@gango5040 , that's a bad deal. The Model's are quite powerful, and their roots spread far and wide across most of roblox's military side. They'd surely dislike that.
Just found this video and, wow. It’s truly sad how things ended. I was part of the original Bavaria for a brief time, like around 2014-15 and been actively around the Model affiliated groups since 2014 (like Das Nordland) and it’s so nostalgic. They tried to relaunch Bavaria around 2017 and again in 2019 (even helping a bit with development myself). I was very hyped and there was quite a lot of activity initially, however, for some reason, it died like most WW2 German-based groups nowadays. I heard about this new launch and I was present in the announcement ceremony at the castle but this time as a visitor because I was very skeptical of its success and sadly, that was the case. Bavaria reached its prime long ago, the community itself has decayed a lot after 2017 and it’s simply not the same anymore. Maybe it died for the best.
Can confirm this group was a downfall. I was a developer for the group and built the map all by myself while ajax helped with the layout that you see in the video, they told me I would receive my payment in a few days, however it has been somewhere about 3 months. They scammed me and left no shame behind. Ajax told me he would pay out of his own funds in where he received hundreds of thousands on robux but he just ghosted me and ran off.
Its crazy to see the name of someone I personally knew from Deutches Afrika Korps back in I have no idea when it was so long ago. I just know we used Skype and I was still in Middle School
Wow, this reminds me of when I used to participate in war groups back in 2016-2021. My most memorable and cheerful experience was the Knights Templar Order from the Third Crusade genre. (Lionhearts, as it is more famously known now.) I remember using linked swords, crossbowing people, people being toxic, people complaining, etc. And well, the group now? Well… it’s alive and doing pretty good, but it lost its old good luster for me ever since the launch of Lionhearts. And that’s really how most of us are now, when we return to a war group we haven’t participated in a long time, our old nostalgia and memorable experiences blind us into thinking it’ll be the same as it was, that we’ll get the same dopamine of joy that we fondly remember when we used to have back then. But atlas, we don’t, so then we get disappointed at how things have changed, and well, we sometimes become regretful that we had ever had returned back, instead wishing we had let those cheerful memories bury. But aside from that rambling, this video reminds me of border games that I used to be in, such as many Soviet Union groups that I was in and the Duchy of Austria 1950s and German Empire
Yeah, nostalgia can definitely be like that. Something I've tried to do is allow myself the freedom to be nostalgic over things without letting them hold me back. Sometimes, nostalgia will restrain a person from becoming what they have the ability to be because being stuck in the past means you can never move forward. Nonetheless though, I think the beauty of humanity is that we are going to feel really big emotions sometimes and you just have to get through them and process them. A lot of people try to numb said emotions, but really allowing yourself to experience them - that's art.
The same EXACT thing happened to the LVF, we ran into problems with leadership (Renault) which led to him stealing our only developer which led us to free lancing a bunch of devs and spending a but load of cash on random devs that come and go. The sheer amount of devs we hired was upwards to 30+ just to work on Paris alone and yet we couldn't launch due to the lack of competent devs being within the community anymore. It's such a shame to see what's happening to this once amazing community.
Tubby has now relaunched Model Studios, as of about 3 hours ago, and he says he will be "paying more attention to it." Model Studios is his text RP studio that he neglected, if you don't know what it is. Like 4 years ago, it used to have dozens of players, and would peak at like 100 players, but now they struggle to get 10. In the interview, it also mentions how he got his funds from Model Studios, but never bothered to try to help the studio even though he knew it was struggling a bit. Model Studios is one of the biggest communities in the world of WW2 RP, and it makes a ton of money for Tubby. I think he realized that it could make decent money, which is why he relaunched it. I'm pretty sure he has atleast a million to two million inside of the group. Anyways, good video.
clueless. the 400k that he took out was all that was in model studios. if he had 2 million robux sitting the group wouldve been revitalized and bavaria would’ve been well funded.
@@vk3937 Maybe, but Model Studios sells very expensive game passes, and culminating with funds that have been there for over three years, there has to be more 400k. I also know there is more than 400k because tubby is offering paid development jobs regarding MS currently.
Yeah I use to be in the discord of Model Studios because of the Ardennes which I love at a point but everyone were assholes I asked one question about PTK Because when I played we didn’t have that when I played or I didn’t know about it and some nerd face not joking that was his profile on discord was the biggest asshole ever
was a former armoured corps member in 2023 bavaria and an advisory board member in model studios back in 2021-2022, it was nice to look back on these groups but honestly they were pretty weird and cringe looking back at it now
I know I'm not one to speak, but - the whole idea of Roblox milsims are just inherently cringe. I just try to make the most of the friendships along the way and tend to ignore the people who are overly extreme.
@@Liodite yeah but most of these people who play these games are just kids who are far from being able to join the military so I just ignore it And let them have fun with it I think people are expecting a bit too much from a Roblox group lol
Yes sir. As someone whos been in this group since im 8 I can tell you the following: Owner and the highest of the highest are usually adults. Developers the same. Some even married... Officers are usually kids. Especially in intelligence divisions Clanners are adults NCOs and all of that mostly kids aswell. Now you will notice that the officers and the NCOs are mostly kids but not the ranks higher than them. That is simply because they either stay officers forever or they get discharged because they are inmature. I nevrer saw a kid become the chief of a division. Not even assistant or deputy chief. @@Bread-nx9fo
Man we need to talk some time! First joined USM back in 2015 and have had a history around its community aswell as Bavarias for a long while. I still stick to the community to this day.
I think i was actually a part of a very similar group, to the point where even the gun models and uniforms look litterally the exact same. Got myself a place in the polish motorized vechicle division or whatever and after my sudden promotion, i kinda left the game for a month and came back to find the game dead, my division disbanded and litterally everything that had any connection with the group either abandoned or deleted. Apparently the owner got hacked, something happened between the pepole in charge, they promised that the game would recieve a big update and then bam, silence.
My god. I've actually been really interested in the Model's because it was such a large bloodlineish group and I completely forgot it existed for the better part of a year until I saw this video. Didn't know he started this batshit insane Bavaria up again. I thought this thing ended god knows how long ago.
You should make a video about Duchy of Vienna 1950's if you havent already I'd like to see your take on it. It no longer exists but during 2020 to 2022, everyone had heard of it.
I've surprisingly heard about Duchy of Vienna quite a bit, but I was never actually in it. Is there any plans to revive it? Also, I've heard about it but I don't really know that much on it - what exactly is it?
I was in KonigKibler’s original and ended up joining Bavaria again a few years back before they did… whatever this is. There was rarely any consistency with the leadership. Was all based on a sort of cult of personality and “faith in the plan”
I used to be active in the WW2 groups back in 2017-2020ish with USM1940 and I was there for the fallout when the Models left and the chaos at Fort Bragg, fun times. I also remember being in the 2019 Bavaria for a bit but left as I just found it too repetitive of the USM1940s that I once was in. I also for a bit was a high command in ANZAC and that seems to be the only WW2 group left that's managed to survive all these waves. However, the issue in my opinion is that it's not the mid to late 2010s anymore, the people who played during that age group have long moved on and there is barely any left who have an interest in this. The current generation of roblox plays and I am not trying to sound like a boomer, but they just don't care or have the time and dedication for such an unchanged and time-consuming game and community with the exception being usually the countless Papers Please ripoffs because that actually has substance to it. All in all in my opinion, the WW2 group craze of the 2010s is long dead and now it's silly to try and hang on to that former glory of constantly being at the top for groups when the demographic and interest has long moved on or grown up from this focus. I mean heck your interviews show how old these guys who are running it are, and don't get me wrong well done for their dedication, but hanging around running a Roblox group on a platform aimed towards people aged 8-18 in contrast to the demands of the real world and growing up, well it's just kinda sad and pointless now. Perhaps it's just simply time to let this genre of community drift into the pages of the Roblox Library, instead of trying to keep it going and ruin what little relevance it has any more
That's a pretty good point that a lot of the demographic has grown up, but I do feel like there probably is new kids finding these groups. Obviously, they're not going to be exactly like you guys because of generational shifts - but, I still believe that there's a fair amount of kids with an interest in history who might at least try these groups out. I think they'll probably be a lot less popular than they once were, but they'll stick around.
There was an old group I used to raid a lot as a resistance member and it was called the Prussian Confederation or something, can’t really remember the name, tho what I can remember is always being excited about going on their server when it was full (which was full very often back then) and raid them. I’d find dozens of ways to sneak in by either finding a way over or through an invisible wall or run in when no one was looking. I remember tried killing their emperor for the first time by disguising as a soldier and sneaking into a dinner party, and when I saw my chance, shot him and ran out before they could realize what happened, got killed before I could escape the palace sadly. I’d continue to raid them for years, stealing tanks, ambushing, sniping, stealing planes, etc. the biggest raid I ever did was when a friend of mine invited a whole other group into the server, and it was a huge battle between the GDR (German Democratic Republic) and the Prussian Confederation. The GDR eventually won, won’t ever forget that raid. But sadly some good things come to an end, and pretty soon the group died out and I haven’t done another raid in years cuz no one plays anymore. Best Roblox years of my life, will never forget it.
Prussian Confederation? I was in that one. I think I was some honor guard or smth. They had me guarding big names that I don’t remember. You might’ve killed me a few times when I was a lowly soldier.
As a old field marshal in other group it always ends up like this it shutdowns or joins other bigger group.becoming a field marshal was good but when all of those happens I just quit.
As someone that has tried to coordinate community projects (outside of roblox) before, it really is like herding mice. It's very cool seeing projects succeed but a good amount of them just die before or right after launch.
I get that. I really do wanna see small groups succeed more than anything because they tend to have the best communities. But, I also think in a case like Bavaria, holding leaders responsible is important when they mismanage; even if it does have an adverse affect on the group.
I think I remembered hearing about this guy at some point. I used to do a lot of military larping, mostly Civil War Union but did other eras like WWII Panzer Lehr. Not sure really but ErichModel sounds familiar, but this video reminded me all those times I did that stuff back from 2013-2017. Thanks for the memories haha
My friend owns a napoleonic bavaria it has fallen twice and is being revived once again being the 3rd generation i played in the first generation and the generation as of rn hasnt seen a event in around 1-2 weeks due to development and map building the bavaria is slowly dying after barely rallying any low ranks.
I mean, I wouldn't say it's in a state of disrepair. But, it's definitely a lot different than it was 5, 10 or however many years ago. But, that's with anything; shit changes. And like, we've also gotten a bunch of new technology especially in these last 4ish years or so. That's been really good for a community that was stuck in 2012 for so long. For all the problems the community does have, there are still hundreds if not thousands of new memories to be made because it's never been about the technology, it's about the people around you that make it worthwhile.
@@Liodite i got out of it around the pandemic so I haven’t seen it recently. When I left it was a mess, most groups ended up dead after 3 months or so.
I haven't been involved in Roblox military group shit since like 2017 or something, but I have to say the overlap between these "german" ww2 groups and 13 year old borderline nazis was pretty alarming. I can imagine its much worse nowadays and idk if its like that in this group you talk about but they're generally doomed to be disastrous so I'm not surprised.
I mean, I'm sure a lot of the people you're talking about have grown out of the edgy-Nazi-chud phase and realized, "oh, this shit's stupid," and moved on. But, I wouldn't doubt that a few people have failed to mature mentally and are still out here pushing that kind of thing - regardless, I try to stay away from people and groups like that.
ik this is very off-topic but this vid is probably one of the few videos out there with footage featuring WW2 Battlegrounds (the game seen from 11:15 onwards). I used to play it back in the day but it has since been content deleted. Good times
@@Liodite Me neither tbh, but I checked the group and the Discord, both are gone. I suspect some sort of internal issue. Ik there were issues of exploits and stuff
11:19 ahh Battlegrounds WW2, One of my fav games, I always go for Polish and Finnish armory Wery good game, It was broken for some time due to unknown reasons, good to see it back in action, weapons and uniforms are wonderful Nice to see someone else enjoying it
yeah, true @@Liodite But the map to players ratio is a bit off, I remember when the weapons used to be assets and you had to manually cycle the action on a bolt gun, and the map was tiny, than it went to the 4 buildings and the point in the middle (I had my first hacker encounter there, he gave people penises lol) Then the bigger map, that was the best one honestly, the one when the river was thin, and the Turrets by base and tanks were added in the next version. Now it's more aestetically pleasing but I find it to be way to big. Also the Armory is great though the Finnish armory is empty which is sad because the finns had the coolest armory IMO (and also the best which is a partly a fact) in the whole war. (Take "Frontline Karelia" as an example, which is a game about the continuation war, and has the 2nd best gunplay I've seen in roblox yet) I'm haven't played in really long but I'll happily see the game grow as I've been familiar with it for all of it's life pretty much
I once tried to get in to a high rank in Britain’s royal military XD and when i did the try out i was the worst out of my group, when we got to the physical training i looked awful but the goat who was instructing us still ranked me ( every one eles was already ranked) i just wanted to say that
Bloodlines and stupid pettiness ruined any fun to be had in Roblox military groups, all the fun groups with active communities had what eventually happens to all of them, they grow up and move on from the funny Lego game. Also, not to mention how weird it is that the RWW2 community was at one point mostly ran by adult men when it's a children's website.
bloodlines are probably the silliest thing to come of roblox, they're kinda like royal families - they're nothing "royal" about them, we just act like there is
Man roblox genre groups, they are so fun but the rabbit holes which underlie are huge, I was in a star wars one and what happend in that one was crazy.
Ah ol days of being in organized groups will always be the highlight of my sad life. Now I play Arma and all the groups I was in are dead, even the big ones that used to be cool. =)
Pessimistic, but I do like to believe that the newer generation will sorta keep doing this stuff because there's always a certain niche of kids who will find an interest in historical-ish groups.
@@Liodite Aye.. Hopefully. It will hopefully live on. But I feel I can't be apart of it, mainly because I don't feel like wasting my weekends doing grammar Jack's and faces to be apart of something. And well, just don't have the skills anymore.
jesus, i remember being in the original bavaria after erich decided to give up on his USM 1960s, we were all excited for launch day, only for things to get worse literally on the same day or the day after (i don't recall, it's been a while) time flies dude
Bavaria was that group that definitely intended to be a proper WW2 German group, without the extreme lengths like the Austratt Empre went through. I miss it.
I was involved with the creation of a Group named United States Space Force. I was an admin (or at least a high ranking member). Not a day after its first launch everyone went inactive. I spent money on gamepasses too... The other groups were FBI and DIA but those weren't so disastrous.
i’ve never been involved in the roblox military community but i was involved in the gta 5 online milsim community tho and honestly that was also a mess i was part of a group called black watch and it had 3 versions the og,the one i led,and the last revive where the owner basically said f you to us all and merged into another group where almost everyone was demoted to private on join
Ah, yes. The Model family. I quite miss them. Sad times. I'm not sure if you know them, but I was a part of the Ziereis family and left for another as that also crumbled.
Oh gosh I remember the ROBLOX WW2 groups community. Big names back then Allemand, Allied Airborne, 101st Airborne, US 29th infantry, UDIS, Das Liechtenstein, etc. Then this Model guy came in with the “1940s” groups and came and take over I always assumed cause of good/decent maps and basic group names easy for kids to fine
Innovate or die, and I would particularly stress innovation in the raider side of these games since that’s how they generate revenue and give the group player base things to do.
you know, im sure ALOT of people can tell you about their times in 1 military group or another hell i remember what the Panzer Lahar was around although that group was disbanded and idk why as i was a kid back then but another group i was a part of was the Imperial Eldeltian Military or the IEM for short, i remember i was in the ESS group which was fun and a good way to get rid of the annoying recruits who broke rules
Yeah, it's kinda weird. Back when I originally joined military groups (2016ish), people would get dismissed constantly from tryouts. Nowadays, it's like anyone with four limbs and 20 digits gets in - I'm not sure if it's a shift in culture or just a rise of quotas.
This is my first time hearing of the group. I might've saw an ad or two but i never really pay attention to them. I also haven't played roblox for a year and a half, i no longer have a PC that's able to handle games.
Great video, do you think it would be possible to make a video about very old school roblox war groups like FEAR, RAT, TRA, John Cobras, Vaktovian Empire, etc… since they were pretty massive back in the day and probably have pretty interesting lores
Yo so I was a modeller for this group I made all the helmets, hats and gears. And even did some tanks that never got put into the game. So basically ajaxmodel just kind of dipped with all the fundamentals and I never got paid. He just was ghosting me for weeks before he did what he did. Was excited for the group they had the funds to make it awesome.
@@Liodite The 1st SS Panzer Division Leibstandarte SS "Adolf Hitler", was a unit made in 1933. They were essentially Hitler's personal bodyguard unit. In the Garry's Mod nazi rp community, we call them the statue faction, because they just stand next to doors all day, sometimes escorting VIPs, similar to what you did in the video.
Lio video idea: theres an napoleonic group called men of war, this game has countless groups countless regiments and divisions, the most focused ones are BA and GA aka grandee armee and british army, if you can bring influence to ga's regiment called 57e ill be so glad cause we are struggling and could use your help on staff,ranker,recruitment, problems just ask for "Skeleton and ill answer eventually if im not dying, thanks.
Im still in ErichModel's new and also slowly dying group Model Studios. I absolutely love the community of people their, and theyve launched 2 new games. I joined back in late 2020 to early 2021 and hung around a bit. I'd learned quite a bit about Erich, who now goes by tubby or "tubaye", and I have to honestly say I'm impressed whith what he's done, but he tends to start development on projects, release them, and then say he will further update but leave to die out. There was a point where he left MS for a while to set up a new group by the name of Vanguard Studios with FPS games rather than RP games, but gave up shortly after. In my own opinion, I would say maybe check out MS and the games, and if you really enjoy them, stay along. But just beware of tubby's tendency to hopp off of his projects. (Sorry for the tangent by the way, just wanted to give addition to something I've been part of as I never see stuff close to this)
Yeah, I've heard of both MS and VS, I don't really have the knowledge or experience to speak on Erich, but I can understand the frustration of a game you like dying down due to lack of updates, for sure.
@@Liodite Yeah, it's annoying frankly but I think some other MS higher ups and community members are taking it into their own hands to revive the group and make these games. It's good to see it growing back.
Meant to say @@Liodite, this popped in my recons and I legit got surprised these kind of group still exists today, not for ToS bs but by how old they are at this point. Ya remember BRIANO10 USSF? Stuff like that.
dang I used to be VERY active in USM 1960's and I got really pissed off and betrayed when Erich switched groups with that guy to the 1940s, I feel your pain
I remember playing this and being a border guard i left because it was boring standing around mostly until something happened for such a difficult tryout the duty’s were very boring
That's a big ask, I think it's more Nerfer's thing. I will admit that I definitely liked it from the original, TWA, and the newer version, TGWA, but it's not really my territory.
i remember being a BG and then the shutdown happened, we were in the same tryout in your second attempt and i just remember how bavaria was just failing lmao and then advertised a different group
I've been friends with WernerModel the guy he interviewed at the end for a few years now and I just found this video, had no idea he was 38 he sounded so young bruh
i can relate to trying out for the officer "guard" (on a different game) as a lil kid. i remember getting super frustrated after failing every tryout lol
Fair enough. In my personal experience, groups with under 10k usually are more fun because it's a lot more of a community aspect and a lot less of, "what's the most efficient way to make money?" But, to each their own.
I never knew there was this deep of a rabbit hole for groups like this.
Sometimes, yeah. This is only the tip of the iceberg with the Model family, they have a _lot_ of history.
@@Liodite You should do more videos on the model's.
the roblox wehraboo rabbit hole is endless
@gango5040 , that's a bad deal. The Model's are quite powerful, and their roots spread far and wide across most of roblox's military side. They'd surely dislike that.
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Just found this video and, wow. It’s truly sad how things ended. I was part of the original Bavaria for a brief time, like around 2014-15 and been actively around the Model affiliated groups since 2014 (like Das Nordland) and it’s so nostalgic.
They tried to relaunch Bavaria around 2017 and again in 2019 (even helping a bit with development myself). I was very hyped and there was quite a lot of activity initially, however, for some reason, it died like most WW2 German-based groups nowadays. I heard about this new launch and I was present in the announcement ceremony at the castle but this time as a visitor because I was very skeptical of its success and sadly, that was the case. Bavaria reached its prime long ago, the community itself has decayed a lot after 2017 and it’s simply not the same anymore. Maybe it died for the best.
Unfortunately, Bavaria has had a very similar trend as things go - but, I do like to hope that they can make a lasting group at some point.
back in the cini days
@ianmac1185 If you want to get similar expirience join Teutonnia.
Can confirm this group was a downfall. I was a developer for the group and built the map all by myself while ajax helped with the layout that you see in the video, they told me I would receive my payment in a few days, however it has been somewhere about 3 months. They scammed me and left no shame behind. Ajax told me he would pay out of his own funds in where he received hundreds of thousands on robux but he just ghosted me and ran off.
Sorry to hear that, it really does kinda suck.
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Regarding that are you still mad about how they ghosted on you. Are you gonna make a new game by yourself or do you need help?
Its crazy to see the name of someone I personally knew from Deutches Afrika Korps back in I have no idea when it was so long ago. I just know we used Skype and I was still in Middle School
Always Have a Contract
Actual people living in Bavaria seeing these nerds:
"Look how they massacred my boy!"
Thank god nobody’s touched the region I come from. Aside from Napoleonic groups.
@@rtixboiDutch man?
Wow, this reminds me of when I used to participate in war groups back in 2016-2021.
My most memorable and cheerful experience was the Knights Templar Order from the Third Crusade genre. (Lionhearts, as it is more famously known now.) I remember using linked swords, crossbowing people, people being toxic, people complaining, etc.
And well, the group now? Well… it’s alive and doing pretty good, but it lost its old good luster for me ever since the launch of Lionhearts.
And that’s really how most of us are now, when we return to a war group we haven’t participated in a long time, our old nostalgia and memorable experiences blind us into thinking it’ll be the same as it was, that we’ll get the same dopamine of joy that we fondly remember when we used to have back then. But atlas, we don’t, so then we get disappointed at how things have changed, and well, we sometimes become regretful that we had ever had returned back, instead wishing we had let those cheerful memories bury.
But aside from that rambling, this video reminds me of border games that I used to be in, such as many Soviet Union groups that I was in and the Duchy of Austria 1950s and German Empire
Yeah, nostalgia can definitely be like that. Something I've tried to do is allow myself the freedom to be nostalgic over things without letting them hold me back. Sometimes, nostalgia will restrain a person from becoming what they have the ability to be because being stuck in the past means you can never move forward.
Nonetheless though, I think the beauty of humanity is that we are going to feel really big emotions sometimes and you just have to get through them and process them. A lot of people try to numb said emotions, but really allowing yourself to experience them - that's art.
hey now hold on a second i'm apart of that same group what was your username bruz?
@@dementedchoocken5482 samThekingofdoom
Wait do you know the Wardens of the North?
Oh wow, I managed to get a decent rank in TTC/Lionhearts France, but as the game advanced it lost it's fun to me
expecting anything from ErichModel is like expecting your infant son to know how to speak fluent english the second they're out the womb
my son did!
The same EXACT thing happened to the LVF, we ran into problems with leadership (Renault) which led to him stealing our only developer which led us to free lancing a bunch of devs and spending a but load of cash on random devs that come and go. The sheer amount of devs we hired was upwards to 30+ just to work on Paris alone and yet we couldn't launch due to the lack of competent devs being within the community anymore. It's such a shame to see what's happening to this once amazing community.
First problem was deciding to try and build Paris - that city is a disaster.
me when lakeland
Tubby has now relaunched Model Studios, as of about 3 hours ago, and he says he will be "paying more attention to it." Model Studios is his text RP studio that he neglected, if you don't know what it is. Like 4 years ago, it used to have dozens of players, and would peak at like 100 players, but now they struggle to get 10. In the interview, it also mentions how he got his funds from Model Studios, but never bothered to try to help the studio even though he knew it was struggling a bit.
Model Studios is one of the biggest communities in the world of WW2 RP, and it makes a ton of money for Tubby. I think he realized that it could make decent money, which is why he relaunched it. I'm pretty sure he has atleast a million to two million inside of the group.
Anyways, good video.
Hm, I wonder if he ended up seeing this video and that caused that to happen. How do you know he relaunched the group?
Also, thank you.
clueless. the 400k that he took out was all that was in model studios. if he had 2 million robux sitting the group wouldve been revitalized and bavaria would’ve been well funded.
@@vk3937 Maybe, but Model Studios sells very expensive game passes, and culminating with funds that have been there for over three years, there has to be more 400k. I also know there is more than 400k because tubby is offering paid development jobs regarding MS currently.
I actually was a moderator in Model Studios, never even saw tubby do anything during my stay.
Yeah I use to be in the discord of Model Studios because of the Ardennes which I love at a point but everyone were assholes I asked one question about PTK Because when I played we didn’t have that when I played or I didn’t know about it and some nerd face not joking that was his profile on discord was the biggest asshole ever
was a former armoured corps member in 2023 bavaria and an advisory board member in model studios back in 2021-2022, it was nice to look back on these groups but honestly they were pretty weird and cringe looking back at it now
I know I'm not one to speak, but - the whole idea of Roblox milsims are just inherently cringe. I just try to make the most of the friendships along the way and tend to ignore the people who are overly extreme.
@@Liodite yeah but most of these people who play these games are just kids who are far from being able to join the military so I just ignore it And let them have fun with it
I think people are expecting a bit too much from a Roblox group lol
@@colemorrison8957 They are inherently cringe because 99% of them arent ran by children, but by fully grown adults that cant move on from Roblox.
Yes sir. As someone whos been in this group since im 8 I can tell you the following:
Owner and the highest of the highest are usually adults.
Developers the same. Some even married...
Officers are usually kids. Especially in intelligence divisions
Clanners are adults
NCOs and all of that mostly kids aswell.
Now you will notice that the officers and the NCOs are mostly kids but not the ranks higher than them. That is simply because they either stay officers forever or they get discharged because they are inmature. I nevrer saw a kid become the chief of a division. Not even assistant or deputy chief. @@Bread-nx9fo
these groups* Also meant to write 9
Man we need to talk some time! First joined USM back in 2015 and have had a history around its community aswell as Bavarias for a long while. I still stick to the community to this day.
I think i was actually a part of a very similar group, to the point where even the gun models and uniforms look litterally the exact same. Got myself a place in the polish motorized vechicle division or whatever and after my sudden promotion, i kinda left the game for a month and came back to find the game dead, my division disbanded and litterally everything that had any connection with the group either abandoned or deleted. Apparently the owner got hacked, something happened between the pepole in charge, they promised that the game would recieve a big update and then bam, silence.
My god. I've actually been really interested in the Model's because it was such a large bloodlineish group and I completely forgot it existed for the better part of a year until I saw this video. Didn't know he started this batshit insane Bavaria up again. I thought this thing ended god knows how long ago.
Bavaria is like the fan from Five Nights at Freddy's, it just always seems to return.
I met one and uhh.. hated him.
You should make a video about Duchy of Vienna 1950's if you havent already I'd like to see your take on it. It no longer exists but during 2020 to 2022, everyone had heard of it.
I use to play in 2021
Nord Loyalitat moment
bro if he makes a DOV video i will sub
do it
I've surprisingly heard about Duchy of Vienna quite a bit, but I was never actually in it. Is there any plans to revive it? Also, I've heard about it but I don't really know that much on it - what exactly is it?
I was in KonigKibler’s original and ended up joining Bavaria again a few years back before they did… whatever this is. There was rarely any consistency with the leadership. Was all based on a sort of cult of personality and “faith in the plan”
Sounds a lot like religion.
This was the greatest day in bavarian history, will never forget this day.
Truly one of the days in Bavarian history.
@@LioditeYou deserve way more subscribers.
@@upsidedowntriangle Thank you!
@@Lioditei Can Say, this is the worst version of Bavaria, welp the better one is state of bavaria in germany as a bunderschlander
I used to be active in the WW2 groups back in 2017-2020ish with USM1940 and I was there for the fallout when the Models left and the chaos at Fort Bragg, fun times. I also remember being in the 2019 Bavaria for a bit but left as I just found it too repetitive of the USM1940s that I once was in. I also for a bit was a high command in ANZAC and that seems to be the only WW2 group left that's managed to survive all these waves. However, the issue in my opinion is that it's not the mid to late 2010s anymore, the people who played during that age group have long moved on and there is barely any left who have an interest in this. The current generation of roblox plays and I am not trying to sound like a boomer, but they just don't care or have the time and dedication for such an unchanged and time-consuming game and community with the exception being usually the countless Papers Please ripoffs because that actually has substance to it.
All in all in my opinion, the WW2 group craze of the 2010s is long dead and now it's silly to try and hang on to that former glory of constantly being at the top for groups when the demographic and interest has long moved on or grown up from this focus.
I mean heck your interviews show how old these guys who are running it are, and don't get me wrong well done for their dedication, but hanging around running a Roblox group on a platform aimed towards people aged 8-18 in contrast to the demands of the real world and growing up, well it's just kinda sad and pointless now.
Perhaps it's just simply time to let this genre of community drift into the pages of the Roblox Library, instead of trying to keep it going and ruin what little relevance it has any more
That's a pretty good point that a lot of the demographic has grown up, but I do feel like there probably is new kids finding these groups. Obviously, they're not going to be exactly like you guys because of generational shifts - but, I still believe that there's a fair amount of kids with an interest in history who might at least try these groups out. I think they'll probably be a lot less popular than they once were, but they'll stick around.
12:02
*"It's not camping its tactical positioning"*
-Tank Fish
I mean, he isn't wrong.
There was an old group I used to raid a lot as a resistance member and it was called the Prussian Confederation or something, can’t really remember the name, tho what I can remember is always being excited about going on their server when it was full (which was full very often back then) and raid them. I’d find dozens of ways to sneak in by either finding a way over or through an invisible wall or run in when no one was looking. I remember tried killing their emperor for the first time by disguising as a soldier and sneaking into a dinner party, and when I saw my chance, shot him and ran out before they could realize what happened, got killed before I could escape the palace sadly. I’d continue to raid them for years, stealing tanks, ambushing, sniping, stealing planes, etc. the biggest raid I ever did was when a friend of mine invited a whole other group into the server, and it was a huge battle between the GDR (German Democratic Republic) and the Prussian Confederation. The GDR eventually won, won’t ever forget that raid. But sadly some good things come to an end, and pretty soon the group died out and I haven’t done another raid in years cuz no one plays anymore. Best Roblox years of my life, will never forget it.
Prussian Confederation? I was in that one. I think I was some honor guard or smth. They had me guarding big names that I don’t remember. You might’ve killed me a few times when I was a lowly soldier.
@@theeagle4463 does GoldenBoy ring a bell? That was my username at the time
Lee Harvey Oswald, is that you?
Your name sounds familiar to me but I wasnt in that group. @@philsfortress
As Teutonnia member I can confirm that you're literally the average raider joining our game. These guys can find sneaky paths everywhere.
As a old field marshal in other group it always ends up like this it shutdowns or joins other bigger group.becoming a field marshal was good but when all of those happens I just quit.
Yeah, that's unfortunately how it is. I did hear that another version of Bavaria came out but basically got shutdown almost as soon as it started.
Never heard of this group. I love this video. You have some a talent!
Thank you, I appreciate that!
As someone that has tried to coordinate community projects (outside of roblox) before, it really is like herding mice. It's very cool seeing projects succeed but a good amount of them just die before or right after launch.
I get that. I really do wanna see small groups succeed more than anything because they tend to have the best communities. But, I also think in a case like Bavaria, holding leaders responsible is important when they mismanage; even if it does have an adverse affect on the group.
I think I remembered hearing about this guy at some point. I used to do a lot of military larping, mostly Civil War Union but did other eras like WWII Panzer Lehr. Not sure really but ErichModel sounds familiar, but this video reminded me all those times I did that stuff back from 2013-2017. Thanks for the memories haha
yeah, erich used to lead usm 1940s as well before he moved on from the genre
Well camping does actually work well with guards as they are typically supposed to stay in the same place and protect.
Damn, I still remember that one old German WW1 group that ErichModel was running...I do wonder what year it really was..
It mighta been WWI, he has done a variety of eras in his day.
My friend owns a napoleonic bavaria it has fallen twice and is being revived once again being the 3rd generation i played in the first generation and the generation as of rn hasnt seen a event in around 1-2 weeks due to development and map building the bavaria is slowly dying after barely rallying any low ranks.
That's sad, do you think there's any hope for it?
@@Liodite I do think there's a chance to revive it and make it bigger but reviving a Napoleonic group is always hard
didn't France bavaria get purged
@@cowby6264 How does France have a Bavaria? Isn't Bavaria literally a German state?
@@cowby6264 its not NW its my friends bavaria
Sad to see the roblox ww2 community in such disrepair. Definitely made a lot of memories all those years ago.
I mean, I wouldn't say it's in a state of disrepair. But, it's definitely a lot different than it was 5, 10 or however many years ago. But, that's with anything; shit changes. And like, we've also gotten a bunch of new technology especially in these last 4ish years or so. That's been really good for a community that was stuck in 2012 for so long. For all the problems the community does have, there are still hundreds if not thousands of new memories to be made because it's never been about the technology, it's about the people around you that make it worthwhile.
@@Liodite i got out of it around the pandemic so I haven’t seen it recently. When I left it was a mess, most groups ended up dead after 3 months or so.
I was once a General and MPCO in JFKParts USM, and before that a MAC-V-SOG Colonel. Good times back in 2017-18
Nice, nice - how was it?
Yo finally found someone talk about a group I was in in the comments. I was CO of Navy Seals in USM for a bit.
It was fun back then. It was quite a long time ago so my memories of it arent the best.@@Liodite
Wdym everyone I never heard about this group before
I haven't been involved in Roblox military group shit since like 2017 or something, but I have to say the overlap between these "german" ww2 groups and 13 year old borderline nazis was pretty alarming. I can imagine its much worse nowadays and idk if its like that in this group you talk about but they're generally doomed to be disastrous so I'm not surprised.
I mean, I'm sure a lot of the people you're talking about have grown out of the edgy-Nazi-chud phase and realized, "oh, this shit's stupid," and moved on. But, I wouldn't doubt that a few people have failed to mature mentally and are still out here pushing that kind of thing - regardless, I try to stay away from people and groups like that.
honestly if they keep tryna relaunch with the same leadership…. maybe bavaria needs more competent people? 🤷♂️
sorry. rational ideas won't be tolerated here
ik this is very off-topic but this vid is probably one of the few videos out there with footage featuring WW2 Battlegrounds (the game seen from 11:15 onwards). I used to play it back in the day but it has since been content deleted. Good times
oh yeah, i noticed it got shutdown. do you have any idea why it got content deleted? i wouldn't be sure
@@Liodite Me neither tbh, but I checked the group and the Discord, both are gone. I suspect some sort of internal issue. Ik there were issues of exploits and stuff
the moment when you are bavarian and never heard of the Group lol
Bavarians crawling out of the mountains to come watch a video about Bavaria that has nothing to do with actual Bavaria, it's beautiful.
total larper death
Comment of the year.
You should join our Bavaria lol
(Fun fact: The model family/bloodline has a huge issue with having pedophilla and incompetency)
I know this type of Community I was in Stutgart Border and your story is great continue bud!
Haven’t heard of that one personally, I presume it’s a Soviet-esque border game?
@@Liodite It’s like the game you present but it’s Stuttgart.
@@LioditeStuttgart is a city in Germany
11:19 ahh
Battlegrounds WW2, One of my fav games, I always go for Polish and Finnish armory
Wery good game, It was broken for some time due to unknown reasons, good to see it back in action, weapons and uniforms are wonderful
Nice to see someone else enjoying it
Battlegrounds WW2 is honestly a lotta fun, doesn't feel like brainrot compared to a lot of other games
yeah, true @@Liodite
But the map to players ratio is a bit off, I remember when the weapons used to be assets and you had to manually cycle the action on a bolt gun, and the map was tiny, than it went to the 4 buildings and the point in the middle (I had my first hacker encounter there, he gave people penises lol) Then the bigger map, that was the best one honestly, the one when the river was thin, and the Turrets by base and tanks were added in the next version. Now it's more aestetically pleasing but I find it to be way to big.
Also the Armory is great though the Finnish armory is empty which is sad because the finns had the coolest armory IMO (and also the best which is a partly a fact) in the whole war. (Take "Frontline Karelia" as an example, which is a game about the continuation war, and has the 2nd best gunplay I've seen in roblox yet)
I'm haven't played in really long but I'll happily see the game grow as I've been familiar with it for all of it's life pretty much
I once tried to get in to a high rank in Britain’s royal military XD and when i did the try out i was the worst out of my group, when we got to the physical training i looked awful but the goat who was instructing us still ranked me ( every one eles was already ranked) i just wanted to say that
goat instructor fr
@@Lioditeyeah XD
Nice channel btw your underrated ❤
Bloodlines and stupid pettiness ruined any fun to be had in Roblox military groups, all the fun groups with active communities had what eventually happens to all of them, they grow up and move on from the funny Lego game. Also, not to mention how weird it is that the RWW2 community was at one point mostly ran by adult men when it's a children's website.
bloodlines are probably the silliest thing to come of roblox, they're kinda like royal families - they're nothing "royal" about them, we just act like there is
Man roblox genre groups, they are so fun but the rabbit holes which underlie are huge, I was in a star wars one and what happend in that one was crazy.
what happened?
Ah ol days of being in organized groups will always be the highlight of my sad life.
Now I play Arma and all the groups I was in are dead, even the big ones that used to be cool. =)
Pessimistic, but I do like to believe that the newer generation will sorta keep doing this stuff because there's always a certain niche of kids who will find an interest in historical-ish groups.
@@Liodite
Aye.. Hopefully.
It will hopefully live on.
But I feel I can't be apart of it, mainly because I don't feel like wasting my weekends doing grammar Jack's and faces to be apart of something. And well, just don't have the skills anymore.
@@Blank55600 Fair enough, old man.
jesus, i remember being in the original bavaria after erich decided to give up on his USM 1960s, we were all excited for launch day, only for things to get worse literally on the same day or the day after (i don't recall, it's been a while)
time flies dude
Bavaria was that group that definitely intended to be a proper WW2 German group, without the extreme lengths like the Austratt Empre went through.
I miss it.
I'm sure they had *mostly* good intentions, but they kinda have an old money mindset and that's partly what lead to it's downfall.
10:06 that was uncalled for
only slightly outta pocket
Really good video Lio.
Thank you!
JFKPart brings back bad memories lmao, the time when i got demoted frok O10 straight to E1
This comment is the epitome of all the groups under him.
bro these roblox military rp groups are so nostalgic like gah damn
Never knew there are entire Roblox crime families dedicated solely to running war groups.
I knew a Colonel in the balvaria group he actually recruited me
Ah, what was his name?
Wait ain't Kingdom of Bavaria set in the 1800s?? Why is the group based in ww1-ww2
alt hist
@@adosmon6177 Oh mb, most roblox groups that I see tend to be historical
@@traceytraced well seems you didnt get in the real larp ones lol
I was involved with the creation of a Group named United States Space Force. I was an admin (or at least a high ranking member). Not a day after its first launch everyone went inactive. I spent money on gamepasses too...
The other groups were FBI and DIA but those weren't so disastrous.
You should join Mike's Kingdom, it's very unique but they join only in weekends
Who's Mike?
No the group is called Mike's Kingdom
i’ve never been involved in the roblox military community but i was involved in the gta 5 online milsim community tho and honestly that was also a mess i was part of a group called black watch and it had 3 versions the og,the one i led,and the last revive where the owner basically said f you to us all and merged into another group where almost everyone was demoted to private on join
Ah, yes. The Model family. I quite miss them. Sad times. I'm not sure if you know them, but I was a part of the Ziereis family and left for another as that also crumbled.
unfortunately, I have not heard of the ziereises
I heard about this group, just thought "uh, another stupid rank group"
Sometimes, they're definitely like that. The thing I liked about this group is that it felt a lot more like a community than a typical group, though.
That ACS footage gave me pain....
Clearly can't appreciate my spectacular aim.
Oh gosh I remember the ROBLOX WW2 groups community. Big names back then Allemand, Allied Airborne, 101st Airborne, US 29th infantry, UDIS, Das Liechtenstein, etc. Then this Model guy came in with the “1940s” groups and came and take over I always assumed cause of good/decent maps and basic group names easy for kids to fine
UDIS looks are certainly my favorite
You need to check out this game called "Navy Simulator" One of the bigist miliary games out there that goes for there Roblox groups too.
What on earth have I stumbled on to?
As some have liked to call it, "total larper death," lol.
Innovate or die, and I would particularly stress innovation in the raider side of these games since that’s how they generate revenue and give the group player base things to do.
that's true. i wish there was more of a happy medium with these kinda things but it really seems it's constant raider shooting or nothing
you know, im sure ALOT of people can tell you about their times in 1 military group or another hell i remember what the Panzer Lahar was around although that group was disbanded and idk why as i was a kid back then but another group i was a part of was the Imperial Eldeltian Military or the IEM for short, i remember i was in the ESS group which was fun and a good way to get rid of the annoying recruits who broke rules
Yeah, it's kinda weird. Back when I originally joined military groups (2016ish), people would get dismissed constantly from tryouts. Nowadays, it's like anyone with four limbs and 20 digits gets in - I'm not sure if it's a shift in culture or just a rise of quotas.
@@Liodite Did you hear about Imperial Prussian Confederacy??
never thought I'd see Sully again or even Asagis, those two were madlads in Garde Waterloo
Those madlads need to retire, 25 pushing 60.
I MUST inform oretary or which it’s called now “The Town” is alive and I would love to see you interact in the game again!
I'll definitely consider it again. I do tend to focus on military content, but I always had a ton of fun with the Oretary videos, too.
@@Liodite thanks man
This is my first time hearing of the group. I might've saw an ad or two but i never really pay attention to them. I also haven't played roblox for a year and a half, i no longer have a PC that's able to handle games.
rip
"bavaria is a roblox group" that statement hurt so much to hear since bavaria was a country
it's also a state!
@@Liodite you are right on that too
Great video, do you think it would be possible to make a video about very old school roblox war groups like FEAR, RAT, TRA, John Cobras, Vaktovian Empire, etc… since they were pretty massive back in the day and probably have pretty interesting lores
Are they still around at all?
@@LioditeI'm not a Roblox OG or a member of any of those groups, but I'm pretty sure the Vaktovian Empire is somewhat active
Yo so I was a modeller for this group I made all the helmets, hats and gears. And even did some tanks that never got put into the game. So basically ajaxmodel just kind of dipped with all the fundamentals and I never got paid. He just was ghosting me for weeks before he did what he did. Was excited for the group they had the funds to make it awesome.
that's a shame, man, sorry to hear that you never got paid for your work - that sucks
Damn, Arma 4 be looking crisp.
This is the brand new update, it sure looks good.
bidet
What is the music playing at 17:13 And 19:49 ?
I think in order, it'd be "Bihler - Night Walk," and "DOS-88 - Race To Mars." Hope this helps!
the bavarian guards are basically just LSS statue divison
LSS? What's that?
@@Liodite The 1st SS Panzer Division Leibstandarte SS "Adolf Hitler", was a unit made in 1933. They were essentially Hitler's personal bodyguard unit. In the Garry's Mod nazi rp community, we call them the statue faction, because they just stand next to doors all day, sometimes escorting VIPs, similar to what you did in the video.
Lio video idea: theres an napoleonic group called men of war, this game has countless groups countless regiments and divisions, the most focused ones are BA and GA aka grandee armee and british army, if you can bring influence to ga's regiment called 57e ill be so glad cause we are struggling and could use your help on staff,ranker,recruitment, problems just ask for "Skeleton and ill answer eventually if im not dying, thanks.
Im still in ErichModel's new and also slowly dying group Model Studios. I absolutely love the community of people their, and theyve launched 2 new games. I joined back in late 2020 to early 2021 and hung around a bit. I'd learned quite a bit about Erich, who now goes by tubby or "tubaye", and I have to honestly say I'm impressed whith what he's done, but he tends to start development on projects, release them, and then say he will further update but leave to die out. There was a point where he left MS for a while to set up a new group by the name of Vanguard Studios with FPS games rather than RP games, but gave up shortly after.
In my own opinion, I would say maybe check out MS and the games, and if you really enjoy them, stay along. But just beware of tubby's tendency to hopp off of his projects.
(Sorry for the tangent by the way, just wanted to give addition to something I've been part of as I never see stuff close to this)
Yeah, I've heard of both MS and VS, I don't really have the knowledge or experience to speak on Erich, but I can understand the frustration of a game you like dying down due to lack of updates, for sure.
@@Liodite Yeah, it's annoying frankly but I think some other MS higher ups and community members are taking it into their own hands to revive the group and make these games. It's good to see it growing back.
Bruh I remember how roblox group went and go back in fucking 2015, now its the new meta now? God I miss them days
what
Meant to say @@Liodite, this popped in my recons and I legit got surprised these kind of group still exists today, not for ToS bs but by how old they are at this point. Ya remember BRIANO10 USSF? Stuff like that.
Yo what's up? I love the video. Keep it up!
The sky, and thank you!
wish i knew about this group before so i could troll in the games
would be funny
11:20
That's Battlegrounds WW2.
That's Battlegrounds WW2.
Damn I miss that game man.
A VIDEO AFTER 1 MONTH, FINALLY.
FINALLY!
@@LioditeOh sorry for the mistake😂😂😂
dang I used to be VERY active in USM 1960's and I got really pissed off and betrayed when Erich switched groups with that guy to the 1940s, I feel your pain
Yeah, that does suck. What happened afterwards to the 60s group?
Quit the Roblox community years ago but I see so many names I can remember. I used to go under the names PeterEngels and SirAugustSmith
ah, very cool! when did you start playing?
The Kraut larp rabbit hole
Kraut larping is insane.
I remember playing this and being a border guard i left because it was boring standing around mostly until something happened for such a difficult tryout the duty’s were very boring
Why don’t people just start a real life history group
wouldn't have the same feel as shitty roblox larp
since you are a youtuber, could you try to re-start TGWA? I was able to reach senior corporal before it sadly shut down.
That's a big ask, I think it's more Nerfer's thing. I will admit that I definitely liked it from the original, TWA, and the newer version, TGWA, but it's not really my territory.
@@Liodite it'd be nice if you could make a series playing dead games that players recommend. you are in quite the influential position
i remember being a BG and then the shutdown happened, we were in the same tryout in your second attempt and i just remember how bavaria was just failing lmao and then advertised a different group
sounds about right
You'd just get bullied for being in Bavaria at all.
Who- who are you talking to?
Good video but Idk why you say that everybody knows what bavaria is. It is a pretty small group, only 2k members.
Eh, a good portion of the WWII community does actually know what it is, since it's been around so long and has gotten quite the rep.
@@Liodite agreed
best video ever 😭makes me wanna burst into tear but i dont care if bavaria falls or not...PRAISE TO THE BAVARIA EMPIRE!
im too late am i, lol.
we love Bavaria
These type of WW2 themed German army groups are bound to be a disaster lol, just like how they were bound to be a disaster in GMOD.
I had the misfortune of joining a nazi gmod server once, never again
Take a shot every time, Liodite says Bavaria
bartender!
I was in USM 1940s a while ago and Erich Model was constantly seen in discord “playing rape simulator”
ew wtf
1:08 whats the name of that song in the background
I believe that's called Sacrifice by Karl Casey.
thanks big guy@@Liodite
You should cover the history of the Duchy of Vienna, I’d be happy to help provide some sources
Sure, just shoot me a message through my Discord - it should be linked around somewhere.
I even invested i think 30k robux into this. I was really excited for this and it seemed like a robux laundering operation at the end of the day
Jesus, sorry about that.
Calling someone sir on a video game is and always will be the most cringe behaviour
fact!
Same thing happened to the Anzac group in 2018
I've been friends with WernerModel the guy he interviewed at the end for a few years now and I just found this video, had no idea he was 38 he sounded so young bruh
there's no way brother is actually 38, maybe like 30 max.
i can relate to trying out for the officer "guard" (on a different game) as a lil kid. i remember getting super frustrated after failing every tryout lol
roblox marine lore:
12 year old wannabe Roblox Nazis on copium
Pure facts.
Every big group has endings
"Something something... must come to an end."
For a military group, 2.7k is low, like GAR has over a million and British army I think is near 2 million
Fair enough. In my personal experience, groups with under 10k usually are more fun because it's a lot more of a community aspect and a lot less of, "what's the most efficient way to make money?" But, to each their own.
approved by kings guard
glad!
Yo what's that meme song called that plays from 4:06 to 4:11 :o ?
I think it's called "disappearing man sound effect."
@@Liodite Thanks bud! was a fun vid to watch ^^