Glad James is still trying to help Harry, and he's actually making good legit points that could be used in Harry's defence. Don't get why Tony completely refuses to listen to him here though I'm not particularly surprised. But with Sami interfering things probably aren't going to go according to plan for anyone involved.
Not that impressed with James. Harry being the third person launched as Amy`s killer, James should be able to scare off the CPS from any idea of raising charges against Harry, by simply leaking the evidence pointing towards both Ste and Armstrong to the press. Forcing the CPS to either release/leak more of the evidence they felt they had against Harry to the press, so James would not be surprised by them should the case go to court. Or James would have succeeded in establishing alternative suspects in Harry`s case, increasing the likelihood he would be able to establish enough reasonable doubt for the jurors to return with a not guilty verdict. Or the CPS realizing as much, and therefore opting against charging and prosecuting Harry for Amy`s death at all - but instead release him without charges.
So this is the issue I'm having with this storyline. Amy was autopsied twice and apparently the doctor was so inept that they couldn't see the cause of death was strangulation, even tho such a death leaves very clear signs. Can you say plot hole?
the more this story-line drags on the more am falling in love with jarry,at first i was just thinking it was going to be a fling and then i will get my starry back but omg James is winning me over,the dedication and loyalty to harry and the length he is willing to go to in defense of harry ,there is only one love that remind me of that,Brendan love for ste.what was that Brendan said about what it means to really love somebody,you will do anything for them,whether they were in your life or not,whether they wanted you or not.harry wake up before its too late ,james is the man for you.i guess have jumped ship.
but the difference between stendan and jarry is that ste always loved brendan whether he wanted or not and whether he wanted it to be true or not. but harry? when did he say "i love you" to james? or show it? or did i miss that? he just wanted ste back and being with ste... and james has always made a fool of himself by telling him private things and show him what he means to him (at christmas for example). harry isn't good for james and i feel sorry for james that he doesn't get over him.
am not those stendan shippers who believe that ste loved brendan from that very first kiss,i believe for a while it was just lust,and and he thought him hot.so no ,i dont believe ste loved him from the beginning. harry is atrracted to james,its plain as day when he looks at him,even back in the day with 10000 payoff their flirting revealed a mutual attraction ,as feelings go James,harry is still too in love with ste to really give those feelings a chance to grow,everytime harry need someone he goes to james,not ste ,not his father,james ,because deep down he trust him to come through for him,he respect and cares about james too because otherwise he would have just used him and taken advantage of his feelings when he offered that harry could stay with him,but he didnt,even this last one,he is still honest with him about how he feels even if he is opening up to the idea of them
Bad Tony! What kind of father is he? If England still had the death penalty Tony would pull the switch. Harry will not survive in prison. He'll end up someone's b*tch. I'm rooting for James & Harry!
It is not realistic Tony would not realize the difference between what Harry confessed to have done, and what the police is intent on charging him with. For him to claim that Harry should confess to something he didn`t do, makes no sense at all. I`m not rooting James & Harry, though. James is a psychopath who just wants to control Harry - and by having Harry in the position he is now, will have Harry in his own palm. Had he done his job properly, he also should have convinced the CPS not to charge or prosecute Harry by now. The state of the evidence not being the most convincing, and so poorly not one but two other suspects has already been launched as possible killers. One of them (Ste) even got prosecuted - but was found not guilty.
Ok I feel a tiny bit sorry for Peri because she did apologize to her mum and I know that it doesn't change anything she has done but Leela didn't make an effort either because she is still her daughter. Their whole family has problems. Ste trying to be a peace maker is so hypocritical especially since he has been hiding an important secret too. I am on team Jarry. James is the only one on Harry's side. While everyone thinks he is Amy's killer the real one got away. P.S Sami is an ass. I started to dislike him ever since he lied about Kim and now he is the one making those threatening letters.
I agree Leela did wrong in kicking her out. But the way Peri seems to conduct herself these days is well beyond beyond, to put it like that. She is a case for the mental health branch of the health service. The lies is one thing, but her manipulations and intent to cause hurt and upset a lot more severe. She is showing clear psychopathic tendencies - when she is angry or feel under attack. But reverses into a little girl when she is upset and feel lonely or isolated. Leela should have sent her to Farrah, or one of her colleagues.
LOL Harry saying how "messed up" he and James would be as a couple🤣. Understatement of the century. But I'm so happy James is helping him and seems to be the only person in this ridiculous story who doesn't want Harry to rot in prison for 20 years. Tony would rather keep his misguided sense of "justice" than spare a thought for the welfare of his son. He doesn't even seem to care that Harry is barely holding it together.
oh yeah poor harry... shows no responsibility and/or regret. just self-pity and makes other people resposible for his own mistakes not to mention uses other people (especially james) ... don't get why he still hepls him. how "in love" and blind because of that can a person be??? hope he wakes up one day and dumps harry! after diane tony is the only one right now who thinks.
James is finally behaving like a defense lawyer - now Sami is the one gambling both his job and career. Hate mail? Seriously, that is just so daft. There are much safer and more guaranteed ways of stealing clients. Harry now facing up to 20 years, it is obvious the police believe he intentionally killed Amy. Which again means they believe he inflicted all of the injuries, marks and scars on Amy`s body, and that neither of the two autopsies has managed to establish Amy sustained two sets of injuries that night (first the fall when Harry was there, and later whatever Ryan did to her in addition to holding her in tight grip). Cause if they had, they would have realized Harry could not have known about the first set of injuries (head trauma), had he not been there and witness it happen - and since Amy at that time sustained only one blow to her head, he couldn`t have inflicted the other injuries she sustained later, since it would make no sense he first struck her, before waiting around to see if she woke up - and when she did, he decided to kill her. He would either have killed her sooner, or he spoke the truth when he said he got scarred and left. In which case the real killer had to have been whoever inflicted the last set of injuries to Amy`s body. Any decent defense lawyer would have had Harry released and out of suspicion by now. Why James wants to wait for the trial, instead of working on the CPS, and tire them down with claims they haven`t got a proper case against Harry, repeat those claims to the press so the press also start to ask awkward question the CPS don`t have answers to - and that way undermine the CPS` case before they even have had a chance to present it in court, is beyond me. High profile murder cases (and after first Ste and then Armstrong launched as suspects, before Harry now, high profile it would have been indeed) are tried in the media - not in court. That is just the sad way the world works these days.
The ending though... k... I tried not to cry or feel too bad for Peri but the song and her being so alone (I know the feeling) got me bawling. But what does her not being there (the lady in the yellow jacket was still in the same spot) signify? Like... why did she just disappear?
What kind of dad is Tony? Dude... he's doesn't care about his son's safety or anything... does he think prison is the lollipop land? Harry won't survive 2 years let alone 20... and the way he reacted to that chair makes me think things are already happening to him but some letters to Tony's perfect little family are worth more than Harry's well being and sanity... got it. Also, I know Peri is a fuck up but she doesn't deserve this, no one deserves this, Diane is fucked. I wanna fight Sami... I really don't like him, ugh.
have never seen a parent so willing to throw their child in jail without even an a tempt at a fight.how can he be so rational about this,and harry is so desperate to not lose his fathers love that he will do just about anything to keep it.except i do not think tony loves him,his actions are tooo rational,its like he is making a decision that going to affect a perfect stranger life and not his own child,there is no gut emotional reaction to losing his harry,and everything harry is going to go through ,its like he is sending harry on a vacation and not jail,how exactly is he sure that harry will actually get out of jail alive.
Shining Armor he plays a cool father but hez the worst father I know ryt now. Father's should protect their children no matter what they've done. But Tony .???? But let's hope Harry will not rott in jail coz it breaks my heart to see him in there
Shining Armor he plays a cool father but hez the worst father I know ryt now. Father's should protect their children no matter what they've done. But Tony .???? But let's hope Harry will not rott in jail coz it breaks my heart to see him in there
he should be broken down right now at the prospect of his child going to jail for 20 years,no father would hand over their kids to such a sentence without even a tear,like have seen father crying on tv because their children caused accidents where people died.this is the worst thing that could happen to a parent,a good kid who as never really been into criminal things life is essentially over because of an accident .and tony is acting as if harry is some seasoned criminal who need to pay for his crimes.
I don't get which days does episodes related to ste and harry characters run like sometimes for like a month there's these different story running which has nothing to do with ste and harry characters like another series under the same name
That was so sweet when Harry said he had no one and James said you have me:)James made some good points Ryan is gone,evidence was tampered with.James believes in Harry.I'm disappointed in Tony he can see Harry jumping at the sound of a chair,saying he could be in jail for 20 yrs and acts like he could care less.I hope Harry gets out of prison and #Jarry become a proper couple.
I don`t get why you are so eager to pair Harry up with the guy who exploited him. First by taking advantage of the fact Harry and Ste was homeless, by offering Harry £10 000 for a night of sex - only to blackmail Harry about it afterwards. He made Harry betray his own family by forcing him to persuade his father to let James` own mother take over Tony`s business. I honestly cant imagine how such a relationship could work. Harry is more likely of wanting to kill James, than to fall in love with him. A relationship with James would just be like being a prostitute 24/7 for one client for Harry. You almost have to hate the guy to wish something like that on him.
I agree with everything you said except Jarry could never be a "proper" couple cos it's one-sided and their past is too messy with James preying on him, using him, blackmailing him, etc.
Yeonhee Ahn true proper couple is wishful thinking on my part.Who doesn't have a messy past on Hollyoaks.Feelings can change Ste fancies Ryan at the moment.Who killed Amy is going to drag on and on.Harry could fancy James they become lovers.
Erica Love I know that Monday’s episodes are usually uploaded on Friday and Tuesdays on Monday. But since there isn’t an upload of a first look for Tuesday on Monday. I’m just assuming they weren’t on on yesterday’s first look.
I would like to ship Jarry but they’re gonna ruin it just like they did with Starry or McNight... this will only bring pain and suffering to James and Harry.... unfortunately this is a soap opera, there is no happy ending or happy wedding in Hollyoaks history... just temporary love... 💔
I dont care about McKnight or jarry. I want starry back . They are perfect for each other so no more jarry and whatever else ships. It's supposed to be starry . I don't care what other people say . I'm a starry shipper . STARRY TILL THE END !
Peri is not sorry. I'm glad Prince dumps Peri. I'm glad everyone hates Peri. She deserves it. Teenagers are so stupid. She should of think before she lies. I don't feel sorry for her at all. Poor Lily.
Glad James is still trying to help Harry, and he's actually making good legit points that could be used in Harry's defence. Don't get why Tony completely refuses to listen to him here though I'm not particularly surprised. But with Sami interfering things probably aren't going to go according to plan for anyone involved.
Not that impressed with James. Harry being the third person launched as Amy`s killer, James should be able to scare off the CPS from any idea of raising charges against Harry, by simply leaking the evidence pointing towards both Ste and Armstrong to the press. Forcing the CPS to either release/leak more of the evidence they felt they had against Harry to the press, so James would not be surprised by them should the case go to court. Or James would have succeeded in establishing alternative suspects in Harry`s case, increasing the likelihood he would be able to establish enough reasonable doubt for the jurors to return with a not guilty verdict. Or the CPS realizing as much, and therefore opting against charging and prosecuting Harry for Amy`s death at all - but instead release him without charges.
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The song at the end is "let her go"
Wow ste is looking more handsome everytime I see him
Ayeshia Mansfield I wholeheartedly 1000% agree with you. He is just getting more handsome with age.
I also agree . I love him sooooo much ! # starry
Ayeshia Mansfield hahaha same
i agree! he is gorgeous :-)
I agree lol. Hahaha but he's a kind of annoying. He doesnt even visited Harry once since Harry put in jail.
So this is the issue I'm having with this storyline. Amy was autopsied twice and apparently the doctor was so inept that they couldn't see the cause of death was strangulation, even tho such a death leaves very clear signs. Can you say plot hole?
i have screamed this to the top of the mountains ,it is the biggest plot hole in this whole drama.
I can’t wait to see Sami get what he deserves going after James is one thing, but hurting Harry just to hurt James.
the more this story-line drags on the more am falling in love with jarry,at first i was just thinking it was going to be a fling and then i will get my starry back but omg James is winning me over,the dedication and loyalty to harry and the length he is willing to go to in defense of harry ,there is only one love that remind me of that,Brendan love for ste.what was that Brendan said about what it means to really love somebody,you will do anything for them,whether they were in your life or not,whether they wanted you or not.harry wake up before its too late ,james is the man for you.i guess have jumped ship.
but the difference between stendan and jarry is that ste always loved brendan whether he wanted or not and whether he wanted it to be true or not. but harry? when did he say "i love you" to james? or show it? or did i miss that? he just wanted ste back and being with ste... and james has always made a fool of himself by telling him private things and show him what he means to him (at christmas for example). harry isn't good for james and i feel sorry for james that he doesn't get over him.
am not those stendan shippers who believe that ste loved brendan from that very first kiss,i believe for a while it was just lust,and and he thought him hot.so no ,i dont believe ste loved him from the beginning. harry is atrracted to james,its plain as day when he looks at him,even back in the day with 10000 payoff their flirting revealed a mutual attraction ,as feelings go James,harry is still too in love with ste to really give those feelings a chance to grow,everytime harry need someone he goes to james,not ste ,not his father,james ,because deep down he trust him to come through for him,he respect and cares about james too because otherwise he would have just used him and taken advantage of his feelings when he offered that harry could stay with him,but he didnt,even this last one,he is still honest with him about how he feels even if he is opening up to the idea of them
Shining Armor best thing I ever read so true #jarry
Bad Tony! What kind of father is he? If England still had the death penalty Tony would pull the switch. Harry will not survive in prison. He'll end up someone's b*tch. I'm rooting for James & Harry!
It is not realistic Tony would not realize the difference between what Harry confessed to have done, and what the police is intent on charging him with. For him to claim that Harry should confess to something he didn`t do, makes no sense at all. I`m not rooting James & Harry, though. James is a psychopath who just wants to control Harry - and by having Harry in the position he is now, will have Harry in his own palm. Had he done his job properly, he also should have convinced the CPS not to charge or prosecute Harry by now. The state of the evidence not being the most convincing, and so poorly not one but two other suspects has already been launched as possible killers. One of them (Ste) even got prosecuted - but was found not guilty.
Tvjunkieful12 yeah, you're right
And i don't trust james, he want to revenge to ste.
Love ste and Harry's as couple but ste don't deserve harry........he chatted on him...poor harry
Yes Leelah!
Ok I feel a tiny bit sorry for Peri because she did apologize to her mum and I know that it doesn't change anything she has done but Leela didn't make an effort either because she is still her daughter. Their whole family has problems. Ste trying to be a peace maker is so hypocritical especially since he has been hiding an important secret too. I am on team Jarry. James is the only one on Harry's side. While everyone thinks he is Amy's killer the real one got away. P.S Sami is an ass. I started to dislike him ever since he lied about Kim and now he is the one making those threatening letters.
I agree Leela did wrong in kicking her out. But the way Peri seems to conduct herself these days is well beyond beyond, to put it like that. She is a case for the mental health branch of the health service. The lies is one thing, but her manipulations and intent to cause hurt and upset a lot more severe. She is showing clear psychopathic tendencies - when she is angry or feel under attack. But reverses into a little girl when she is upset and feel lonely or isolated. Leela should have sent her to Farrah, or one of her colleagues.
I felt sorry for Peri since Diane told her to lie!
anirai1516 I agree!
I agree with everything u said except the jarry part . I'm a starry shipper so ... Yeah .
U sure rite Erica love, I so love him
Thx
I want starry back ! . Also just wondering the time and/or date for the next episode pls ???
not gonna lie I'm feeling bad for peri even tho she brought most of it on her own
LOL Harry saying how "messed up" he and James would be as a couple🤣. Understatement of the century. But I'm so happy James is helping him and seems to be the only person in this ridiculous story who doesn't want Harry to rot in prison for 20 years. Tony would rather keep his misguided sense of "justice" than spare a thought for the welfare of his son. He doesn't even seem to care that Harry is barely holding it together.
oh yeah poor harry... shows no responsibility and/or regret. just self-pity and makes other people resposible for his own mistakes not to mention uses other people (especially james) ... don't get why he still hepls him. how "in love" and blind because of that can a person be??? hope he wakes up one day and dumps harry! after diane tony is the only one right now who thinks.
keep smile I couldn't possibly disagree with you more😂 we are absolute opposites lol. But I do agree that James and Harry would be an awful couple😊
James is finally behaving like a defense lawyer - now Sami is the one gambling both his job and career. Hate mail? Seriously, that is just so daft. There are much safer and more guaranteed ways of stealing clients.
Harry now facing up to 20 years, it is obvious the police believe he intentionally killed Amy. Which again means they believe he inflicted all of the injuries, marks and scars on Amy`s body, and that neither of the two autopsies has managed to establish Amy sustained two sets of injuries that night (first the fall when Harry was there, and later whatever Ryan did to her in addition to holding her in tight grip). Cause if they had, they would have realized Harry could not have known about the first set of injuries (head trauma), had he not been there and witness it happen - and since Amy at that time sustained only one blow to her head, he couldn`t have inflicted the other injuries she sustained later, since it would make no sense he first struck her, before waiting around to see if she woke up - and when she did, he decided to kill her. He would either have killed her sooner, or he spoke the truth when he said he got scarred and left. In which case the real killer had to have been whoever inflicted the last set of injuries to Amy`s body.
Any decent defense lawyer would have had Harry released and out of suspicion by now. Why James wants to wait for the trial, instead of working on the CPS, and tire them down with claims they haven`t got a proper case against Harry, repeat those claims to the press so the press also start to ask awkward question the CPS don`t have answers to - and that way undermine the CPS` case before they even have had a chance to present it in court, is beyond me. High profile murder cases (and after first Ste and then Armstrong launched as suspects, before Harry now, high profile it would have been indeed) are tried in the media - not in court. That is just the sad way the world works these days.
The ending though... k... I tried not to cry or feel too bad for Peri but the song and her being so alone (I know the feeling) got me bawling. But what does her not being there (the lady in the yellow jacket was still in the same spot) signify? Like... why did she just disappear?
Interesting that ste compared peri to himself as a teen.
I like Tony but I don’t know why the heck he wants Harry to plead guilty.
What kind of dad is Tony? Dude... he's doesn't care about his son's safety or anything... does he think prison is the lollipop land? Harry won't survive 2 years let alone 20... and the way he reacted to that chair makes me think things are already happening to him but some letters to Tony's perfect little family are worth more than Harry's well being and sanity... got it. Also, I know Peri is a fuck up but she doesn't deserve this, no one deserves this, Diane is fucked. I wanna fight Sami... I really don't like him, ugh.
What's wrong with Tony????
I missed Harry and James
And it's high time Harry understands that James is there for him...and no one else.
have never seen a parent so willing to throw their child in jail without even an a tempt at a fight.how can he be so rational about this,and harry is so desperate to not lose his fathers love that he will do just about anything to keep it.except i do not think tony loves him,his actions are tooo rational,its like he is making a decision that going to affect a perfect stranger life and not his own child,there is no gut emotional reaction to losing his harry,and everything harry is going to go through ,its like he is sending harry on a vacation and not jail,how exactly is he sure that harry will actually get out of jail alive.
Shining Armor he plays a cool father but hez the worst father I know ryt now. Father's should protect their children no matter what they've done. But Tony .???? But let's hope Harry will not rott in jail coz it breaks my heart to see him in there
Shining Armor he plays a cool father but hez the worst father I know ryt now. Father's should protect their children no matter what they've done. But Tony .???? But let's hope Harry will not rott in jail coz it breaks my heart to see him in there
he should be broken down right now at the prospect of his child going to jail for 20 years,no father would hand over their kids to such a sentence without even a tear,like have seen father crying on tv because their children caused accidents where people died.this is the worst thing that could happen to a parent,a good kid who as never really been into criminal things life is essentially over because of an accident .and tony is acting as if harry is some seasoned criminal who need to pay for his crimes.
Aren't the families Kida like Romeo & Juliet??
I don't know why ste putting himself on dangers ùrrgghhh
I hope that they will comeback #starry💖
Al Otaku I totally agree #starry too ❤💖
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I don't get which days does episodes related to ste and harry characters run like sometimes for like a month there's these different story running which has nothing to do with ste and harry characters like another series under the same name
The show is on everyday but I just post the episode/clips of Starry when they are on. I don't post when they aren't on that episode.
ok thnx cupcakes
I never thought I’d say this but I want Ryan back
That was so sweet when Harry said he had no one and James said you have me:)James made some good points Ryan is gone,evidence was tampered with.James believes in Harry.I'm disappointed in Tony he can see Harry jumping at the sound of a chair,saying he could be in jail for 20 yrs and acts like he could care less.I hope Harry gets out of prison and #Jarry become a proper couple.
I don`t get why you are so eager to pair Harry up with the guy who exploited him. First by taking advantage of the fact Harry and Ste was homeless, by offering Harry £10 000 for a night of sex - only to blackmail Harry about it afterwards. He made Harry betray his own family by forcing him to persuade his father to let James` own mother take over Tony`s business. I honestly cant imagine how such a relationship could work. Harry is more likely of wanting to kill James, than to fall in love with him. A relationship with James would just be like being a prostitute 24/7 for one client for Harry. You almost have to hate the guy to wish something like that on him.
Tvjunkieful12 sometimes or maybe all the time idk it feels like you take this show too seriously.
I agree with everything you said except Jarry could never be a "proper" couple cos it's one-sided and their past is too messy with James preying on him, using him, blackmailing him, etc.
Yeonhee Ahn true proper couple is wishful thinking on my part.Who doesn't have a messy past on Hollyoaks.Feelings can change Ste fancies Ryan at the moment.Who killed Amy is going to drag on and on.Harry could fancy James they become lovers.
jwsm2 dont I agree . Especially the #jarry part . I HATE jarry . It's # STARRY . I Need to see ste and Harry back together .
Poor Peri, she's now homeless 😩😭
Leela is here judging peri when she's the one who gave up her son and slept with a married man
Were they not in any episodes today?
What do you mean? They were both in it today just separately.
Erica Love I know that Monday’s episodes are usually uploaded on Friday and Tuesdays on Monday. But since there isn’t an upload of a first look for Tuesday on Monday. I’m just assuming they weren’t on on yesterday’s first look.
yep.
I would like to ship Jarry but they’re gonna ruin it just like they did with Starry or McNight... this will only bring pain and suffering to James and Harry.... unfortunately this is a soap opera, there is no happy ending or happy wedding in Hollyoaks history... just temporary love... 💔
ste ruined mcknight so hes obviously going to ruin jarry.
I dont care about McKnight or jarry. I want starry back . They are perfect for each other so no more jarry and whatever else ships. It's supposed to be starry . I don't care what other people say . I'm a starry shipper . STARRY TILL THE END !
Also I meant no offence amd im sorry if I come off as rude
Roy Flores maybe you're right
Peri is a nasty child, turning out to be like Nico v2
Is her dad dead or in prison
just in jail
“Gossip Girls” Dianne know nothing of Daniel Humphrey
Diane is all better thats was fast 😯😯😯
Yeah
Peri is not sorry.
I'm glad Prince dumps Peri.
I'm glad everyone hates Peri. She deserves it.
Teenagers are so stupid. She should of think before she lies.
I don't feel sorry for her at all.
Poor Lily.
Pleas peri go home ifell bad for you in this video
I’m getting so sick of this show