I find myself watching your Les Paul restorations, at 3am! Great job. Where do you get all these things? I think you are creating, and restoring history! As a historian, I think that any of these guitars should be saved. Thanks for being my method of relaxing, playing silently, while watching your work. Thanks
I've had the same issue with to tight of of neck joint. But I didn't crack any wood I was able to pull the neck back out and make adjustments. Now, like you, I use a "loose" fit. I also like hot hide glue for neck joints but a little squeeze out makes me feel like I got good coverage. And as it dries a little it can be peeled off without a mess. Thanks for the vid bro looking forward to seeing this one with some finish on it. I've got a video coming out where I mention your name as a source for staining info as I test colors on a maple burl. Probably be my next video.
Also having a neck so tight, will break the body when there is some moisture change.....specially with a top glued on it, it can also split a bit the top.
Does the pocket need a shim of some sort if the body and neck aren't tight enough to stay joined when holding the guitar up by the neck? I guess my question is, what is the ideal amount of tightness pre-glue?
How did you determine the neck angle or make sure that it is at the correct angle? I want to build a StewMac kit, just want to know if I'll need to put any shims in there.
You're not concerned about damaging the frets or the body of the guitar with the clamps? I've seen people use planks of wood between the body and the clamp and rags between the frets and the clamp. Is that not the recommended method?
Ideally the fretboard binding should be flush with the body near the tenon, correct? I'm currently fighting a kit build on getting both sides flush and don't want to eat too much material away.
I was gonna comment but I noticed that most of the comments were 4 years old 😅Then I saw that yours was "only" a year old & thought it might still be worth addressing it since putting together a set neck kit was something I had been thinking about for years and am just getting around to. Anyway, here's the thing. I bought a PRS style kit from a prominent Chinese factory on eBay. Everything looked great until I got the Tremolo bridge and dry fit everything. The neck fit nicely into the pocket. It wasn't sloppy,but it slipped right in. That's when I realized that the bridge saddles are an inch too close to the neck. The way this particular kit is made, the neck looks like it can be glued in without the tenon being pushed all the way into the mortise, but I will have to sand the sides of the pocket to accommodate the taper of the neck. Looks like I'll have to cut a piece of maple to fill the gap between the neck heel and the pickup route & I guess I'll also fill the gap where the tenon is pulled out of the mortise. I also had to ream the holes for the pots and wires from the pickups, and gonna have to remove some wood from under the pots and switch so they come out though the top far enough. I haven't even gotten to checking the neck pitch yet. It seemed simple and straightforward going in, but it's a good thing I checked the nut to bridge measurements before I put everything together. I actually have a hollow body LP kit being delivered tomorrow morning. I'm hoping that goes together a little easier.
Great tips - I'll be building an LP set-neck kit soonish - I know hide glue is recommended but what is a good alternative? I have a heater pot but use it for potting pickups.
You don't have to worry about that with kits. But you can just place the neck in the body and look if the neck tilts back a bit. If it does, it most likely already has the right angle.
Yeah, I was sitting on the edge of my seat while you were putting glue on the neck directly over the body, after taping a tiny bit of space around the neck to avoid getting any glue on the body! Since I can be kind of messy and make sure there’s nothing underneath it can get glue dripped on it. 🤭
Heating the wood up slightly with a heat gun can give you a little extra time with the hide glue - but not much. A good general rule to know with hide glue is that if you see it "gel" on the surface it's already too late - you're past the point of a good bond. If you're new to hide glue and practice this a bit you'll see it easily.
0:20 , nope, that’s not true at all, you SHOULD force your neck in, because just because the neck isn’t moving in the pocket, doesn’t mean it’s not moving in the in the pocket. I cringed like a lot when I heard this because it’s 100% false
I don't know what I would be doing if it wasn't for you, Derek. Thank you so much.
I find myself watching your Les Paul restorations, at 3am! Great job. Where do you get all these things? I think you are creating, and restoring history! As a historian, I think that any of these guitars should be saved. Thanks for being my method of relaxing, playing silently, while watching your work. Thanks
Great advice and tips, thanks a lot!!
Running glue from the pot to the neck over the body made me nervous
First thing I was thinking!
Whoah, BigD from the past solves my future problems
Thanks in advance
Thank you! Real eye opener!
Thank you much for sharing this.
Thank you! Excellent.
Luv The Channel D!!!! You Make Even Something as Boring As Gluing A Neck Look Fun And Interesting.... Keep The Momentum Rollin Rollin Rollin. 🤘🎸
hahah. I have had a few bad experiences I wanted to share!
@@bigdguitars Epic D Fails Is A Great Idea... Piece That Vid Together, I Bet That Would Get Some Serious Views... 🎥🎸
I have some guitars I could show. Maybe that will be the sunday conversation.
I've had the same issue with to tight of of neck joint. But I didn't crack any wood I was able to pull the neck back out and make adjustments. Now, like you, I use a "loose" fit. I also like hot hide glue for neck joints but a little squeeze out makes me feel like I got good coverage. And as it dries a little it can be peeled off without a mess. Thanks for the vid bro looking forward to seeing this one with some finish on it. I've got a video coming out where I mention your name as a source for staining info as I test colors on a maple burl. Probably be my next video.
cool dude I will watch it.
Nice thanks for the knowledge
I like this tips
That flamed maple top is spectacular!
Awesome
Excellent info.
time to break out the kits.
I suppose it probably is haha.
This video that i was looking for.. thank you.. i want to build a les paul and wondering how to make the bolt on neck. Its really help
Glad it was helpful!
Also having a neck so tight, will break the body when there is some moisture change.....specially with a top glued on it, it can also split a bit the top.
very true. seen that happen
Thanks
Does the pocket need a shim of some sort if the body and neck aren't tight enough to stay joined when holding the guitar up by the neck? I guess my question is, what is the ideal amount of tightness pre-glue?
Awesome to see this isn’t as tough as it might seem. Does the neck angle tend to be good on the cheaper kits, or do you have to shave the neck down?
How did you determine the neck angle or make sure that it is at the correct angle? I want to build a StewMac kit, just want to know if I'll need to put any shims in there.
You're not concerned about damaging the frets or the body of the guitar with the clamps? I've seen people use planks of wood between the body and the clamp and rags between the frets and the clamp. Is that not the recommended method?
My clamps have those little feet. I have to final sand and do the fretwork
Ideally the fretboard binding should be flush with the body near the tenon, correct? I'm currently fighting a kit build on getting both sides flush and don't want to eat too much material away.
yes.
I was curious about making sure the scale length and angle were correct
I was gonna comment but I noticed that most of the comments were 4 years old 😅Then I saw that yours was "only" a year old & thought it might still be worth addressing it since putting together a set neck kit was something I had been thinking about for years and am just getting around to.
Anyway, here's the thing.
I bought a PRS style kit from a prominent Chinese factory on eBay.
Everything looked great until I got the Tremolo bridge and dry fit everything.
The neck fit nicely into the pocket. It wasn't sloppy,but it slipped right in.
That's when I realized that the bridge saddles are an inch too close to the neck.
The way this particular kit is made, the neck looks like it can be glued in without the tenon being pushed all the way into the mortise, but I will have to sand the sides of the pocket to accommodate the taper of the neck.
Looks like I'll have to cut a piece of maple to fill the gap between the neck heel and the pickup route & I guess I'll also fill the gap where the tenon is pulled out of the mortise.
I also had to ream the holes for the pots and wires from the pickups, and gonna have to remove some wood from under the pots and switch so they come out though the top far enough.
I haven't even gotten to checking the neck pitch yet.
It seemed simple and straightforward going in, but it's a good thing I checked the nut to bridge measurements before I put everything together.
I actually have a hollow body LP kit being delivered tomorrow morning.
I'm hoping that goes together a little easier.
Are you using any kind of caul or protective block between the clamp and the fret board?
Can you use regular wood glue? Our would your recommend the Hyde glue
Regular. Owner wanted hide glue for whole guiyar.
How far into the finishing process should you go before gluing in the neck?
Have you ever done a bolt on neck to set neck conversion?
no I have not done that
Hey Derek, do you use hide glue just because it's traditional, or because it's better than modern wood glues in some way? Cheers! Chris.
I will do a vid on glues. Owner requested.
Great tips - I'll be building an LP set-neck kit soonish - I know hide glue is recommended but what is a good alternative? I have a heater pot but use it for potting pickups.
Brian Ullmark You can use original Tite Bond Wood glue. That’s what I use and never have any issues...
wood glue is fine too. the player wanted hide glue. hey check your comments from me =)
BigDGuitars - Check your comments from me? Is that geared to me? I’m not sure what that means... 😂
to be honest - I'm not sure either? Anyway - thanks for the info.
+brian email me. derek@bigdguitars.com
Hide glue is so old school. Oatmeal glue is the new best glue.
oatmeal? does it crystalize?
BigDGuitars - Oh, I was kidding. But now I wanna do a break test 😂😂
hahahha
no protection for the frets from the clamps..?
How do you figure out your neck angle? I’ve got an SG kit from eBay but I’m scared I’m going to set the neck and have some crazy string height issues.
gotta mock it up and play around.
Get a digital angle finder on Amazon . Digital Protractor Inclinometer Level Meter
@@bigdguitars Im a Big D from England, my nickname named after a bag of peanuts!
You don't have to worry about that with kits.
But you can just place the neck in the body and look if the neck tilts back a bit. If it does, it most likely already has the right angle.
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what sort of glue would you use for this?
Great fit. Is that glue spillage on the side at 5:15? Will it penetrate deep?
no scrapped it off and wiped some warm water on it. No issues.
Yeah, I was sitting on the edge of my seat while you were putting glue on the neck directly over the body, after taping a tiny bit of space around the neck to avoid getting any glue on the body! Since I can be kind of messy and make sure there’s nothing underneath it can get glue dripped on it. 🤭
what kind of glue?
is it possible to glue a bolt on neck?
Yes, I’ve done it
Why Hide Glue and not a version of Titebond?
whole guitar is built out of hide glue. Player requested.
Heating the wood up slightly with a heat gun can give you a little extra time with the hide glue - but not much.
A good general rule to know with hide glue is that if you see it "gel" on the surface it's already too late - you're past the point of a good bond. If you're new to hide glue and practice this a bit you'll see it easily.
What about your angle
Are you from Oshkosh?
Oshkosh? Why you say that?
@@bigdguitars You look familiar. I think you are.
0:20 , nope, that’s not true at all, you SHOULD force your neck in, because just because the neck isn’t moving in the pocket, doesn’t mean it’s not moving in the in the pocket. I cringed like a lot when I heard this because it’s 100% false
to tight and wood swells with glue have fun getting it in there.