FFXIV SB: Initial Thoughts On LV 70. DRK

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  • Опубликовано: 30 янв 2025

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  • @ShikiRyougi05
    @ShikiRyougi05 6 месяцев назад +4

    I like watching these old videos from time to time

  • @Reclacont75
    @Reclacont75 7 лет назад +23

    When you have the time, could you release your opener and rotation? Either a video or just commenting here would be great. Thanks!

  • @rampartd.1100
    @rampartd.1100 7 лет назад +37

    Dude you should be a car salesman you got me sold on DRK lol

  • @Malicus
    @Malicus 7 лет назад +8

    Until I got bloodspiller I was fucking MISERABLE on my DRK.

  • @naomi_moon
    @naomi_moon 6 лет назад +4

    in summary: "you can just dark arts whenever you want"

  • @ArrowsOfChaos
    @ArrowsOfChaos 7 лет назад +9

    Please lower delirium CD. Please. Thank you.

  • @belowaverage3451
    @belowaverage3451 11 месяцев назад +2

    Young strummer....

  • @nemeanlioness
    @nemeanlioness 7 лет назад

    hope you make a guide in the future. played pld and war but I've never been able to understand dark.

  • @JonnyBeoulve
    @JonnyBeoulve 7 лет назад +1

    Good video. Thanks my friend.

  • @Aotsuta
    @Aotsuta 7 лет назад

    Granted the Bloodprice mp nerf is annoying I think the Syphon Strike buff (I believe you forgot to mention it) kinda makes up for it. Really had to swap from PLD to DRK in A12s, but really enjoying PLD and DRK right now in SB. Thanks for the video.

  • @toasternoodle2938
    @toasternoodle2938 7 лет назад

    Do you plan to do a dark knight guide/video on how to play the class and such in the near future? working on my drk now and loving it.

  • @ExireHG
    @ExireHG 7 лет назад +1

    2 outta 3 ain't bad on the tanks...I guess lol. Shame about Warrior, hope it's fixed by the time the raids start up. You were spot on in a really basic way there. You can't give a job no utility and not buff its damage. That's like 1+1=2 basic haha. I think I'll end up tanking on DRK until WAR HOPEFULLY gets fixed and is way less clunky than it is right now. As ironic as it might be, I like playing more of a 'violent' aggressive tank with a cool weapon. Sword n' Board just never appealed to me. Thanks for the solid videos! =)

  • @SirVyre
    @SirVyre 7 лет назад

    I really love Quietus, in dungeons. If you got a good healer, you can can drop grit and do it with Blood Weapon. Since it's physical you get a shit ton of MP back and Blood, and it's just like this endless loop of Quietus. Also pretty WHM friendly, since it doesn't rely on the mobs hitting you, that holy stun is friendly now :D
    The Blackest Night, I love, cause I can purposely trigger higher blood/stay alive/keep someone else alive. I've used it to save healers, DPS, MTs etc. It's just awesome. Also the fact that it's 15 seconds... phew, if you didn't care about damage, you could pump it out for pretty much every buster. With VIT accessories you get a 10~11k shield out of the deal, on top of whatever your healer gave you. Can reduce TBs to 0 if you want, pretty easily, especially if you coordinate with other members for maximum mitigation and stuff. DRK is in a super good spot. Love it.

  • @bwaaay
    @bwaaay 7 лет назад

    Lol Bok with the cameo! XD

  • @labibjaffar
    @labibjaffar 7 лет назад

    Hey man =D
    When do you think you'll do a guide on 4.0 in-depth guide for DRK?

  • @Malacket
    @Malacket 7 лет назад

    will you be showing dps opener and also what are the best tank cross spells that you use on drk ?

  • @pragmat1k
    @pragmat1k 7 лет назад +1

    I have a lot of fun on Royal Menagerie when the other tank is still i290 and Ahk Morn is incoming. I use Blackest Night on them so make the healer's job easier.
    Also Blood Price losing the MP gains hasn't been too bad. With the enmity buffs you can do your souleater combo when you need to get more MP back, which if you're in grit nets you like 2400 MP a switch without Dark Arts.
    So if you're doing a huge pull and going to AoE it down I usually do my pull > Abyssal > Abyssal > Carve and Spit (no DA) to get back about 1k MP, Abyssa > 1, 2 syphon for more MP > Abyssal > Abyssal, Sole Survivor etc.. etc...

  • @ibdustin15
    @ibdustin15 7 лет назад

    This guy must have mad clicking skills because he is an absolute beast in this game and he clicks.

  • @ChaosKaz
    @ChaosKaz 7 лет назад

    with blood price nerf.. it's locked behind grit and in grit syphon strike gains double the mp gain which is a DA.

  • @LordGuy
    @LordGuy 7 лет назад

    So Blackest Night should be used on every buster to proc Bloodspiller right? I mean, DRKs have less CD's, but can always have a 20% HP shield on busters if played well, and that same shield grants you a damage boost... It looks pretty strong on paper. The 180s CD on Shadow Wall is way too much indeed :c

  • @anthonymcgundam
    @anthonymcgundam 7 лет назад

    i've been main drk since HW early access (and alt pld) and something i have noticed that noone seems to know, even had conversations with other drks, unleash has higher enmity production dispite its lower dmg and does not interrupt combos, abyssal drain has a lower enmity gain stat and interrupts combos. something i do in bigger pulls is still hard slash-siphon strike-unleash-souleater. abyssal drain doesnt even hit most of the mobs unless you target the middle mob for max effect, which on console and in bigger pulls can be quite... stressful is one way to put it, hell, in the heat of it, targeting anything with a mouse can be wipe inducing. the nerfs youve mentioned are anoying, especially the blood price one, but next to plunge, dark passager is out only other ogcd attack. it's over all in a good spot now, but definitely needs some work. i will say though, the fun factor has dropped on DRK with sb, since i swear my still lvl 61 pld does more dmg than my 70 drk atm with 45ilvl differance. i will stick with drk as i see changes coming in the future.

  • @Commanderflynn
    @Commanderflynn 7 лет назад

    So how does one regen MP reliably with DRK?
    I mean if you plan on using DA>Syphon>DA>Bloodspiller>DA>SoulEater...
    that's alot of mana in that burst

    • @AliguraAethernum
      @AliguraAethernum 7 лет назад

      Either blood price or blood weapon, depending on if you have grit on, but blood weapon is a lot stronger regarding MP regen. Also syphon strike regens exactly the same amount of MP as is used by dark arts when you have grit on.

    • @Commanderflynn
      @Commanderflynn 7 лет назад +1

      Ooooh. I didn't realise they buffed Blood Weapon and Syphon Strike. Used to only do a meager amount of regen.
      I agree that Blood Price needs a buff though. Going from like 400mp regen per hit to 88mp per hit (at a fresh 60) is painful :c

  • @Fredible_Hulk
    @Fredible_Hulk 7 лет назад

    I've noticed a few times you've said that if you tank in tank stance your a crap tank. Can you explain why you feel that way? I find it hard to tank in dps stance if the healer is also trying to dps because there is no way my dps compare to a normal dps. So I'm popping defensive cool downs and losing threat trying to keep myself alive.

    • @XenosysVex
      @XenosysVex  7 лет назад +2

      people dont listen to the entirety of what i say. when i say tanking without your tank stance is optimal this is assumed you know the fight, know how to use your cds and have secure threat. People like to just pull without tank stance without giving a fuck about any of those things and think its ok. I try to play at the most optimal level i can, and a vast majority of the time that does not involve having tank stance on, but being in dps stance. Tank stance acts as training wheels in a sense and once you no longer need it due to experience and familiarity of the fight, then you can begin to optimize without it.

  • @moosecat00
    @moosecat00 7 лет назад

    Hallowed Prevents debuffs such as slashing resist down from Susan. This allows for a better opener for your off-tank. Walking dead procs always guarantees death in pugs. Also TBN being a potency increase makes things much more interesting than Paladin.

    • @XenosysVex
      @XenosysVex  7 лет назад

      hollowed preventing debuffs is new to SB and they may decide to change that. its too early to tell. BN is only a dps gain if youre in grit and it is a loss if you spam it

    • @erin2380
      @erin2380 7 лет назад

      This will probably be the only time I comment on a video simply to inform you that Hallowed Ground negating debuffs is not something new to SB. It was a trait that the skill always carried with it but of course, when no one actually uses it past an "oh shit!" button they never learn it can.
      While negating a debuff won't always work on bosses in heavier raid situations/extremes, that's no different from the other tank skills. The ones that it can be implemented on (in case of current arguments Susano EX) it is a very valuable skill to utilize in a pinch or to allow your OT to continue to go dps crazy during what would normally be a tank swap phase that IS a waste of time.

    • @XenosysVex
      @XenosysVex  7 лет назад

      +Ren youre logic is flawed with hollowrd being an oh shit button. its not. the fact people use it that way is horrible. it should be planned out not sat on the entire fight waiting for you to drop low. and besides susano what debuff did it completely negate? almost every single debuff bypasses hollowed that are placed on tanks still go on you even through requiring a tank swap.

    • @erin2380
      @erin2380 7 лет назад

      Xenosys Vex Never in my statement did I support the use of Hallowed Ground as just an "oh shit" button so there are no flaws in my words. As I said others tend to not look past it as such and thus learn little on the uses of the skill. Saving the cooldown for what one thinks is the ideal situation is a waste.
      Another instance where Hallowed Ground can be implemented is in HW with Sophia EX where you negate the lightning debuff in the tank buster, thus needing no swap.

    • @XenosysVex
      @XenosysVex  7 лет назад

      Ah, i see i misread youre understanding of the phase. Although Sophia is a bad example because you can solo tank that fight with any tank, so hollowed isnt really much better than holmgang,. you get maybe 2 Hollowed if you use it right away? holmgang you around 3? maybe 4 if you use it to prevent kockback in phase 1. Not discrediting hollowed in thise situation where it is clearly the best but that doesnt happen very often.. I just think its overated and 7min CDs are awful

  • @slidellstunna
    @slidellstunna 7 лет назад +4

    Well at least you admitted The Blackest Night is really good. For weeks , even up to last night when I told you it was great on your stream , you said it wasn't gonna be used that often when you were still only level 64. I rarely reply to these videos but after some of my friends found it crazy that anyone would say it wasn't that good (cause they've seen me use it first hand to just stand in whatever I want and get free Gauge) , I felt the need to come and say I told you so.

    • @XenosysVex
      @XenosysVex  7 лет назад +1

      i never said it wouldnt be used haha. i said its a prog ability and will function like path. BN is a dps loss unless youre i grit so it will be used until you no longer need the mitigation or you invuln a tank buster. its a really useful ability though

  • @alanr7909
    @alanr7909 7 лет назад +4

    Dark passenger and unleash are both trash tier now, on par with PLD's tempered will, only better than WAR's onslaught and shake it off

  • @kurosatsu7872
    @kurosatsu7872 7 лет назад

    I main DRK 1 and half year:
    I share your opinion i was so sceptical about drk when i first saw changes. my opinion is changing slowly.
    i think DRK in tank stance dps beat other 2 tanks atm.
    i think bloodspiller syphon and blood price same potency da make you able choice when da is used.
    i agree skill cap droped alot.
    Blackest of night is really good and it scale even better with more health we get on yourself. 50k 20% is all-ready 10k shield.
    Negative side:
    i agree blood price mana regen nef is to much what downside is AOE pulls feel realy bad atm.
    dark passanger nef make that skill not worth placeing on quickpar.
    Living dead getting more and more dangerus whit 50k raid health on tank healing 10s out of it getting more dangerus.
    tank cooldown amount is bit lower now compare paladin.
    Off tank stance dps fall behind other 2 tanks.

  • @TheIonBull
    @TheIonBull 7 лет назад

    this is really up lifting I'm a main dark knight since it came out and was worried they changed too much to grit mode. but yeah I agree they made it easier to play which in my books is good.

  • @MoonDasher07734
    @MoonDasher07734 7 лет назад

    Hi Xeno !

  • @genesisSOC
    @genesisSOC 7 лет назад

    What's so "awesome" about Quietus? It's worthless, can someone tell me why it's not worthless and how to use it correctly? Why would you ever Dark Arts Quietus over one Abyssal Drain?

  • @AuraKurai
    @AuraKurai 7 лет назад +14

    The change to bloodprice really furstrates me, i cannot even abyssal drain properly in big pulls, it just drains more than what I gain back, they should increase the recovery of mpw ith it, its just aids as it is, other than that, its a fun job and I enjoy it more than warrior too, warrior just gives me cancer. Specially that fucking time when I ended with 1 rage.

    • @sdkddt1218
      @sdkddt1218 7 лет назад

      I feel they could just tune back the MP gain nerf, and nerf the extra time from Delirium to 8 secs or 6, to keep it the same line as Blood Weapon.

    • @BorkieOmnominous
      @BorkieOmnominous 7 лет назад +4

      protip, pop rampart, drop grit, put on bloodweapon, and use quietus. You regain mp for every target your quietus hits when BW is active

    • @HalberdierHyperion
      @HalberdierHyperion 7 лет назад

      This definitely seems like the best way to do it. Might even be worth using The Blackest Night during the Blood Weapon window just to get more Quietus, since it does more damage than Abyssal Drain anyway. I wonder how many adds make that really worth doing, and how many would be too dangerous. Guess that probably depends on gear and which encounter it is.

  • @robinetdeaufroide
    @robinetdeaufroide 7 лет назад

    I mained WAR in ARR, DRK in heavensward and now PLD in stormblood but often switch to DRK because it's really fun. WAR is trash and it's sad.

  • @OtherworldHorror
    @OtherworldHorror 7 лет назад

    It lost a lot of it's difficulty but overall I love the changes. Now can work both really well as MT and OT with our ability pool and have a really solid support skill in the means of Blackest Night. I feel the micromanagement is gutted which I feel meh about but I also play SMN as my main DPS and it kinda got changed in a way that I feel is for the better just like DRK did (except aetherpact on SMN cause shits fucking janky and buggy as fuck). Overall I'm happy with the changes to it and am hoping they hold up well in the new raids.

  • @frippon01
    @frippon01 7 лет назад +1

    Hey, can you tell us your gear and your dps on your drk ? I want to get a basis to see if I'm performing well with it :p

    • @frippon01
      @frippon01 7 лет назад

      Ok then, thank you for your response :D

  • @Fredible_Hulk
    @Fredible_Hulk 7 лет назад

    It's weird hearing people talk about DRK. I usually the only in my FC that consistently plays DRK. I get kind of salty when people talk about it negatively. With all due respect to video I got a little irritated because it feels like you want these changes and tweaks with the tank jobs to just suit you. For instance as a DRK I don't care that PLD can block magic, I'm not a PLD I'm a DRK ... I can negate magic damage. Only way I can see this being an issue is if we were comparing raid utility magic defense. Then you might have an argument IMO

  • @wrightofway
    @wrightofway 7 лет назад +1

    Dark Passenger is a DPS increase against exactly 2 targets, for what it's worth.

    • @XenosysVex
      @XenosysVex  7 лет назад +1

      no its not, unless you are capped. if you have time to spam AD its always going to be better because for 1 DP its 100 pot, for the same mana you get 2 AD for 260 pot, more than double the damage

  • @andreydikit652
    @andreydikit652 7 лет назад

    "Leveling it up was aids."
    Yup, I can attest to that.

  • @05magical05
    @05magical05 7 лет назад +15

    The thing with DRK we seem to forget is: DRK is only in a good position now because WAR is not, as soon as WAR gets his damage back and his stuff fixed, DRK falls to the bottom and here is why:
    1. They lack mitigation to compete with both tanks.
    2. His damage is only better than WAR and worse than PLD, which is going to change anyway.
    Why would you bring a DRK over WAR (when/ if it gets fixed) or PLD since they lack mitigation + their dps isnt godlike eventhough its easy to play.
    Also delirium should be on at least 90sec cd instead of 2min.

    • @TheCyberShockar
      @TheCyberShockar 7 лет назад +2

      DRK does more damage then PLD, when they are MT and when they are OT.... I don't know where you got your information from but I would like to know how you came to that conclusion.

    • @Quickshift28
      @Quickshift28 7 лет назад

      05magical05 lack mitigation, they have a shield they can use every 15 seconds that at lvl 70 has a protection of 8000 hit points with the artifact gear

    • @05magical05
      @05magical05 7 лет назад +3

      check the dummy requirement for all tanks, check what dps is expected from them, keep in mind that dps is without slashing debuff (10%) and without any magic buffs for their holy spirit. That said i leveled all 3 tanks to 70 and tried all of them out before coming to this conclusion. Also mr. Vex here said it himself too so idk what more confirmation you need. This was known even before SB release

    • @05magical05
      @05magical05 7 лет назад +2

      @quickshift28 Pls dont look at single mitigation for each tank since this will be ongoing, i said "compaired with the other tanks" WAR has more mitigation than DRK, arguably more than PLD even, PLD has intervention which does what the blackest night does but on steroids. and PLD has more too.

    • @fetzel5055
      @fetzel5055 7 лет назад +1

      05magical05 in what world does a pld do more damage than a DRK

  • @Flockin1217
    @Flockin1217 7 лет назад

    I hope you read this comment because it's high In appraisal. Personally you are the only ffxiv commentator/reviewer about anything ffxiv related that is comparable to mr happy you do high quality content however you curse entirely too much to where it doesn't even make sense to implement curse words. You kinda try to reinforce your thoughts more than necessary like on Pld vid. Probably said the same thing 10 times. "Really really good" "super fucking good" "really good". Yet these things are minor compared to your content. I find that if you took those remarks with a grain of salt, you'd evolve as a youtuber

    • @XenosysVex
      @XenosysVex  7 лет назад +2

      Thx, and yea i definitely read all comments. I curse a lot because... well thats how i talk, cant help it. I have a much better vocabulary when i take the time to write out a script and such. However, cursing I found makes people pay attention. Regardless if its good or bad they are paying attention. I dont care if people like me as a person, I care that the information is out there. I also have to reiterate my points multiple times because people are fucking retarded and dont listen to things the first, second or even third time that a subject is voiced on. Even with annotations people will still ask questions. People forget that there is an extremely wide variety of brain activity among viewers. So all in all at the end of the day, I do my videos how I want people to view me as a person, and that person may be nice, mean, try hard, elitist, but it is always informative and accurate.

  • @ryanrebs5830
    @ryanrebs5830 7 лет назад

    Now Xeno , Which tank is MVP?

    • @lilflava6716
      @lilflava6716 7 лет назад

      Ryan Marissen he already stated pld is godtier

  • @PapaZieg
    @PapaZieg 7 лет назад

    yeah i'm disapointed in darkside not draining. I love Dark Knight but kinda lost the challenge in playing it. I'm still going to main it cause it's fun but your thoughts are mine exactly on the skill changes in 4.0. Great video man.

  • @zerosolis6664
    @zerosolis6664 7 лет назад +3

    All three tanks are amazing if played right. To those who struggle with the beast gauge, I really don't know what to tell you. Play some action RPGs and maybe you'll learn the gauges. it's not hard. I don't know why people won't just optimize and learn the jobs where they are instead of first bitching about what's "wrong" with it before anything else. That is the wrong mentality to have.

    • @nonskiwun
      @nonskiwun 7 лет назад +1

      That's basically how things work though people initially complain about s*** rather than learning the differences because things don't play exactly as they used to people automatically assume they're better or worse rather than just learning where they are in the state of the game and playing them accordingly. I have always been one of those roll with the punches kind of players things change I may not necessarily agree with the changes but I learned how to use the changes in my play style and then when things change again I learned them again MMO's are constantly evolving animal and I always try to stay on or ahead of the Curve .you're absolutely right though

  • @UmbreonMessiah
    @UmbreonMessiah 7 лет назад

    Your bars confuse me, sir @_@

  • @PunkFiddler
    @PunkFiddler 7 лет назад

    to be fair, overpower requires TP(which fuels all of WAR skills) and is conal. i guess the damage nerf to unleashed is just fair as the other 2... well WAR even more, either requires beast gauge to use steel cyclone/decimate when a DRK could just simply unleashed abyssal drain all day long and be done with it.

  • @senras7130
    @senras7130 3 года назад +1

    lol

  • @MoonDasher07734
    @MoonDasher07734 7 лет назад

    Only thing I dont like about SE for 4.0, is they memed the S tier/ A+ tier jobs in content ( War and Sch ) and overtuned lots of jobs

  • @TimbowYo
    @TimbowYo 7 лет назад

    Unleash was OP in low level dungeons, 1st on act on mass pull, every time, the nerf is ok

    • @XenosysVex
      @XenosysVex  7 лет назад +8

      it wasnt any stronger than overpower. didnt need to be nerfed

  • @sasaki8765
    @sasaki8765 7 лет назад +1

    The way you think of the 3 tank invulns is really silly. Hallowed ground in the current ex primals is easily the best, and in general Hallowed ground is the best outside of everyone being in voice chat for making calls. Hallowed ground is simply the easiest one for your party to work around. No healer that you don't know well, or isn't in voice chat is going to let you go to 1 hp.
    Hallowed also allows you to take 2 stormsplitters on Susano without taking another debuff, meaning you can negate a bunch of tank-swaps.

    • @XenosysVex
      @XenosysVex  7 лет назад +15

      No, that isnt always the case, its fight specific and more times than not holmgang is best. Susano is a rare case in the sense that when you use hollowed you do not recieve the debuff. This is different in ARR and HW. if they continue this trend Hollowed value will increase, but the more times in a fight you can use a cd the better. Also, you should not want to keep the boss the entire time. you should aim for tank swaps to use all of the cds between you and your co tank. keeping the boss the entire time while the OT just sits there with all their cds available is fucking stupid. Also all my opinions are based on communication and decent players with a brain, trying to justify an argument because its good in a pug with no voice chat is moronic and not applicable in an optimal situation

    • @wtafwasthat
      @wtafwasthat 7 лет назад +1

      Xenosys Vex This I why I watch your videos & make my friends watch them who Tank. I'm in no way trying to kiss his ass if that's how people see it but I watch a lot of videos trying to be the best DRK & if you want to be the best you learn from the best. Also the reason I leveled WAR. Keep up the good work man love the videos & your POV on Tanking in general.

  • @amak1131
    @amak1131 7 лет назад

    They REALLY dumbed down this class without giving any room to grow imo. Seems like the dropped the ball with DRK along with many other classes.

  • @govisly
    @govisly 7 лет назад

    At first, Dark arts sound effect was epic. Now I find it irritating and hilarious

  • @angellopez691
    @angellopez691 7 лет назад

    sucks playing it with a controller

  • @skcans
    @skcans Год назад

    lol