Quick update: as of Spring 2020, I spoke with someone at Adobe and they have stopped development on the plugin. (You also can no longer access the beta version.) They have no plans at the moment to continue development:(
@@ceceliamm It is! I saw the Pattern Preview. I actually did a video on it a few month again, but yeah, just for full drops. I'm hoping they'll eventually incorporate something like the Pattern Tool that they have in Illustrator.
If you're a textile designer using Photoshop, unless you have a plugin, half drops are usually a pain in the neck! This method has helped me get them done a LOT more quickly!
OMG! This is brilliant! I've been able to do half drops in Photoshop but the way I was taught was a nightmare compared to your method! It would take me hours to jockey stuff around, especially if I have layers to my pattern which I almost l always do - in other words a plaid pattern sitting behind another pattern on top to create more interest, texture and depth. You are a LIFE saver! I'll be watching more of your videos. Thank you so much if I could hug you I would! Day after tomorrow is Thanksgiving - I am so thankful for finding this video, and especially, that you took the time to make it and share your findings!
Thank you so much for this! AND for speaking slowwwwly and explaining throughly! How do you export your pattern into a png/jpeg or pdf that I can send to a fabric manufacturer to print?
Thank you so much for watching and commenting! I appreciate you! Your printer only needs the repeat so you just need to send them the file with the original repeat tile (the one you used to definte the pattern.) And you can just save that as a png or pdf. (I don't suggest your use jpg.) They may even be fine with a PSD file. They'll tell you.
thank you for such a helpful tutorial! I have a question I hope you can help me with: When I pull out the window with the re-opened selected smart object layer, I do not see my edits on the layer updated in the main pattern file.. is there something in particular I need to do before hand, or activate in my Ps? thanks!
Hi, Marcia. Thanks for watching and commenting. Are you saving? You must save the smart object file you're editing in order to see the edits in the original repeat file. You should not have to make any other adjustments to Photoshop.
@@383design Hi! Thanks for replying so quickly! I figured it out: it wasn't allowing me to save at all, and it was because the pattern file wasn't 'saved as' yet.. it's working now, thanks (:
Hi! Just wanted to ask if you recommend to use PS for half drop textiles or is it better to just do it in Illustrator? Same question regarding reducing the number of colors and cleaning?
Hi, Lana. Thanks for watching and commenting! I think it's easier to do both in Illustrator, but if the pattern is a raster image, you'll have to do it in Photoshop. Also, if your creating the prints and your style is more painterly, you'll get a better result if you do it in Photoshop.
@@383design Thank you so much for your reply! I need the end result to be in Photoshop. Would I be able to transfer my ready pattern ( color separated and in repeat) from Illustrator to PS without any problems? Also, are there any plugins you could recommend for designing the half drops in PS easier?
@@lanaana You definitely can. You would just export the file to Photoshop. For plugins, I did a video about the more recent pattern preview function in photoshop and someone commented that they were able to make that work to do the half drop. Otherwise, any others I used to know of I don't think are in business anymore. Adobe was developing a dope plugin, but they dropped it. I emailed them about it, and I believe they've farmed out the plugin to another company (I think Nedgraphics, but I can't find the email). Sadly, there's no ETA on when that will be done.
This video is great! Really helpful. Is there a way to export my layers back in to the original file from the smart objects? So then they can be editable if the .PSD were to be exported and saved as a .TIFF?
Thanks for watching and commenting. Hmmm, good question. I've never had to do this, so not sure if there's a trick to it. I imagine you can do it manually. If you have the smart object, as long as you saved the original elements in layers, you can always go back to them. I believe you can export them, but again, I've never tried. If it's something you do all the time, maybe you should create an action for it so that it'll at least be somewhat automated. I'm curious why you'd want or need to do this. Is having the smart object in layers no enough for what you're doing?
Awesomness! Quick question, if I want the motif to be, 12" x 12", which is 3600 x 3600 px, What size would I make the actual canvas to begin with, and what would the pixel offset be for each offset, horizontally and vertically? Thanks so much!
Hi, Roxanne. Thanks for watching and commenting. If the motif is 12X12, I would suggest making the canvas size a little bigger than that. The extra space around the edges is really to give you some room to "play" in case you need some extra space to arrange the motifs. However, the canvas size will also depend on how large your roller sizes for printing are, so you'll want to find out what roller sizes your printer is using, and then base the final canvas size on that. It should be the width of the roller or something divisible by that width so that the printer won't have to adjust your artwork. Whatever size you choose, you'll want to decide the pixel offset based on the final canvas size (not just the size of your motif.) And it would be 1/2 the length for the straight vertical drop; then, 1/2 the width and 1/4 of the length (for the half drop). And then the last time, you'll use the same number except the length with move in the opposite direction (put a minus or plus in front of the number).
@@383design Thank you! That's exactly what I was meaning, so the canvas size will be the ultimate pixel ratio that I use when figuring the numbers to do the drops, not the motif size. Appreciated! I agree, this is the best, most straight-forward, non fussy way to do a half drop repeat! I've watched so many videos for YEARS! I feel like this is my Eureka moment!
Hi, Sumit Jain. Thank you for watching and commenting, and I'm so sorry it's taken me so long to respond. I missed the alert for this comment. We don't have any tutorials currently for drawing these types of florals, and this originally was created in Illustrator (and created by another artist). But if you wanted to do this in Photoshop, I suspect you could draw the motifs with brushes and opacity. It's not so easy to just draw freehand in Photoshop, so you might want to make some quick sketches, scan them, and then color over them with brushes. You may even want to use the blending modes with the brushes or with your layers to achieve some of the layering showing on the florals.
Thank you so so much for this! This is the best method I've seen so far in years of struggling with half drops. Very clear and easy to understand instructions, and nice design too :)
Hi, this is great video:-)! Yeah, it is the best way of doing it! I just have a little question: as you can not paint on the transparent background, so did you paint the flower in a separate document with white background first? Then, how did you move the flowers to the document with transparent background please? Thanks in advance.
Hi, Jane. Thanks so much for watching and commenting! Yes, the flowers were created in a separate document prior to the video so I that all I was really focusing on is doing the half drop. However, I have drawn my motifs and created the repeat in the same document before. I just put everything on separate layers, and by default, the background is transparent on the new layers. Then, if necessary, I'll get rid of the background layer.
Hi great tutorial - but I am just having trouble with the repeat. It seems like it's just a little bit out and not repeating.I think it has something to do with the vertical/horizontal alignment step so the collection of motifs isn't quite centred. But I don't know how to fix this. Any ideas?
Hi! Thank you so much for watching and commenting! Every once in awhile this technique does something weird like what you're referring to. Making sure that the initial motifs are centered on the artboard usually takes care of the issue.
@@383design it is always good to make sure that your pixel dimensions are in an 'even' number. You cannot divide 'odd' numbers into halves and quarters
Sadly, Adobe Textile Designer will not be created after all :( The beta has closed and they won't offer the plugin. That's why I am THRILLED to find your video. I became so dependent on the easy-to-use ATD plugin beta thinking it would become a real product. You video here, is the best thing on the planet to me.Thank you for creating it-kudos on a clear, concise presentation! You really hit the mark for me on this presentation!! With Appreciation:)
Southwind yes, I heard they weren’t moving forward. I’d asked them for an ETA earlier in the year because I wanted to incorporate into some of my FIT classes. It’s really unfortunate because there aren’t many good plugins for textile design, and this looked like a good one that really checked all the boxes of the different functions you’d need from repeats to reducing and separating colors. Sad. But I’m glad this was helpful! Thanks for watching and commenting:) I appreciate you!
@@383design Your video will more than a help...starting Monday, it is going to save me big-time! I am praying for another company or Adobe, to add the tiling feature for folks out here. It’s not that I want an easy way to do it. But allows for so much more creative time illustrating for fabric design, rather than manipulating/trial & erro for eons to get the job done. :) ❤️
May I have a question please. Since the image size is 2362, its half will be 1181. But why the vertical half drop is 1101 rather than 1181. Sorry if the question is stupid, thanks for the tutorial.
Hi, Kim! Not a stupid question at all, and you're probably the only one who noticed this, so thanks for being so observant:) I had to do two different takes of the video. The second time around I'd trimmed the canvas a bit so the sizing was slightly different. I will be sure to be more diligent about NOT doing that in future videos:) But the technique is still correct: half the pixel size of the image. Thanks for calling that out, and thank you so much for watching and commenting! I appreciate you!
@@383design I see, hahahaha no wonder I watched for more than 10 times still don't get it. Thanks for your reply :) Hope to see more tutorial in future from you.
Hi, Erika. Sorry this response is SO delayed. One of the things I've found helped is to make sure that the motif(s) you start with are in the center of the page.
I'm sure this is user error, but every half drop pattern I try to do with this method just looks like a hot mess. I even went so far as to only use three objects and no matter how I move them around on the smart object, they just end up overlaying each other.
Hi, Shauna Henry. Thanks for watching and commenting! Hmmm, one issue I've had in the past is to make sure that the Smart Object is exactly the size of your motifs edge to edge. Make sure there's nothing that was hanging off the edge of the artboard or extra unexpected pixels. That can sometimes mess up the offsetting. You may want to arrange your motifs in the middle of the artboard and offset from there. Sometimes when you start somewhere off to the left or right, it skews the offset filter. Hope that helps. If not, we can chat via email and I can take a look at your file.
I finally got it!! woohoo!!! whew, this takes a lot of manipulating. I wish it would show the movements live so you didn't have to click save after every slight movement. Too bad they stopped the development of that plugin. thanks again for the tutorial.
@@YourLifEvents Yeah, it's a bit of a bummer that plug-in is gone. I know there are some others out there that people have been using for years, so if textile design is something you plan to do, you may want to look into it. The time you save I'm sure will be worth it. Also, for regular basic repeats, they did add the Pattern Preview function in the last Photoshop update so that should at least help you somewhat. (If you're interested, I did a video on that as well: ruclips.net/video/Yuxxwj49Em4/видео.html) Half drop repeats are always time consuming, though. But I'm glad you got it working:) Have fun!!
Quick update: as of Spring 2020, I spoke with someone at Adobe and they have stopped development on the plugin. (You also can no longer access the beta version.) They have no plans at the moment to continue development:(
It's sooo disappointing, isn't it? They now have the Pattern Preview tool, but it is only for straight repeats. No half-drop.
@@ceceliamm It is! I saw the Pattern Preview. I actually did a video on it a few month again, but yeah, just for full drops. I'm hoping they'll eventually incorporate something like the Pattern Tool that they have in Illustrator.
If you're a textile designer using Photoshop, unless you have a plugin, half drops are usually a pain in the neck! This method has helped me get them done a LOT more quickly!
Thank you for the CONCISE tutorial. It's 3 am, so I'm not going to try it now. Haha! But I'll try it after I get some sleep.
Thank you for watching and commenting! I'm glad it was helpful:)
Congratulations, this is the first tutorial that is clear, concise and actually works. I have made my first half drop repeat.
I appreciate that! I'm glad it was helpful:) Thanks for watching and commenting!
YOU SAVED MY LIFE. THANK YOU!!!!!
Glad you found this video so helpful:) You are very welcome! Thanks for watching and commenting!
OMG! This is brilliant! I've been able to do half drops in Photoshop but the way I was taught was a nightmare compared to your method! It would take me hours to jockey stuff around, especially if I have layers to my pattern which I almost l always do - in other words a plaid pattern sitting behind another pattern on top to create more interest, texture and depth. You are a LIFE saver! I'll be watching more of your videos. Thank you so much if I could hug you I would! Day after tomorrow is Thanksgiving - I am so thankful for finding this video, and especially, that you took the time to make it and share your findings!
Hi! Thank you so much for watching and commenting, and I'm so glad this was helpful to you! Thank you for your compliments, too:)
The best video I have found explaining this repeat! Thank you so much xxx
Thank you so much, Emily! I appreciate you watching and commenting:)
Thank you so much for this! AND for speaking slowwwwly and explaining throughly! How do you export your pattern into a png/jpeg or pdf that I can send to a fabric manufacturer to print?
Thank you so much for watching and commenting! I appreciate you!
Your printer only needs the repeat so you just need to send them the file with the original repeat tile (the one you used to definte the pattern.) And you can just save that as a png or pdf. (I don't suggest your use jpg.) They may even be fine with a PSD file. They'll tell you.
thank you for such a helpful tutorial! I have a question I hope you can help me with: When I pull out the window with the re-opened selected smart object layer, I do not see my edits on the layer updated in the main pattern file.. is there something in particular I need to do before hand, or activate in my Ps? thanks!
Hi, Marcia. Thanks for watching and commenting. Are you saving? You must save the smart object file you're editing in order to see the edits in the original repeat file. You should not have to make any other adjustments to Photoshop.
@@383design Hi! Thanks for replying so quickly! I figured it out: it wasn't allowing me to save at all, and it was because the pattern file wasn't 'saved as' yet.. it's working now, thanks (:
@@Marmarmar11 Awesome! Glad it worked out and was such a simple fix (at least it sounds like it was:)
I agree with others! I had come to rely on ATD and your video tutorial is the most simple way I've seen to create a half drop!! thank you!!
Thanks so much for watching and commenting! Glad you found it helpful!
Hi! Just wanted to ask if you recommend to use PS for half drop textiles or is it better to just do it in Illustrator? Same question regarding reducing the number of colors and cleaning?
Hi, Lana. Thanks for watching and commenting! I think it's easier to do both in Illustrator, but if the pattern is a raster image, you'll have to do it in Photoshop. Also, if your creating the prints and your style is more painterly, you'll get a better result if you do it in Photoshop.
@@383design Thank you so much for your reply! I need the end result to be in Photoshop. Would I be able to transfer my ready pattern ( color separated and in repeat) from Illustrator to PS without any problems? Also, are there any plugins you could recommend for designing the half drops in PS easier?
@@lanaana You definitely can. You would just export the file to Photoshop. For plugins, I did a video about the more recent pattern preview function in photoshop and someone commented that they were able to make that work to do the half drop. Otherwise, any others I used to know of I don't think are in business anymore.
Adobe was developing a dope plugin, but they dropped it. I emailed them about it, and I believe they've farmed out the plugin to another company (I think Nedgraphics, but I can't find the email). Sadly, there's no ETA on when that will be done.
This video is great! Really helpful. Is there a way to export my layers back in to the original file from the smart objects? So then they can be editable if the .PSD were to be exported and saved as a .TIFF?
Thanks for watching and commenting.
Hmmm, good question. I've never had to do this, so not sure if there's a trick to it. I imagine you can do it manually. If you have the smart object, as long as you saved the original elements in layers, you can always go back to them. I believe you can export them, but again, I've never tried. If it's something you do all the time, maybe you should create an action for it so that it'll at least be somewhat automated.
I'm curious why you'd want or need to do this. Is having the smart object in layers no enough for what you're doing?
Thank you so much for sharing, I love your video very much.
Yuri Kim Thanks for watching and commenting! I appreciate it:)
Awesomness! Quick question, if I want the motif to be, 12" x 12", which is 3600 x 3600 px, What size would I make the actual canvas to begin with, and what would the pixel offset be for each offset, horizontally and vertically? Thanks so much!
Hi, Roxanne. Thanks for watching and commenting. If the motif is 12X12, I would suggest making the canvas size a little bigger than that. The extra space around the edges is really to give you some room to "play" in case you need some extra space to arrange the motifs. However, the canvas size will also depend on how large your roller sizes for printing are, so you'll want to find out what roller sizes your printer is using, and then base the final canvas size on that. It should be the width of the roller or something divisible by that width so that the printer won't have to adjust your artwork.
Whatever size you choose, you'll want to decide the pixel offset based on the final canvas size (not just the size of your motif.) And it would be 1/2 the length for the straight vertical drop; then, 1/2 the width and 1/4 of the length (for the half drop). And then the last time, you'll use the same number except the length with move in the opposite direction (put a minus or plus in front of the number).
@@383design Thank you! That's exactly what I was meaning, so the canvas size will be the ultimate pixel ratio that I use when figuring the numbers to do the drops, not the motif size. Appreciated! I agree, this is the best, most straight-forward, non fussy way to do a half drop repeat! I've watched so many videos for YEARS! I feel like this is my Eureka moment!
Very clear explanation! Thank's!
PinkNounou Thank you for watching and commenting!
Thank you so much ma'am for this life saving tutorial.
Is there any way I can learn how to design that motif in photoshop from scratch?
Hi, Sumit Jain. Thank you for watching and commenting, and I'm so sorry it's taken me so long to respond. I missed the alert for this comment. We don't have any tutorials currently for drawing these types of florals, and this originally was created in Illustrator (and created by another artist). But if you wanted to do this in Photoshop, I suspect you could draw the motifs with brushes and opacity. It's not so easy to just draw freehand in Photoshop, so you might want to make some quick sketches, scan them, and then color over them with brushes. You may even want to use the blending modes with the brushes or with your layers to achieve some of the layering showing on the florals.
Excellent tutorial 👌
Thank you so much for watching and commenting! I appreciate you!
This is so helpful. Thank you!
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Thank you so much for this very clear tutorial!!
jenjay74 Thank you so much for watching and commenting:) I appreciate you.
Thank u so much mam, pls do one more tutorial of half drop pattern mam
swathi suresh Thank you so much for watching and commenting, and I definitely plan to do more print tutorials so stay tuned:)
Thank you so so much for this! This is the best method I've seen so far in years of struggling with half drops. Very clear and easy to understand instructions, and nice design too :)
Thank you so much, Vanessa, for watching and commenting! Glad it was helpful!
Me too 😧
Hi, this is great video:-)! Yeah, it is the best way of doing it! I just have a little question: as you can not paint on the transparent background, so did you paint the flower in a separate document with white background first? Then, how did you move the flowers to the document with transparent background please? Thanks in advance.
Hi, Jane. Thanks so much for watching and commenting!
Yes, the flowers were created in a separate document prior to the video so I that all I was really focusing on is doing the half drop. However, I have drawn my motifs and created the repeat in the same document before. I just put everything on separate layers, and by default, the background is transparent on the new layers. Then, if necessary, I'll get rid of the background layer.
Hi great tutorial - but I am just having trouble with the repeat. It seems like it's just a little bit out and not repeating.I think it has something to do with the vertical/horizontal alignment step so the collection of motifs isn't quite centred. But I don't know how to fix this. Any ideas?
Hi! Thank you so much for watching and commenting! Every once in awhile this technique does something weird like what you're referring to. Making sure that the initial motifs are centered on the artboard usually takes care of the issue.
@@383design it is always good to make sure that your pixel dimensions are in an 'even' number. You cannot divide 'odd' numbers into halves and quarters
This was very quick and easy ..Thanks a lot 😊
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Thanks!
Thank you so much for watching and commenting! I appreciate you:)
Sadly, Adobe Textile Designer will not be created after all :( The beta has closed and they won't offer the plugin. That's why I am THRILLED to find your video. I became so dependent on the easy-to-use ATD plugin beta thinking it would become a real product. You video here, is the best thing on the planet to me.Thank you for creating it-kudos on a clear, concise presentation! You really hit the mark for me on this presentation!! With Appreciation:)
Southwind yes, I heard they weren’t moving forward. I’d asked them for an ETA earlier in the year because I wanted to incorporate into some of my FIT classes. It’s really unfortunate because there aren’t many good plugins for textile design, and this looked like a good one that really checked all the boxes of the different functions you’d need from repeats to reducing and separating colors. Sad. But I’m glad this was helpful! Thanks for watching and commenting:) I appreciate you!
@@383design Your video will more than a help...starting Monday, it is going to save me big-time! I am praying for another company or Adobe, to add the tiling feature for folks out here. It’s not that I want an easy way to do it. But allows for so much more creative time illustrating for fabric design, rather than manipulating/trial & erro for eons to get the job done. :) ❤️
May I have a question please. Since the image size is 2362, its half will be 1181. But why the vertical half drop is 1101 rather than 1181. Sorry if the question is stupid, thanks for the tutorial.
Hi, Kim! Not a stupid question at all, and you're probably the only one who noticed this, so thanks for being so observant:) I had to do two different takes of the video. The second time around I'd trimmed the canvas a bit so the sizing was slightly different. I will be sure to be more diligent about NOT doing that in future videos:) But the technique is still correct: half the pixel size of the image.
Thanks for calling that out, and thank you so much for watching and commenting! I appreciate you!
@@383design I see, hahahaha no wonder I watched for more than 10 times still don't get it. Thanks for your reply :) Hope to see more tutorial in future from you.
@@383design I noticed too but @kim beat me to the question
This is good
Thank you so much! And thank you for watching and commenting!
Love this but unfortunately each time i do the vertical repeat, when I check it later by filling the pattern, it is slightly cut off.
Erika, it is always good to make sure that your pixel dimensions are in an 'even' number. You cannot divide 'odd' numbers into halves and quarters
Hi, Erika. Sorry this response is SO delayed. One of the things I've found helped is to make sure that the motif(s) you start with are in the center of the page.
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I'm sure this is user error, but every half drop pattern I try to do with this method just looks like a hot mess. I even went so far as to only use three objects and no matter how I move them around on the smart object, they just end up overlaying each other.
Hi, Shauna Henry. Thanks for watching and commenting! Hmmm, one issue I've had in the past is to make sure that the Smart Object is exactly the size of your motifs edge to edge. Make sure there's nothing that was hanging off the edge of the artboard or extra unexpected pixels. That can sometimes mess up the offsetting.
You may want to arrange your motifs in the middle of the artboard and offset from there. Sometimes when you start somewhere off to the left or right, it skews the offset filter. Hope that helps. If not, we can chat via email and I can take a look at your file.
I finally got it!! woohoo!!! whew, this takes a lot of manipulating. I wish it would show the movements live so you didn't have to click save after every slight movement. Too bad they stopped the development of that plugin. thanks again for the tutorial.
@@YourLifEvents Yeah, it's a bit of a bummer that plug-in is gone. I know there are some others out there that people have been using for years, so if textile design is something you plan to do, you may want to look into it. The time you save I'm sure will be worth it. Also, for regular basic repeats, they did add the Pattern Preview function in the last Photoshop update so that should at least help you somewhat. (If you're interested, I did a video on that as well: ruclips.net/video/Yuxxwj49Em4/видео.html)
Half drop repeats are always time consuming, though. But I'm glad you got it working:) Have fun!!
GREAT tutorial, thank you!
Thanks for watching and commenting!