I have been your viewer since many days, the best part of all your videos is statistical data and simplicity.. extensive research, best presentation and key topics are your USPs..
Thank you very much. I am glad you like my work. It's a lot easier for me to learn with numbers but believe it, it's very difficult to convince someone with data if he/she doesn't want to believe in it. I'm glad you and I speak the same language.
Thank you very much, I learnt it from you to play along with the numbers. I am planning to invest in one of the gilt funds whose Macaulay Duration (in yrs) is 7.53, would it work? I believe gilt fund primarily invest in long term government securities/ bonds
For the past couple of years, I have been following your video. Your contents are well researched and well presented. I am learning a lot from your contents. Kindly share Video on best Debt funds.
Right video at the right time. I just started shifting towards sbi megnum gilt and sbi long duration funds just to play interest rate. Been waiting for this opportunity since 2020...
Hi. Sir. Please suggest where to invest a lumpsum, and through an STP, create wealth by doing an SIP to equity based funds based on our risk appettite.
Is it still a good time to start investing in long-duration debt mutual funds or would the expected rate cut have been factored in by now? I am looking to invest just for 5-6 months
Hi Shankar, great and very informative video! One question: is my understanding correct that when repo rate reduces, the bond yields also reduce ie they are directly proportional? If indeed they are directly proportional, then at 13:13 in the video (Kotak MF sensitivity scenario) why do we see that a repo rate cut of 0.75 will lead to better yields when compared to rate cut of 0.5? (ie inversely proportional relationship between repo rate and bond yields). Looking forward to your response. Thanks!
Sir, invested in Nippon India Lakshya fund,What will be the right time to switch to short term fund? At time when rate cut cycle ends or to be continued for 5 years? Which redeem option is profitable? Thanks for your video.
This is fund for retirement planning , meaning 9 to 10% CAGR over 15 to 20 years above. If using as tactical then you have to wait for rates to begin down & reach bottom & start move up meaning be watchful of repo & NAVs. ( May take 3 to 5 years approximately)
Modi has made debt and gold fund investments less attractive by removing tax benefits on them . At least , debt / gold funds should have some tax efficiency like equity funds .
Sir Very nice video.i saw three times . I have 2 questions 1 i have invested in 7.25 CS BOND 2063( 40 YRS GOVERNMENT SEC) for retirement instead of lic pension plan .what will effect on decreasing int rate by 1 percent . Should i lock cap appreciation in 2 yrs n reinvest . 2 i have got 30 lakh by maturing fd in bajaj fin. What should I do (A) So for same (40 yrs bond) (B) 10 to 15 yrs govt bond (3) Long term debt fund like ( icici long term debt fund) 4 dynamic bond fund One more thing i did not know the liquidity of these fund Thanks
Glad you liked it. Statistically, there has to be a correlation between Indian equities & long duration bond funds. I don't have any numbers but in my view, causality is the bigger question
Hey Shankar! Great content as always, I had just started building some positions using gilt mfs. I am not exactly clear on the 10% taxation part and what is a 'listed bond'. I was able to locate the article you show as a screenshot but do you have any resources where I can read up and understand more about the debt investments that are taxed at a favourable 10% ?
@@shankarnath So basically on a 7.5% G-Sec bond if someone additionally makes a gain of 3.5% due to bond price increase (when tax rate cut happens in future) then 10% tax rate on LTCG will only be on capital gain while Interest income will continue to be taxed at tax slab rate. Given this weighted tax for a 30% slab person would be around 24% in place of 30%.
Very good information, thank you Shankar Nath. What about the Govt bonds scheme of NPS? Do you think, they too will rise? And is it prudent to cut down some equity exposure and move towards scheme in G in NPS?
Thank you! I can't be certain w/o knowing the maturity of Class G bonds within the NPS but a couple years back when I was researching it, I did notice that most fund managers then had opted for long duration. If it's the same case now i.e. the constituents are long duration GILTS, then Class G is likely to give good returns.
@@jishnu18I just checked the LIC Tier 1 - G scheme returns, returns of 19-20% both in 2014 and 2016. And the top 5 holdings are long term gilts. So I think, NPS too will return handsomely well if the scenario plays out.
Hello. Gilt funds are debt funds that invest primarily in government securities. Yes, these can work but pls ensure they are long duration. There can be short duration gilts funds too
I'll have to circle back on this one as I haven't come across any news or research where a fund manager has given an accurate estimate of either the rate cut or the returns.
@shankarnath So basically on a 7.5% G-Sec bond if someone additionally makes a gain of 3.5% due to bond price increase (when tax rate cut happens in future) then 10% tax rate on LTCG will only be on capital gain while Interest income will continue to be taxed at tax slab rate. Given this weighted tax for a 30% slab person would be around 24% in place of 30%. Moreover to be able to get this capital gain I need to buy bond either at discounted price (which is not possible now), or to buy either from primary and secondary market and exit before maturity to get any capital gains. For this to happen someone should buy at-least 2030 maturing bond so that it has enough time to maturity?
@@shankarnath ok, may be the proposition is not that attractive firstly since interest income of major chunk will continue to be taxed at tax slab and secondly if any capital gains are there they be be hard to realize if not bought at discounted price since the liquidity is very low in secondary market for these instruments and buy-sell spread is quite wide
You suggest buying listed long duration bonds instead of long duration debt funds in order to reduce the tax outgo. Are these listed bonds sufficiently liquid and will we be able to find buyers when we have to offload them?
Shankar sir, understood but never invested in Bonds, can you suggest bond names and the apps/websites I can invest in 5 year, 10 year and 15 year bonds?
Hi Sankar, it's superb information for individual investors. I have an additional request, a video on best Bond investment platform, what are best bonds, how to invest bond for 1-2 years
Good video shankar.. Though i invest in equity and MF am yet to try bonds.. Pls suggest some specific bonds to invest.. Does m stock offer bonds.. If not which platform do you recommend
Thank you! 1. I don't invest in bonds either. Infact, I didn't know listed bonds were taxed at 10% before this video (although I had read it somewhere but didn't pay attention to it then). Perhaps I too should try investing in bonds. 2. With re: platform, there are tons of them. Please try "invest in bonds india" on Google search for multiple options. Bonds can also be bought from your trading account
Related to this.. if there are rate cuts happening sooner or later, can we book long term fd asap.. higest rates on fd ( government sector) is around 7.5 to 8 percent...
The theory is sound. If bond yields are going to go down, then booking an FD now should be better than doing it 1 year later. One doesn't need to look beyond 2021, 2022 when fixed deposits were sub-6%
One more excellent video, honestly I am confused between listed bonds vs gilt funds because most listed bonds have very low liquidity, do you think it’s better to bear tax pain & go with gilt funds?
Thanks. Apologies, I have no views on this as I have not invested in listed bonds myself. But curious to know --- when you say very low liquidity, have you come across a situation where selling 2-5 lakhs on bonds has been a problem? I mean: want to understand the intensity of liquidity .. my definition of liquidity will be very different from an institutions.
@@shankarnath yes it’s a problem. For example-SBI long duration bond fund’s 50% exposure is in 7.3%-2053 bond which is ~700 cr position but on most days the traded volume is 1k or near 1 lakh total traded amount, that’s why I said liquidity is very low. Almost all gilt/long duration bond fund’s underlying positions have similar trading volumes, so I preferred to stay with the mutual fund as they can easily handle redemption from their available cash
Sir is it a good idea to buy 5 lakh Gsec and keep it till interest rates become maximum lower and sell it when it slowly increasing without waiting for maturity?
In my opinion, this can be done. The principle of lowering-interest-rising-bond-prices works in such a case. The longer the duration (e.g. a 9-11 year GSec) will be most suited to play this.
@@shankarnath ok but we dont have an idea where to what to buy how to diversify the lumpsum or diversification even needed etc. Could you help us on this. Bond market completely under shade for me...
SN, It would be great if you extend your research expertise & data analysis application to target maturity funds. I feel it's a unique opportunity for retailers to invest now in Long Duration TMF with lowest risk & double debit returns returns when gains peak out. Kindly explain & expand. Thanks very much.
make a video like if u have lumpsum 30-50 lakh then how to invest wisely, my example store the fund in liquid fund then use stp method to invest monthly like that, discuss more ideas on this topic
For the past couple of years, I have been following your video. Your contents are well researched and well presented. I am learning a lot from your contents. Kindly share Video on best Debt funds.
Dear Shankar, thanks for the great video. Please correct if my understanding is right. Since the bond prices are expected to go up. Its better to buy them now and sell let’s say in 1 year.
@@shankarnath Great. I think the trick would be to sell the bonds before the interest rates start going up. are bonds easily tradable in secondary market
Shankar, what do you think about actively managed gilt funds? Do you think the fund managers of big AUM gilt funds can provide good returns by strategically managing duration?
I really don't have any views on that because now that I have this knowledge, I don't rely on just fund managers to do the thinking for me. For instance -- predicting interest rates are going down, most fund managers and I will be heavy on long duration bonds. But when the cycle is turning - without waiting for what the fund manager is upto - I would move to shorter durations.
Thanks for great content sir. As you said in last time, i tried to follow corporate news in moneycontrol. But it filled with huge contents and lost in that way. Can you explain way to follow corporate announcements.
Insightful and easy to consume information. Thank you! Would you say a Dynamic Bond fund (most have already pivoted to longer durations) be a better way to play it for someone that wants the money in debt for a longer (3Yr-ish) duration?
Most welcome 🙌 ... I don't have a preference for one category of debt MF over another i.e. dynamic versus medium vs 10Y constant vs long duration. I'm more keen on the constituents' duration and if the maturities are on the longer side, then this setup can be tested on them. I'll prefer to go scheme by scheme rather than category by category
In my view you keep faith in fund manager when you select the dynamic bond for rebalnced returns but in other gilt products you have the responsibility to manage with markets. Thanks.
Sir, I checked the niftyindices website to know the data of various indices like it's return, PE Ratio etc. But, sir vha par last 5 years ka to data mil jata hai Monthly reports mein but last 15-20 years ka data nhi milta. I also searched in the historical data section, usmein vo open & close price to show karta hai but year on year percentage change nhi show karta. Can you tell how can I find year on year data of all the indices.
That's strange. I've been doing this for more than 5 years, been extracting data from 01.04.2005 onwards for most indicies. Please send me a screen recording of what you are doing. You can load it on a drive and paste the link in the comments
@@shankarnath Sir, based on your video, should we invest in long duration debt fund like HDFC long duration debt fund or good to buy bonds directly ftom RBI through RDG account? Pls advise.
Hi Shankar, as always appreciate your content. During your ET money days, looking at you I had invested in ETMoney mutual funds Shield and Stable portfolio which predominantly good share will go to Debt funds which for me I'm riding at 8% and 10% CAGR respectively (however ETmoney is doing ok today) . Could you please create one video on Debentures vs Debt fund ?
Sir what happened today in JTL industry,,stock is down 20% today,,,is there any issue from management side,,because as far as I know there is no issue in balance sheet
@@wealthwisdomwithCARajshree I am doing PPF investment for past 4 Year, so will this impact interest rate go below 7.1% ? PPF will also can be considered as a long term debt fund right so.
I'm guessing a rate cut will have some impact on short duration bonds. I haven't analysed it, if you find something worthwhile pls do share. Curious to know
Please share the bond calculator to understand effect of interest rate on it? Where can we see the long term listed bonds with their details to take a 1-1.5yr bet?
Very insightful video. Since I have never invested in bond related instruments, can you help guide on should I invest on direct bond or MF related to bond and if its MF can you please suggest some good MF. Thx
Sir ,Please clarify , many thanks. I have Equity small cap fund 1000 units @ 148.75 NAV, , purchased 1 year ago , now current NAV is Rs.255 , If I sell all 1000 units, how I much I have to pay Income tax ? Is my calculation is correct ? Profit = (1000*255) -(1000*148.75) =Rs.106250 , Income tax is Rs.625
Hi, I myself use a chartered accountant to figure these things out as tax is not my strong suite. May I advise you to do the same, atleast am not the right person to comment on this
Pls click on www.nseindia.com/market-data/bonds-traded-in-capital-market and do a descending order sort on the last column (maturity date). The first entry after the sort will be NHIT expiring on 14-Nov-2047
HI...Have a question. form secondary market. I purchase a NHPC Tax free bond having a Face Value of Rs 1000 for Rs 1030 with coupon rate of 9% PA. I receive the 3 interest payments in the interim. The bond matures post 3 years and I am redeemed FV of Rs 1000. Now since the interest is tax free I will claim IT benefit on interest as exempt income. Can I also claim the LTCG loss ( purchase price Less redemption price = Rs 1030-1000 IE Rs 30.
n the past there were few Mutual Funds scheme which got closed or didnt worked Many youtubers influecners are making videos on mutual fund scheme but no one is telling us the history of mutual Funds in india like in year 1999-2000 many mutual fund scheme closed and many people money were gone almost to nil we want a video on those mutual funds why the fund got closed and how does this all happen how do we will get to know about when a mutual fund will close their scheme for example- Reliance natural resources Fund Do make a video on this and share some knowledge which others wont thnakyou
Please guide whether to go with long term debt mutual fund or GSecs directly. Also my understanding is that the interest gain is taxed at normal rates and only the capital gain is taxed differently. A sample calculation with the overall returns considering both can help. Thanks
So one should invest in debt fund in lumpsum immediately or after election or after RBI reduce rates may be after august /september ? Which will give best return? @shankar nath
Thank you very much. Kindly comment more often -- a few years back, I was at a retreat when the guru there said something that has since then become a guiding principle. He said: "if you haven't appreciated a thousand people in your lifetime and if you haven't done enough deeds to have received a thousand applauses -- then what life have you lived?"
Honestly I have not been able to understand debt funds and the ‘timing’ aspect of investing into them. Last year there was a lot of negative commentary about the tax treatment of debt funds to add to my nervousness. That said- I have held some positions in a dynamic bond fund from two different AMCs, merely as a hedge against my equity MFs. They seem to have woken up off late , but I do hope to improve my understanding of debt funds and am counting on a ‘for dummies’ version from you Shankar 🙏
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Sir please disclose your portfolio size and amount of wealth you have made through your investment journey Curious to know how such knowledgeable person can make money in market
For those who haven't understood it: Repo rate is the interest rate that government is giving. If Repo rate is greater than Bond rate, bond rates fall cause I am getting more return on a safer asset If Repo rate is lesser than Bond rate, Bond rates rise cause I am getting more for my buck, via risk reward
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I have been your viewer since many days, the best part of all your videos is statistical data and simplicity.. extensive research, best presentation and key topics are your USPs..
Thank you very much. I am glad you like my work. It's a lot easier for me to learn with numbers but believe it, it's very difficult to convince someone with data if he/she doesn't want to believe in it. I'm glad you and I speak the same language.
Thank you very much, I learnt it from you to play along with the numbers. I am planning to invest in one of the gilt funds whose Macaulay Duration (in yrs) is 7.53, would it work? I believe gilt fund primarily invest in long term government securities/ bonds
For the past couple of years, I have been following your video. Your contents are well researched and well presented. I am learning a lot from your contents. Kindly share Video on best Debt funds.
Right video at the right time. I just started shifting towards sbi megnum gilt and sbi long duration funds just to play interest rate. Been waiting for this opportunity since 2020...
Whats the tax rate applicable for those funds?
Me bhi Bhavsar, where r u from?
@@vaibhav-bhavsar Ahmedabad Gujarat
@@milavbhavsar1189 Nashik, Maharashtra
Hi , which debt funds i can invest. Please suggest
Have been watching content of Shankar since he used to make videos for ET Money...His content is always informative, concise and clear.
Happy to know you like my work
Hi. Sir. Please suggest where to invest a lumpsum, and through an STP, create wealth by doing an SIP to equity based funds based on our risk appettite.
Pls work with a financial advisor on this. There are many questions that need to be answered before taking such a financial decision
@shankarnath there's none better than you, sir. Request you to create a dedicated video.
Is it still a good time to start investing in long-duration debt mutual funds or would the expected rate cut have been factored in by now? I am looking to invest just for 5-6 months
If I understand correctly if the reporate goes up the bond will be available at higher premium
You have given quality financial content on youtube. This channel is underrated. Appreciate the hardwork!
Thank you so much 😀
Sir why is my Power finance Bond is showing loss of 36000?
Hi Shankar, great and very informative video! One question: is my understanding correct that when repo rate reduces, the bond yields also reduce ie they are directly proportional? If indeed they are directly proportional, then at 13:13 in the video (Kotak MF sensitivity scenario) why do we see that a repo rate cut of 0.75 will lead to better yields when compared to rate cut of 0.5? (ie inversely proportional relationship between repo rate and bond yields). Looking forward to your response. Thanks!
Sir, invested in Nippon India Lakshya fund,What will be the right time to switch to short term fund? At time when rate cut cycle ends or to be continued for 5 years? Which redeem option is profitable? Thanks for your video.
This is fund for retirement planning , meaning 9 to 10% CAGR over 15 to 20 years above. If using as tactical then you have to wait for rates to begin down & reach bottom & start move up meaning be watchful of repo & NAVs. ( May take 3 to 5 years approximately)
Modi has made debt and gold fund investments less attractive by removing tax benefits on them . At least , debt / gold funds should have some tax efficiency like equity funds .
Yes
Time to remove him
For your information he's the one who bought ltcg in stock market along with stt
@@acclimatized8838 true
"You Either Die a Hero or Live Long Enough to See Yourself Become the Villain"
This perfectly matches Modi.
Sir
Very nice video.i saw three times . I have 2 questions
1 i have invested in 7.25 CS BOND 2063( 40 YRS GOVERNMENT SEC) for retirement instead of lic pension plan .what will effect on decreasing int rate by 1 percent . Should i lock cap appreciation in 2 yrs n reinvest .
2 i have got 30 lakh by maturing fd in bajaj fin. What should I do
(A) So for same (40 yrs bond)
(B) 10 to 15 yrs govt bond
(3) Long term debt fund like ( icici long term debt fund)
4 dynamic bond fund
One more thing i did not know the liquidity of these fund
Thanks
I was struggling to understand Bond Pricing during CFA....but this vedio has helped me to understand the topic better.
Glad you found it helpful 🙌
Sir, from which website do you check the data of Indices like its Returns, PE ratio etc of last 20-25 years.
@@bookscutshort6648 niftyindices.com
@@shankarnath thanks sir
Thanks Shankar excellent video . Just 1 question is there a co-relation of the returns of the long term bond fund with domestic equity markets ?
Glad you liked it. Statistically, there has to be a correlation between Indian equities & long duration bond funds. I don't have any numbers but in my view, causality is the bigger question
Hey Shankar! Great content as always, I had just started building some positions using gilt mfs.
I am not exactly clear on the 10% taxation part and what is a 'listed bond'. I was able to locate the article you show as a screenshot but do you have any resources where I can read up and understand more about the debt investments that are taxed at a favourable 10% ?
Thank you! Pls read: primeinvestor.in/how-are-g-secs-bonds-and-ncds-taxed/
@@shankarnath So basically on a 7.5% G-Sec bond if someone additionally makes a gain of 3.5% due to bond price increase (when tax rate cut happens in future) then 10% tax rate on LTCG will only be on capital gain while Interest income will continue to be taxed at tax slab rate. Given this weighted tax for a 30% slab person would be around 24% in place of 30%.
Can I buy direct long term bonds from RBI portal. Can I sell them in open market
Yes
Which is better Gilt fund or long duration fund (i.e., Nippon Nivesh Lakshya Fund)?
I would pay for this type of content! Thank you, Shankar!
Glad you liked it. Most welcome 🙌
Sir, could you enlighten us about market link debentures ( MLD ) . It is possible to make any investment strategy
Thanks for the suggestion
Very good information, thank you Shankar Nath. What about the Govt bonds scheme of NPS? Do you think, they too will rise? And is it prudent to cut down some equity exposure and move towards scheme in G in NPS?
Thank you! I can't be certain w/o knowing the maturity of Class G bonds within the NPS but a couple years back when I was researching it, I did notice that most fund managers then had opted for long duration. If it's the same case now i.e. the constituents are long duration GILTS, then Class G is likely to give good returns.
@@Maknahar Thanks for the suggestion
@@jishnu18I just checked the LIC Tier 1 - G scheme returns, returns of 19-20% both in 2014 and 2016. And the top 5 holdings are long term gilts. So I think, NPS too will return handsomely well if the scenario plays out.
Thank you so much
Where i can buy these govt long term bonds which has 10% tax ?
Most welcome. Pls search on Google, you'll find a bunch of platforms there
Hi Shankar, will gilt funds also serve the same purpose?
Hello. Gilt funds are debt funds that invest primarily in government securities. Yes, these can work but pls ensure they are long duration. There can be short duration gilts funds too
Sir, can you please advise how and where to buy listed bonds?
Hello, please do a search on Google. Many platforms will show up
Shall i choose Liquid fund or Gilt fund ? Plz advise
Gilts are long duration debt instruments
@@shankarnath Sir, which will be give more return Gilt funds vs Long duration fund, in case of rate cut and how much? Thanks
I'll have to circle back on this one as I haven't come across any news or research where a fund manager has given an accurate estimate of either the rate cut or the returns.
Love your Videos Shankar, they can be easily prescribed as part of any MBA finance course.Keep up the good work
Thank you so much! I try to make them the way I would love to understand the topic .. glad you like the presentation & content 🙌
@shankarnath So basically on a 7.5% G-Sec bond if someone additionally makes a gain of 3.5% due to bond price increase (when tax rate cut happens in future) then 10% tax rate on LTCG will only be on capital gain while Interest income will continue to be taxed at tax slab rate. Given this weighted tax for a 30% slab person would be around 24% in place of 30%.
Moreover to be able to get this capital gain I need to buy bond either at discounted price (which is not possible now), or to buy either from primary and secondary market and exit before maturity to get any capital gains. For this to happen someone should buy at-least 2030 maturing bond so that it has enough time to maturity?
Yes, that's my understanding from articles I've read but since I'm not good at taxation, please verify it with your tax advisor.
@@shankarnath ok, may be the proposition is not that attractive firstly since interest income of major chunk will continue to be taxed at tax slab and secondly if any capital gains are there they be be hard to realize if not bought at discounted price since the liquidity is very low in secondary market for these instruments and buy-sell spread is quite wide
Buy g sec via tier 2 nps😂
Considering taxation, exit load, expense ratio , etc. Please guide.
Here I have mentioned the criterion
You suggest buying listed long duration bonds instead of long duration debt funds in order to reduce the tax outgo. Are these listed bonds sufficiently liquid and will we be able to find buyers when we have to offload them?
It's difficult to generalize this as different bonds might have a different liquidity profile
Shankar sir, understood but never invested in Bonds, can you suggest bond names and the apps/websites I can invest in 5 year, 10 year and 15 year bonds?
Please do a search on Google .. you'll receive dozens of results on platforms and bond options
Hi Sankar, it's superb information for individual investors. I have an additional request, a video on best Bond investment platform, what are best bonds, how to invest bond for 1-2 years
Thanks for the suggestion
Highly Underrated channel. Many, Many Thanks & deep gratitude
Much appreciated! 🙌
Will it be a good idea to invest in scheme g of nps tier 1?
Sir LTGILT BEES IS GOOD THAN GILT MUTUAL FUND?
Good video shankar.. Though i invest in equity and MF am yet to try bonds.. Pls suggest some specific bonds to invest.. Does m stock offer bonds.. If not which platform do you recommend
Thank you!
1. I don't invest in bonds either. Infact, I didn't know listed bonds were taxed at 10% before this video (although I had read it somewhere but didn't pay attention to it then). Perhaps I too should try investing in bonds.
2. With re: platform, there are tons of them. Please try "invest in bonds india" on Google search for multiple options. Bonds can also be bought from your trading account
Thanks shankar.. On a lighter note.. Why the waistcoat.. Look more trendy❤
Related to this.. if there are rate cuts happening sooner or later, can we book long term fd asap.. higest rates on fd ( government sector) is around 7.5 to 8 percent...
The theory is sound. If bond yields are going to go down, then booking an FD now should be better than doing it 1 year later. One doesn't need to look beyond 2021, 2022 when fixed deposits were sub-6%
@@shankarnath thanks for the quick response... Your confirmation and analysis helps alot.. 🙏
One more excellent video, honestly I am confused between listed bonds vs gilt funds because most listed bonds have very low liquidity, do you think it’s better to bear tax pain & go with gilt funds?
Thanks. Apologies, I have no views on this as I have not invested in listed bonds myself. But curious to know --- when you say very low liquidity, have you come across a situation where selling 2-5 lakhs on bonds has been a problem? I mean: want to understand the intensity of liquidity .. my definition of liquidity will be very different from an institutions.
@@shankarnath yes it’s a problem. For example-SBI long duration bond fund’s 50% exposure is in 7.3%-2053 bond which is ~700 cr position but on most days the traded volume is 1k or near 1 lakh total traded amount, that’s why I said liquidity is very low. Almost all gilt/long duration bond fund’s underlying positions have similar trading volumes, so I preferred to stay with the mutual fund as they can easily handle redemption from their available cash
@@shankarnathWhat would be your definition of liquidity?
very nice expalntion with statical data's. pls update evey quarter.
Thanks for the suggestion
This is brilliant... Reminded me of economics classes in CA foundation...
Immensely meaningful and informative
Glad you found it useful and informative
Sir is it a good idea to buy 5 lakh Gsec and keep it till interest rates become maximum lower and sell it when it slowly increasing without waiting for maturity?
In my opinion, this can be done. The principle of lowering-interest-rising-bond-prices works in such a case. The longer the duration (e.g. a 9-11 year GSec) will be most suited to play this.
@@shankarnath ok but we dont have an idea where to what to buy how to diversify the lumpsum or diversification even needed etc. Could you help us on this. Bond market completely under shade for me...
As the topic is new to you, I'll suggest you work with a financial advisor/mutual fund agent for this
Planning to do STP from SBI AMC. Please suggest source fund (debt funds to park amount)
Liquid fund or ultra short term fund
@@drkvenu ultra short term is less than 1 year i think
So liquid fund
SN, It would be great if you extend your research expertise & data analysis application to target maturity funds. I feel it's a unique opportunity for retailers to invest now in Long Duration TMF with lowest risk & double debit returns returns when gains peak out. Kindly explain & expand. Thanks very much.
Thanks for the suggestion
make a video like if u have lumpsum 30-50 lakh then how to invest wisely, my example store the fund in liquid fund then use stp method to invest monthly like that, discuss more ideas on this topic
Thanks for the suggestion
+1
Very informative video...just wondering if conservative hybrid fund would also behave in such a manner due to its weightage in debt funds?
Thanks! Again, its the same question -- is the debt in the conservative hybrid fund short duration or long duration?
@shankarnath The debt part is long term with 16 years as average maturity.
@@Pp-great Cool. Then you have the necessary data to decipher the information
I wanted take 1-O-1 advisory service but I am not able to locate the link. Can you please help?
Hi, you can email me at hello@beginnersbuck.com
@@shankarnath Thank you. I will send an email.
@@shankarnath I sent you an email as suggested by you. I hope you have gotten that.
For the past couple of years, I have been following your video. Your contents are well researched and well presented. I am learning a lot from your contents. Kindly share Video on best Debt funds.
Thank you for the appreciation .. and the suggestion
Could you guide me via articles or any sources to know about listed bonds
Hi, just type 'listed bonds in india' on Google search. You'll get tons of results
Can you please give some examples of listed bonds which attract 10% tax? Does bharat bonds fall into that category?
May I request you to run a quick search on Google, dozens of platforms with hundreds of listed bonds will pop out
@@shankarnath tried it sir.. unfortunately, i see platforms to buy bonds but not sell. So little confused how to sell them.
@@kranthikandey1216 You can always write to 3-4 platform's customer service with your queries. Hope you have tried that route
Dear Shankar, thanks for the great video. Please correct if my understanding is right. Since the bond prices are expected to go up. Its better to buy them now and sell let’s say in 1 year.
Most welcome. Yes, that is correct. As interest rates go lower, bond prices rise.
@@shankarnath Great. I think the trick would be to sell the bonds before the interest rates start going up. are bonds easily tradable in secondary market
Nippon India nivesh lakshya fund has a maturity of 20-22 yrs
Thank you for all the valuable learning you give us. All your videos are gems Shankar
It's my pleasure
Can I invest lumpsum in long term bond fund? Or will it be risky like equity? Time horizon- 1-2years
1. Lumpsum investing is possible
2. It will be as risky/volatile as equities
Shankar, what do you think about actively managed gilt funds? Do you think the fund managers of big AUM gilt funds can provide good returns by strategically managing duration?
I really don't have any views on that because now that I have this knowledge, I don't rely on just fund managers to do the thinking for me. For instance -- predicting interest rates are going down, most fund managers and I will be heavy on long duration bonds. But when the cycle is turning - without waiting for what the fund manager is upto - I would move to shorter durations.
Thanks for great content sir. As you said in last time, i tried to follow corporate news in moneycontrol. But it filled with huge contents and lost in that way. Can you explain way to follow corporate announcements.
Most welcome. You can also try this : www.bseindia.com/corporates/ann.html
@@shankarnath Thanks for suggestions
Insightful and easy to consume information. Thank you! Would you say a Dynamic Bond fund (most have already pivoted to longer durations) be a better way to play it for someone that wants the money in debt for a longer (3Yr-ish) duration?
Most welcome 🙌 ... I don't have a preference for one category of debt MF over another i.e. dynamic versus medium vs 10Y constant vs long duration. I'm more keen on the constituents' duration and if the maturities are on the longer side, then this setup can be tested on them. I'll prefer to go scheme by scheme rather than category by category
In my view you keep faith in fund manager when you select the dynamic bond for rebalnced returns but in other gilt products you have the responsibility to manage with markets. Thanks.
Sir, I checked the niftyindices website to know the data of various indices like it's return, PE Ratio etc.
But, sir vha par last 5 years ka to data mil jata hai Monthly reports mein but last 15-20 years ka data nhi milta.
I also searched in the historical data section, usmein vo open & close price to show karta hai but year on year percentage change nhi show karta.
Can you tell how can I find year on year data of all the indices.
That's strange. I've been doing this for more than 5 years, been extracting data from 01.04.2005 onwards for most indicies. Please send me a screen recording of what you are doing. You can load it on a drive and paste the link in the comments
Sir, so its good to invest in long term govt bond or debt funds?, can you give an example pls
I'm sorry, I didn't understand the example bit. Can you pls clarify?
@@shankarnath Sir, based on your video, should we invest in long duration debt fund like HDFC long duration debt fund or good to buy bonds directly ftom RBI through RDG account? Pls advise.
Hi Shankar, as always appreciate your content. During your ET money days, looking at you I had invested in ETMoney mutual funds Shield and Stable portfolio which predominantly good share will go to Debt funds which for me I'm riding at 8% and 10% CAGR respectively (however ETmoney is doing ok today) . Could you please create one video on Debentures vs Debt fund ?
Thanks for the suggestion
Which long term debt funds to invest in
Explore long duration or target maturity funds beyond 2030
Sir what happened today in JTL industry,,stock is down 20% today,,,is there any issue from management side,,because as far as I know there is no issue in balance sheet
Beyond what's been posted on X, I have no further information
So the PPF and other gov schemes interest will also be increased ?
Not sure, you might want to check the profile of bonds within the PPF and other government schemes.
They will go down
@@wealthwisdomwithCARajshree I am doing PPF investment for past 4 Year, so will this impact interest rate go below 7.1% ?
PPF will also can be considered as a long term debt fund right so.
Can short term bonds funds be subscribed instead to reap benefits of rate cut ?
I'm guessing a rate cut will have some impact on short duration bonds. I haven't analysed it, if you find something worthwhile pls do share. Curious to know
Please share the bond calculator to understand effect of interest rate on it?
Where can we see the long term listed bonds with their details to take a 1-1.5yr bet?
Kindly do a search on Google.com .. both i.e. calculator & platforms offering listed bonds with details are readily available.
I have seen this black magic myself! GSEC giving me 7% fixed return and appreciating another 7-8%
Very insightful video. Since I have never invested in bond related instruments, can you help guide on should I invest on direct bond or MF related to bond and if its MF can you please suggest some good MF. Thx
It is still worth investing in ICIC pru long term MF ????
Sir ,Please clarify , many thanks.
I have Equity small cap fund 1000 units @ 148.75 NAV, , purchased 1 year ago , now current NAV is Rs.255 , If I sell all 1000 units, how I much I have to pay Income tax ? Is my calculation is correct ?
Profit = (1000*255) -(1000*148.75) =Rs.106250 , Income tax is Rs.625
Hi, I myself use a chartered accountant to figure these things out as tax is not my strong suite. May I advise you to do the same, atleast am not the right person to comment on this
Can you suggest some schemes that fit your suggestion , listed debt funds that have 10% tax advantage and long duration
Pls click on www.nseindia.com/market-data/bonds-traded-in-capital-market and do a descending order sort on the last column (maturity date). The first entry after the sort will be NHIT expiring on 14-Nov-2047
Nifty GSec 2036 maturity can be option??
It is definitely a long duration debt instrument .. a portfolio of 3 G-Secs that are maturing between Jul 2035 & Jun 2036
Where do buy these bonds from
There are tons of platforms, a search on Google will show dozens of results
Shankar Nath ⭐ thank you 😊
Most welcome 🙌
Sir, great video. Please make video on nifty Alpha 50 index.
Thanks for the suggestion
very detailed and nicely illustrated.
Many thanks Rajeev! 🙌
Well researched content with lot of data points as always!! One question, please give some examples on listed bonds
Thank you. Some examples:
www.moneycontrol.com/fixed-income/bonds/listed-bonds/
www.wintwealth.com/bonds/listed-bonds/
www.capitalmarket.com/markets/Bonds/listed-bonds
@@shankarnath How do I invest in them and how do I choose amongs them. most look from private companies rather than government.
Kindly do a Google search on this query. Dozens of results will pop out from platforms that offer this facility incl. the process and other details
Sir is it a good time to invest in a hybrid fund hanving allocation of 22% in equities and rest in debt ?
Thank you for the effort as always. Gentle reminder on the request for the video to generate 1cr corpus by 2030😊
Thanks for the suggestion
Awesome content. Thank you Shankar
So nice of you
HI...Have a question. form secondary market. I purchase a NHPC Tax free bond having a Face Value of Rs 1000 for Rs 1030 with coupon rate of 9% PA. I receive the 3 interest payments in the interim. The bond matures post 3 years and I am redeemed FV of Rs 1000. Now since the interest is tax free I will claim IT benefit on interest as exempt income. Can I also claim the LTCG loss ( purchase price Less redemption price = Rs 1030-1000 IE Rs 30.
Sorry, I have no idea. You'll have to check with your tax advisor on this
All seasons bond fund takes care of the interest rate cycles right?
You might want to check the constituents and duration on the fund factsheet
n the past there were few Mutual Funds scheme which got closed or didnt worked Many youtubers influecners are making videos on mutual fund scheme but no one is telling us the history of mutual Funds in india like in year 1999-2000 many mutual fund scheme closed and many people money were gone almost to nil we want a video on those mutual funds why the fund got closed and how does this all happen how do we will get to know about when a mutual fund will close their scheme for example- Reliance natural resources Fund
Do make a video on this and share some knowledge which others wont thnakyou
What is maximum intrest can be for pledging stock
I didn't understand. Can you please rephrase it?
Interest range of pleding stock in year
5:15 mstock does not have DDPI nor it can do offline transfer shares from CDSL Easiest. Shoonya is also zero brokeage yet better at features.
Please guide whether to go with long term debt mutual fund or GSecs directly. Also my understanding is that the interest gain is taxed at normal rates and only the capital gain is taxed differently. A sample calculation with the overall returns considering both can help. Thanks
You should start making videos in easy to understand language
Thanks for the suggestion
So one should invest in debt fund in lumpsum immediately or after election or after RBI reduce rates may be after august /september ? Which will give best return? @shankar nath
Great and unique video
Glad you liked it
Great content. Pls make more of such videos. 💯👍✨
Thank you 🙌
A video on SWP for retiring people is requested
Thanks for the suggestion
I normally never comment on Videos, but this time I have to say this Video is a Gem!
Thank you very much. Kindly comment more often -- a few years back, I was at a retreat when the guru there said something that has since then become a guiding principle. He said: "if you haven't appreciated a thousand people in your lifetime and if you haven't done enough deeds to have received a thousand applauses -- then what life have you lived?"
Pls guide for safe govt bond
Government bonds come with sovereign guarantee
Honestly I have not been able to understand debt funds and the ‘timing’ aspect of investing into them. Last year there was a lot of negative commentary about the tax treatment of debt funds to add to my nervousness. That said- I have held some positions in a dynamic bond fund from two different AMCs, merely as a hedge against my equity MFs. They seem to have woken up off late , but I do hope to improve my understanding of debt funds and am counting on a ‘for dummies’ version from you Shankar 🙏
Your note to subscribe is lit ji.. ❤
Thank you very much
Great Video sir need of time
Thanks and welcome
What timing Shankar sir! Was just viewing your debt fund video on ET money earlier today 😄
It's all about RUclips algorithm bro ...if u search about some product in internet ,next day u will be bombarded with related products in RUclips, chrome everywhere😂😂
Sir please disclose your portfolio size and amount of wealth you have made through your investment journey Curious to know how such knowledgeable person can make money in market
May I know how this curiosity of knowing what I have made helps you?
For those who haven't understood it:
Repo rate is the interest rate that government is giving.
If Repo rate is greater than Bond rate, bond rates fall cause I am getting more return on a safer asset
If Repo rate is lesser than Bond rate, Bond rates rise cause I am getting more for my buck, via risk reward
Great content 👌
Thank you 🙌
These yields are gonna go down
Yes, that's the good news
Sir ji karna kya hai
very complex