Just how hard is tomorrow going to be? | Tour De France 2024 Stage 10 | JB2
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
- Johan explains that although this has been an incredibly hard first week of the Tour, they have only done 1/3 of the meters of total climbing for this tour, which means there is a LOT of racing left in this Tour. Johan also evaluates the top GC teams up to this point in the race.
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Hi from Denmark. Jonas responded to Remco, saying it´s not about balls, but about racing smart (boom). He wen´t out of his comfortzone there. Normally Jonas is extremely introvert, but learned over the years, to handle the pressure around him. He is also a very gentle person, who sometimes seem fragile, and that´s why it´s so important for him, to have he´s wife and daughter close. That helps him focus. Everyone can see, that he feels more relaxed now, then for 1-2 years ago. When Pogacar was jumping backwards in the pool, on the restday last year, before the TT. Jonas was reaxing with he´s familiy. So there u have it. 2 very different personalities, that suits each other perfectly, for us to witness. Let´s take this show into the last week. Cheers from Denmark and thx for this podcast show.
I’m an introvert too and we are always misunderstood by extroverts I love Jonas he’s a silent killer 💯
You can tell that he is shy, when he giving interviews, he doesn’t not look into people eyes much. Because he is a shy person. I love how he handles himself. He is one of the best. Like him or not, he deserves respect, this is the tour that not many people can win.
I am 200% of Bini’s fan but I do like jonas , he is a cool guy .. hard worker too .. 🇪🇷🇪🇷💃💃💚💚
Like if he wasn't doping.
Your guys misunderstood introvert with racing style. I am introvert too but when I am at a tennis court, I like to attack. I am more of a offensive player. Jonas' racing strategy just way too boring. I followed every race of Pogi and they were so exciting.
Thanks Johan and JB2 for the conversation. Stage 11 is going to reveal these riders' strength and weakness. There is no hiding in the mountains. The strength of each team will be tested and the best will cone out on top. Excited to see this unfold.
Love the show! So in depth
Merckx rode 96 days in the yellow jersey.
that is definitely a lot, even Lance Armstrong "only" had 83 days.
He was not deemed "Le Cannibale" for nothing! 😉
I honestly don't get the hate towards Jonas, that he only sits on Pogi's wheel. Last year's Tour it was Pogi on Jonas' and Kuss wheel most of the Tour. Just respect they're different riders and have different personalities. Of course in a perfect world it would be exciting if every rider in the peloton was like Pogacar, but that's just not the case. Football would probably also be even more exciting if there was 11 Messi's on the pitch but that will never happen. So let's just enjoy the race and let the best man win without being disrespectful towards any of the riders :-)
We haven’t seen anything yet. The headwind on Galibier was not conducive for attacking. Who will crack first, idk. But get ready for fireworks. Because we all know who will attack first.
Pogi...💥🤯💀
It’s a fascinating Tour this year. I still have to think Pogacar has the edge. Yes Jonas has a history of being strong late in the Tour but this is not a normal year for him. His body was significantly traumatized with fractured ribs, fractured clavicle and a punctured lung/pneumothorax. There is also the surrounding soft tissue injury of skin, muscle, tendons, ligament etc. All that injury requires rest/detraining and energy from body stores to heal. The healing process is a logarithmic one with the initial stages being very rapid but the later gradual stages extending for months. That plus the human species detrains more rapidly and retrains more slowly than many animal species, dogs, cats, horses etc. All this means Jonas body is still utilizing some of its energy to heal his wounds plus his body is not trained to its normal level upon starting the Tour. It’s a toss up as to him improving because he is essentially training during the tour thus improving his body’s efficiency or whether the burden of healing/inactivity plus the enormous demands of the Tour will gradually weaken him over time. Could go either way but we’ll know fairly soon.
Tomorrow is 1 of 7 showdowns we have coming.
How many does Tadej need to win for the Tour? How many does Jonas need to win the Tour? How many does Remco, Primoz, or Carlos need? Love to hear everyone’s opinion!
exactly, but the beauty is the fact that anything can happen. Pog or Remco could have a bad day or crash and boom changes everything. or Roglic and Vinegaard could miraculously have a legendary day. we will see.
@@TheWorldisaLIE2 more likely one of the first two you mentioned has a legendary day based on what has been seen so far.
@@J-cz7yv yes, but also those two are more likely to make mistake’s judging by past performances. the later two are smarter racers, it’s a proven fact.
Smart comment
just love it!
I would like to hear more racing stories from Johan's racing days.
Brains over balls any day of the week and Sunday too
Just a little correction: the Tour de France JB is referring to is NOT the one in 1986, instead it is the one in 1989 (!!!) which ended with a thrilling ITT where leading up to that stage Greg LeMond was behind Laurent Fignon by quite a big margin. By using aero equipment of triathletes he won that stage and finished the whole Tour de France 8 seconds in front of Fignon. Imagine that: riding more than 3200 km with lots of mountains and then losing (or winning) by a margin of only 8 seconds!!!
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Remco stirred shits up.
Because the last 4 TDFs was very respectful and ect.
Until Remco came into the picture. 😂
I love it. They became too soft last years. We watch it for the show. And this is the show.
Sport is better when people have grudges.
@@J-cz7yv matter of opinion.
@@birdofprey108 no, the show is the racing, the last four years were excellent shows and they didn't have any word play.
@@TheWorldisaLIE2 i belive these side situations make the racing aspect even more exciting. just imagine the moment jonas drops remco after him saying he doesn't have balls
IF Pogacar drove off road Jonas would follow
LOL, so true 🤣😂
JV wins the Tour in the final week of racing 🏆
Tomorrow is 1 of 7 showdowns we have coming.
How many does Tadej need to win for the Tour? How many does Jonas need to win the Tour? How many does Remco, Primoz, or Carlos need? Love to hear everyone’s opinion!
Sport unite people.. Ertreans are united forever.. From now on
Jonas is recovering from recent injury his only hope is to pace and wait for Pog to hopefully have a bad day. Excellent job JB2
@@jimwhitehead6265 maybe correct! What I find funny in all of this 7 minute in two days talk is that Jonas did not directly cause Pog to crack on Col de La Loze. He just blew up at the foothills of the climb.
This year it seems like he will no blowup but instead someone will have to make him crack by putting a move in. Can’t wait for the fireworks to begin. Tomorrow is 1st of 7 tests.
Please try to get Wiggins more. He's fantastic
I agree and I suspect he's not cheap, but I also suspect that Lance can afford it. Heck, he should get Chris Froome on the show.
We have had Froome on the show.
There's a saying when two dogs fight over a bone, the third one darts in and steals it away. I don't know if the same will happen between Pog and Jonas, with either Remco or Rog springing a surprise on them in one of the coming mountain stages. It seems unlikely, but then we have seen stranger things in cycling.
Stage 11,14,15 ,18,19 ,20 and the ITT on the 21st stage have 2/3 of the elevations in this tour!
I do not think something will happen in stage 18 though. Definitely breakaway. GC guys would be stupid to attack there cuz of three super hard stages are incoming after that.
@@fangru7294ffs OP never said anything would happen stage 18 tho🤦♂️🤦♂️
According to Google, 😮 Eddie Merckx wore the yellow jersey in TDF a record 96 days 😮
Wow
Why was Biniam Girmay not relegated because he changed the lane and boxed in Ackermann and also give onother guy a shoulder push arround 250-350 m before the finish?
Jasper lent him a get outta jail free card....
WHY IS IT A SHAME ?..CYCLING HAS RULES AND PHILLIPSON DESERVE TO BE RELEGATED. He been bullying his way in the peleton for quite a while., its a SHAME he keeps getting away with it
Do you think TdF should add the Golden Kilometer to some of the sprint days. It would relieve some of the boredom. They could have each team designate one rider eligible for the points. This way a break away can go and it wouldn't spoil the show.
Lovee both of them (pog&remco). We need fire at the tour
matter of opinion. I prefer Vingegaard and Roglic, much more mature/classy.
In today’s world drama and trash talking rule which to me is a step backward for humanity.
@@TheWorldisaLIE2 the result of being mature is loss of fans after they sleep during game.
@@justinsang4869 doesn’t matter, fans in cycling are not buying tickets to watch or jerseys.
LET US NOT FORGET!🙄😉😀
stage 11 may not separate the GC but it may indicate their intentions and more so where Jonas is with his race fitness, would like to see Remco go on the attack just to add more spice. I'm reckoning on stages 14 and 15 to start showing gaps (possible the defining gap) but hopefully not and this goes all the way to the final stage (just for us fans).
Jasper looked very relexed at MVDP wheel, MVDP was working very hard. The speed diference is huge between them. Btw, when will Johann reviel the device results that he promised he would?
MVDP first caught Pogi in Milan-San Remo. So not just leading out Philipsen.
aside from double exposure for sponsors, why Joyan left from the main course?
If you guys want non stop action forget road racing and watch mtb or cyclocross.
None of this 120 mile bs only to be decided in less than the last 1K
I don't know if Remco can stay on Pogi-Vingo tandem in Puy-Mary/Pas-De-Peyrol. Rogla is keeping his rust legs warm. Ineos will help CRC on this stage. Almeida-Ayuso-Yates will explode this climbs so watch out.
whether you like him or not. straight up flat sprint jp is the best in the world for a few years running. the sport needs villains and heroes and characters. personally love him.
Yea but his lead out man is the world champ ..
Is not about liking or disliking .. it’s about other riders safety .. he is a bully , you can’t be pushing ppl in to the barriers.. 70% of cycling fans do not agree with the way he rides ..
Even if Pogacar has already the Giro d'italia in his legs ,due to the crash of Jonas and his lack of time to stick to planned preparations for this tour, Pogacar or even Remco or another rider arrives to beat Jonas Vingegaard is absolutely no shame for him, after he had endured to be in the tour fighting for the first place is already a great achievement!
Stop the downplay. All Jonas fans were making fun of and they still are to this day of Tadej losing last year, including his bad day even though he had same time preparation as Jonas had this year. So I want you to keep same energy.
@@fangru7294 wtf are you talking about?🤡 Jonas was literally in the hospital and hasn't raced in months prior to this tour🤦♂️🤦♂️ Delusional dosser
Philipsen was frustrated with the lead out, till today.
Soler on breakaway tomorrow? Agree?
Like JB’s shirt.
WEDU flannel in our store. One of my fav pieces we have ever done
Jonas Vingegaard is more like Alberto Contador. He is very family oriented and seriously somewhat fragile sometimes.
Teams that could end up with no stage wins. Ineos EF, Visma Leaseabike
Bini or Tom Pidcok?
Girmay is more versatile of a rider in comparison to Philipsen.
Jasper won MSR and second in PR ..
Bini can win uphill more
Philipsen would be close to green if he didn’t get relegated
Jonas "always"gets stronger in the last week. This year probably a lot stronger. Poga "always" gets weaker ..
What is WvA doing in this TdF so far? Nobody is talking about him nor his performance. He hasn't seriously tried to win a sprint. He isn't doing anything extra for Jonas. What is his plan? 3rd week?
Final TT maybe? (Or is it way too undulating??)
He's definitely worked for Jonas and the team even going back for bottles etc and especially on the gravel. He may not be doing much for himself or be in form to win sprints but he's working.
@@Jeromin I mean compared to last year though. He isn't doing much. Last year he was in sprints and was working tirelessly even on climbs
@@LS1conehead Way too hard for him i'd guess. Quite a lot of climbing to do.
He is focused on Olympics. He vame to TdF just to train and get into a shape.
Johan saying tadejs biggest rival is himself never makes sense to me he has lost to tours to jonas jonas is the only one in the world that can produce same watts as tadej only difference is jonas has been more consistent in the tour last two years we will see this tour but put some respect on vinge
The elephant in the room that no one is taking about
Poga did the Giro!!!
I don’t care who you are , you will accumulate fatigue !!! I think Tade is going to feel the 3rd week
Probably not
Nah, I doubt it....UAE will have his dosages just perfect.
pogacar currently looks very tired and sad. He's not as laid back as usual. The Giro is in his legs. It will be very difficult for him, especially on the long, high climbs against Vingegaard
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If I were UAE team director, I just go ahead copy and paste Visma plan! have Tadej, Yates, Mikkel wheel suck Jonas every stage and all day long, in current form, it is very unlikely that Jonas can drop Tadej! it will be the most boring tdf ever! but who care! 2 can play the game!
Say “I have no idea how bike racing tactics work without saying it”.
@@JoeBoyle-pe5mw Its actually feasible cuz Jonas is behind with a time so at some point he has to attack...