Galactic Gardeners
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
- The galaxy is an immense place, with billions of solar systems to colonize, and interstellar voyages to even nearby stars can take centuries. In order to explore and settle those new worlds, we may wish to take advantage of a type of generation ship that stops at planet after planet, colonizing each in turn, and entire colonial fleets that grow as they venture outward from Earth, creating new spaceships as often as terraforming new worlds.
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Credits:
Generation Ships:Galactic Gardeners
Episode 172, Season 5 E06
Written by:
Isaac Arthur
Editors:
Darius Said
Edward Nardella
Gloria Meadows
Keith Blockus
Sigmund Kopperud
Cover Art:
Jakub Grygier www.artstation...
Graphics by:
Bryan Versteeg spacehabs.com
Fishy Tree www.deviantart...
Jeremy Jozwik www.artstation...
Kris Holland (Mafic Studios) www.maficstudios.com
LegionTech Studios
Sergio Botero www.artstation...
Produced & Narrated by:
Isaac Arthur
Music:
Markus Junnikkala, "Plotting a Course" www.markusjunn...
Kai Engel, "Endless Story About Sun and Moon" www.kai-engel....
Taras Harkavyi, "Alpha and...." www.discogs.co...
Marcus Warner, "Wintersong" marcuswarnermu...
Aerium, "Windmill forests" / @officialaerium
AJ Prasad of Dark Future, "Staring Through (Part II)" • Dark Future - Staring ...
Markus Junnikkala, "We Roam the Stars" www.markusjunn...
"...give a portion of your life over to studying a field of science you can't practice, that no one around you really values, and has a huge number of practitioners centuries ahead of you..."
Sounds like my relationship to video games.
So true...
Yup my life summed up.
Issac if You ever publish a science fiction book You will sell at least 338,164 copies the first day.
wow. since you made that comment, he gained 20 subscribers. o.O
N since yours 12 more lol ps id buy 3 books, one for me, one for my buddy out west and last for my uncle whos a nuclear engineer who loves space.
I'd buy that
I think of him more as the unpaid (though we are still grateful) researcher, enabling us to possibly write our own...
Hot dam I'd love a Bobiverse stile book from him SO much!
Imagine travelling to another star system as uploaded and archived data, you finally arrive and you then notice that your WinRAR license has expired after 10,000 years and you can't be unpacked.
WinRar is cracked. Only companies with informants pay for it.
Nah it would just ask you nicely to purchase it - it aint MS-Office, just click away the info and you can use it even 10,000 years after the trial period ended.
Dude...
Yaldabaoth bold of you to assume there is such a thing as winrare license expiration ^^
Software licensing isn't a thing in serious industries - all NASA code is in public domain for example, SpaceX runs on Debian Linux, ESA runs on Ubuntu Linux.
Unless the world turns badly, this won't change towards close source.
This is one of my most favorite Episode because my Father a Nasa engineer during the Apollo missions had talked about going to the Stars with Various types of ships .. awesome @IsaacArthur !!!
As much as I hope that other civilisations exist or have existed in our galaxy, I also think it may just end up being our responsibility to be that first true galactic civilisation. Just as scientists have found inspiration for new inventions and concepts in science fiction; so will future planners look back at the ideas of futurists such as yourself Arthur, when it comes time to make the big push out to the stars. I believe we're up to the task.
Sophie Williams me too :)
I really hope that humanity will get to the stars.
This remind me of a quote « we must [...] ensure that human civilization, not insect, dominates this galaxy now and always! »
👍
We have to expand into space. Because life on earth will not be possible forever. Meteorites, climate change, ice age, change in our sun, and so on.
Also, it's to risky to bet on only one horse, the earth.
If something bad happens, we extinct.
So, we don't have a choice but to expand into space.
Earth is perhaps the closest thing to a “permanent home” that we could ever have.
Indeed though, it is NOT permanent.
Luckily however... it IS at least giving us a darn long time to get our “stuff” together, develop the technologies and skills necessary to reach outward... and ultimately survive for longer than the earth will.
We’ve come a long way in our time here so far, and we’ve learned so much. We’ve learned so much in fact... that we know for certain that the earth will not last forever.
To know this as fact... without striving to attain the ability to one day leave this place... would be the most irresponsible mistake that we could ever make.
I know that there are people who recognize this truth... and I am thankful for them, even though I am quite certain that the earth still has far more time remaining than I do personally.
Even though I feel certain that I will long be dead and gone before our civilization faces earth’s demise... I prefer to see some indication that “my” civilization is at least THIS intelligent 😏
@@bobinthewest8559 "Earth us perhaps the closest thing to a permanent home"
- humankind: "let's destroy it!" 🙂
(pollution, CO2, deforestation, wasting resources,...)
@@liberalmonk839 we are not doing that on purpose
Oh damn I'm not ready with the tea and snack, I have to hurry!
Yeah a little early today, I'm increasingly viewing "at 11 AM" as "by 11 AM" :)
Isaac Arthur as long as you keep producing great content as you do . When you get it out is when you think it’s ready. I’ve been told as a child don’t rush the cook.
If you haven't chosen a snack yet, remember the motto of this channel: Bigger is always better!
@@PaulPaulPaulson *looks in my pants*
*cries*
Archaeoptery X yes it is hence my name sake.
I just remember that ominous line from Arthur C. Clarke, "...and sometimes they had to weed."
"I have waited 256 years to become captain. yeah, now I can cammand my own colony ship and colonize a system. the 3426th system of our galactic nation. what a high prestige misson... Oh F it! Let's pack some more rations and go intergalactic" - Cptn James Tea Kurk.
only partially kidding here. with every1 living a loooong life (or even more lives) and with colonization being a routine mission, I bet some1 will go intergalactic just to be remembered
If the gardeners are radiating outward one of them will come across an ideal launch. You can use neutron star or black hole mergers as a catapult.
stefan r - remembered for being a dolt of a capt. with a crew of dolts. Billions of stars in our galaxy and they decide to pop over to the nearest globular cluster half a million years away...
@@spoonikle remembered nonetheless 🤣
@@stevenutter3614 dude, we never throw anything away. Humans are hoarders at heart.
@@stevenutter3614 It can be done. There are many things that are easier. We could launch and entire star out of the galaxy toward andromeda. The people can live a normal planetary existence for 25 milllion years and then they can star building ships on the way in.
You should write a book on all this stuff, just a great compedium of a golden future
It would probably be a fantastic source of income for you
Wow! Not only are gardener ships my favorite subject on this channel, but the artistry in the animations is incredible. This might be one of my favorite episodes yet. Way to amaze Isaac and team! Great job!!!
The Gardener ships.. or colloquialy known as "The Good Old Fasioned Von Nueman Probes" ( without much this new dodgy liberal nano stuff... only good propper human technology ^^ ) XD
Edit: ( not to mention mind uploading that creeps me out now and it will creep me out if i live for 1000 years more XD )
Gardener ships are a good way to spiral out. They just keep going.
90% of your videos very rewatchable. I love the ones with a story arc...the traveler..... The captain....our Favorite science officer..
This series has been pure gold! I'll bet that your content inspires people to reach for the stars and colonize the galaxy. Your work is changing the galaxy for the better, I'm sure of it!
Yup I'm fixin ta make me a rocket
Dear Isaac, I want to sincerely thank you for letting me realize how awesome and interesting science, sci-fi and our universe are, I could've never imagined without your content.
It might not mean much but you've opened my eyes and like that changed my life a little bit in a positive way.
You might not have the views the quality of your content deserves but it does have an impact, thank you for that.
Also Robert A. Heinlein's Methuselah's Children, the first tale of Lazarus Long, in which he flies to the stars with the other Longs, biologically-variant human immortals.
The problem with generational ships is the population having drifted from land-born to ship-born... the scary, dirty and messy life we lead on a planet is *_very_* different from life aboard ship.
orion khan
You can just live in a vr world
@Sheldon Robertson sounds like it was a Carnival ship. 😆
Presuming they will even come from a planet, interstellar ark tech is likely to come from the development of orbital polities, so presumably most people aboard came from rotating space habitats.
lol...if so, ship-born members are galactic generations.
I found your videos about a month ago and have been binging on them! I look forward to seeing all the past episodes as well as your new stuff. It's really enjoyable to watch something that's not conspiracy BS and wild theories with no science to back it up. Thank you, Isaac!
I remember when I first found this channel.
I thought it was cool, and that I might want to watch all of the episodes.
😂😂😂😂😂
Little did I know…. You can’t “finish” this channel.
Thank you, I can't begin to tell you how much I've enjoyed your channel over this last few months. It's really awesome 😃
Hey Mr. Arthur. I work approx 13 to 17 hours a day for a plumbing supply company in Florida. Life gets tough, but when I'm on my runs I like to plug you into the truck speakers. You really help me get through the day and keep my mind occupied.
Thank you.
Keep making these videos, please. The animations, the the deep topic development, the duration, your voice; it's just a perfect combination. This is way better than any other sci-fi content on any other platform.
Happy Arthur's Day everybody!
I think I'm finally getting the hang of it!
Arthursday
Cloud cities always reminds me of the City of Stratos in Star Trek: The Cloud Minders. A key point of that episode was suffocating in the mines on the surface which struck me as odd in that the people in Stratos would no doubt be above the Altitude of Everest and at greater risk of Oxygen deprivation. Gave a whole new twist to the idea of "Getting High" in the late Sixties. And of the 'Untouchables' being 'Out of Touch' with reality. They were.. after all, quite literally 'Overlords'.
As mentioned, it's extremely difficult to get to get near enough to light speed for this to be the case (due to long acceleration times) BUT there comes a point where the time (and space) dilation for the passengers is such that they essentially FEEL like they've achieved FTL travel.
This does not breaking physics, though, since SPACE dilation from the passengers' point of view makes the destination literally become closer.
(Just in case anyone was wondering.)
OldGamerNoob with time dilation at near the speed of light am I correct in thinking that if if a ship went to, say, alpha centuri at 90% light speed that the crew would experience days or weeks and from our perspective here on earth it'd be around 4 years. ( for simplicity's sake let's leave acceleration and slowing down out it for now)
If this is the case then this should slow aging right down and along with life increasing technologies or gene therapies, maybe a crew making it another planet to colonise isn't such a far fetched idea.
Or am I missing something?
@@shakovhudds4213 At 90% light speed the time dilation factor is about 44%, so the crew would experience a bit under two years. In general the time dilation factor is sqrt(1 - (v / c)^2) where v is the velocity and c is the speed of light.
gazebodude42 thanks. I am very interested in these things, especially the theoretical stuff but struggle with understanding certain things as my maths is very weak. It's a pity as I was a highly capable child finding most things in school very easy to grasp and my IQ score was 134 which I've been told is quite a bit above average. Unfortunately, I was more interested in being the class clown, chasing girls and thought I was impressing my peers by being a hard man ( which I wasn't ) by always getting into fights. Now I find myself at 39 yrs old so very interested in science but the fact that my behavior cost me my education means that I'll struggle to get the maths side of it. I don't sit in self pity but when I find myself needing to ask questions like I just did I do get a little down about it as I feel I could have made a good contribution to science had I just paid attention to what I really found interesting rather than acting out and later frying my brain with drink and getting high just to be one of the popular guys.
Anyway, thanks again for explaining that to me
BTW, these days it seems that the so called "nerds" are the popular guys.. so I say to all the young future scientists GO FORTH AND EMBRACE THE GIFT OF NERDHOOD. My 13 year old son is a nerd of the highest quality and I encourage it. Poor kid thought I'd be disappointed that he's not a sportsman but I couldn't be more proud.
But what is important? Time as it's experienced by the crew or the originating civilization? The crew might number a few million while the civilization might number trillions.
So the crew was sent to establish a colony to save the civilization. The crew experiences 2 months but the civilization experiences 10,000 years. The crew sends home a message in English. Back home the folks are speaking a creole of English, Swahili and Chinese and brewed for several millenia... they don't understand the message any more than a modern English speaker would understand caveman grunts.
Culturally Earth has developed space-phobia. Millenia of fake news and mis-understood episodes of Ancient Aliens has resulted in a heavily armed Space Force that fires the Nicoll-Dyson beam autonomously at any artificial signal. That message home the colonists sent is their death warrant.
Your voice is very relaxing and I appreciate that.
Great episode as always! Keep up the great work, I love this channel!
it's exciting to postulate how humans in far flung colonies would evolve, sending data of their mutations to the greater human collective for those that would find them useful, mutations could become like fashion, purple eyes, infrared vision, abilities to metabolise different elements...
future ink shops on other worlds will have them: TATS, MUTATIONS, ETC. HERE!
8:34
Its so very lonely, your're one hundred light years from home.
Lunch and drink and a new SFIA video. A good day made better, great work as always Isaac.
Well that was one of the smoothest transitions to Ads I've seen on RUclips. I'm genuinly surprized how unintrusive that felt.
This is likely the best softest segue into a promotion for the sponsor I’ve heard in 9 years watching RUclips!
It was a full 30 seconds into the advert at the end before I realized it was an advert. I'm undecided on whether that's a sneaky underhanded sales tactic, or just a display of sheer brilliance with the segue.
Given how much I love your content, I'm inclined to go with the latter. ^_^ Keep up the fantastic work!
Happy Arthur's Day everyone.
hey! coast to coast am plus my favorite youtube channel.... im so soo excitted to listen to it today, just wanted to let you know im like really really happy..... you the man isaac !
Great episode. I absolutely love the idea of an entire galaxy brimming with life, both people and ecosystems.
Sounds like a tremendous series. It wouldn't even need anything going wrong to make it interesting. The social and generational aspects and integrating new technologies and history en route would be very interesting all on its own.
So glad i found this channel
Imagine if Issac made a movie made on this channel. that would be amazing.
Do you write novels or short stories or anything? You always introduce me to so many cool ideas, I bet you'd be great at it
You can maintain "Sleeper Skills" such as geology by making it a spectator sport. Even making computer games out of it that report not only score but intitle actual benefits that you can enjoy on the ship (prestige and luxuries). But always make it multiplayer. Competition is good.
Thank you for condensing this information and also for presenting so much of it consistently for years. I'm 3 years behind catching up but so glad there's so much to take in still.
Great video as always! We love your content!
Cities of the Future I always watch it too!
It’s great to see more and more science seeping into sci-fi-I hope sci-fi authors watch these videos!
5:55
"Age does not always bring wisdom and knowledge, but in general it does, ..."
Let's make sure it does, one of the last things we need to do is to seed an entire star cluster with idiocracies 😞
Hells Yes ! Happy Arthursday Y'all :)
Gotta say, I love the way you integrate the sponsors into the topic so seamlessly. If I look away, it will be a couple sentences before I even notice the advertisement, because it ties in so well.
"Heading home on highways of light" - nice
That ending with the seamless transition to advertising for Skillshare. Pretty good.
This channel is a reliable high point of every week. Thank you Isaac!
Good watch. Thank you.
I love this type of videos, if I ever get to born again in the future, I want my job to be terraforming planets
Mecha Fox
There won’t be jobs in the future
@@spaceman6463 Oh yes there will be
BioMutarist
Name one job that ai or robots can’t do tell me one job
@@spaceman6463 somebody has been paying attention😄
Jon Jones's Dealer
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Of all the youtubers with sponsorship messages in their videos - your's are my favorite, I actually look forward to finding out how you'll do it each video - A smile was on my face when I realised moments before the reveal that the sponsorship segway was in effect.
Hearing you on coast to coast !
Fantastic.
Good on you.
Once he started talking about skill sets, I thought the skillshare plug was coming up
Awesome happy Arthursday!!
reminds me of the story I read about a race of beings that arrived by slow boat, placed a small orbital bases and "beamed" someone in. and communication started.
Humas had a thing going, and when they got out the other side, they said to themselves, I lost, because They would be stuck on that wo0rld forever.
I had just prepared myself some tea. Perfect timing!
I loved the transition into the skillshare ad. That was smooth.
On Thursday I watch new Isaac Arthur. On Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday I rewatch old Isaac Arthur.
I am addicted to your videos!
The way you tied in the skill share plug into the topic is brilliant!!!
No, Brilliant is one of his other sponsors! ;) Yeah, he is good at tying in his ads to fit with his content.
@@kevincrady2831 clever, took me a second.
James Blish- Cities in flight. good fun read. cities become interstellar ships where the crew lives very VERY long lives.
Everything these days is sponsored by skillshare
Either that or Brilliant and NordVPN
Jupiter
RUclips does it for free lol
Have to train people for those skills you need on an interstellar ark somehow
easy market to monopolize. trick is to not be myopic about it like brilliant and skillshare
If interplanetary expansion happens in our lifetime we're the ones who get the jobs
Could you confirm my submitted translation for subtitle, several are pending :)
Give this lady some cheesecake; she deserves it.
it may be 10 am but im ordering a pizza for this pause
sometimes i just gotta smoke a big fat doobie before watching issac arthurs videos. Galactic Gardeners? This is gonna be a trippy one boys
The feels at 22:50. I wasn't ready.
Verry good content.
Keep up the good work.
Thought number four: Movie idea! Humankind has built Gardener Ships with near-immortal humans who have built Dyson swarms about 10,000 stars, say 10,000 years in the future. Then First Contact! I believe they be far more advance than us. Of course our recorded human history is but a moment on the herstory of the Galaxy. This can go many ways from here. Will they set limits for our growth, demand that we file to licenses at the Orion Arm office of Galactic Zone permits? Will they have FTL drive and refuse to share because we ready proven to be in their territory. Many ways to go from First Contact.
i hope you dont mind me broadcasting you on the unofficial school radio
@jose valenzuela the audio quality was awful and nobody listened, but I did it anyway and I regret nothing.
Time to spread the seed that is Issac Arthur across the galaxy that is Earth
Could we please get a video on genetic engineering on humans and what it could do
Like how strong and smart humans can become with genetic modification humans
Iam sitting in my Car ... cant leave before End 😊
I hope you have access to a drink and snacks in your car
Please tell me you don't watch videos while driving.
@@Ag3nt0fCha0s Yes? I mean I LISTEN to them while driving.
Yes iam listen while driving... and we drive -fast- in germany 😂
@@TAJ1977 listening is fine... I do that with Podcasts... do you watch the video or have your eyes on the road?
Because, mein freunde, people expect better of the Germans than to have their eyes off the road.
This is a fantastic episode Isaac, I love it.
Imagine a person who got onboard as a young adult, maybe older teen, who never gets off, living to see many generations of drop offs. That person would be like a sage onboard.
Thought number three: I love that you taught me about Stellasers! Seems the most sense as a propulsion system to the stars! I imagine the first to arrive to a new star would break with a Bussard ramjet then the build the Stellasers system to break and launch future Gardener Ships.
These videos go great with "snacks" and coffee. Eloquent as always Issac!!
Hey Isaac, you should do a video on "artificial" gravity through the use of actively "levitating" a small core of strange matter in the center of a small fake planet. It's my my understanding that strange matter could be outright stable and carry charge, and I presume this could be used to keep it stationary in the center of even a solid spherical structure.
Isaac, you mentioned communication as taking centuries. Have you produced anything with the technology around quantum entanglement? Not specifically teleportation, but more the social and galactic impact of possible instantaneous communication?
The intros are always so epic.
Good stuff as usual! Thanks!
There's some inconsistencies here between referencing a _trip_ that takes many centuries to reach its destination, and having _signals_ from their origin being centuries out of date. The former doesn't mean the later. Each colony is likely to just be a few lightyears beyond the last. Eventually they'll be light-centuries from Earth itself, but never light-centuries from the edge of civilisation.
i really hope that i get to see a lot of these things in my lifetime, they should really use this channel as inspiration when we start heading into space
I hope you're very young!
And, live to be very, very old.
Otherwise . . . .
a very interesting statement from Isaac about tears and oceans... here from the Buddha 2600 years ago :
Which is more: the flow of tears you’ve shed while roaming and transmigrating for such a very long time-weeping and wailing from being united with the unloved and separated from the loved-or the water in the four oceans?” “As we understand the Buddha’s teaching, the flow of tears we’ve shed while roaming and transmigrating is more than the water in the four oceans.”
“Good, good, mendicants! It’s good that you understand my teaching like this. The flow of tears you’ve shed while roaming and transmigrating is indeed more than the water in the four oceans. For a long time you’ve undergone the death of a mother … father … brother … sister … son … daughter … loss of relatives … loss of wealth … or loss through illness. From being united with the unloved and separated from the loved, the flow of tears you’ve shed while roaming and transmigrating is indeed more than the water in the four oceans. Why is that? Transmigration has no known beginning. … This is quite enough for you to become disillusioned, dispassionate, and freed regarding all conditions.”
Been waiting for this episode
Yeeehaw another Isaac Arthur episode
I’ve said it before... I want to be an engineer aboard the Unity. Go life extension! Lol
Nice. Covering the spectrum from Benford’s near-tech Ocean Of The Night to Banks’ humanity prime Culture ships.
I could definitely see several distinct social groups joining such a fleet: 1) The colonists intent on making one voyage to another solar system, and staying there indefinitely; 2) The vanguard/pioneers who set up colonies, but then move on once a colony is established; and 3) The crew who view the ship/fleet as their permanent home. Each group would require different skills, possibly have different transhuman modifications and would likely form their own communities. That might make it easier for the fleet to move on each time, because they'd be sticking with "their people." They might not even really see each other as the same species, depending on how heavily-modified they are. The crew of the ship might be purely digital entities, who only "live" in the ship's computer and access drones when they need to interact with the physical world; while the colonists might be humans genetically-engineered for life on the target planet; and the pioneers might be cyborgs with adaptations to allow them to function in a wide range of environments.
we here on earth already face the problem of being maxed out, unable to expand. after gardener ships colonized all systems and those systems grew, the inner systems will be maxed out. can arthur do an episode on civilizations being maxed out? especially on the transition from a growing civilization to a static one
Forget the drink and snack, I had breakfast while listening to this. Scrambled eggs with hot sauce, toast with apricot preserves, and black coffee.
What’s your go-to snack for SFIA people?
BEER in hand now!
Protein shake or Raman noodles with eggs
Always inspiring and thought provoking.
YAY ARTHURSDAY!!
Isaac, thank you :)
Any speed is a fraction of light speed :)
Happy Arthursday everyone.
Snacks and drink ready. Engage.
Tea.
Earl grey.
Hot.
Cryosleep would be the best invention ever. I wouldnt even wanna use it for Travel, just freeze me for a couple hundred years.
Great job on coast-to-coast man!
You are quite clever huh?!
Good videos.
Interessting accent too.
Nice to know the White Whale has a proper classification as a data ship.
Tis the little things...
I'm thinking of ship designs: you showed a planet ship in another video - instead of a full planet use a small control ship to be the heart of a spherical ship. Each layer added over time, the seed ship separates and begins making more layers again as it gathers and stores materials like fat in the body. The first sphere will be the first colony with all the materials it would need. Space and time would not be complicated as it would be added as needed for any basic technology if no significant advances are made. Using well developed current technologies we could start a seed ship from earth to the moon; from the moon to Mars; from Mars to Asteroid Belt and so on. WAITING for our PERFECTION may not be WISE. Though ALL these IDEAS are SAFE and PLEASING - they might be what keeps us from getting away.