The Complete Longest Journey Retrospective

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  • Опубликовано: 1 янв 2025

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  • @nightfall88
    @nightfall88 Год назад +10

    I found this video at 1 AM. Thank God it wasn't a work day. Beautiful video, and thanks for this.

    • @arkham666
      @arkham666  Год назад +1

      Wow I never imagined I'd actually keep people up most of the night. Glad you enjoyed it. It's a wonderful series.

  • @zangetsuee
    @zangetsuee 9 месяцев назад +19

    a two and a half hours about TLJ series???
    SIGN ME UP 😍😍

    • @arkham666
      @arkham666  9 месяцев назад +2

      Hope you enjoy it. I also recommend just playing the longest journey for 2 and half hours.

  • @MinorMotionPicture
    @MinorMotionPicture Месяц назад +3

    A friend of mine introduced me to this game series. And I was immediately drawn in. When I had finished it all I was left with sadness, this hollow feeling in my chest. I messaged my friend and told her how much I wish there were more games out there like this. It was bittersweet finally finishing it all. I’m so very grateful that my friend gifted me the games.

    • @arkham666
      @arkham666  Месяц назад +1

      @@MinorMotionPicture there are games with heart like this but you need to look a little more in the double A and indie scene. Bigger triple A games can have deeper stories for sure but they can be hard to find amongst the sea of soulless live service garbage. Definitely give Grim Fandango and A Space For The Unbound a try.

    • @MinorMotionPicture
      @MinorMotionPicture Месяц назад +1

      @ Thanks for the suggestions! I’ll check those games out. The thing with The Longest Journey and Dreamfall games is my friend is such a huge fan of them. And when I was playing it always felt extra nice knowing how much time and joy my friend had with the games. How much she invested in it with the Kickstarter. There’s something so special about playing something, reading something, or watching something that means so much to someone else. As if you get to partake in a deeper part of them. And every time I played I felt like she was there with me.

  • @TempleOfBu
    @TempleOfBu Год назад +23

    This is exactly what I was looking for! The Longest Journey saga is one of my all-time favourite gaming experiences. Thanks so much for this, great retroperspective! Looking forward to watching your Disco Elysium video next! :)

    • @arkham666
      @arkham666  Год назад

      Glad you enjoyed it.

    • @widedtho
      @widedtho 6 месяцев назад

      omg same tysm arkham

  • @jorgenbre
    @jorgenbre Месяц назад +2

    My favorite game of all time. Played it in Norwegian when it came out, first game ever on my PC. Made it through the game with no guides. Thank you for this beautiful video.

    • @arkham666
      @arkham666  Месяц назад

      @@jorgenbre you've got great taste. Glad you enjoyed it.

  • @HeathBadhwar
    @HeathBadhwar Год назад +8

    Damn bro! That was a deep trip down memory lane. This series really means a lot to me, (especially in my youth... where did the last 11 years go?) but it's one I have a lot of trouble revisiting (For time sink and emotional reasons). I usually end up just watching my favourite moments from the first game, which is closest to my heart. I appreciate you for putting this together.
    I remember being so excited when DFC was announced on kickstarter and backing it right away cause I was just so invested in these worlds and the characters.
    You really opened my eyes to how messed up April is in the beginning of TLJ and just how relatable she is. You helped me understand why I love this character I love so much, I dig it.
    I am stoked to find your channel and will be watching your Disco Elysium, Vampire and Deus Ex videos next. Ah the oozing of soul from those titles is palpable. Also I'm tempted to read Imajica now.
    P.S. Now that I'm older: Forget Saga, I want a game about Cortez where you sit on a bench and complain about sunshine to art students.

    • @arkham666
      @arkham666  Год назад +2

      Thank you for this wonderful comment. I really enjoy reading about the experiences of others with these games. I'm glad my work could have such an impact on you. I am a big lover of games with a soul made with passion. I hope my other videos can be just as inciteful for you.

  • @gagadreams
    @gagadreams 7 дней назад +1

    My favorite game of all time, it literally changed the way I perceive life and reality! A true masterpiece and I cried at the very end, didn't see it coming at all and thinking back now I probably should have! 💗

  • @icannotbeseen
    @icannotbeseen Год назад +6

    TLJ was written precisely for me too - but then again the first time I played it I was 9. I'm pretty sure TLJ shaped my taste for the future

    • @arkham666
      @arkham666  Год назад

      Then you clearly became someone of great taste.

    • @icannotbeseen
      @icannotbeseen Год назад

      haaaaa the end of dreamfall chapters never fails to make me cry a little.

    • @apanickedseagull
      @apanickedseagull Год назад

      I saw the “The Last Jedi” in your abbreviation and got unreasonably mad.

  • @creedoyo7173
    @creedoyo7173 8 месяцев назад +4

    I played this game on a whim like 8 years ago. My pc could only handle older games, so i kind of tried this going in blindly. I dont see many people talk about it, but its one of my favourite games of all time!

    • @arkham666
      @arkham666  8 месяцев назад +1

      The whole series is a gem. A real passion project that would never get greenlit by a large publisher these days. I'm glad I got to experience the whole story.

  • @crowbringer
    @crowbringer 2 дня назад +1

    One of the greatest games ever released, alongside Silent Hill, Final Fantasy and GTA.

  • @dibblemcbibble2787
    @dibblemcbibble2787 4 месяца назад +3

    That last bit about Dustborn didn't quite age well.

    • @MerlinTheCommenter
      @MerlinTheCommenter 2 месяца назад +1

      After the mess of Dreamfall chapters, it wasn’t boding well even back then.

    • @dibblemcbibble2787
      @dibblemcbibble2787 2 месяца назад +1

      @@MerlinTheCommenter I’d argue Chapters still had it’s good points, it’s nowhere near as bad as Dustborn

  • @bryansmethers8936
    @bryansmethers8936 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for this video, I fondly remeber old classic games like these I grew up on but going back to actually play them is such a chore it's hard to do. A perspective and look back through is such a great way to look back and refresh my memory :)

    • @arkham666
      @arkham666  11 месяцев назад

      You're welcome mate. It is a grind to set them up but it's worth it.

  • @kylewinters8531
    @kylewinters8531 Год назад +1

    Such monumental job of editing and voicing, this clearly deserves more views!

  • @xAstronomy
    @xAstronomy 7 месяцев назад +2

    Good freaking job! 10/10 Stars i could give i would, great job, enjoyed every second of this.

    • @arkham666
      @arkham666  7 месяцев назад

      Thank you I had a wonderful time making it. These games are beautiful.

  • @xmaa9x
    @xmaa9x Год назад +2

    Thank you so so so much for these videos. I couldn’t find any other retrospectives on TLJ/Dreamfall, so this was much appreciated! Honestly, the only thing I think was missing is gushing over Crow being an awesome sidekick. 😂

  • @meursault7030
    @meursault7030 4 месяца назад +2

    "Far, far in the past when everything was bigger and better and we all went too far too quickly."
    I really like that.
    Edit: Ay I'm just editing this about a minute later to say I hope you're writing something other than youtube videos. You're an excellent writer. Your imagination is fleshing out the story of this game, girthier than it actually is, and your command of the language is keeping up with that imagination.

    • @arkham666
      @arkham666  4 месяца назад

      @@meursault7030 I'm working on my own game actually. I've been learning unreal engine for a while now.

    • @meursault7030
      @meursault7030 4 месяца назад

      @@arkham666 Niiice

  • @motyd
    @motyd Год назад +3

    I agree with most of what you said here. Although to me, and this is totally subjective, the Dream arc (Dreamfall and Dreamfall Chapters) felt a little bit out of place and at times at odds with the original story from TLJ. TLJ ended with some open questions and some assertions about the future which the dreamer arc had to abide by and I think it wasn't ideal. I think that other than the nostalgia and coolness factor of seeing the characters and locations from TLJ in the later games they aren't really needed per se, and their function in the story could have been fulfilled by other similar unrelated characters or could have been removed completely (For example the Guardian and his realm don't really play a significant role in Dreamfall, and in DC the Banda don't gain anything from being banda as opposed to just some other previously unseen magical race). I have no proof for this of course but I also think that there were some unnecessary soft retcons and repurposing of characters done along the way, for example with Brian Westhouse and Roper Klack as I very much doubt that during TLJ development they were already intended to have such bigger and deeper lore elements to them. I think the way it was set hurt the original game's story a bit. Maybe it would have been better to set this about 50 years before TLJ or even set it entirely in a different setting that also has parallel worlds.

  • @alexbourg4165
    @alexbourg4165 7 месяцев назад +2

    @2:15:05 You state Oular experience their entire existence in a single moment, but that is the Venar. The Oular are the cat looking dudes there that don't speak or really serve any purpose in the story whatsoever. Thanks for the great video.

    • @arkham666
      @arkham666  7 месяцев назад

      Thanks. Glad you enjoyed the video.

  • @atropine9718
    @atropine9718 Год назад

    A long time ago I watched a Let’s Play of this old game and couldn’t for the life of me remember what it was called. I’d remember every once and a while and spend so many hours rampantly searching for the title. Years later, I was scrolling through a retro-style blog and found a screenshot of said game with the name: Dreamfall II. Call me a deep space probe, but I was totally over the moon. Even more so when I looked up the game and found your video. This is going to be my second time watching this video about a franchise that slipped under my radar.
    I wanted to say that I deeply appreciate this kind of content. You don’t need me to tell you that it’s rare for something like this to be popular or favored by the algorithm. I’ve been incredibly blessed to find a handful of others who do similar content, but nothing quite like yours. It’s such a cozy trip through an era of gaming when experimentation was everywhere. Maybe that’s the nostalgia talking, but it makes me happy to see things like Dreamfall talked about with such reverence.
    I’ve since seen some of your other videos, and the quality only improves as time goes on. This one is still special to me though. It’s funny how weird tangents lead to you finding other inspired creators. Dope!

    • @arkham666
      @arkham666  Год назад

      Thanks. I'd much rather be niche and enjoy doing my own thing than be Hella popular but complaining about everything. I really appreciate your comment. It's stuff like this that inspires me to keep going.

  • @lichtundschatten2017
    @lichtundschatten2017 4 месяца назад +1

    @ 1:02:00 Can't agree with you. I felt that TLJ was much lighter, and it certainly didn't feel as if April was sadder than Zoë. Yes, her past was addressed, for example in that phone call to her mother in the police station, but the Border House never felt "depressing".
    We got a blank slate with April. We got darkness upon darkness with Zoë and Dreamfall.
    It is a great story, but it's very bleak, too.

  • @Ghostie.
    @Ghostie. 8 месяцев назад +2

    Crazy underrated series.

  • @mormegil231
    @mormegil231 8 месяцев назад +2

    What an excellent retrospective. This is one of my favorite series. I played the first game when i was 17 and the last when i was 32. It has really been a long journey indeed.
    As for Westhouse. I think that what Westhouse wanted was to travel to Arcadia. He was just an explorer. Getting the undreaming was not part of the plan. But a non-shifter traveling between worlds is a bad experience. That is also why he did not take April's offer at the end. Possesed or not it was still the body of a non-shifter. And passing through world would be dangerous.
    And from what i understood westhouse after his trip between worlds was like actually possessed. A strange amalgamation of himself and the undreaming. Thus the drinking. And by the end that the undreaming basically took over and setting up the plan.

    • @lichtundschatten2017
      @lichtundschatten2017 4 месяца назад

      Keep in mind the reveal in Dreamfall Chapters, book 5 though. He clearly states that "I should control you, not the other way around." Also, he states that he wants to "destroy magic, so Stark and Arcadia can be reunited again", which I assume he was planning to do since the very beginning.
      Which begs the question: Why did Cortez / the red dragon help Brian on this quest? Why did he "save" Brian, if he indeed knew what he wanted to achieve and presumably what would happen to him?
      Or was Brian trying to end existence / "the dream" of Lux altogether? In the end fight of book 5, he mutters something around these lines.
      Questions upon questions.

    • @mormegil231
      @mormegil231 4 месяца назад

      @@lichtundschatten2017 I do not think that was brian speaking. I think that was the undermining. Saying that somehow Brain was still in there,

    • @lichtundschatten2017
      @lichtundschatten2017 4 месяца назад

      @@mormegil231 Undermining = Undreaming? You mean that the "thing" that wanted to "destroy magic so it can go home" was actually the undreaming?
      But Zoë (in the "dream flashbacks" in Book 5) said that the Undreaming must be *unleashed*, because Brian / "the Prophet" was actually the bad guy...

    • @mormegil231
      @mormegil231 4 месяца назад

      @@lichtundschatten2017 yeah autocorrect weirdness.
      As i said it was an amalgamation of both entities that created the prophet. So the prophet inherited the will of brain to get home. Like it was a constant struggle and in this twisted situation this entity controlled by both brian and the undreaming was convinced that the only way for their possession/struggle to end was to merge the worlds.
      Brain did not start as a bad guy. And the undreaming was more a force of nature. But the entity that was created when he merged with the undreaming was the bad guy, in constant torment that was convince that destroying magic would end it.

    • @lichtundschatten2017
      @lichtundschatten2017 4 месяца назад +1

      @@mormegil231 So they solved the problem by "killing the host" (Brian) and giving the Undreaming "an alternative": To join with Lux.
      Still, I would like Ragnar to explain the whole thing. There must be more to it than that, especially when Cortez is involved.

  • @InkDrop.
    @InkDrop. Год назад +1

    Brilliant analysis. Love the game for all the same reasons.

  • @HamidKarzai
    @HamidKarzai 6 месяцев назад +1

    when i first played this as a kid, my child brain instantly understood the solution for that infamous rubber ducky puzzle. when i saw that you could deflate and inflate it i just instantly realized "this is what i need to pick up that thing in the subway". the mer people puzzles stopped me dead in my tracks though

    • @arkham666
      @arkham666  6 месяцев назад +1

      Kids are interesting like that. I used to be a pretty good magician and a kid could figure out a trick that would baffle adults in seconds but he mesmerised by an obvious trick box.

  • @dsstunter
    @dsstunter Год назад +1

    The Longest Journey was one of the first game I ever played with such an interesting story and world(s). This series means a lot to me, and it was interesting to hear your thoughts and opinions about it. All three games do such an amazing job with atmosphere, that just walking around in their worlds just feel like pure magic. I am generally not a story first kind of gamer, but these games have somehow cemented themselves into my brain like a good book. I can fire up any of these games at any point and just walk around, and be filled with child-like wonder. And while they all are very different in style and gameplay, they still all manage to capture me in the same way. Truly a series that will stay with me throughout my entire life.
    I think my only 'problem' with the series is how some of the story was handled in Chapters. It is very clear from TLJ and even Dreamfall that April was planned to survive, and that April was going to be Lady Alvane by partnering up with Kian. During the many years between Dreamfall and Dreamfall: Chapters release, I don't doubt Ragnar read a lot of speculation/predictions for a potential sequel, and sometimes I felt like he purposefully tried to subvert these theories to the point that it could take me out of the story and see the author instead of the characters. And while not really a huge issue, it do wish he leaned more into what he had set up just for the satisfaction of the circular story. And while I know we did still get that with Saga as Lady Alvane, it somehow just felt a bit less satisfying than I think it could have been. Again though, this is just a minor gripe, that probably stems from playing these games as they released, rather than one after another after the fact. Still one of my favorite game series of all time.

  • @playful1510
    @playful1510 Год назад +1

    I'm not sure how, but it seems like I never finished watching this video when it dropped. Well, I just fixed that grievous oversight. Very well presented.

  • @thesummerofmark
    @thesummerofmark 2 года назад

    this gonna be gooooood

    • @arkham666
      @arkham666  2 года назад

      Lol thanks man. This is just a collection of my previous 3 TLJ vids so you've probably seen them already. This is just an experiment in trying to reach a different audience. I'm not expecting it to blow up but ya never know.

  • @meursault7030
    @meursault7030 4 месяца назад +1

    Holy shit almost 3 hours about The Longest Journey.
    I don't even like the second and third games, I'm just glad someone's finally given them their due.
    I haven't even watched a seond of this video yet. I wonder if I'll end up changing my mind about anything by the end. The beauty of ambiguity, eh?

    • @arkham666
      @arkham666  4 месяца назад

      @@meursault7030 well it is the looooonnnnngggesssstttt journey lol

  • @humanLucifer
    @humanLucifer Год назад +2

    you mention you enjoy recognizing the references in this game, then i can recommend the book "slaughterhouse five" as the venar are almost certainly a reference to a species in that book

    • @arkham666
      @arkham666  Год назад

      I'll look into it today. Sounds awesome.

  • @lizanicole8410
    @lizanicole8410 10 месяцев назад

    Resume 45:00

  • @jadegecko
    @jadegecko Год назад +1

    TLJ is like a core memory for me lol
    Also, if you need other games with a soul - did you ever play Outer Wilds?

    • @arkham666
      @arkham666  Год назад +1

      Not yet but it's been recommended several times now so I'll definitely check it out thanks.

  • @ThePreciseClimber
    @ThePreciseClimber Год назад

    1:29:00 That guy looks so weird with his blonde beard and red hair. Also, not much of a tan for a guy who lives in such a warm climate.

  • @baka-oni8358
    @baka-oni8358 9 месяцев назад +1

    started playing dreamfall, got confused as to what the fuck was going on, before realizing its a sequel to this. still havent beaten either game, but its shaping up to be a favourite of mine, atleast in the point n click adventure genre

    • @baka-oni8358
      @baka-oni8358 7 месяцев назад +1

      i finally finished all of the games. 1st game had puzzles which were way harder and nonsensical. 2nd game puzzles were too easy. 3rd game puzzles were not puzzles, just walking to quest mark.

  • @MontroseChloe
    @MontroseChloe 3 месяца назад +1

    Now that Dustborn is released. We can hope... Hope for Ragnar to bring it home. Or at least to start the Journey. It's going to be a long one I think. Possibly The Longest Journey.... Home.

    • @arkham666
      @arkham666  3 месяца назад

      @@MontroseChloe Good title XD

    • @MontroseChloe
      @MontroseChloe 3 месяца назад +1

      @@arkham666 I can't take credit. That was the name Ragnar used as the stretch goal for Chapters kickstarter.

    • @arkham666
      @arkham666  3 месяца назад +1

      @@MontroseChloe I'm worried for red thread to be honest. Quantic Dream clearly didn't spend any money marketing the game and the eternally online "culture war" fuck heads have review bombed it on metacritic so it's hard to know if the game will make it's money back and what that will mean for the future of the studio.

    • @MontroseChloe
      @MontroseChloe 3 месяца назад +1

      @@arkham666 yeah. it became the number 1 target for DEI SBI racist bigots everywhere. Every single hate baiter on the internet went off on it. but they don't NEED Quantic. They crowdfunded Chapters. Still Dustborn looks to be a commercial flop. Lasted longer than Concord though!

    • @arkham666
      @arkham666  3 месяца назад +1

      @@MontroseChloe it's such a weird culture. I see a product clearly not marketed towards me and I just don't buy it. I don't go on a campaign to hate on it. What a total waste of energy.
      I guess it's possible that the longest journey fandom will show up for more tlj adjacent games. Maybe Red thread can go the way of Larian.

  • @DoctorEviloply
    @DoctorEviloply 2 дня назад

    I have to admit, I am rather impressed at your attempt to portray Chapters as anything more than the incoherent and rushed mess it actually is.

    • @arkham666
      @arkham666  2 дня назад

      Some people see brush strokes on a canvas, others see a beautiful painting. Neither of those perceptions equate to what it "actually is."

  • @ThePreciseClimber
    @ThePreciseClimber Год назад +2

    1:20:46 Eeeeh, I dunno, man... Blaming the Xbox for the facial animations? Look at Silent Hill 3 on PS2. Heck, even the procedurally-generated facial animations from KotOR and Jade Empire looked better. Funcom simply didn't have the resources for better animations. Plenty of PC-only games from the early 2000s didn't have great facial animations simply because of budget/manpower limitations.

  • @ajaxslamgoody9736
    @ajaxslamgoody9736 11 месяцев назад +1

    One reviewer stated that the Political Party she is part of was like a Socialist Party and the Bad guys were like a Capitalism Party....I don't know, never played this. But I loved the longest Journey.

    • @arkham666
      @arkham666  11 месяцев назад

      It's just a dictatorship vs rebel alliance setup. You can make those same analogies of any story about scrappy rebels fighting an oppressive dictatorship. TLJ is easily the best of the 3 though.

  • @djorovicwolf
    @djorovicwolf 2 года назад

    Was going to write a smartass comment and then i spilled my coffee so this is all you get🙃

    • @arkham666
      @arkham666  2 года назад

      I appreciate this confession of spilled coffee. It will save the tribunal a lot of trouble when they come to execute you for the crime wasting the most precious of all beverages.

    • @djorovicwolf
      @djorovicwolf 2 года назад

      @@arkham666 I was just so mad that there are so few comments i had to hit something and things happened....

    • @arkham666
      @arkham666  2 года назад

      @@djorovicwolf lol it's cool bro. Check the description, this is a compilation of three other videos I put together as a little experiment to try to reach a broader audience. I put a post out about it a few days ago too. The individual videos have plenty of nice comments so I don't expect people to double up for me lol.

    • @djorovicwolf
      @djorovicwolf 2 года назад +1

      @@arkham666 I know, i know, i'm just practicing my english spelling and like talking to you, so its a win/win and i really did spill my coffee

    • @arkham666
      @arkham666  2 года назад

      @@djorovicwolf lol you're always welcome to chat. I'm on Twitter and some times in salt factories discord server.

  • @maayavulfe6365
    @maayavulfe6365 Год назад +1

    Omg the longest journey

    • @astralboy
      @astralboy 11 дней назад

      agree, it was probably dumped to balance the lesbo teens

  • @criss1461
    @criss1461 11 дней назад +1

    I got a equally amazing game for you, Syberia 1 and 2 I'd you haven't already played them. 3rd is meh and Syberia the world before it's the latest addition to the series.

    • @arkham666
      @arkham666  11 дней назад +1

      Got on GoG so I'll get around to them soon enough.

    • @criss1461
      @criss1461 10 дней назад +1

      @arkham666 enjoy the journey and the story. Syberia and The longest journey have been my step into the pc gaming world as a child. As a honorable mention for a great well done adventure point and click, puzzle driven game if you feel like checking it out is Retun to mysterious island 1 and 2. Ps : I have finished watching your video analysis, great job in not putting unecesarry spoliers for the people who are yet to play the game and really good job in putting together all the information so cohesive. I have just one question, in the 1st game isn't April supposed to be the daughter of the white dragon not sister? Maybe I got those two mixed up. Regardless, great video on great game, cheers.

  • @djorovicwolf
    @djorovicwolf 2 года назад +1

    😘