Plot twist: They didn't have a falling out, he didn't lose his rat....he lost his hair, he went bald and had no good way of translating rat-to-human interaction anymore
@Reubentheimitator6572 what's funny-sad is that every attempt to regrow his hair could be viewed as vanity, while compiling on his a anxiety with every failed attempt. An outside "he's all about looks," yet stalwart "at least he's not trying to hide it with a toupee," while the truth is his life is ruined without a real head of hair
So basically Remy is maybe the current member of the chef rats bloodline, probably on his mother's side since his dad doesn't have it and she isn't in the movie, and due to Gusteau's hair loss Remy's ancestors were basically out of the job and so had to return to the old ways of rat life after his death because there was no one left to care for them or about them?
Just for the first point. As a scientist, I can state, that when comparing DNA fragments, as in a parentage test; that if a sample was bad and I had to rerun a test. I’d have to rerun it with all samples at the same time. Comparing samples from different runs is possible, but not good, specially for legal purposes. So yes, one bad sample = need both samples again.
Yes this. I think they use Gel electrophoresis (which I had understood to be the main method most of these tests are performed) the samples have to be exposed to the same variables (gel/current/electophoreses machine/solvent) to ensure the bands would line up at the same spots. Running on a different set up would open it for error and potentially make the test unreliable. However... Its been a while since I have done this and there may be newer methods.
"I have to send them back." Both samples. And then is followed by, "It came back rodent." Singular sample cane back as rodent. And then let me nerd out on how human labs wouldn't run this way.
Even then, send them back doesn't necessarily imply both came up rodent hair. It means one of them did so they needed to retest both samples. Even then it could mean the line was written with more than one hair being sent to the lab in the first place. A single hair is probably unlikely.
That's not a bad take. Even our chef inherited his dad's lack of ability to cook. By some cosmic coincidence, the great great grandson of the rat meets up with the son of Gusteau, and the universe gets a repeat performance of man's ability used with/by animal instincts and uncommon intellect to create food good enough to melt the heart of a cold food critic. Good enough to start an entire "chef-boy-r-dee" style food operation. A second movie with the old cliche, a difference of opinion (rat wants to change an old family recipe and dude just stops like "No!") causes a rift between the two, just to learn their father (or great great grandfather) did the exact same thing, split up for the exact same reason, but Remmy's forefather never left; Do the whole montage where they retreated into the walls, grew old watching Gusteau struggle in secret (those terrible leftover recipes) while the old rat tried to help covertly (the recipes that made it in to the cookbook, like the Ratatouille recipe). Even end the movie with a twist, them learning to compromise, changing the recipe, tasting it as it fades to black and you hear *"PBBBBBBBLT- **_UGH!_* .....Ok....maybe we _don't_ change the recipe.....at least, not with _that"_ - tiny squeaked - "mm-hmm!" * spit *
Hm and if these 2 theories are both valid, they pose an interesting thought: Mabel (the old lady) was the one that in part might have initially launched Gusteau to success (whether she knew about the rats or not) so Gusteau being a fraud might explain why Ego got the gift of a fine palet/love of food (since he was MABLE'S son) while Linguini did NOT (Renata's son, who couldn't cook). Heck, the rat ancestors of Gusteau's "Little Chefs" may have first found out their aptitude for cooking because they watched Mabel cooking and then secretly started experimenting (LIKE REMY DID) until Gusteau discovered them in action. Also, Linguini's lineage got me thinking about his Mom: I get Renata wasn't Gusteau's only wife and they likely had a strained relationship (especially if Linguini never learned who his father was). However, surely Renata knew some recipes so the idea that she never taught Linguini anything about cooking seems far-fetched (unless, of course, she associated cooking with her ex and so did everything to avoid it)?
He has to send "them" back because the samples get destroyed when they test them so to ensure a proper test they have to have both samples tested again to ensure accuracy.
But the, “it” was never specified between which one was contaminated with rodent hair. At the very least, it leaves this theory open ended to my understanding.
@dravendfr "It" would specify one of them, and we only know of one that, for a fact, had a rat in his hair. It's a reach saying that it's open ended when it is actually pretty cut dry here. You'd have to ignore certain details to even entertain the theory, so it's a bust/crack theory at best.
exactly, you still send multiple samples in for a test; you send "them" (samples) to the lab. "It" would be grammatically incorrect, especially in french.
I love the theory but gusteau had a cooking show where he himself is narrating how he is preparing each dish. He knew what he was doing without a rat. I also believe the theory that the house remy learned to cook in is the critic’s mother’s. You see it in the flashback. His mother’s recipe was gusteau’s recipe.
Tbh that can be easily handwaved: Gusteau could just remember how pre-existing dishes are made-- it is a cooking show, scripting is a thing, and you probably learn at least a bit after being controlled by chef rats for so long. It would still make sense after he lost the chef rats, like his main problem then is that he can't come up with new dishes as a 5-star chef- not from a normal dude who kinda sorta learn how to cook from rats controlling him for decades.
@XFGHL78Eso I thought of that but also thought that anything I do everyday for 3 years becomes muscle memory, at least for me. He shouldn’t just kinda know how to cook, he has enough knowledge to tweak the recipes he’s used to and introduce something new without human or rodent help unless depression and pressure changed his taste like a few theories suggest.
@XFGHL78E The problem here is that the burden of proof is on the theory, not the other way around. Now if there was full on confirmation that the theory is true, then handwaving is fair because it's a plot hole that can be easily filled, HOWEVER, with the theory bringing up the idea that Gusteau was a fraud, we can't just handwave the counterpoint, you'd need something more substantial. Handwaving counterpoints is poor form in theorizing, a better approach would be to readjust the idea such that it acknowledges that Gusteau likely wasn't a complete fraud, unlike his son, even if his greatest achievements weren't really his own, something that makes a lot of sense when you consider how he'd need at least some skill in cooking to have kept up the game for as long as he did, unlike Linguini who had no idea how to make the act seem natural and nearly exposed himself multiple times before telling the truth.
My theory is that Gusteau wasn't as bad as a cook as his son. Gusteau could cook, he could follow a recipe and do all the mechanical aspects required during prep. He just couldn't create anything new, perhaps he had a bad sense of taste or smell. But either way he was a run of the mill chef who could just follow instructions. If that was true his rats wouldn't even have to be as impressive as Remy either. All he would have to do is feed a selection of rats he deemed to have good taste, record what they like and didn't and tweak his recipes that way. Even in his dark days, there didn't seem to be rumors of him not knowing how to handle a knife or use the stove. Just that he had really bad tasting food combinations. As for what happened, best guess some thing killed or scared the rat colony away. Possibly Skinner did it thinking they were just an infestation of the restaurant, something no 5 star place would allow.
Honestly the thing with the recipe is how little context we have about it, he could've made it as a joke, he gives it to an employee, employee either realizes it's terrible or not, if the employee cooks it, they eat it, they realize it tastes bad, funny
Consider the following.... Gusteau didn't have hair right under his hat. He was balding. So how was he controlled by a rat? Why is there hair on his hat at all?
Sometimes the simplest answer is the mostly likely There was no rat. Gusteau was balding but wasn't completely bald, so there was still his own hair to get on the hat.
He was balding, but early in his career he would have had hair. The rats piloting him would have lost the ability to cook using Gusteau's hands when the balding advanced too much, and that's when Gusteau lost the ability to cook
the first point kind of falls apart a bit when at 2:20 the lawyer asks for DNA samples plural, then the sending "them" back could indicate the samples from Linguini and not Gusteau.
Yeah, Just because word introduces a plural doesn't mean that the the plural refers to samples from both subjects. It could simply have referred to multiple samples from the same person.
@Vercalos And even if they send Gusteau's sample back, that's completely valid as rodent dna showing up in Linguine's test makes the lawyer question if there was an error in testing, which would invalidate both samples and require retesting.
🧑🍳🐀I love this theory, but I have something to potentially add- surely if Remy had ancestors that cooked for humans, someone in their lineage would have told their rat descendants, right? And yet all we hear from Remy's Dad is that "humans want us dead and can't be trusted" AND "that the idea of a rat cooking is ridiculous". So, what if the rat didn't just die of old age but was killed by someone who was well meaning but didn't know about the rat cooking? It could be anyone- Ego's Mom, Skinner, or a member of the staff really who discovered the rat late at night when Gusteau & everyone else was gone. The "Little Chef" rat would find the cheese on the trap/"poison" mistaken for food (especially a rat that trusted what they were being fed & loved to experiment) and then die because of it. When the other rats involved (especially the mate of the "Little Chef" rat) discovered that humans had caused the death of the "Little Chef Rat", it could have been seen as such a huge betrayal that they would go out of their way to make sure something like that would never happen again by teaching their offspring how dangerous humans are, hence what we see in the move. This idea becomes especially intriguing once you remember Remi saved his entire colony because he could smell the poison they were going to try to eat. 🤷♀Maybe this is way overthinking things but to me it's an interesting thought.
Now what if that trait of enhanced smell… was inherited… Think about it… where’s the mom in the equation… Why do you think D’Jango is so concerned about getting close to humans… IT’S BECAUSE REMY’S MOM WAS THE ORIGINAL LITTLE CHEF! IT’S WHY THEY WERE SO CLOSE TO PARIS WITHOUT REMY KNOWING!
@infinityheart_tm9270 That is an interesting theory! However, while I do think Remy's dad losing Remy's mom to humans is probably correct, the way he initially ignores/brushes off Remy's cooking talent/sensitivity to food instead of angrily blowing up with a "You can never cook because that's what happened to your Mom", etc makes me think that Gusteau's last little chef was farther back in Remy's lineage.
I thought that it was more along the lines of the Rats just taste tested the food for Gusteau. They used their sensitive smell to find good food vs bad. Gusteau wasn't as bad as a cook as his son, and thus could pull off the cooking on his own. He just needed a recipe to follow. This would make the fact no one noticed rats cooking before more possible, they weren't cooks. Just sort of pampered pets used to test new idea's.
And that would mean he actually died of heartbreak, because I do actually believe that in this theory, Gusto and the rats Were Friends. If he were just using them, I don't think he would be insistent that anyone could cook. And I, too, would die of heartbreak if one of my best friends was killed and his family, who would also be my friends, blamed me and hated me forever
You missed a key point that actually makes your first point stronger. They never sent in Linguini's hair. They took his DNA off the wine glass. Edit: I rechecked, he didn't bag up the wine glass on screen like I thought. My bad.
There's no indication of that happening in the film. We don't actually see what he gets from Linguini to give as a DNA sample. It was a point I was aware of but skipped over specifically because it's not presented in the film. It's implied he sent hair in from both.
@lnlyby_yt why should he be ashamed of making a mistake? You'd delete it like a coward cos you care what strangers on the internet think? 😂 Must suck living life like that.
Yea you can absolutely just throw random crap together, praying it works, there's also just the idea he could've just been testing it, sometimes something that sounds awful is actually really good...and other times it's just awful, but you never know till someone tries
Yeah. Plus who gets everything perfect first go? It's a gigantic stretch to believe a world class chef isn't going to experiment with ingredients that make no sense; that's EXACTLY what a world class chef would do. Experiment. What they wouldn't do is serve up the failures unless they had to. They would experiment and keep the failures to themself
"Them" could have referred to more than one of linguini's hairs---as it's usually best to have more than one sample to use. It could have just been a coincidence that both (from linguini) were just rat hairs. It could have also just been a simple error on the voice actor's part. This makes more sense since in the context of the sentence--he was referring to linguini's samples (the samples the little man gave him.) He was not referring to the one sample from Gusteau that he PERSONALLY collected.
There's something so crazy about this comment, it just might be cannon! I love this comment! Gusto having reincarnated as Remy to continue doing what he loved with guidance from a ghost of the memory of his past is just a cool theory!
3:18 That could be explained by the two samples coming into contact with each other so that one contaminated the other with certain bits of rodent DNA (maybe not enough to override human DNA though). I greatly appreciated the highlighting of scenes from the movie that usually don't get paid much attention to & this theory is really even more intriguing when it is paired with his other theory about the old Woman with the rats in her ceiling being one of Gusteau's wives. Great video!
@LungBusted420 MAybe as a reminder to not try too crazy things. As to why he tried it in the first place. He might have felt losing his touch, or not being able to come up with new great recipes. That might have made him desperate to reignite things. And if he could make a great or even just good dish with those ingredients, it would be an impressive feat showing he's back on.
It's not something insane. When you get an idea in your head something that you wanna always do is try try again until you think you can make it work. That determination of the possibility in that maybe in the future you can make it work or someone could.
It is not plural for both samples, it is THEM as a set of hairs. 1 Gusto hair, and then a few hairs from the kid. Remember your own evidence, he grabbed a SINGLE hair from Gusteau's hat, not multiple. Your claim to have any standing would require that Gusteau be a rat, and then the DNA sample would have never come back a match, and always come back as a rat.
As fun as this theory is, I feel it's a change of linguistics for part one that's done to actually attempt the opposite of what you described in the them vs it issue. The lawyer was, in theory, in possession of both samples, and thus he is in charge of sending either or or both. "It" implies the samples as a unit. "I had to send it back to the lab" implies that the unit of samples he has is both, came back as rodent. That rodent was relevant to both samples. "Them" distinguishes that there is more than two samples in the unit, implying that one or more samples could be contaminated. It's a very specific linguistic change to show that the contamination was not unit wide, but simply within the unit in some capacity.
I watched this entire video because I was genuinely curious, but by the end I was honestly left even more confused and baffled. I’m not really a fan of videos like this that try to paint a completely different story than what the film itself seemed to intend. I get what you’re saying, but a lot of the points didn’t feel very valid to me. It came across more like digging into a very thin theory rather than presenting a reasonable or eye-opening twist. The explanation also felt pretty scattered and could’ve been delivered much faster and more clearly. I do appreciate what you were trying to do and I understand the idea behind it, but it just didn’t pay off for me the way I was hoping. In the end, it felt more like a random fan theory than something truly concrete. I still subscribed to you because I thought it was interesting.
Yeah very thin fs. Knowing how a DNA test works you need 2 samples to compare against each time regardless. So it helps breakdown any standing. I'm less interested or inclined to watch through knowing, as he claimed, it all hinges on that one word.
It could also explain why Remy's dad was particularly adament about Remy not interacting with humans, seems like the end result of family history distorted through retelling.
I mean if I was chased out of my old home, and my family history was supposed to be a royal lineage of Rats that have a talent for cooking... Yeah I'd feel betrayed, and would not want my son to partake in that. (Which makes the story a lot more mature than just "Parents being against their kids for wanting to live out their dreams!" Because sometimes dreams, or in this case, Lineages can be crushed... Very easily!)
4:18, while I don't disagree it's the most controlled filming environment, but if you think all animation is flawless because it's drawn frame by frame, I implore you to watch a few episodes of like SpongeBob super closely. Floating bags, inconsistent coloring or clothing, literally flashing different colors for certain areas a frame or two, if it's small enough and only played at 24fps, it's not always caught between the artists editors or anyone until one or two in every million viewers catch it and show everyone else
Well, I can see you dig too much effort into Part 2 - The crime scene, and you explained it really carefully and it make sense, thanks. But as a coder and as an engineer, I also do alot of experiments back in the day, good result, bad result, good code, bad structure,... everything was everywhere, but without it I wasn't able to move up. Those were life lessons, and I saved all my result in my PC so when I have time, I could visit back at any time to re-live the moment. When I see Gusteau save the old failure experimental recipe, I immediately connected. The purpose of the big failure is: This is stup*d, remember that shjt and never make the same mistake again. It couldn't be on purpose, the recipe was so long ago even Colette doesn't even know, so it has really high change to be just an experiment combining flavor, like "what if I can make 2 bad combination and turn it good, idk, let's try". I would. Well, of all, I like your conspiracy lmao, some people might even think it make sense lol
An alternate theory to Gusteau's decline rather than the rats dying out: * Remmy controls Linguini by pulling his hair. * Gusteau went bald * Once bald, he could no longer be puppeted.
What if the reason Skinner jumps so hard and fast on "The RAT is the chef!" is because he had seen it all before -and had a hand in removing the "little Chefs" colony and killing the last one...
It falls flat thanks to the scene where Skinner was shocked to find out that the rat is the cook. If he had seen it before, he wouldn't have made such a reaction.
Personally I think him getting rid of the little chefs is a stretch. Because I don't think Gusto would have the motto that anyone could cook if he wasn't also friends with his rap chefs. And if somebody killed one of my friends best case scenario their faith will never look the same worst case scenario i'm doing life either way they are no longer working for me
I have watched this movie several times over the several years it has been out, and I NEVER caught that one word slip up that reveals it all. Like son, like father. Both with big hearts, sensible enough to let the true talent shine despite what they are. ‘Anyone can cook’ was truly his way of telling the world subtly and kindly to start viewing every special creature as that: special. This is such an amazing catch - oh my gosh, I love this movie so much more now.
I always thought that Remi did contaminate the hat because we do see him hide around. I always forget that the hat is in a protective glass. Ps. I love how it all leads to the old lady. When the movie first came out there was a theory that the old lady was probably Gustau's mom or some aunt. The proof? She would watch the cooking channel and had the book, she even had spices she didn't seem to use.
@Poggy well, I still think your theory has merit, because I am pretty sure they were still mainly taking about Gustaeu with that line, and only after do they move onto Linguini?
Great theory, but nah. His scheme would've have been running for far too long. He'll need a long rat lineage to keep up the scam. Who knows, maybe they are going to uncover the truth in a sequel. But then, Remys idol would be a fraud and it would taint the first movie.
The way I see it, Gusteau's rat helper may've served as backup: just some help for pulling his weight in the kitchen, or else he'd have gotten fired. Unlike Linguini, Gusteau actually learned and became a good cook in the process. That's when he and his rat friend parted ways ("Guess you don't need me anymore, Gus. Good luck" 😉) And Gusteau rose through the ranks from there, opened up his own restaurant and the rest is history.
There's also another theory that Gusteau was murdered by Skinner because Gusteau dying from 1 bad critic review doesnt make sense and what does Skinner do after him gone? selling frozen microwave food disrespecting Gusteau wishes, and why he's so paranoid about the documents of Linguini being the rightful heir
Yeah, the timeline of events doesn't work out all that well, especially if you consider the idea that Gusteau was likely already on his route to fame when he had Linguini, especially since Skinner seemed to know the woman that was Linguini's mother, based on his reactions, which would indicate that Gusteau and Skinner were at least working together at that point. At the very least, it's not likely that Gusteau lacked skills for cooking in the same way Linguini did, but it is feasible that his greatest accomplishments were aided by a little helper of his own, I just wouldn't agree that Gusteau was completely in the same boat as Linguini, as the theory suggests🤔
s in IT not THEY not THEM they probably just changed the screen play language to feel a little more natural. Whole video debunked itself in the first 2:50
This feels like it would go really well with the theory of Gusteau and Ego being brothers and Shotgun lady their mom. Special rat lineage at the family house. Also what if Gusteau’s last rat was Remi’s mom?
As a chef, you combine ingredients together that don't normally go together to see if they work. I'm sorry, but you are reading way too much into this one
I just rewatched this movie a few days ago, what a coincidence! I mostly agree with this theory, but Gusteau was bald on top, a fact that didn’t seem to change at all in the various depictions of him throughout the movie. This would make a rat unable to control him, which, as another comment states, could have been another reason for his downfall.
Occam’s Razor: in the screen play the writer imagined the antecedent was the report, the director realized it could cause people to think what you did. That said, I prefer your version.
5:06 This specific recipe has really stuck with me, since I always thought "How would Remy fix this?" Like, as a passionate hobby-chef (former professional), my main Idea was that I'd put the octopus and sweetbread as 2 different courses and try to prepare them properly, while changing the sauce by removing the licorice but keeping a bit of the anchovies (since anchovies are really good with seafood if you do it right!) Anyone have other Ideas how to fix this?
I mean... the point is that you can't fix it, but remy somehow magically did it. Impossible task, somehow got results. It was never meant to have a solution.
I agree that this would be a two component dish, most likely served on two different plates. The seafood entrée: For this one you need some serious knowledge about the ingredients. Technically there is no "geoduck egg". The geoduck is a giant clam with a snorkle, that resembles an elephant trunk. So we're probably talking about the gonads here, that are known to be softer than the trunk. Licorice flavour is in fact used in a few Mediterranean (which includes southern France) seafood dishes. But it doesn't come from the licorice plant. The chewy black candy you know as licorice is thickened licorice plant juice, that is flavoured with aniseed - and aniseed matches fish and shellfish. An olive oil sauce, that uses both anchovies and licorice flavour could work. The anchovies deliver the salty taste and the aniseed gives it a unique extra flavour. The main course: Coat the sweetbreads, fry in butter. Stir together another olive oil based sauce from onion, bay leaf, pepper, dried white fungus, parsley and thyme. Because the sweetbreads themselves are very rich, the sauce is only there to drizzle them with some flavour. It doesn't need to be super thick, it's more like a topping. The side dish: Dog rose puree compliments the sweetbreads. It's not made of flowers, but most likely of a larger vegetable like potatoes, celery root or something similar, and then mixed with blended red rose hips (= the fruits of the plant), that are extremely high in vitamin C. Dog rose sauces are used in northern France for venison, because they go well with a stronger, more gamey meat taste, and that would include organ meat. Overall the dish would be a combination of southern and northern French cuisine: The seafood represents the Mediterranean coast, the sweetbreads the northern French countryside. It's a fancy surf-and-turf dish. You use the seafood as an entrée (like a warm Greek squid salad), because the saltiness of the anchovy sauce would serve the same purpose as an oyster: It widens the stomach and enables you to eat more. The licorice flavour (whether it's made with or without real licorice wood) is good for digestion. I could see this as an appetite enhancer, with the aniseed balancing the digestion before you continue with the more greasy, creamy, rich sweetbreads.
@unterdessen8822Oh hellyeah, that's some dedication there! Much love to you!! And now I'm hungry for some surf n turf, omg. Thank you so much for essentially making full on recipes from my basic Idea. Appreciate it!
@yamato9753You're welcome. I forgot the seaweed salt crust, but maybe we're putting that on the geoduck "egg". Have fun cooking. I think a more basic version with cuttlefish in a Mediterranean anchovy/aniseed sauce would be easy to make. Look for Italian seafood recipes (they work with aniseed and fish more often).
You missed something in your original premises. The lawyer doesnt say "I need a hair sample" in relation to linguini, he says "get me hair samples". So there are multiple samples from linguini. So, when he says "I had to send them back" he is likely refering to the multiple samples from linguini.
Another idea is Gusteau could cook, as in follow a recipe. He just couldn't invent new things, due to lack of taste, smell or what ever creative restrictions he had. If his rat helpers just taste tested his food, gave suggestions on which ingredients to use and didn't fully control him it wouldn't be as hard to pull off. Which makes him hiding said secret for years more reasonable.
This is a fun concept, a huge stretch for sure but still a fun concept regardless. The lawyer wouldn't say I was worried about the sample you gave me, if both of the samples had errors.
My only pushback is Skinner WAS concerned about cleanliness. He just saw a rat roaming about the kitchen, while LeClaire, the food critic is there. If word got out about a rat, the health inspector would shut them down for good. Skinner tells Linguine to take the rat away and then dispose of it. I always took the fact that Skinner is now seeing the Rat everywhere like Edgar Allen Poe's "The Telltale Heart". Skinner is superstitious and thinks he is somehow being haunted because he told the boy to kill the rat. Now he's seeing the rodent everywhere he turns, like the Man in the Edgar Allen Poe tale hearing the beating of the Old Man's hideous heart. You even point out the scene in this video when Skinner learns that he isn't crazy; he is indeed seeing a rat hanging out with Linguine. But more than that, the Rat IS the chef, not the boy. "The RAT is the Chef..." he mumbles to himself on the roof. Why would he be surprised by this knowledge if he already suspected his former colleague of being in cahoots with a rodent?
Nice theory, but I see some problems with it: 1. Gusteau didn't have hair in the right places even in the videos from his prime and Remy was pulling on lots of strands of hair when he was piloting Linguine. 2. The DNA testing is used as a plot point, not as absolute real science. In real DNA tests where hair is used you would also need a root, and the years and years long dead root from the loose hair in Gusteau's hat wouldn't provide the DNA profile needed for the test. So we can see that the production team doesn't know or care how DNA testing works, and as a result they may also think that you have to send back both samples to rerun a DNA test. 3. Rats passing down the talent doesn't seem likely to me since Remy's father doesn't have the talent or doesn't seem to have known of the talent existing in older generations. If Remy's mother had the talent it would have been a plot point or at least I would think his father would have talked about it. 4. Chef Skinner started saying "the rat's the chef" because he was sure Linguine can't cook and started seeing a rat with a Linguine that had cooking skills. Also, you know... it's a pixar world, this person finds it more possible that a rat is behind it than the garbage boy that is gonna take the restaurant being able to cook.
Imagine, years of experience, skills, blood, sweat, and then being accused of being controlled by a rat just because you failed on one food critic with ego.
My head canon is that Skinner actually found out that Gusteau's chef was the Rat and then he killed it, or he contained it like that one scene, then it rapidly started Gusteaus decline
This seems to hinge on the weird recipe being a sign of no talent. I counter with this: People try stupid things in case they work. There are... a lot of foods we consider normal today that wouldn't make sense to people before its existence. Cheese is a good example. Cheese is dairy that allows bacteria to work through it and create cheese. Why would you do that intentionally? And yes, you can argue its an accident... but someone decided to eat the accident instead of destroy it. I think, if anything, its Gusteau trying to do something revolutionary. He was probably trying to maintain his prestige with creating new and more innovative dishes... and this one was something he hoped would continue his legacy. And he realized this wasn't going to worked and moved on. Even if this wasn't the case, the recipe in and of itself doesn't prove much. It would require this recipe to be at a certain point in the timeline and more recipes that match it also on the timeline. it could have been an early recipe trying to create a signature dish or something like that. Now, if there was a sequel, I'm certain this theory would become canon. its the easiest way to make a bad sequel.
I just wanna point out that it's not Skinner's first instinct to think the rat is the cook. He figures that put when he literally sees linguine arguing with the rat about it
skinner didn't deduce that the rat is the cook until way late into the movie all skinner knew was that a rat was somehow involved, but it wasn't until he saw linguinni and remy fighting that he figured it out.
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Plot twist: They didn't have a falling out, he didn't lose his rat....he lost his hair, he went bald and had no good way of translating rat-to-human interaction anymore
I am thrilled by your contribution to the discussion.
@Reubentheimitator6572 what's funny-sad is that every attempt to regrow his hair could be viewed as vanity, while compiling on his a anxiety with every failed attempt. An outside "he's all about looks," yet stalwart "at least he's not trying to hide it with a toupee," while the truth is his life is ruined without a real head of hair
🤣🤣🤣 good observation
So basically Remy is maybe the current member of the chef rats bloodline, probably on his mother's side since his dad doesn't have it and she isn't in the movie, and due to Gusteau's hair loss Remy's ancestors were basically out of the job and so had to return to the old ways of rat life after his death because there was no one left to care for them or about them?
There is another way
The rats didn't leave Gusteau, his HAIR left him. He went bald and then the rats had nothing to control him with.
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@GersonH2.0spicy.
How would they run the DNA test successfully then if he didn't have hair?
\o/ Oh my gosh, you're right!
@jsfish1014 Oh Gusteau had hair. He just didn't have hair on the top of his head where the rats needed hair to be so they could control Gusteau.
Just for the first point.
As a scientist, I can state, that when comparing DNA fragments, as in a parentage test; that if a sample was bad and I had to rerun a test. I’d have to rerun it with all samples at the same time. Comparing samples from different runs is possible, but not good, specially for legal purposes. So yes, one bad sample = need both samples again.
Yes this.
I think they use Gel electrophoresis (which I had understood to be the main method most of these tests are performed) the samples have to be exposed to the same variables (gel/current/electophoreses machine/solvent) to ensure the bands would line up at the same spots. Running on a different set up would open it for error and potentially make the test unreliable.
However... Its been a while since I have done this and there may be newer methods.
Clearly this youtuber dont even know sh*t and just pure yapping. Thanks for speak up
@warrior91747 It's just a theory for fun, chill out
this was my first thought, but then again the whole theory is sketchy
Pretty sure you want especially or ‘specially if you want to be in accent
"I have to send them back." Both samples. And then is followed by, "It came back rodent." Singular sample cane back as rodent.
And then let me nerd out on how human labs wouldn't run this way.
that and humans very rarely have perfect sentence structure even when pre-written.
Even then, send them back doesn't necessarily imply both came up rodent hair. It means one of them did so they needed to retest both samples. Even then it could mean the line was written with more than one hair being sent to the lab in the first place. A single hair is probably unlikely.
Tie two Theories together:
That was Gusteau's families house.
The rat did indeed learn the recipes there, for a reason....
That's not a bad take.
Even our chef inherited his dad's lack of ability to cook. By some cosmic coincidence, the great great grandson of the rat meets up with the son of Gusteau, and the universe gets a repeat performance of man's ability used with/by animal instincts and uncommon intellect to create food good enough to melt the heart of a cold food critic.
Good enough to start an entire "chef-boy-r-dee" style food operation.
A second movie with the old cliche, a difference of opinion (rat wants to change an old family recipe and dude just stops like "No!") causes a rift between the two, just to learn their father (or great great grandfather) did the exact same thing, split up for the exact same reason, but Remmy's forefather never left; Do the whole montage where they retreated into the walls, grew old watching Gusteau struggle in secret (those terrible leftover recipes) while the old rat tried to help covertly (the recipes that made it in to the cookbook, like the Ratatouille recipe). Even end the movie with a twist, them learning to compromise, changing the recipe, tasting it as it fades to black and you hear
*"PBBBBBBBLT- **_UGH!_* .....Ok....maybe we _don't_ change the recipe.....at least, not with _that"_
- tiny squeaked - "mm-hmm!" * spit *
My thoughts exactly!
@landonletterman831 Like this!
Hm and if these 2 theories are both valid, they pose an interesting thought: Mabel (the old lady) was the one that in part might have initially launched Gusteau to success (whether she knew about the rats or not) so Gusteau being a fraud might explain why Ego got the gift of a fine palet/love of food (since he was MABLE'S son) while Linguini did NOT (Renata's son, who couldn't cook). Heck, the rat ancestors of Gusteau's "Little Chefs" may have first found out their aptitude for cooking because they watched Mabel cooking and then secretly started experimenting (LIKE REMY DID) until Gusteau discovered them in action. Also, Linguini's lineage got me thinking about his Mom: I get Renata wasn't Gusteau's only wife and they likely had a strained relationship (especially if Linguini never learned who his father was). However, surely Renata knew some recipes so the idea that she never taught Linguini anything about cooking seems far-fetched (unless, of course, she associated cooking with her ex and so did everything to avoid it)?
Except in Ego's flashback its almost the same house that the old lady most likely his mom lives
He has to send "them" back because the samples get destroyed when they test them so to ensure a proper test they have to have both samples tested again to ensure accuracy.
Not fun, but makes sense 😮
But the, “it” was never specified between which one was contaminated with rodent hair. At the very least, it leaves this theory open ended to my understanding.
@dravendfr "It" would specify one of them, and we only know of one that, for a fact, had a rat in his hair. It's a reach saying that it's open ended when it is actually pretty cut dry here. You'd have to ignore certain details to even entertain the theory, so it's a bust/crack theory at best.
exactly, you still send multiple samples in for a test; you send "them" (samples) to the lab. "It" would be grammatically incorrect, especially in french.
@A--Fan except Linguine's DNA sample wasn't a hair sample, Linguine's was a saliva sample from a wine glass.
Isnt Guesteu bald? Maybe thats all that happened to lose the rats😂
@David-nq8cvwhich is where the hair is controlled by the rat 😶🌫️
@jiminyhickerbottoms1846"theres a rat in my pants"
\o/ Oh my gosh, you're right!
What disease (or treatment) causes one to lose hair and then a sudden decline in health?
Perhaps that of another famous “cook” from New Mexico…
I love the theory but gusteau had a cooking show where he himself is narrating how he is preparing each dish. He knew what he was doing without a rat. I also believe the theory that the house remy learned to cook in is the critic’s mother’s. You see it in the flashback. His mother’s recipe was gusteau’s recipe.
Tbh that can be easily handwaved: Gusteau could just remember how pre-existing dishes are made-- it is a cooking show, scripting is a thing, and you probably learn at least a bit after being controlled by chef rats for so long.
It would still make sense after he lost the chef rats, like his main problem then is that he can't come up with new dishes as a 5-star chef- not from a normal dude who kinda sorta learn how to cook from rats controlling him for decades.
@XFGHL78Eso I thought of that but also thought that anything I do everyday for 3 years becomes muscle memory, at least for me. He shouldn’t just kinda know how to cook, he has enough knowledge to tweak the recipes he’s used to and introduce something new without human or rodent help unless depression and pressure changed his taste like a few theories suggest.
@XFGHL78E The problem here is that the burden of proof is on the theory, not the other way around. Now if there was full on confirmation that the theory is true, then handwaving is fair because it's a plot hole that can be easily filled, HOWEVER, with the theory bringing up the idea that Gusteau was a fraud, we can't just handwave the counterpoint, you'd need something more substantial. Handwaving counterpoints is poor form in theorizing, a better approach would be to readjust the idea such that it acknowledges that Gusteau likely wasn't a complete fraud, unlike his son, even if his greatest achievements weren't really his own, something that makes a lot of sense when you consider how he'd need at least some skill in cooking to have kept up the game for as long as he did, unlike Linguini who had no idea how to make the act seem natural and nearly exposed himself multiple times before telling the truth.
My theory is that Gusteau wasn't as bad as a cook as his son. Gusteau could cook, he could follow a recipe and do all the mechanical aspects required during prep. He just couldn't create anything new, perhaps he had a bad sense of taste or smell. But either way he was a run of the mill chef who could just follow instructions. If that was true his rats wouldn't even have to be as impressive as Remy either.
All he would have to do is feed a selection of rats he deemed to have good taste, record what they like and didn't and tweak his recipes that way. Even in his dark days, there didn't seem to be rumors of him not knowing how to handle a knife or use the stove. Just that he had really bad tasting food combinations. As for what happened, best guess some thing killed or scared the rat colony away. Possibly Skinner did it thinking they were just an infestation of the restaurant, something no 5 star place would allow.
Honestly the thing with the recipe is how little context we have about it, he could've made it as a joke, he gives it to an employee, employee either realizes it's terrible or not, if the employee cooks it, they eat it, they realize it tastes bad, funny
"I had to send them [both samples] back to the lab [...] because the first time, it [Linguini's sample] came back identified as rodent hair."
It's ambiguous on what "it" means. "It" could also refer to "the results".
Consider the following.... Gusteau didn't have hair right under his hat. He was balding.
So how was he controlled by a rat? Why is there hair on his hat at all?
Sometimes the simplest answer is the mostly likely
There was no rat. Gusteau was balding but wasn't completely bald, so there was still his own hair to get on the hat.
He was balding, but early in his career he would have had hair. The rats piloting him would have lost the ability to cook using Gusteau's hands when the balding advanced too much, and that's when Gusteau lost the ability to cook
Go check on your own pal's hair dude... That's if ur parents are old already. Even bald people have hairs, but its growing rare and thin
He was bald only at the end
\o/ Oh my gosh, you're right!
the first point kind of falls apart a bit when at 2:20 the lawyer asks for DNA samples plural, then the sending "them" back could indicate the samples from Linguini and not Gusteau.
Yeah, Just because word introduces a plural doesn't mean that the the plural refers to samples from both subjects. It could simply have referred to multiple samples from the same person.
@Vercalos And even if they send Gusteau's sample back, that's completely valid as rodent dna showing up in Linguine's test makes the lawyer question if there was an error in testing, which would invalidate both samples and require retesting.
2:19 Says to collect samples. (plural)
Later talks about samples (plural)
Where's the beef?
yup nothing burger. channel should close.
"You know, I was worried about the hair sample you gave me."
"Sample" singular referring to Linguini's singular sample.
🧑🍳🐀I love this theory, but I have something to potentially add- surely if Remy had ancestors that cooked for humans, someone in their lineage would have told their rat descendants, right? And yet all we hear from Remy's Dad is that "humans want us dead and can't be trusted" AND "that the idea of a rat cooking is ridiculous". So, what if the rat didn't just die of old age but was killed by someone who was well meaning but didn't know about the rat cooking? It could be anyone- Ego's Mom, Skinner, or a member of the staff really who discovered the rat late at night when Gusteau & everyone else was gone. The "Little Chef" rat would find the cheese on the trap/"poison" mistaken for food (especially a rat that trusted what they were being fed & loved to experiment) and then die because of it. When the other rats involved (especially the mate of the "Little Chef" rat) discovered that humans had caused the death of the "Little Chef Rat", it could have been seen as such a huge betrayal that they would go out of their way to make sure something like that would never happen again by teaching their offspring how dangerous humans are, hence what we see in the move. This idea becomes especially intriguing once you remember Remi saved his entire colony because he could smell the poison they were going to try to eat. 🤷♀Maybe this is way overthinking things but to me it's an interesting thought.
Now what if that trait of enhanced smell… was inherited… Think about it… where’s the mom in the equation… Why do you think D’Jango is so concerned about getting close to humans… IT’S BECAUSE REMY’S MOM WAS THE ORIGINAL LITTLE CHEF! IT’S WHY THEY WERE SO CLOSE TO PARIS WITHOUT REMY KNOWING!
@infinityheart_tm9270 That is an interesting theory! However, while I do think Remy's dad losing Remy's mom to humans is probably correct, the way he initially ignores/brushes off Remy's cooking talent/sensitivity to food instead of angrily blowing up with a "You can never cook because that's what happened to your Mom", etc makes me think that Gusteau's last little chef was farther back in Remy's lineage.
@infinityheart_tm9270 I have always wondered about the Mom. Ratatouille 2???
I thought that it was more along the lines of the Rats just taste tested the food for Gusteau. They used their sensitive smell to find good food vs bad. Gusteau wasn't as bad as a cook as his son, and thus could pull off the cooking on his own. He just needed a recipe to follow. This would make the fact no one noticed rats cooking before more possible, they weren't cooks. Just sort of pampered pets used to test new idea's.
And that would mean he actually died of heartbreak, because I do actually believe that in this theory, Gusto and the rats Were Friends. If he were just using them, I don't think he would be insistent that anyone could cook. And I, too, would die of heartbreak if one of my best friends was killed and his family, who would also be my friends, blamed me and hated me forever
You missed a key point that actually makes your first point stronger. They never sent in Linguini's hair. They took his DNA off the wine glass.
Edit: I rechecked, he didn't bag up the wine glass on screen like I thought. My bad.
Wait WHAT?! Really?
There's no indication of that happening in the film. We don't actually see what he gets from Linguini to give as a DNA sample. It was a point I was aware of but skipped over specifically because it's not presented in the film. It's implied he sent hair in from both.
@Poggyhe bags up the wine glass.
@lnlyby_ytI don't give two shits who replies. I'd rather admit my mistake than delete and hide my shame.
@lnlyby_yt why should he be ashamed of making a mistake? You'd delete it like a coward cos you care what strangers on the internet think? 😂 Must suck living life like that.
8:19 Depends on the type of depressed person you are. You can get weird cravings.
Yea you can absolutely just throw random crap together, praying it works, there's also just the idea he could've just been testing it, sometimes something that sounds awful is actually really good...and other times it's just awful, but you never know till someone tries
Truth!
Yeah. Plus who gets everything perfect first go? It's a gigantic stretch to believe a world class chef isn't going to experiment with ingredients that make no sense; that's EXACTLY what a world class chef would do. Experiment.
What they wouldn't do is serve up the failures unless they had to. They would experiment and keep the failures to themself
@YooranKujara He just started watching AL-TV and got inspired one day. XD
@emberguard perhaps he swallowed his creations whole and assumed it was good enough to serve! XD
"proves" has really lost its meaning hasn't it?
"Them" could have referred to more than one of linguini's hairs---as it's usually best to have more than one sample to use. It could have just been a coincidence that both (from linguini) were just rat hairs. It could have also just been a simple error on the voice actor's part. This makes more sense since in the context of the sentence--he was referring to linguini's samples (the samples the little man gave him.) He was not referring to the one sample from Gusteau that he PERSONALLY collected.
Don't disrespect my bro Gusteau.
“Them” as in the several hairs gotten from linguine’s hat.
7:55 You should ask Gordon Ramsay that question about his grilled cheese.
*Pad Thai
@MqKosmos Grilled cheese he cooks in some house or cabin. It looked terrible.
9:37 Remy is Gusteau💀 he came back as a rat... it's also why he could see his human ghost
There's something so crazy about this comment, it just might be cannon! I love this comment! Gusto having reincarnated as Remy to continue doing what he loved with guidance from a ghost of the memory of his past is just a cool theory!
Love it great theory
3:18 That could be explained by the two samples coming into contact with each other so that one contaminated the other with certain bits of rodent DNA (maybe not enough to override human DNA though). I greatly appreciated the highlighting of scenes from the movie that usually don't get paid much attention to & this theory is really even more intriguing when it is paired with his other theory about the old Woman with the rats in her ceiling being one of Gusteau's wives. Great video!
Always wondered why a Famous Chief would keep a horrible Recipe!!!
As a reminder that he too isn't infallible and can fail. Or as a reminder not to try something as daring ever again.
@MDP1702 Understandable but if it was so Horrible why even keep the Recipe??? Even if was an Mistake???
@LungBusted420 My sketch books are full of terrible drawings. should I throw them all away?
@LungBusted420 MAybe as a reminder to not try too crazy things.
As to why he tried it in the first place. He might have felt losing his touch, or not being able to come up with new great recipes. That might have made him desperate to reignite things. And if he could make a great or even just good dish with those ingredients, it would be an impressive feat showing he's back on.
It's not something insane. When you get an idea in your head something that you wanna always do is try try again until you think you can make it work. That determination of the possibility in that maybe in the future you can make it work or someone could.
0:37 Oh. It's THIS one.😂
I was about to say… didn’t the Theorizer already do this one?🤔
It is not plural for both samples, it is THEM as a set of hairs. 1 Gusto hair, and then a few hairs from the kid. Remember your own evidence, he grabbed a SINGLE hair from Gusteau's hat, not multiple.
Your claim to have any standing would require that Gusteau be a rat, and then the DNA sample would have never come back a match, and always come back as a rat.
12:19 I was literally at work like a week ago thinking about that. His reaction was not natural enough.
As fun as this theory is, I feel it's a change of linguistics for part one that's done to actually attempt the opposite of what you described in the them vs it issue.
The lawyer was, in theory, in possession of both samples, and thus he is in charge of sending either or or both.
"It" implies the samples as a unit. "I had to send it back to the lab" implies that the unit of samples he has is both, came back as rodent. That rodent was relevant to both samples.
"Them" distinguishes that there is more than two samples in the unit, implying that one or more samples could be contaminated. It's a very specific linguistic change to show that the contamination was not unit wide, but simply within the unit in some capacity.
"[...] Gusteau just had the sense to let them cook." Now that's poetry.
I watched this entire video because I was genuinely curious, but by the end I was honestly left even more confused and baffled. I’m not really a fan of videos like this that try to paint a completely different story than what the film itself seemed to intend.
I get what you’re saying, but a lot of the points didn’t feel very valid to me. It came across more like digging into a very thin theory rather than presenting a reasonable or eye-opening twist. The explanation also felt pretty scattered and could’ve been delivered much faster and more clearly.
I do appreciate what you were trying to do and I understand the idea behind it, but it just didn’t pay off for me the way I was hoping. In the end, it felt more like a random fan theory than something truly concrete.
I still subscribed to you because I thought it was interesting.
🤔👍
Yeah very thin fs.
Knowing how a DNA test works you need 2 samples to compare against each time regardless. So it helps breakdown any standing. I'm less interested or inclined to watch through knowing, as he claimed, it all hinges on that one word.
"Skinner was right all along"
"Skinner did nothing wrong"
that isn't smoke, it's steam, steam form the steamed hams we're having
It could also explain why Remy's dad was particularly adament about Remy not interacting with humans, seems like the end result of family history distorted through retelling.
I mean if I was chased out of my old home, and my family history was supposed to be a royal lineage of Rats that have a talent for cooking... Yeah I'd feel betrayed, and would not want my son to partake in that. (Which makes the story a lot more mature than just "Parents being against their kids for wanting to live out their dreams!" Because sometimes dreams, or in this case, Lineages can be crushed... Very easily!)
4:18, while I don't disagree it's the most controlled filming environment, but if you think all animation is flawless because it's drawn frame by frame, I implore you to watch a few episodes of like SpongeBob super closely. Floating bags, inconsistent coloring or clothing, literally flashing different colors for certain areas a frame or two, if it's small enough and only played at 24fps, it's not always caught between the artists editors or anyone until one or two in every million viewers catch it and show everyone else
I never said it's flawless. Just that Pixar in particular is meticulous. Comparing them to Spongebob is just not even in the same ballpark.
13:09 doakes moment
Skinner worked with 2 generations of fraud cooks using rats for help. lol
Well, I can see you dig too much effort into Part 2 - The crime scene, and you explained it really carefully and it make sense, thanks.
But as a coder and as an engineer, I also do alot of experiments back in the day, good result, bad result, good code, bad structure,... everything was everywhere, but without it I wasn't able to move up. Those were life lessons, and I saved all my result in my PC so when I have time, I could visit back at any time to re-live the moment. When I see Gusteau save the old failure experimental recipe, I immediately connected. The purpose of the big failure is: This is stup*d, remember that shjt and never make the same mistake again. It couldn't be on purpose, the recipe was so long ago even Colette doesn't even know, so it has really high change to be just an experiment combining flavor, like "what if I can make 2 bad combination and turn it good, idk, let's try". I would.
Well, of all, I like your conspiracy lmao, some people might even think it make sense lol
OR… he was saying “it” in reference to linuini’s sample alone. He obviously had samples from both.
Why TF does this dude look like Caleb Hammer's younger brother 😂
Kyle Mallet
An alternate theory to Gusteau's decline rather than the rats dying out:
* Remmy controls Linguini by pulling his hair.
* Gusteau went bald
* Once bald, he could no longer be puppeted.
It's just the english language, it doesn't work.
Send them, the results... not the samples.
Still a fun theory
Could be! Thanks for watching!
but the original language is english
@harp-692 it's not a translation thing.
@alicepbg2042 Why would you say "I send the results back" you never send results back, its about the probes!
@harp-692 because you don't get back one of the materials you sent. You get them all back.
That "17 years" jumpscared the hell out of me.
What if the reason Skinner jumps so hard and fast on "The RAT is the chef!" is because he had seen it all before -and had a hand in removing the "little Chefs" colony and killing the last one...
It falls flat thanks to the scene where Skinner was shocked to find out that the rat is the cook. If he had seen it before, he wouldn't have made such a reaction.
@benginaldclocker2891 Good point!
Personally I think him getting rid of the little chefs is a stretch. Because I don't think Gusto would have the motto that anyone could cook if he wasn't also friends with his rap chefs. And if somebody killed one of my friends best case scenario their faith will never look the same worst case scenario i'm doing life either way they are no longer working for me
So... Remy is related to the rat that "piloted" gusteau?
Weird way to push the false narrative of the definition of the word them
Bro-ham… in this context, it is absolutely an exclusively plural terminology. Find a different place to perpetuate your performative outrage. 🤦♀️
Cz the only one fraud here is this youtuber 😂
"depression doesn't do that" okay wtf did I have then because I thought it was depression and that's one of the things it did
I have watched this movie several times over the several years it has been out, and I NEVER caught that one word slip up that reveals it all.
Like son, like father. Both with big hearts, sensible enough to let the true talent shine despite what they are. ‘Anyone can cook’ was truly his way of telling the world subtly and kindly to start viewing every special creature as that: special.
This is such an amazing catch - oh my gosh, I love this movie so much more now.
Exactly what I'm saying anyone can cook is not purely just a confession it's also truly his philosophy
I always thought that Remi did contaminate the hat because we do see him hide around. I always forget that the hat is in a protective glass.
Ps. I love how it all leads to the old lady. When the movie first came out there was a theory that the old lady was probably Gustau's mom or some aunt. The proof? She would watch the cooking channel and had the book, she even had spices she didn't seem to use.
But they didn’t use Linguini’s hair, they used the salvia from the wine
@captainacorn2088 That's not confirmed in the film and it's implied that hair was used for both samples. It's never shown how he got the hair.
@Poggy well, I still think your theory has merit, because I am pretty sure they were still mainly taking about Gustaeu with that line, and only after do they move onto Linguini?
Great theory, but nah. His scheme would've have been running for far too long. He'll need a long rat lineage to keep up the scam.
Who knows, maybe they are going to uncover the truth in a sequel. But then, Remys idol would be a fraud and it would taint the first movie.
The way I see it, Gusteau's rat helper may've served as backup:
just some help for pulling his weight in the kitchen, or else he'd have gotten fired.
Unlike Linguini, Gusteau actually learned and became a good cook in the process.
That's when he and his rat friend parted ways ("Guess you don't need me anymore, Gus. Good luck" 😉)
And Gusteau rose through the ranks from there, opened up his own restaurant and the rest is history.
There's also another theory that Gusteau was murdered by Skinner because Gusteau dying from 1 bad critic review doesnt make sense and what does Skinner do after him gone? selling frozen microwave food disrespecting Gusteau wishes, and why he's so paranoid about the documents of Linguini being the rightful heir
@David-nq8cv Actually there was a real life chef who died of a heart attack from a 1-star review. Must've been one of them snowflakes
Yeah, the timeline of events doesn't work out all that well, especially if you consider the idea that Gusteau was likely already on his route to fame when he had Linguini, especially since Skinner seemed to know the woman that was Linguini's mother, based on his reactions, which would indicate that Gusteau and Skinner were at least working together at that point. At the very least, it's not likely that Gusteau lacked skills for cooking in the same way Linguini did, but it is feasible that his greatest accomplishments were aided by a little helper of his own, I just wouldn't agree that Gusteau was completely in the same boat as Linguini, as the theory suggests🤔
I love how you've gone from elder scrolls to ratatouille 😂
So I really just went "Yeah, this is a normal topic lets watch all 17 minutes of it" and proceeded to do that.
That was the first thing I thought when I watched this as a kid, remained my headcanon this whole time.
s in IT not THEY not THEM they probably just changed the screen play language to feel a little more natural. Whole video debunked itself in the first 2:50
Have some fun Niño
The lawyer even uses "it" in the next sentence, "**it** came back as rodent hair"
This feels like it would go really well with the theory of Gusteau and Ego being brothers and Shotgun lady their mom. Special rat lineage at the family house.
Also what if Gusteau’s last rat was Remi’s mom?
17 YEARS???
2:41 could mean had to send the analysts back to the lab to redo the analysis rather than the samples
This is a long stretch for no “testing the hairs scene”😂 or any scene of skinner and gusto together
Linguini:
I'm discovering... Correction, i'm RE-discovering... A new cooking technique.
"Maybe Remy is adopted. He's actually one if the rats of NIMH!"
Unfortunately, The Secret of NIMH isn't a Disney movie, so it couldn't officially be tied in.
My head canon is that maybe gusteau had a rat at first but eventually learned how to cook.
This is an interesting theory. It’s possible that Gusto did loose his sense of taste.
can't wait for ratatwouille to find out for sure
I think the rat that was controlling Gusteau is Remy's mother.
As a chef, you combine ingredients together that don't normally go together to see if they work. I'm sorry, but you are reading way too much into this one
Would Their Ship Name Be Holy Swords & Cannons
Funny thing is, I came up with this same idea waaaayyyyy before I've seen any theories.
There's an implication, then, that Remi got his talent from his mother's side. His mother's side was the Gusteau Rat lineage
How about the samples from Gusteau AND Linguini were sent back?
Disney is very much capable of not giving a damn about a flubbed line. Look at Lion King 2019.
I think those are very different eras.
@Poggy fair
Would explain why Linguini's got the involuntary reactions to his hair getting pulled. It's hereditary from his dad.
In the movie it seemed like, he pulled the FIRST Gusto hair sample after the test for Linguine had already come back as a rat.
No, that was two separate encounters with the lawyer.
@Poggythe theory is solid and the bad recipe is probably the strongest evidence.
That’s really dark and messed up that Remy wouldn’t have long to live after the movie ended
bro i have never heard a more tactical and meticulous roasting session in my life this man spent 5 minutes straight deconstruction bros whole career 🤣
Well that changes everything, in the best way possible.
Right or wrong, I love this theory! Subbed
He's talking about a movie about a rat-chef yet HE'S the one cooking!🔥Great vid!
0:16 Ok, done
0:30 who?
I just rewatched this movie a few days ago, what a coincidence!
I mostly agree with this theory, but Gusteau was bald on top, a fact that didn’t seem to change at all in the various depictions of him throughout the movie.
This would make a rat unable to control him, which, as another comment states, could have been another reason for his downfall.
Occam’s Razor: in the screen play the writer imagined the antecedent was the report, the director realized it could cause people to think what you did. That said, I prefer your version.
I caughf this within a year of watching ratatouille for the first time. Like before I was 12.
5:06 This specific recipe has really stuck with me, since I always thought "How would Remy fix this?"
Like, as a passionate hobby-chef (former professional), my main Idea was that I'd put the octopus and sweetbread as 2 different courses and try to prepare them properly, while changing the sauce by removing the licorice but keeping a bit of the anchovies (since anchovies are really good with seafood if you do it right!)
Anyone have other Ideas how to fix this?
I mean... the point is that you can't fix it, but remy somehow magically did it.
Impossible task, somehow got results.
It was never meant to have a solution.
I agree that this would be a two component dish, most likely served on two different plates.
The seafood entrée: For this one you need some serious knowledge about the ingredients.
Technically there is no "geoduck egg". The geoduck is a giant clam with a snorkle, that resembles an elephant trunk. So we're probably talking about the gonads here, that are known to be softer than the trunk.
Licorice flavour is in fact used in a few Mediterranean (which includes southern France) seafood dishes. But it doesn't come from the licorice plant. The chewy black candy you know as licorice is thickened licorice plant juice, that is flavoured with aniseed - and aniseed matches fish and shellfish.
An olive oil sauce, that uses both anchovies and licorice flavour could work. The anchovies deliver the salty taste and the aniseed gives it a unique extra flavour.
The main course: Coat the sweetbreads, fry in butter. Stir together another olive oil based sauce from onion, bay leaf, pepper, dried white fungus, parsley and thyme.
Because the sweetbreads themselves are very rich, the sauce is only there to drizzle them with some flavour. It doesn't need to be super thick, it's more like a topping.
The side dish: Dog rose puree compliments the sweetbreads. It's not made of flowers, but most likely of a larger vegetable like potatoes, celery root or something similar, and then mixed with blended red rose hips (= the fruits of the plant), that are extremely high in vitamin C.
Dog rose sauces are used in northern France for venison, because they go well with a stronger, more gamey meat taste, and that would include organ meat.
Overall the dish would be a combination of southern and northern French cuisine: The seafood represents the Mediterranean coast, the sweetbreads the northern French countryside.
It's a fancy surf-and-turf dish.
You use the seafood as an entrée (like a warm Greek squid salad), because the saltiness of the anchovy sauce would serve the same purpose as an oyster: It widens the stomach and enables you to eat more. The licorice flavour (whether it's made with or without real licorice wood) is good for digestion.
I could see this as an appetite enhancer, with the aniseed balancing the digestion before you continue with the more greasy, creamy, rich sweetbreads.
@unterdessen8822Oh hellyeah, that's some dedication there! Much love to you!!
And now I'm hungry for some surf n turf, omg.
Thank you so much for essentially making full on recipes from my basic Idea. Appreciate it!
@yamato9753You're welcome. I forgot the seaweed salt crust, but maybe we're putting that on the geoduck "egg".
Have fun cooking.
I think a more basic version with cuttlefish in a Mediterranean anchovy/aniseed sauce would be easy to make. Look for Italian seafood recipes (they work with aniseed and fish more often).
You missed something in your original premises. The lawyer doesnt say "I need a hair sample" in relation to linguini, he says "get me hair samples". So there are multiple samples from linguini. So, when he says "I had to send them back" he is likely refering to the multiple samples from linguini.
Ngl I always interpreted it as Gusteau’s hair needed to be sent back again 👀 I always kinda assumed it was Remy’s dad that was under Gusteau’s hat
The failed dish is such a Souma and his dad from food wars moment
Another idea is Gusteau could cook, as in follow a recipe. He just couldn't invent new things, due to lack of taste, smell or what ever creative restrictions he had. If his rat helpers just taste tested his food, gave suggestions on which ingredients to use and didn't fully control him it wouldn't be as hard to pull off. Which makes him hiding said secret for years more reasonable.
You over thinking it. It’s just a weighting error when making the movie. It happens a whole lot.
Wow sounds like you made a great prequel
This is a fun concept, a huge stretch for sure but still a fun concept regardless. The lawyer wouldn't say I was worried about the sample you gave me, if both of the samples had errors.
My only pushback is Skinner WAS concerned about cleanliness. He just saw a rat roaming about the kitchen, while LeClaire, the food critic is there. If word got out about a rat, the health inspector would shut them down for good.
Skinner tells Linguine to take the rat away and then dispose of it.
I always took the fact that Skinner is now seeing the Rat everywhere like Edgar Allen Poe's "The Telltale Heart". Skinner is superstitious and thinks he is somehow being haunted because he told the boy to kill the rat. Now he's seeing the rodent everywhere he turns, like the Man in the Edgar Allen Poe tale hearing the beating of the Old Man's hideous heart.
You even point out the scene in this video when Skinner learns that he isn't crazy; he is indeed seeing a rat hanging out with Linguine. But more than that, the Rat IS the chef, not the boy. "The RAT is the Chef..." he mumbles to himself on the roof.
Why would he be surprised by this knowledge if he already suspected his former colleague of being in cahoots with a rodent?
It’s also worth noting Remi’s absolute OBSESSION with Gusteau. He even starts SEEING the man. Like a genetic memory?
When you said them instead of it I realized that Gusto also had a rat
My dumb ass thought he was part rat
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3:59 and that's why Helgas hair clips through her shoulder during the song LET IT GO
You've managed to do two things to me. You've got me interested in a theory about a movie I didn't like AND convinced me about it. Great job!
this is a crazy good video! u deserve wayy more subs
basically Chef Boyardee, a figure head
Nice theory, but I see some problems with it:
1. Gusteau didn't have hair in the right places even in the videos from his prime and Remy was pulling on lots of strands of hair when he was piloting Linguine.
2. The DNA testing is used as a plot point, not as absolute real science. In real DNA tests where hair is used you would also need a root, and the years and years long dead root from the loose hair in Gusteau's hat wouldn't provide the DNA profile needed for the test. So we can see that the production team doesn't know or care how DNA testing works, and as a result they may also think that you have to send back both samples to rerun a DNA test.
3. Rats passing down the talent doesn't seem likely to me since Remy's father doesn't have the talent or doesn't seem to have known of the talent existing in older generations. If Remy's mother had the talent it would have been a plot point or at least I would think his father would have talked about it.
4. Chef Skinner started saying "the rat's the chef" because he was sure Linguine can't cook and started seeing a rat with a Linguine that had cooking skills. Also, you know... it's a pixar world, this person finds it more possible that a rat is behind it than the garbage boy that is gonna take the restaurant being able to cook.
thank you for answering the question in the title within the first minute of the video 🙏 you're a man among men for this
Imagine, years of experience, skills, blood, sweat, and then being accused of being controlled by a rat just because you failed on one food critic with ego.
My head canon is that Skinner actually found out that Gusteau's chef was the Rat and then he killed it, or he contained it like that one scene, then it rapidly started Gusteaus decline
This seems to hinge on the weird recipe being a sign of no talent. I counter with this: People try stupid things in case they work. There are... a lot of foods we consider normal today that wouldn't make sense to people before its existence. Cheese is a good example. Cheese is dairy that allows bacteria to work through it and create cheese. Why would you do that intentionally? And yes, you can argue its an accident... but someone decided to eat the accident instead of destroy it. I think, if anything, its Gusteau trying to do something revolutionary. He was probably trying to maintain his prestige with creating new and more innovative dishes... and this one was something he hoped would continue his legacy. And he realized this wasn't going to worked and moved on.
Even if this wasn't the case, the recipe in and of itself doesn't prove much. It would require this recipe to be at a certain point in the timeline and more recipes that match it also on the timeline. it could have been an early recipe trying to create a signature dish or something like that.
Now, if there was a sequel, I'm certain this theory would become canon. its the easiest way to make a bad sequel.
I just wanna point out that it's not Skinner's first instinct to think the rat is the cook. He figures that put when he literally sees linguine arguing with the rat about it
skinner didn't deduce that the rat is the cook until way late into the movie
all skinner knew was that a rat was somehow involved, but it wasn't until he saw linguinni and remy fighting that he figured it out.
Honestly i alway thought the scene where he says it came back as rodent hair mean that gusteau was a fraud and i thought it was implied in the movie.