How Do You Prefer to Suffer? Physically or Mentally? ~ Questions and Answers with Shunyamurti
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025
- This Q&A is taken from All’s Well That Ends Well: The Re-Marriage of Shakti and Shiva ~ Get all the teachings and guided meditations from this extraordinary retreat: bit.ly/all--well
Description: One of the main issues of life nowadays is coping with pain. The true nature of pain still escapes the understanding of the allopathic medical establishment, despite the advances in neuroscience, as the psychic and spiritual sources of suffering are not explored. Even the depth psychologists who recognize the psychosomatic origins of many kinds of pain do not grasp the full karmic and teleological dimensions of the phenomenon. But all ministers of religions know that suffering can motivate not only despair but also maturation, acceptance, repentance, conversion, and ultimate surrender to the grace of God.
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I Am Consciousness Awareness passing through observing the pain of matter while seeking wisdom, coupled with not getting emotionally invested and/or involved to avoid the suffering of the matter. With that shared, the body is the vehicle, the spirit is the engine, and the soul is the drive. Therefore, Align, Balance, and Center the three; ABC. Your greatest Source or Protection is unconditional love. Operate within unconditional love, by having loving positive thoughts, emotions, feelings, and intentions. Alongside, making godly decisions.
Thank you this is exactly what I'm experiencing right now. I've been allowing the pain to express itself through the body while recognizing I'm not the body (person). So I'm both observing the pain and trying to glean the higher purpose of it as it's happening. I think some of it is sanskara residue and some is information. I think the information is pointing me to the source of the cycle of trauma so I can rise above it and ultimately end the cycle once and for all.
Well. That's completely different than the teachings in Christianity which simply explain that God became flesh so to be able to love and be loved in return. That's the problem with this whole new age thinking. They are trying to reinvent the wheel but are missing a few spokes.
Thank you! Stoics differentiated the pain from the suffering and considered pain as "objective" phenomenon and often positive by its nature whereas the suffering considered as our reaction on pain, as opinion about the pain. That's why they recommended to make a choice between suffering or indifference to pain.
Ultimately..to know that we do not know, to me, is the key that unlocks the door to knowing and perhaps in that moment all is revealed, but I do not know.
Circular logic.
@ Everything is circular..the Earth, the Cosmos and when one’s conscious increases one realizes that ”circular”is embed within a spiral whose apex is reportedly the “Absolute.”
So in traveling a path of love, one’s “knowing” only encompasses what has been brought to consciousness..
..thus..”I do not know,” is the relative truth with respect to the Truth.
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Thank you Ash for the excellent question! Blessings.... Om Shanti
No pain no gain right
Psychosomatic pain versus physical pain that is caused by exterior cause
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This is what Mary Baker Eddy's message was all about (Christian Science)
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Shunyamurti sir, can you please talk more about the present political and economical conditions of the globe. It’s always nice to hear things from your prospective and knowledge.
I have a second question: is rebirth and hierarchy in soul level exist.
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Nobody knows how divine re-distribution takes place but what we can know is that the purpose of life is love and live as good as we can and take Jesus as our role model.
People bring trauma into relationships which the Other is unaware of and if they transgress boundaries unwittingly catalyse a reaction due to triggering that trauma. People with Aspergers of course recognise no Limit on Self nor Boundary of Other and do this all the time eg Musk and his Dr Strangelove salute.
I wonder whether you look at your reflection when brushing your teeth. I look funny when I brush my teeth. Aging is a comedic act - I look at myself and it gets funnier every day.
A tangential aspect to this question is view taken of Boomers. The Silent Generation accepted the suffering of Life whereas with the loss of religious faith the Greatest Generation lost that acceptance, moving to tolerance instead and looking to pleasure as compensation. Boomers rejected the virtue of even tolerating suffering and made pleasure seeking not a compensation for suffering but the main event in life. Of course this outline is not absolute but is speaking relatively, to highlight the differentials
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If people would stick to the teachings of Jesus in the NT then there would be a lot less problems in the world.
WHO??