Me 262 - Engine Fires & In-flight Restarts
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
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This lesson teaches you how to perform an in-flight restart for your engine after a flameout in the 262 as well as how to recover from an engine fire caused by a bad engine restart.
Comments and feedback are always welcome, so if this video helped you out hit the like button and let me know in the comments below. Cheers!
You have the voice, the manners and the discretion of a real life pilot.
Thanks Thomas, sometimes though the first time I talk to an Air Traffic Controller when I'm out flying their first response is..."who was that" LOL Their brains sometimes need to recalibrate when they hear my accent amongst all the Americans!
I’ll never forget the first time I tried to play this thing and promptly exploded my engines within 3 seconds after spawning in
I guarantee you you're not the first one to have that happen to them lol
What would I do without you, Req. :)
I'm sure the information would be out there scattered amongst the wide interwebz eventually ;-)
@@RequiemsACTL Sure but you're so concise and informative, not to mention pretty damn punctual with videos for new aircraft and easy to find.
(Plus I like that we're both expat Australasians, lol.)
I was stuck with both engines flamed out at about 1k on a practice sortie, and quickly googled your video for help. Because your instructions were so quick and concise, I managed to get no.1 fired back up by about treetop height and saved the flight. Thanks!
Glad it helped!
Wow thanks mate! The fact that it’s modelled and you can do it this way... just wow!
Yeah they've done a pretty good job with it for sure
You don't have to follow a this procedere. Once your engines go out, put your throttle all the way back, press ignition button and increase it slowly. You don't have to be at 300 kph, but you have to be below 4000m(depended on air pressure) that is correct. BUT the forward-slip to stop a fire is helpful, thanks.
Hey Scharfi, thanks for your feedback! That's good info to be aware of as slowing to 300 km/hr may not be the best technique in a combat area of course. I was just following the recommendations from a 262 manual :-)
I'm damn sure a lot of people will be glad of this little gem and, as ever, thanks mate!!
Thanks Rap, not that I wouldn't like to see a fire on the 262 after someone flames out in multiplayer if I'm flying Allied...but this should ease the pain for some people a little bit :-)
Thanks for uploading this content
Hey I'm happy to, I know there will be plenty of questions about this bird which is why I tried to get these videos covering it out ASAP.
Req, for what ever reason I’ve only been able to get horizontal trim working for the 262. However I have been unable to get the pitch trim functional, is it like the 190 with preset ground tabs? Or is a different key bind than vertical trim you’d find on a spit? Great video as always-Mat
The difference is that pitch trim infers you're using trim tabs on the elevator while if an airplane has horizontal stabiliser trim it moves the entire stabiliser not just a trim tab
Awesome!
Random question, I know a few things are automated in this game, but would the fuel really auto cut out in real life in this scenario?
Moving the throttle rapidly backwards in real life did cause flameouts, but the red fuel valve you see moving to the cutoff position is automatic as the flameout requires that (and turning off the fuel pump) as part of the emergency procedure when it occurs. So the game handles that portion for you.
@@RequiemsACTLcontinuing my curiosity, what would happen if a pilot failed to move the fuel lever to the cutoff position during a flameout?
If it was still in a position selected for an aft or forward fuel tank and the pump was on then fuel would still be being drawn from the tanks, so you could end up with fuel accumulation...imagine what could happen if you tried restarting a jet engine with way too much fuel to begin with LOL I don't think any fuel accumulation is modeled in this situation though.
The Air Combat Tutorial Library I wouldn’t assume it’s modeled as it’s set to auto handle the cutoff, but if you manage to become a firecracker next time your in the air that would be a great learning video!
Thanks for answering the question! I just love learning about this stuff
No worries! I did set myself on fire in this video in the restart but I didn't want to extend the fire for a long time because well you know...it tends to be unhealthy :-)
Do you know will the engines stay on if you hold the igniters switches in while descending fast while bring the engines closer to idle so they don't flame out? ANd is there a set lower recommended RPM to set the engines at while Boom and Zoom lower aircraft so you dont over speed into a Mach Tuck?
If you bring the throttles back smoothly enough you won't cause a flameout...but I imagine holding the igniters could help prevent one, or at least restart the engines quickly if they did for some reason. Avoiding mach tuck is situational and depends on your initial altitude and airspeed....so just pay attention to your dive angle and airspeed. If you start approaching that 1000km/hr mark ease up the dive angle and thrust.
Amazing video, but I think I might be doing something wrong.
When I hit the ignition, I see that temps spike to the red zone immediately and the engine cathes fire. I have automated mixture controll on. I think that might be the culprit here. When I do automated engine start, it manages fine, but it’s WAY slower than what you do here. Hense why I wanna learn it ;P
So which key bindings are important here? Guessing the Engine 1& 2Ignition for ME 262 and sepparate throttle controll. But what else? Do I need do something with the mixture? Which key binding do I sett for controlling fuel ?
Any help would be much appreciated :D
A-MA-ZING !!!!!!!.
do i also need to press the normal ignition switch too?
Why is opposite rudder used for putting out engine fires?
BiggieB Higher air mass flow on the affected side of the aircraft as you’re essentially pointing the side into the airflow increasing air pressure on that side thus increasing the chance of putting out the fire.
@@Clebbsi My intuition is failing me when I try to understand why that would increase airflow.
I wouldn't be too worried about if you go left or right, just do a forward slip and it should extinguish.
@@RequiemsACTL Does this work on the other planes?
@@biggieb8900 I assume: The larger cross section, paired with less streamlined shape would cause the oncoming airflow to lose a lot more velocity, become turbulent overall increasing pressure significantly on the windward side of the aircraft. Additionally and maybe even more importantly, making the flow turbulent significantly increases the energy of the airflow as opposed to laminar flow which i would imagine helps extinguish a fire aswell...somehow.
This is mostly some half-knowledge from atpl theory and physics studies but the fact of the matter is that fluid dymamics are hard and confusing so I could be absoloutely wrong here and honestly I hadn't heard of this technique before. In an airliner for example you have extinguishers and if all fails you make an emergency descent and land as soon as possible.
In smaller piston aircraft you would make an emergency descent and land as soon as possible in all cases. Sideslip would be used simply to help you lose altitude more quickly in this case.
How do you move the throtle to the cutoff potition i have tried everything and i can't get it to 0 % power
Not sure if you're still in the dark about this one. I was wondering how to do it too, but I figured it out with a bit of experimentation.
In the Me 262, if you press "e" (or whatever the engine start/stop is mapped to) while the engine is running, rather than stopping the engine automatically, it releases the throttle pawl for the selected engine, which allows you to throttle back below 15% to either stop the engine or attempt a restart.
It's vital you bring the throttle back to no more than about 1 or 2% when you attempt a restart. I tried it at 15% and, not surprisingly, the engine caught fire, with dire results!
Hope that helps :)
Press e to cutoff the selected engine (1 or 2) then it will let you put the throttle to zero
Wait a fucking minute, did they add manual engine starting to IL-2?!??!
Yeah it's like a quasi-manual start similar to what you have in the Flying Circus airplanes. So you need to set the mixture, RPM, and throttle before initiating the startup sequence. The 262 is a slightly different kettle of fish to startup.