to yhat after school program that the woman was telling us about?
OH MAN.
SETHLON
YESSS
Roys Fsmash is hella powerful .
Oy! Sethlon! You liking the new SSB4 Roy? Cause i am! And also, do you think they should bring his Usmash and Double-Edge Dance they're meteor effect back?
Devil May Cry music great for this
4 years and this is still my favorite combo video