I never hate watch these bad shows. I’ve never seen Velma. I’ve never seen rings of power. I’ve never seen madame web. I didn’t watch the all female ghostbusters movie or the boba fett miniseries. But I’ve watched maybe a hundred + hours of RUclips creators complaining about them. Much more entertaining. Nice video and a like from me.
Rings of power isn't as bad as its reputation. The visuals are gorgeous and there are actual character arcs in it but you need to disassociate from the original lotr movies to enjoy it.
@@tamarleahh.2150I made it to the penultimate episode and the storytelling is garbage, the visuals don't save it because lotr is about the characters not the settings. And Galadriel wasn't true to her character. Plot lines didn't make sense and omg was it boring. I gave up after the volcano. HotD had representation and more cohesive storytelling, and while I haven't forgiven George for not finishing the books or D&D for seasons 7 and 8, I can recommend HotD. I recommend RoP to only my worst enemies, sadly those are the ones pushing this ideology.
@@jenn9027 you say Galadriel wasn't true to her character but my point is exactly to disregard what you are supposed to know about her. The Galadriel of the show is a different Galadriel. The character itself does have an arc: Starting out on a quest to avenge her brother's murder, earning glory but being so obsessed and insecure about her mission that she won't give up and find peace, making tons of mistakes and alienating everyone around her with her selfish obsession and then ultimately paying with the consequence of her rearming the one she swore to destroy. If it weren't for her arrogance and selfishness she would have been able to focus on the real enemy instead of essentially becoming a villain herself. She's asked why she doesn't stop and admits that she doesn't know how. What lies beneath this is her unwillingness to accept the death of her brother and move on with life. It's not the Galadriel of lotr but it is an interesting exploration into character.
@@tamarleahh.2150 lol you want everyone to drop existing lore to accept their shitty telling of a great character. Instead, why not make something original.......oh yeah.
The thing I hate the most is the gaslighting regarding this so-called toxic fanbase. This is a thing KK and others made up. The whole toxic fanbase thing is just a victim ideology invention to keep her (A wealthy millionaire) looking good among her own crowd. No woman was ever unwelcome in star wars until KK declared it and kept using that line (talk about repeating the lie until everyone believes it). The female audience of geek stuff was always small, but they have now all walked away with the men. Hollywood doesn't want to tell stories, they want to tell identity and victimhood, and sadly, I don't see it stopping anytime soon. As a woman, I'm not into it, and I refuse to watch it.
the fact that you waited until the end of your comment to tell us you were a women just makes this mini review so much better it just makes everything you said completely valid and every other non paid actor/reviewer out there was watching this genuinely wanting a good story valid as well but i honesty fear that woke western media will only get worse the days of authentic and genuine passion seen through your art is slowly coming to a close for the west and i want to emphasise on "the WEST" as for me i will not being continuing acolyte i only watched 1 episode to understand it will be a waste of my time but i will be coming to see reviews of this Highly anticipated episode 3 everyone is talking about 😂
Disney spent a ludicrous amount of money to buy multiple franchises so they could capitalize on their massive existing fanbase, then spent a decade intentionally, actively, and OPENLY chasing that existing fanbase away, while barely trying to grow a new one. A confusing business strategy but I'm sure it'll pay off any day now.
Disney thought brand recognition alone was enough and people would blindly clap for whatever discharge they eked out. The thing is, to have an established entertainment brand, HARD WORK was required to ENTERTAIN audiences... thus solidifying it as an entertainment brand. You can't buy a brand and then dismantle everything of substance about it that helped establish it as a popular brand in the first place. The era of deconstructionism and woke needs to be slammed into the rubbish bin of history.
Ah yes. The "I don't feel safe" argument. Me as a short, finnish female with neurological illnesses just feel so unsafe when thease ment for entertainment movies and shows don't have character thats JUST LIKE ME. How am I suppose to feel safe watching them.
Ethän sä voi mitenkään tuntea itsesi turvassa, kun kaikki me miehet sanotaan sulle jatkuvasti että sinä naisena et kuulu star warsiin. Eiks me olla aina tehty niin?
I think some of the actresses are more so worried that they may end up being the target of massive online bullying and death threats like what happened with Kelly Marie Tran and with more minority women in the cast it's harder to single out any one individual for people to direct their intolerance towards. I'm glad you feel safe though, it would be pretty weird if just watching anything made you, or anyone, feel unsafe.
@kxbewsky Kellie Marie Tran received ZERO threats or violence. Not once did she say she did, and she literally only said ONE thingrrelated to Star Wars in her "goodbye" tweet. There is ZERO evidence that ANY of these people, like Kellie, Jake (kid Ani), or Ahmed (Jar Jar) received any real backlash from the fans, and a whole MESS of evidence that the backlash they received was exclusively from the main stream media. We're there some fans that did? I'd bet there were a few. But only a tiny, insignificant fraction of the fanbase.
@@dragonmaster1360 people act like we all dont receive hate online. What do you do if some rando sends you a dm? You literally ignore it and move on lmfao these people cry "cyber bully" but literally, how? turn off the fucking screen
It couldn't be simpler for me. I'm tired of performative diversity. I'm tired of being told all the details of these peoples' boring, lifeless lives. And for god sake am I tired of this fake "moral ambiguity" being inserted into every single story. I already knew the show wasn't for me, but even if it was, it just sounds like a waste of time, and judging by what they discussed about the upcoming episode on Open Bar last night, it's only getting worse from here. Great video as always, Greg.
Especially tired of "haha the white man is clueless, evil or a passionless jerk" You know that group that creates a ton of great stuff and these days just wants to live their lives without current day ridicule? These online freaks need a therapist
"Just remember guys...there was a food court on the Death Star. So before you celebrate it's destruction by way of Anakin...yes Anakin Skywalker...just know there was a kid working a summer job at the Mrs. Fields cookie shop that didn't always approve of what the Empire was up to that also died." - Charlie Barnett
Sbarro employees: Hey Bob, why do all the lights dim and the station shakes occasionally? And then I hear that the planet that we were just orbiting mysteriously exploded. I don't know, but I was trying to get with that scary goth, death chick who wears the really odd helmet, and she said that she couldn't tell me what she did for the Empire, because they'd kill me.
The fact that they haven't even considered a Revan movie, shows they have no knowledge of what the fandom wants. Although, as they keep murdering characters, I'm kinda glad they leave him alone
I love the old Republic era, my favorite being KOTOR 2, I would love to see Darth Kreia on screen. However, if Disney was in charge of it, Bastilla (who would be a lesbian) would be the true hero and it would end with Palpatine somehow going back in time to be the big bad.
I honestly don't think revan should be made into a movie, because his story is best suited for the video games. A better choice would be darth bane. His story as told through the bane trilogy is very solid for a 3 part film trilogy, and would easily satisfy all fans, even Disney progressives since banes apprentice is a woman named zannah, and she kills him in the 3rd book to continue the rule of 2. It's an easy win.
Oh my God....that is what I've been asking for. And frankly, they don't even have to write a script, KOTOR did it for them....however, Disney would STILL mess it up 10 ways to Sunday
Holy shit, we've finally got there. We're finally at the point where blowing up the Death Star has become "morally grey". We are now full post-modernism.
It's incredible that someone can even inhabit that head space unironically. It makes me worry that Charlie is a bad person if he is unable to make very clear moral distinctions
@@gregowen2022 You act like you think that empire had good hiring practices and everyone got to choose where they were stationed. What about the fact that a lot of soldiers in the empire were conscripted as children from conquered worlds and brainwashed and indoctrinated into the military with the penalty for disobedience being death. Isn't it at least a little grey to have to kill hundreds of thousands of slave soldiers who literally never had a choice. And before the Death Star actually fired, it is unclear as to how many people on it actually knew it was a planet killer and not just a mobile base. It was definitely right to destroy it when he did, the Death Star needed to be stopped, but I have to imagine Luke spared at least some thought and mourning after the war for the fact that he had to indiscriminately kill so many people instead of getting the chance to save those who were pressed into service, after all he is the same kid who tried to save Vader. I mean, you might only see it as black and white, but I don't think Luke did.
To be fair, the discussion of how Death Star also had people who were just doing their jobs like mechanics, isnt really new. Kevin Smith asked that 20+ years ago while he still was fat and didnt lost weight and with that all of his creativity. But nobody should wonder whether its a good act to destroy Death Star when The Empire already killed millions of people in Alderan with it and plans to kill many more who just dare to oppose them.
@@yeetthegargantuanleviathan6216 I'll have you know, I had already grown tired of this and finished by the time you wrote this, and I have stopped of my own accord, not because you said so. People are only arguing points I've already covered now anyway. Good day to you, sir.
The fanbase like characters like OG Shaak Ti and Ahsoka so a female focussed show wouldn't have been an issue. It's the male-hating dialogue that alienates fans. I never felt "left out" as a female fan of OG Star Wars. I even really dislike the Jedi because of how emotionally repressive they are which has consistently led to minds weak to Sith corruption. I'd be as equally down for a male led show as much as a female one but I don't need to hear from either how great they are just because of what's between their legs. Tbf The Acolyte makes me want to exclude myself because I don't think any sex is morally superior so their dialogue is ridiculously off-putting.
It's kind of wild that the Scene has gone from "The Empire is obviously nazis and always evil" to "blowing up the Death Star was a morally gray act actually" in just a year's time.
Actually Lucas said he was thinking about the Viet Cong for the rebels so I think you mean to say "The Empire is obviously America and always evil." But also the morally gray thing has been a funny debate ever since Clerks; It didn't just spring up in the past year.
@@kxbrewskythe Clerks conversation was about the second Death Star, which was still under construction; IIRC Randall grants that the first Death Star (the one destroyed by Anak--Luke) was destroyed in an act of was and manned by enemy combatants. Saying that the destruction of the first Death Star, a superweapon used to kill billions of people in a single strike, is "morally gray" is either evidence that this person is an idiot, or that he/she watched Clerks a few years ago, doesn't totally remember the conversation but is trying to sound smart.
@@wyssmaster That's fair, it has been a while since I've seen it, and I will admit to being at least partially an idiot, but I more so mean that Randal helped to open up conversations about the morality of some things in Star Wars that had previously been taken for granted. I didn't mean that we've all been repeating that exact same conversation for 30 years. Randal does grant the first Death Star, but I'd say he may have been quick to do so. He is essentially saying that since everyone on DS1 was an Imperial that means they are all evil, which is an easy assumption to make, but probably not actually the case. We do know of at least one cantina from the Death Star novel, the Hard Heart, which was run by a Twi'lek after her bar on Coruscant suspiciously burned down, and while she and her people did escape after learning the DS was in fact a planet killer, not just a mobile base, we don't know how many other services were strong armed into taking positions on the ship and didn't have a chance to escape. Ignoring them, we can't even say that all the imps were completely evil. We know for a fact that the Empire conscripted a lot children from conquered planets into the military then indoctrinated and straight up brainwashed them to be good little soldiers and killed anyone they deemed untrainable. I'm not saying that Luke shouldn't have taken the shot, and I don't think anyone is saying that. The Death Star needed to be destroyed, but I do think it's at least a little gray to kill, potentially, hundreds of thousands of slave soldiers who literally never had another choice except for death. I imagine, since he was a good person, after the war Luke probably felt some regret or mourning or some kinda way for having to indiscriminately end so many lives instead being able to save those who were pressed into service. He even tried to save Vader in the end, so I always assumed he didn't think in simple black and white. Also, you don't need to be rude when replying to people, you can just argue the points instead of resorting to name calling. Regardless, I will say I checked out your channel, and I really enjoy your music. Wellspring is beautiful. I hope that the lack of views didn't get you down and that you are still composing.
Disney is acting like a Server at a restaurant who spits in the food of customers....in front of said customers and then acts shocked when they get no tips, only complaints.
Disney is acting like a server at a restaurant who wants spitting in customers' food to become a perfectly normal and regular thing. So he keeps doing it and hopes that shaming his customers for having problems with it will eventually get them to shut up and accept it.
Endured the first two eps. The biggest sin any kind of sci-fi can commit is that it's boring. The only reason we're discussing it (like you said) is because its Star Wars. Star Wars is officially dead. Just waiting for the funeral to take place so I can pay my respects.
Even if that did happen, how much would you bet that she would take the losses like a champ because she's rich, and she'd believe that she's making progress and that the loss of money is just because bad people won't watch it
A Dyson Sphere, maybe? Wasn't everyone going on about how Orange Man Bad was going to start World War 3 by then? Maybe they thought that was a clear enough reference.
It would probably be the Republic building that since they're apparently saying the space nazi's aren't THAT evil. Like destroying a planet full of innocent people on a whim wasn't evil.
That's like having a bunch of civilians working on an aircraft carrier for some reason. In port sure, but when the ship is at sea everyone on board is a member of the military.
Seriously. When I was a kid, the only tiny bit of a regret I had was the likelihood that there were some other prisoners in the cell blocks after they rescued Leia. But now that I’m no longer a five-year-old I realize pretty much any of those prisoners would’ve been willing to die so that the death star wouldn’t be able to kill more planets.
I'm not gonna say that Luke shouldn't have taken the shot, it was probably for the best for it to be done at that moment. I do feel like everyone here is forgetting the fact that a shit ton of empire soldiers were forcefully conscripted as children, brainwashed and indoctrinated into the imperial military, with often the only alternative being death, for the purpose of being front line fodder. I know Luke is a good person too, so I imagine he would have taken some time, after the war, to mourn the fact that he had to kill hundreds of thousands of slave soldiers who had no choice their whole lives ever since the empire conquered their planets. And I mean he did try to save Vader later right? That's kinda grey too right, turning the bad guy back to good? I just don't think Luke sees everything so black and white; he probably did think about the cantina workers. Also it's unclear as to how many people on the Death Star knew of its full capabilities before it was actually fired, and once it was used on Alderaan it was destroyed within 24 hours, before it could recharge and be used again. So anyone who abruptly learned that they were on a planet killer and suddenly didn't want to be their anymore probably didn't have time to escape. And before you say "but it was called the Death Star, how could they not know", it really does fit with a naming scheme along side the Star Destroyer, which, we all know, could not, in fact, destroy stars.
@@kxbrewsky Fair and well reasoned points. Most soldiers regret the lives they took. Jedi certainly do as well. The problem is when people try to act like there is somehow equivalency in Luke’s case. Even if there were some people on the death star that arguably didn’t deserve to die, there is simply no way to justify leaving the death star intact. What triggers so many people is when the creators of Star Wars content are so out of touch and so full of themselves that they insist on things that just don’t work. Their morality and view of the world is so twisted, allowing them to justify search rotten things as insulting their own fans or dismissing the value of George Lucas, that we are sick and tired of nearly everything they say. So even if there are tiny kernels of truth, we absolutely don’t want to hear it from these particular people. We need them to shut up and go away.
The thing that all these people seem to miss with the Death Star is that LUKE killed about a million COMBATANTS. By blowing up Alderaan, the empire killed 2 billion civilians. Those two things aren’t even close to comparable
Even in the case of the DS2, its a WMD and the contractors have to know that. Even if they don't, you knew you would be working on a military project. There are risks inherent in that even without an active insurgency/rebellion going on.
The same pathetic kind seems to miss why IDF had to go to Gaza. They are crazy in a very aggressive and dangerous way. It is even more dangerous since a large percentage of our country do not identify them as mentally ill. They have a huge problem identifying evil from good
I wouldn’t be surprised if one of the characters, about to be killed by a Jedi, says something like, “I can’t breathe,” or, “don’t shoot,” as some sort of Easter egg to real world events.
Hahahaha, oh that’s so absurd and insanely on the nose that now I think it’s probably going to happen. They can’t help themselves from doing stuff like that
Now that you've mentioned it, I will be surprised if we don't see a Jedi force-choking someone with dark skin. The acting direction in the script will, undoubtedly, call for them to "Sneer racistly" as they do. Not sure how they'll convey that, but it'll be great TV I'm sure, they're saving Star Wars here guys.
I don't think the original trilogy really did a good job of showing how bad life under the stormtroopers was, aside from blowing up a planet which is more of a vader and palps thing. Not saying that such a direct reference to modern real world events and problems is such a good idea though. Many stories usually feature an oppressed or persecuted species or group so it can't be that hard to deliver a message about oppression in a satisfactory way. 🤔
@@paulmurgatroyd6372 the LGBTQ+ community is a thing, though from what I'm aware, even they are sick and tired of the forced diversity and agenda in a lot of media. personally, i just want a well-written character in a well-written story. if a character happens to be gay, that's cool, but that one aspect of their character shouldn't define their entire personality, and ESPECIALLY not the entire story.
It's not just a mistake. He twice said Anakin blew up the Death Star. He has zero knowledge of star wars, thus shouldn't be anywhere near a star wars production.
I just want to throw out that the scene of the Jedi guy unrobed was more hypocritical than disturbing. As a woman, I don't want to see unnecessary nudes of women, but I don't want to see it of men either - ESPECIALLY since it's somehow not considered wrong when it's a naked guy. Can you imagine nowadays if it was a topless woman on that scene, and men became excited? Male gaze! Oh no! It's misogyny some how. So hypocritical.
There’s so much “two opposite wrongs, make a right” type thinking, instead of moving beyond historical “bad” gender tropes. I noticed a lot of that in Barbie too.
I’m afraid their target demographic is actually children. They really don’t care about fans getting upset or low ratings, as kids don’t care about movie ratings or what adults say on the internet. And money is obviously not an issue or the goal for Disney because this has been happening for many years now. So what is the goal, then? Maybe it is to influence young generations with a particular worldview.
that's probably very true however how will those kids ever watch something their parents won't take them to see right? that's the problem Disney is going to have in today's culturally divided world. sure they may catch it on tv once it comes out but that just mean they are losing more money to reeducate children on tv. that'll be some thing that they can afford for only so long.
At this point, the IP would have to be sold to a different company that appreciates it. It's apparent the people running the current one don't and never will. Even a turnaround wouldn't bring me back as long as Disney has it. They dislike the old fans so much, they can get bent.
I don't think it would take that long for me to come back. All it would take is maybe one or two shows and one or two good movies reviewed by people I trust to get me to come back
It would require starting from scratch, with people who have a passion for the property, and about fifteen years to forget the dreck that was 'not for us.' Do we require fifteen years of nothing? No, getting fifteen years of good content would help us to forget.
"...maybe to increase their female market share..." Which is ironic because Disney first bought Marvel and Lucasfilm because they were concerned they were too much of a "girl brand" with their focus on Disney Princesses. How times have changed.
I recall their acquisition of male IPs to be aimed at gaining a male audience, due to their other primarily princess based properties. However, they didn't have to do anything special with Star Wars, to have their cake and eat it too... They had Princess Leia and Princess Padme, and probably Princess Cara (there are hints she was related to the Organa family in some way, and she was from Alderan.) This whole concept of shunning their male dominated fan base, in favor of smaller "less represented" groups, is mind boggling from any sensible perspective that assumes they're in business, and only takes on some form of reason when you see it from the lens described in this video above.
It's definitely a misnomer. People are welcome to join any hobby if they want to partake in it. But the truth is not everyone will have an interest in, say, crocheting. Crocheting is not for me and I'm secure in that and don't want to get into it.
@@SamtheBravesFan but that's only a partial analogy. What they're really doing is actually having an interest in crocheting because it's cool, but they don't like to use crochet hooks. So they decide that the proper way to crochet is to use socket wrenches instead, and they change the way crocheting is done so that you can do it with socket wrenches, and then make everybody who already crochets switch over to using socket wrenches. Maybe it still works for some people, but it's no longer crocheting.
Im still laughing at how she hides her face, when everything about her just expose her identity, especially her hair, writers are trying to pull a Superman with/without glasses move, but its failing miserably
It'd be one thing if it was the bald green Shrek looking clueless Jedi master or the snarky female Padawan who didn't know her, but that Carrie Ann Moss Jedi would know her asap. Also this show forgot Jedi can sense other Jedi coming
@@yocappy-ve7jf "If I am in pain, I am justified" is something you'll see in psychology to separate poor actions/behaviour from blame or fault. For example, you wouldn't blame an animal for fighting back if it was cornered by something with ill intent.. it's jus that people will use that dynamic as an excuse to do whatever they want
Aside from its massive weapon, the Death Star also hosted children's daycare centers, retirement homes for elderly Sith, a garden run by lesbians that produced organic vegetables, a bunny farm, and a reasonably priced Starbucks, so yes blowing it up was pure evil! Bad Anakin is bad!
Swear Disney is like that one kid, trying to cram a square shaped block into a triangle slot.. over and over again. While wondering why it won’t work….
People just really need to stop hate watching. Regardless if it's negative, it is still views and it still encourages them to go down that route. We need to completely cut this stuff out.
I mean you have a point. But at the same time, a reviewer can sometimes show people why a bad show is bad, and maybe give some advice to those who want to avoid making mistakes for their own stories. We sometimes need to learn from mistakes to avoid them.
@@lorimartin6819 You also have a point, but with thousands of RUclips reviewers that have to watch for said review, that's the thousands of views plus any viewers from their possible millions of audience members that then want to watch it for themselves.
@@lorimartin6819 no. stop watching it. Literally, thats how you stop this shit. You talking about it, stop reviewing it. This is nothing but advertisement.
@@jimmythecrow I haven’t watched the show itself, trust me. Honestly I’m not even a fan of Star Wars, this review just popped up in my recommendations and I was curious. I’m not giving the show anymore of my attention. Also, I do agree that reviewers don’t sometimes add views to bad shows, but from what I’ve heard the show is already bombing in views anyway.
Nevermind claiming it was Anakin, he makes this equivalence between Darth Vader (and the Empire, who blew up Alderaan and oppressed a galaxy) and the destruction of a massive battlestation filled with enemy soldiers. I'd hate to hear this guy's thoughts on Hiroshima.
Not Hiroshima. Auschwitz. The crew of the Death Star directly blew up Alderaan. It was a military station, there were no civilians aboard. The people of Hiroshima didn't directly kill anyone -- it was an industrial and manufacturing town. The better comparison is Auschwitz. He is saying the Allied soldiers who liberated Auschwitz are just as bad as the -z who worked there because they killed the -z to do it.
A lot of it was obviously filmed slow and sped up, and that can’t be unseen. It looked to much like choreography, you’re not supposed to see the obvious choreography underneath, that’s what makes movie magic, but this production obviously doesn’t care
Absolutely this!! Nobody. NOBODY was a Star Wars fan because the original movies subverted their expectations. That crap is for new IP, where you subvert story archetype expectations. Not for existing properties where you subvert the existing canon.
We knew it was going to be terrible from the first announcements because they emphasized the woke attributes instead of the StarWars lore or plot or even action pieces
Yep, exactly. When the show was announced and the only article available was Leslie talking about how her queerness would get into the writing, it was obvious.
Two things with the door droid hacking scene. Why recruit an accomplice to alert the droid first, when she could have just stuck the stupid device on it at any time without even talking to it? Second, if such devices exist, then why would a Jedi Temple or a Hutt crime palace use that as their only security system? Top notch story telling.
Yep, it was all a stupid contrivance so the little girl could point at Osha and say “it was her”, but by that time, it had already been revealed that the twin exists, so….. yeah, pointless
At this point i don't want them to EVER touch Revan! They'll butcher him/her and everything pertaining to them! Good god don't ever let them touch the old republic!
As a woman i HATE that those people think that i would watch a bad written (and shot!) show that just has more female screen time. Like, who cares? Not me! Its far more disrespectful to us, thinking that we just need "representation" to enjoy something and not a good storytelling. I also hate this idea that you can only associate yourself with a character that has your gender, orientation, race etc. Like, no???? Its good having more people that are not white men in cinema, but i can perfectly associate myself and feel seen if a male character has my problems, temperament, emotions. Or just something that i can understand. At this point i don't care who the character is. It becomes just a good character. And you know, I don't even have to understand and associate myself with a character to enjoy it.
Yeah, it's always seemed like a very insulting attitude for Disney and others to assume that the female audience is so shallow that they only care about seeing reflections of themselves instead of being intellectually or emotionally stimulated by what is happening on screen. Tells you a lot about the people making this crap, they really ARE that shallow
Agreed. I didn't need to be a parent or a woman to relate to Sarah Connor. I didn't need to be a Mexican to empathize with Miguel Rivera from _Coco._ And I've always said that Connor Kenway from _Assassin's Creed III_ is literally me, despite myself not being Mohawk or Native American at all. If you need a character to look exactly like you before you could relate to their personality and struggles, guess what? That makes you a narcissist and a sociopath.
This is one reason they'll never understand fiction, fantasy, science fantasy, super hero stories, anything with non-human characters... they lack empathy, and "need" to "see themselves" in the characters...
@@gregowen2022 That's awesome (in a bizarrely sad way) that you started thinking about wheat. I actually decided to work on my taxes while watching Rebel Moon, when I looked up there was a fight scene on some tower/bridge thing and I went back to my taxes due to how bored I found a fight scene. You know you are doing something wrong when some of your audience members starts thinking "doing my taxes is more interesting than this movie". (Random note: I filed an extension as I was waiting on some documentation, hence why I didn't file my taxes by April 15 - because I know someone will call me a liar otherwise).
I truly believe not even Grace Randolph expected good things. I mean, she's still shilling for it, but I want to believe that deep in her soul she does know it's awful
It continues to feel like someone went into a busy popular toy store and bought everything so no one else can play. Then in some vengeful way, due to sibling or some real or made up male telling them "this is the way you play with these", they purposefully play with everything in the "wrong" way. All while looking around gleefully at the disgust on the rest of the people in the store that now have to go home empty handed.
I laughed out loud thinking of Greg sitting through the drudgery that is Rebel Moon, looking for something interesting to do, Googling wheat harvesting, its refining for food, how much wheat in loaf of bread, etc. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
"Wokeness really is a philosophy of envy and revenge". If that is not the absolute best description of the woke, I don't know what is. All of these "woke shows" just FEEL like an expensive "suck it!" aimed right at us each and every time they get a new show to ruin.
Can we also take a moment and realise that the guy who "betrayed her" was at the moment at state of mind no better than lobotomized ape? He was just woken up from, God knows how real time long, nightmare worst in the history of his entire bloodline. And it happened while the ship was being torn to pieces. He should get a hug, blanket and something warm to drink, instead of letting him guilt himself over something he had *no control* over.
Every time I hear an actor saying the director listened to them I know we are in trouble. Unless the actor is a someone of status with tons of experience, actors don't need to be listened to because they aren't writers.
Everyone has an example of an actor ad-libbing and improving a scene (sticking with Harrison Ford, the swordsman scene in Lost Ark), but a director shouldn't be "malleable." A director's ONLY job is to be the unmoving center point that everyone else revolves around. If they aren't that, then they aren't THE director.
"I learned so much about Star Wars from Leslye" Also Leslye: "Did you know Anakin destroyed the Death Star?" "REALLY? I'm gonna totally use that in my next interview"
The Jedi being "corrupt" in some form is an idea that I think Star Wars really needs to address, given it is embedded into the very core of the narrative, but almost no-one is willing to actually do so honestly. There is a difference between nuance and contrarianism, and most people either die on the hill that the Jedi were always the "good guys" or they'd rather die than admit they were ever good at all. The entire prequel trilogy, which itself is the foundation for the entire star wars series narratively, was trying to convey the idea of a flawed Jedi order. It was showing that the Jedi are basically Spartans from Halo; children taken from an extremely young age, psychologically conditioned to believe and think the way that they 'should', and trained as warriors. The Jedi order very explicitly was restrictive and, while noble in intention, was always supposed to be flawed and morally dubious at times. The Sith mirrored the morally dubious execution, but flipped the noble intentions on their head. The Jedi were essentially driven by stoic ideals, but faced the issue that it's hard to induce stoicism in people which lead to cases like Anakin where Palpatine, through pretending to be a supportive father-like figure, was able to coerce him. In other words they were defined by legitimately virtuous stoic ideals, but always walked the line between stoicism and repression. When you try to impose the idea of virtuous self sacrifice onto others, is it really "self" sacrifice, or is it you sacrificing on their behalf? The original trilogy was about rediscovering the Jedi order and bringing back the righteous peace keepers of ages past, and the prequel trilogy was about investigating the flaws in the allegedly flawless Jedi order which made it fall in the first place. However, the prequels also kinda sucked and the original trilogy didn't, so you got split fanbase of people who either A : forgot the prequels entirely and see the Jedi as pure-good against the pure-evil Sith, or B : leaned too far into the prequels entirely and forgot that the Jedi were still stupposed to be good overall. It would be like if a bridge collapsed due to structural failures, and then half of the population remained convinced that it was still perfectly sturdy and standing and the other half of the population remained convinced it never stood in the first place. Now those two sets of people have to work together to build a new bridge believing both that the old flawed design is perfect and still standing, *_and_* that it was so horrible it never worked in the first place. You're never going to get a good bridge from these people working together because they're *_both_* wrong and neither understand the dynamics at play. George Lucas for his, admittedly significant flaws when it came to understanding some things, was willing to approach topics with nuance. However, now that it's , "nuance" is being conflated with simple contrarianism and that false equivalency is being abused by people to tell the story they want to tell, even if it doesn't actually make any sense.
Well said. The Jedi were never corrupt. They were always "the good guys." Maybe they failed to change with the times, or simply failed to recognize that the times were changing and they were being manipulated, but that doesn't even mean that they were wrong. Just short sighted, and "flawed" does not mean "evil." If there's one thing that George got right about the prequels, it's the larger themes and subtle nuanced concepts at play. Unfortunately, the writing, dialog, character work, and storytelling were so bad that everyone assumed that there was nothing to discuss about them (maybe rightly so). A lot of those themes and nuances just fade into the background.
Yes! This subtle line is so hard to walk for many writers who want to bludgeon their audience one way or another. Another story that does this well is (shocking) Wheel of Time with its White Tower of female magic users. They divide themselves into seven colored groups, but there is an eighth group, a black group that works for The Dark One. No one in the tower will acknowledge that the black group exists and deals harshly with anyone who suggests it. Their belief that it is IMPOSSIBLE for one of them to turn to the dark is exactly what allows so many black sisters to exist. Their rigid rules are exactly what he enemy uses to turn many of them. It’s such a cool idea to explore how being too rigid makes you brittle, but being too flexible might be corrupting in its own way, like you allow too much bad to happen in the name of being flexible. Instead, Headland went with “Jedi corrupt cops”. Sigh, we’re doomed.
@@gregowen2022 OFC there's room for an "Eddard Stark"(inflexible "Lawful Good") view of the Jedi. But corruption? Corruption implies a change of state or fundamental nature, not the disadvantages of a steady state. Star Wars *needs* "Good vs Evil". Corruption of Good _must_ lead inevitably to the Dark Side. The "grey area" is occupied by the likes of Han Solo. And there's room in Star Wars for "grey area to Good/Bad" stories & "no Jedi, no Sith" stories). OFC The Acolyte can't do this. As per your explanation of its true themes, The Acolyte is not a Star Wars story. They wanted "Big" characters, but _not_ the Star Wars versions (Jedi and Sith), because they don't work in a story about moral relativism (plus some incidental repression of their modern enemies /lol). So "old-school" Star Wars fans "forced them" to corrupt Star Wars in order to "do the right thing for humanity" :) The Acolyte will certainly contribute to the good of humanity. But not in the way its creators intend.
I wouldn't go so far as to say they were corrupt. I would say that having built their temple on Coruscant atop an ancient Sith site allowed the emperor to cloud their otherwise strong connection to the force and their ability to sense its will. Since the point of the Jedi was to carry out the will of the force, maintaining balance (no, not equal dark and light... GL said the dark was always imbalance, and bringing balance to the force was destroying the sith. The light side is Always balanced on its own.). Over the years, perhaps due to prophesies and visions, they became overly strict and overly cautious in regards to their rules and regulations. They allowed fear of Jedi students turning to the dark side, to influence their decisions. They decided that they had to start training new Jedi at an age early enough that they never formed "attachments" that they would fear losing. They limited relationships that Jedi were allowed to have. There was no evil or corrupt intention here, just way too much caution and fear. In practice, the Jedi order is not evil. It's not great, but it's not evil. By the time of the movies, they had become respected as peace keepers, but not cops. They were held in so high regard and were so skilled, that they were asked to do things by the Republic's leadership. This inherently lead to involvement in politics... and since they couldn't really see or feel clearly what the will of the force was, they defaulted to keeping peace, assuming maintaining peace in the republic is what the force would want them to do. They allowed themselves to become tools of the political entities... and the emperor had been weaseling his way into control of the political powers, and by proxy, the Jedi themselves. The final manipulation of creating the war with the separatists, turning the Jedi into generals in a war, and usurping the power of the entire republic sealed the emperor's victory over the old Jedi order as they knew it, culminating in Order66. It seems Jedi that spent more time off Coruscant, like Qui Gon, had a closer relationship with the will of the force, and his actions against the will of the Jedi Council was more in line with following the will of the force, as a proper Jedi should have done.
Disney has always been at the leading edge of customer service and how to bring in new customers. You would think the business people at Disney would know that it costs 5 times more to aquire a new customer then it takes to retain an exisiting customer. I am so fed up with this "we will bring in new people". That means aquiring two new cusomers, one for each fan lost and a new one to grow the market.
It is a postmodern 'deconstruction' of the Star Wars universe. "I don't get Star Wars, so if everyone can't enjoy it equally then I will make sure no-one can!"
After Ahsoka ruined any possibility of a slingshot around to Heir to the Empire, I'm basically numb and indifferent. The Acolyte so far is just puerile and annoying. It makes me wonder about the demise of competence, and what kind of business Disney thinks it's in. And to paraphrase the Iron Lady, the problem with pandering is that you run out of other people's money to do it with. Pandering and virtue don't pay the bills. But Disney has NO VIABLE PRODUCT at the moment, not big screen anyway. It's a mystery. Much more of a mystery than this dopey show.
Guy on Twitter pointed out this takes place during a time we could have had old school Yoda show up. But, NOPE. We get Leslye Headland’s wife cast as the bald, green lady. Way better than OG Yoda, am I right guys? 🤮 Wall Street Silver made the post.
I really don’t think it’s likely. I’d heard through the grape vine that whenever they use OG characters, they’re supposed to pay royalties to George Lucas. That was the explanation I heard about why they didn’t have any of the OG characters or places in the Disney Land they built for Star Wars or their billion dollar hotel.
Just wanted to say thanks for buying that Blue Angel mug to support an aviation museum. I do a bit of volunteer work at the Australian Aviation Heritage Museum and merch sales make up a huge chunk of our funding. We have Lancaster Bombers, Catalinas, even a Tornado that flew over Syria and Iraq. They’re not cheap to maintain.
It's funny how they keep saying there is no good or evil in Star Wars, and yet when you get on Disney plus you will find the acolyte show under a category that says "Good vs Evil"
You know Hollywood has really forked things up when people are more excited about the prospect of seeing a mediocre show go from mediocre to truly bad in the next episode that they could ever be about the show itself.
Exactly, that is the most damning indictment of this show I can think of. I literally only want to see how bad they screw it up, because I have zero faith it gets better from here
"Disney and Kennedy know what their fanbase wants and they refuse to give it to them" is spot on. Though, I think that was a George Lucas problem after the original trilogy, as well. The Disney team, at this point, has taken an openly vengeful approach to the franchise's long time fans. There's no other motive--they aren't gaining new fans, they aren't making money, they are making "a point." It's pretty wild.
Most of the fan base, the pre-Disney fan base, is done with Star Wars. Forever. We watch the old movies, read the old books and comics, play the old games. We have given up on any new Star Wars. We just don't care anymore.
this, i given up long time ago on egames too, just recently i finished knights of the old republic 1 on switch and it was a blast to play, there where some moments that where even considered woke today, but not at that time, man, i hate this timeline.
Might just be time to accept that the original trilogy was lightning in a bottle and that's never coming back. Anytime that I want to watch Star Wars i just put in a DVD.
Yep. I'm thinking about going back to the prequels for a re-watch, since it's been years. I wonder how they've aged. I did need some scenes with Anakin, and WHOOO boy his line delivery would make a grade school play look like an Oscar winning performance
@@gregowen2022 the new stuff makes the Prequels look good only by the Prequel's virtue that they put in an earnest effort to break new technical ground and remain true to the values of the originals whereas the new stuff is keen to attack the spiritual centre of the originals. They're trying to do a bad job.
The prequels are horribly written, acted, and directed, but they have a coherent story. The sequel films are more competent in their acting and effects, but there's no story and it leaves you confused and upset. The Disney Plus shows are abominations with not only no story, but no characters, no world, no lesson, no reason to exist. They are spiteful propaganda aimed at blue-haired Tik Tok goblins.
I honestly thought that her being a Meknik would be black slang or some shit like that, I wasn't aware that it wasn't until someone else called her that
In the spirit of Doctor Who, the Acolyte will retcon to explain how humans came to appear a long time ago a galaxy far, far away & became the dominant species.
I don't think she will be fired. I actually begin to wonder if she's actually really good at her job. Because it seems her job is not to keep Star Wars alive, but to liberate a massive piece of popular culture from it's traditionally toxic (ie, male) fanbase and appropriate it for marginalized groups. I don't think they want to participate in the fandom; I think they want to make it "theirs" instead of "ours". I imagine she's totally convinced she's righting grievous wrongs in the world. Kinda like Anakin bringing balance to the force.
This is not bad marketing - this is social engineering. They don't care how many billions of dollars they lose as long as they plant their wicked little seeds in the minds of the next generation.
"There's no good or evil" is something an evil person would say. Even a person who proudly declares they're evil is a saint by comparison.
Can we say ‘Satan’ ?
No because Lucifer is actually smart.
For god’s sake, it’s the exact fucking line Palpatine uses to gaslight Anakin to join the dark side 💀
@@AlexanderCommander999 How can something that does not exist be smart?
There is no good or evil. Prove scientifically that morality exists
I never hate watch these bad shows. I’ve never seen Velma. I’ve never seen rings of power. I’ve never seen madame web. I didn’t watch the all female ghostbusters movie or the boba fett miniseries. But I’ve watched maybe a hundred + hours of RUclips creators complaining about them. Much more entertaining. Nice video and a like from me.
Rings of power isn't as bad as its reputation. The visuals are gorgeous and there are actual character arcs in it but you need to disassociate from the original lotr movies to enjoy it.
@@tamarleahh.2150I made it to the penultimate episode and the storytelling is garbage, the visuals don't save it because lotr is about the characters not the settings. And Galadriel wasn't true to her character. Plot lines didn't make sense and omg was it boring. I gave up after the volcano. HotD had representation and more cohesive storytelling, and while I haven't forgiven George for not finishing the books or D&D for seasons 7 and 8, I can recommend HotD. I recommend RoP to only my worst enemies, sadly those are the ones pushing this ideology.
@@jenn9027 you say Galadriel wasn't true to her character but my point is exactly to disregard what you are supposed to know about her. The Galadriel of the show is a different Galadriel. The character itself does have an arc:
Starting out on a quest to avenge her brother's murder, earning glory but being so obsessed and insecure about her mission that she won't give up and find peace, making tons of mistakes and alienating everyone around her with her selfish obsession and then ultimately paying with the consequence of her rearming the one she swore to destroy. If it weren't for her arrogance and selfishness she would have been able to focus on the real enemy instead of essentially becoming a villain herself. She's asked why she doesn't stop and admits that she doesn't know how. What lies beneath this is her unwillingness to accept the death of her brother and move on with life.
It's not the Galadriel of lotr but it is an interesting exploration into character.
@@tamarleahh.2150 ive saw some clips. the visuals are straight garbage
@@tamarleahh.2150 lol you want everyone to drop existing lore to accept their shitty telling of a great character. Instead, why not make something original.......oh yeah.
This is the result when writing skills are optional
The interviews for everyone involved were visual only
"Ooh. Gonna need a medic that THAT one." -- DustyKatt, "Seven Nation Army Part 3"
But hey, instead of focusing of supporting actual good writers and such we just shove AI into everything .
@@darkzeroprojects4245 we've got ai writers and writers who write like ai
Future is amaze me
@@pumkin610 Sheesh...And someone complained of MY English.
The thing I hate the most is the gaslighting regarding this so-called toxic fanbase. This is a thing KK and others made up. The whole toxic fanbase thing is just a victim ideology invention to keep her (A wealthy millionaire) looking good among her own crowd. No woman was ever unwelcome in star wars until KK declared it and kept using that line (talk about repeating the lie until everyone believes it). The female audience of geek stuff was always small, but they have now all walked away with the men. Hollywood doesn't want to tell stories, they want to tell identity and victimhood, and sadly, I don't see it stopping anytime soon. As a woman, I'm not into it, and I refuse to watch it.
Preach!!
Im still waiting for them to tell a good story
I stopped buying anything Disney related after Guardians 3. It was already bad before, but it felt like it got way worse after Guardians 3.
Nothing like a bunch of woke activists to destroy a good franchise?.
the fact that you waited until the end of your comment to tell us you were a women just makes this mini review so much better it just makes everything you said completely valid and every other non paid actor/reviewer out there was watching this genuinely wanting a good story valid as well but i honesty fear that woke western media will only get worse the days of authentic and genuine passion seen through your art is slowly coming to a close for the west and i want to emphasise on "the WEST" as for me i will not being continuing acolyte i only watched 1 episode to understand it will be a waste of my time but i will be coming to see reviews of this Highly anticipated episode 3 everyone is talking about 😂
Disney spent a ludicrous amount of money to buy multiple franchises so they could capitalize on their massive existing fanbase, then spent a decade intentionally, actively, and OPENLY chasing that existing fanbase away, while barely trying to grow a new one. A confusing business strategy but I'm sure it'll pay off any day now.
Amen! Completely agree. It's absolutely insane.
It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off.
It’s not a business strategy, it’s cultural mark schism: destroy the icons of the old culture.
Disney thought brand recognition alone was enough and people would blindly clap for whatever discharge they eked out.
The thing is, to have an established entertainment brand, HARD WORK was required to ENTERTAIN audiences... thus solidifying it as an entertainment brand.
You can't buy a brand and then dismantle everything of substance about it that helped establish it as a popular brand in the first place.
The era of deconstructionism and woke needs to be slammed into the rubbish bin of history.
It's about propaganda and social engineering, not about good business.
Star Wars is about there IS good and evil. A choice of light versus dark. Not that there “is no good and evil.” For Christ’s sake.
Ah yes. The "I don't feel safe" argument. Me as a short, finnish female with neurological illnesses just feel so unsafe when thease ment for entertainment movies and shows don't have character thats JUST LIKE ME. How am I suppose to feel safe watching them.
Ethän sä voi mitenkään tuntea itsesi turvassa, kun kaikki me miehet sanotaan sulle jatkuvasti että sinä naisena et kuulu star warsiin. Eiks me olla aina tehty niin?
I think some of the actresses are more so worried that they may end up being the target of massive online bullying and death threats like what happened with Kelly Marie Tran and with more minority women in the cast it's harder to single out any one individual for people to direct their intolerance towards. I'm glad you feel safe though, it would be pretty weird if just watching anything made you, or anyone, feel unsafe.
@kxbewsky
Kellie Marie Tran received ZERO threats or violence. Not once did she say she did, and she literally only said ONE thingrrelated to Star Wars in her "goodbye" tweet. There is ZERO evidence that ANY of these people, like Kellie, Jake (kid Ani), or Ahmed (Jar Jar) received any real backlash from the fans, and a whole MESS of evidence that the backlash they received was exclusively from the main stream media.
We're there some fans that did? I'd bet there were a few. But only a tiny, insignificant fraction of the fanbase.
@@dragonmaster1360 people act like we all dont receive hate online. What do you do if some rando sends you a dm? You literally ignore it and move on lmfao these people cry "cyber bully" but literally, how? turn off the fucking screen
It couldn't be simpler for me. I'm tired of performative diversity. I'm tired of being told all the details of these peoples' boring, lifeless lives. And for god sake am I tired of this fake "moral ambiguity" being inserted into every single story. I already knew the show wasn't for me, but even if it was, it just sounds like a waste of time, and judging by what they discussed about the upcoming episode on Open Bar last night, it's only getting worse from here.
Great video as always, Greg.
Especially tired of "haha the white man is clueless, evil or a passionless jerk"
You know that group that creates a ton of great stuff and these days just wants to live their lives without current day ridicule? These online freaks need a therapist
"Just remember guys...there was a food court on the Death Star. So before you celebrate it's destruction by way of Anakin...yes Anakin Skywalker...just know there was a kid working a summer job at the Mrs. Fields cookie shop that didn't always approve of what the Empire was up to that also died." - Charlie Barnett
There also might’ve been a Starbucks with Baristas secretly plotting to overthrow Emperor Palpatine.
When you mention Mrs. Fields all I can think of is "I'm taking this couch!"
And the shift manager at that Mrs. Fields was only two days away from retirement...
Sbarro employees:
Hey Bob, why do all the lights dim and the station shakes occasionally? And then I hear that the planet that we were just orbiting mysteriously exploded.
I don't know, but I was trying to get with that scary goth, death chick who wears the really odd helmet, and she said that she couldn't tell me what she did for the Empire, because they'd kill me.
@@daveleevicks8749 "Ah dammit, it's wedged! It's wedged! You know what? Just keep going, I'll hold onto this and we'll figure it out later."
The fact that they haven't even considered a Revan movie, shows they have no knowledge of what the fandom wants. Although, as they keep murdering characters, I'm kinda glad they leave him alone
Yeah. I'm honestly glad they haven't tried yet with the Old Republic.
True. I can only imagine how badly they would screw up Revan, and they don't have the balls to make HK47
I love the old Republic era, my favorite being KOTOR 2, I would love to see Darth Kreia on screen.
However, if Disney was in charge of it, Bastilla (who would be a lesbian) would be the true hero and it would end with Palpatine somehow going back in time to be the big bad.
I honestly don't think revan should be made into a movie, because his story is best suited for the video games.
A better choice would be darth bane. His story as told through the bane trilogy is very solid for a 3 part film trilogy, and would easily satisfy all fans, even Disney progressives since banes apprentice is a woman named zannah, and she kills him in the 3rd book to continue the rule of 2. It's an easy win.
Oh my God....that is what I've been asking for. And frankly, they don't even have to write a script, KOTOR did it for them....however, Disney would STILL mess it up 10 ways to Sunday
Holy shit, we've finally got there. We're finally at the point where blowing up the Death Star has become "morally grey". We are now full post-modernism.
It's incredible that someone can even inhabit that head space unironically. It makes me worry that Charlie is a bad person if he is unable to make very clear moral distinctions
@@gregowen2022 You act like you think that empire had good hiring practices and everyone got to choose where they were stationed. What about the fact that a lot of soldiers in the empire were conscripted as children from conquered worlds and brainwashed and indoctrinated into the military with the penalty for disobedience being death. Isn't it at least a little grey to have to kill hundreds of thousands of slave soldiers who literally never had a choice. And before the Death Star actually fired, it is unclear as to how many people on it actually knew it was a planet killer and not just a mobile base. It was definitely right to destroy it when he did, the Death Star needed to be stopped, but I have to imagine Luke spared at least some thought and mourning after the war for the fact that he had to indiscriminately kill so many people instead of getting the chance to save those who were pressed into service, after all he is the same kid who tried to save Vader. I mean, you might only see it as black and white, but I don't think Luke did.
To be fair, the discussion of how Death Star also had people who were just doing their jobs like mechanics, isnt really new. Kevin Smith asked that 20+ years ago while he still was fat and didnt lost weight and with that all of his creativity. But nobody should wonder whether its a good act to destroy Death Star when The Empire already killed millions of people in Alderan with it and plans to kill many more who just dare to oppose them.
@@kxbrewskyquit posting essays under every comment
@@yeetthegargantuanleviathan6216 I'll have you know, I had already grown tired of this and finished by the time you wrote this, and I have stopped of my own accord, not because you said so. People are only arguing points I've already covered now anyway. Good day to you, sir.
Kennedy "The fanbase is predominantly male." Also Kennedy, "The force is female..."
"&^%$ the Force."
So basically, not ghey enufff
She was dumb enough to think she could fundamentally change it without any detrimental effects. She probably still thinks that.
I will never consider anything KK does cannon. She's nowhere near qualified to retcon the most fundamental tenet to the franchise.
The fanbase like characters like OG Shaak Ti and Ahsoka so a female focussed show wouldn't have been an issue. It's the male-hating dialogue that alienates fans.
I never felt "left out" as a female fan of OG Star Wars. I even really dislike the Jedi because of how emotionally repressive they are which has consistently led to minds weak to Sith corruption.
I'd be as equally down for a male led show as much as a female one but I don't need to hear from either how great they are just because of what's between their legs.
Tbf The Acolyte makes me want to exclude myself because I don't think any sex is morally superior so their dialogue is ridiculously off-putting.
It's kind of wild that the Scene has gone from "The Empire is obviously nazis and always evil" to "blowing up the Death Star was a morally gray act actually" in just a year's time.
but Anakin blew up the Death Star.....
Skywalker blows up the death star: the empire is obviously evil
Anakin blows up the death star: maybe the empire isn't so bad after all?
Actually Lucas said he was thinking about the Viet Cong for the rebels so I think you mean to say "The Empire is obviously America and always evil." But also the morally gray thing has been a funny debate ever since Clerks; It didn't just spring up in the past year.
@@kxbrewskythe Clerks conversation was about the second Death Star, which was still under construction; IIRC Randall grants that the first Death Star (the one destroyed by Anak--Luke) was destroyed in an act of was and manned by enemy combatants. Saying that the destruction of the first Death Star, a superweapon used to kill billions of people in a single strike, is "morally gray" is either evidence that this person is an idiot, or that he/she watched Clerks a few years ago, doesn't totally remember the conversation but is trying to sound smart.
@@wyssmaster That's fair, it has been a while since I've seen it, and I will admit to being at least partially an idiot, but I more so mean that Randal helped to open up conversations about the morality of some things in Star Wars that had previously been taken for granted. I didn't mean that we've all been repeating that exact same conversation for 30 years. Randal does grant the first Death Star, but I'd say he may have been quick to do so. He is essentially saying that since everyone on DS1 was an Imperial that means they are all evil, which is an easy assumption to make, but probably not actually the case. We do know of at least one cantina from the Death Star novel, the Hard Heart, which was run by a Twi'lek after her bar on Coruscant suspiciously burned down, and while she and her people did escape after learning the DS was in fact a planet killer, not just a mobile base, we don't know how many other services were strong armed into taking positions on the ship and didn't have a chance to escape. Ignoring them, we can't even say that all the imps were completely evil. We know for a fact that the Empire conscripted a lot children from conquered planets into the military then indoctrinated and straight up brainwashed them to be good little soldiers and killed anyone they deemed untrainable. I'm not saying that Luke shouldn't have taken the shot, and I don't think anyone is saying that. The Death Star needed to be destroyed, but I do think it's at least a little gray to kill, potentially, hundreds of thousands of slave soldiers who literally never had another choice except for death. I imagine, since he was a good person, after the war Luke probably felt some regret or mourning or some kinda way for having to indiscriminately end so many lives instead being able to save those who were pressed into service. He even tried to save Vader in the end, so I always assumed he didn't think in simple black and white.
Also, you don't need to be rude when replying to people, you can just argue the points instead of resorting to name calling. Regardless, I will say I checked out your channel, and I really enjoy your music. Wellspring is beautiful. I hope that the lack of views didn't get you down and that you are still composing.
Disney is acting like a Server at a restaurant who spits in the food of customers....in front of said customers and then acts shocked when they get no tips, only complaints.
Disney is acting like a server at a restaurant who wants spitting in customers' food to become a perfectly normal and regular thing. So he keeps doing it and hopes that shaming his customers for having problems with it will eventually get them to shut up and accept it.
Endured the first two eps. The biggest sin any kind of sci-fi can commit is that it's boring. The only reason we're discussing it (like you said) is because its Star Wars. Star Wars is officially dead. Just waiting for the funeral to take place so I can pay my respects.
Youre a bit late, it was 100% over when disney acquired it, back when they copied a new hope scene for scene.
There won't be a funeral if people keep rewarding them by boosting viewership numbers!
Yep, how you can make a show about space ninjas with laser swords boring is beyond me
It's been dead since TRoS.
TLJ dealt the murder blow.
The recent Dune movies are taking over the void left by Disney's Star Wars
Kathleen doesn't care because she's not burning her own money. Tie her paycheck to the profits of the things she produces.
Even if that did happen, how much would you bet that she would take the losses like a champ because she's rich, and she'd believe that she's making progress and that the loss of money is just because bad people won't watch it
With how obsessed they are about modern day politics I’m legit surprised Palpatines plan on TRoS wasn’t build a wall
A Dyson Sphere, maybe?
Wasn't everyone going on about how Orange Man Bad was going to start World War 3 by then? Maybe they thought that was a clear enough reference.
It would probably be the Republic building that since they're apparently saying the space nazi's aren't THAT evil. Like destroying a planet full of innocent people on a whim wasn't evil.
There's no such thing as a civillian on the Death Star
That's like having a bunch of civilians working on an aircraft carrier for some reason. In port sure, but when the ship is at sea everyone on board is a member of the military.
Seriously. When I was a kid, the only tiny bit of a regret I had was the likelihood that there were some other prisoners in the cell blocks after they rescued Leia. But now that I’m no longer a five-year-old I realize pretty much any of those prisoners would’ve been willing to die so that the death star wouldn’t be able to kill more planets.
They chose to be there. The death star was also a massive troop transport
I'm not gonna say that Luke shouldn't have taken the shot, it was probably for the best for it to be done at that moment. I do feel like everyone here is forgetting the fact that a shit ton of empire soldiers were forcefully conscripted as children, brainwashed and indoctrinated into the imperial military, with often the only alternative being death, for the purpose of being front line fodder. I know Luke is a good person too, so I imagine he would have taken some time, after the war, to mourn the fact that he had to kill hundreds of thousands of slave soldiers who had no choice their whole lives ever since the empire conquered their planets. And I mean he did try to save Vader later right? That's kinda grey too right, turning the bad guy back to good? I just don't think Luke sees everything so black and white; he probably did think about the cantina workers.
Also it's unclear as to how many people on the Death Star knew of its full capabilities before it was actually fired, and once it was used on Alderaan it was destroyed within 24 hours, before it could recharge and be used again. So anyone who abruptly learned that they were on a planet killer and suddenly didn't want to be their anymore probably didn't have time to escape. And before you say "but it was called the Death Star, how could they not know", it really does fit with a naming scheme along side the Star Destroyer, which, we all know, could not, in fact, destroy stars.
@@kxbrewsky Fair and well reasoned points. Most soldiers regret the lives they took. Jedi certainly do as well.
The problem is when people try to act like there is somehow equivalency in Luke’s case. Even if there were some people on the death star that arguably didn’t deserve to die, there is simply no way to justify leaving the death star intact. What triggers so many people is when the creators of Star Wars content are so out of touch and so full of themselves that they insist on things that just don’t work. Their morality and view of the world is so twisted, allowing them to justify search rotten things as insulting their own fans or dismissing the value of George Lucas, that we are sick and tired of nearly everything they say. So even if there are tiny kernels of truth, we absolutely don’t want to hear it from these particular people. We need them to shut up and go away.
The thing that all these people seem to miss with the Death Star is that LUKE killed about a million COMBATANTS. By blowing up Alderaan, the empire killed 2 billion civilians. Those two things aren’t even close to comparable
Exactly. It's the same as attacking Tirpitz.
Even in the case of the DS2, its a WMD and the contractors have to know that. Even if they don't, you knew you would be working on a military project. There are risks inherent in that even without an active insurgency/rebellion going on.
The same pathetic kind seems to miss why IDF had to go to Gaza. They are crazy in a very aggressive and dangerous way. It is even more dangerous since a large percentage of our country do not identify them as mentally ill. They have a huge problem identifying evil from good
I wouldn’t be surprised if one of the characters, about to be killed by a Jedi, says something like, “I can’t breathe,” or, “don’t shoot,” as some sort of Easter egg to real world events.
Hahahaha, oh that’s so absurd and insanely on the nose that now I think it’s probably going to happen. They can’t help themselves from doing stuff like that
Or throwing in some DELIBERATE Jewish stereotypes in a sadistic oppression-for-oppression's-sake character?
"Oh, my ID? Let me reach into my back pocket real qui-"
Jedi: Taser!
Now that you've mentioned it, I will be surprised if we don't see a Jedi force-choking someone with dark skin. The acting direction in the script will, undoubtedly, call for them to "Sneer racistly" as they do. Not sure how they'll convey that, but it'll be great TV I'm sure, they're saving Star Wars here guys.
I don't think the original trilogy really did a good job of showing how bad life under the stormtroopers was, aside from blowing up a planet which is more of a vader and palps thing. Not saying that such a direct reference to modern real world events and problems is such a good idea though. Many stories usually feature an oppressed or persecuted species or group so it can't be that hard to deliver a message about oppression in a satisfactory way. 🤔
“Growing up with Star Wars” has vastly different meanings depending on the generation you were born in.
Who is Star Wars for anymore?
These actors and screenwriters didn't even watch Star Wars before working on this. SMH
It's for the lgbt comunity now, if indeed that is a thing.
I'm sure there's enough of them to tune in and bolster the viewing figures...
@@paulmurgatroyd6372lgtbq do indeed have a community and no they are not full of simps
People who love poor production value and seal clap star wars
@@paulmurgatroyd6372 the LGBTQ+ community is a thing, though from what I'm aware, even they are sick and tired of the forced diversity and agenda in a lot of media. personally, i just want a well-written character in a well-written story. if a character happens to be gay, that's cool, but that one aspect of their character shouldn't define their entire personality, and ESPECIALLY not the entire story.
Lesbian protagonist number 1 vs lesbian protagonist number 2 That’s the extent of their characters
Thinking of the Cat in the Hat introducing Thing 1 and Thing 2...
It's not just a mistake. He twice said Anakin blew up the Death Star. He has zero knowledge of star wars, thus shouldn't be anywhere near a star wars production.
I just want to throw out that the scene of the Jedi guy unrobed was more hypocritical than disturbing. As a woman, I don't want to see unnecessary nudes of women, but I don't want to see it of men either - ESPECIALLY since it's somehow not considered wrong when it's a naked guy.
Can you imagine nowadays if it was a topless woman on that scene, and men became excited? Male gaze! Oh no! It's misogyny some how. So hypocritical.
There’s so much “two opposite wrongs, make a right” type thinking, instead of moving beyond historical “bad” gender tropes. I noticed a lot of that in Barbie too.
thanks for the honest comment. I appreciate it coming from a woman
I’m afraid their target demographic is actually children. They really don’t care about fans getting upset or low ratings, as kids don’t care about movie ratings or what adults say on the internet. And money is obviously not an issue or the goal for Disney because this has been happening for many years now. So what is the goal, then? Maybe it is to influence young generations with a particular worldview.
That a very good, very scary point. This push for moral relativity on children is disgusting.
that's probably very true however how will those kids ever watch something their parents won't take them to see right? that's the problem Disney is going to have in today's culturally divided world. sure they may catch it on tv once it comes out but that just mean they are losing more money to reeducate children on tv. that'll be some thing that they can afford for only so long.
@@gregowen2022Moral Relativity isn't moral at all.
Even if they fired every creative in Lucas Film, it would take a minimum of six years to regain lost fans.
At this point, the IP would have to be sold to a different company that appreciates it. It's apparent the people running the current one don't and never will. Even a turnaround wouldn't bring me back as long as Disney has it. They dislike the old fans so much, they can get bent.
That's generous.
I don't think it would take that long for me to come back. All it would take is maybe one or two shows and one or two good movies reviewed by people I trust to get me to come back
They would also have to wipe out all leadership roles, this is a total failure from the top down, company wide failure
It would require starting from scratch, with people who have a passion for the property, and about fifteen years to forget the dreck that was 'not for us.' Do we require fifteen years of nothing? No, getting fifteen years of good content would help us to forget.
"...maybe to increase their female market share..." Which is ironic because Disney first bought Marvel and Lucasfilm because they were concerned they were too much of a "girl brand" with their focus on Disney Princesses. How times have changed.
A leopard can’t change her spots.
I recall their acquisition of male IPs to be aimed at gaining a male audience, due to their other primarily princess based properties.
However, they didn't have to do anything special with Star Wars, to have their cake and eat it too... They had Princess Leia and Princess Padme, and probably Princess Cara (there are hints she was related to the Organa family in some way, and she was from Alderan.)
This whole concept of shunning their male dominated fan base, in favor of smaller "less represented" groups, is mind boggling from any sensible perspective that assumes they're in business, and only takes on some form of reason when you see it from the lens described in this video above.
Everything isn't always for everybody, or as Arrowhead Studios say, "If our games are for everybody, then it's for nobody"
It's definitely a misnomer. People are welcome to join any hobby if they want to partake in it. But the truth is not everyone will have an interest in, say, crocheting. Crocheting is not for me and I'm secure in that and don't want to get into it.
@@SamtheBravesFan but that's only a partial analogy. What they're really doing is actually having an interest in crocheting because it's cool, but they don't like to use crochet hooks. So they decide that the proper way to crochet is to use socket wrenches instead, and they change the way crocheting is done so that you can do it with socket wrenches, and then make everybody who already crochets switch over to using socket wrenches. Maybe it still works for some people, but it's no longer crocheting.
Im still laughing at how she hides her face, when everything about her just expose her identity, especially her hair, writers are trying to pull a Superman with/without glasses move, but its failing miserably
She even strolls past someone in the Jedi temple with her mask up! No one finds that suspicious?
I mean, they knew she looked like Osha, so, yeah ... not a good disguise. Worse than Superman.
It'd be one thing if it was the bald green Shrek looking clueless Jedi master or the snarky female Padawan who didn't know her, but that Carrie Ann Moss Jedi would know her asap. Also this show forgot Jedi can sense other Jedi coming
Amazing that the twins grew up to style their hair in the exact same distinctive style.
@@lumostsumos9049Omg 😂 this seriously is probably the most ridiculous way of hiding…..um, who the killer is? Lol so ridiculous
The excessive empathy for morally reprehensible people needs to end. A tragic backstory or consequence shouldn't be an excuse.
Agreed, being raised under an "oppressor" doesn't excuse morally problematic actions by the "oppressed".
@@yocappy-ve7jf exactly. Avatar had a great episode about Jet that made that point
Yes! The Jet episode was the perfect response to this kind of moral relativism
they know themselves villains, so they identify and try to soften the audience for them.
@@yocappy-ve7jf "If I am in pain, I am justified" is something you'll see in psychology to separate poor actions/behaviour from blame or fault. For example, you wouldn't blame an animal for fighting back if it was cornered by something with ill intent.. it's jus that people will use that dynamic as an excuse to do whatever they want
If Headland was a man, she'd be in jail for helping Harvey commit his crimes.
This statement is 100% true. Worse, these people think they're actually getting jobs based on their creative talent.
Facts
Absolutely correct. She gets away with it because she is female and gay.
She's so creepy
@@MarklovesAngelsthe Max Landis delusion.
Palpatine put the Jedi in a position where they’d never been before, using war and politics to corrupt them along with Anakin.
20min fight, stop, "why are you here?". Answer, "to kill you". 😂
So. Many. Stupid. Things.
It’s subtle
Aside from its massive weapon, the Death Star also hosted children's daycare centers, retirement homes for elderly Sith, a garden run by lesbians that produced organic vegetables, a bunny farm, and a reasonably priced Starbucks, so yes blowing it up was pure evil! Bad Anakin is bad!
😂😂😂
I didn't know that there are so many reasons to be happy because of DS destruction.
Swear Disney is like that one kid, trying to cram a square shaped block into a triangle slot.. over and over again. While wondering why it won’t work….
That's right! It goes in the square hole-...
It's honestly sad. It's kind of like seeing your old girl friend, but now she's dating a drug dealer and has no teeth...
People just really need to stop hate watching. Regardless if it's negative, it is still views and it still encourages them to go down that route. We need to completely cut this stuff out.
I mean you have a point. But at the same time, a reviewer can sometimes show people why a bad show is bad, and maybe give some advice to those who want to avoid making mistakes for their own stories.
We sometimes need to learn from mistakes to avoid them.
@@lorimartin6819 You also have a point, but with thousands of RUclips reviewers that have to watch for said review, that's the thousands of views plus any viewers from their possible millions of audience members that then want to watch it for themselves.
@@lorimartin6819 It's an endless cycle at that point lol.
@@lorimartin6819 no. stop watching it. Literally, thats how you stop this shit. You talking about it, stop reviewing it. This is nothing but advertisement.
@@jimmythecrow I haven’t watched the show itself, trust me. Honestly I’m not even a fan of Star Wars, this review just popped up in my recommendations and I was curious. I’m not giving the show anymore of my attention. Also, I do agree that reviewers don’t sometimes add views to bad shows, but from what I’ve heard the show is already bombing in views anyway.
Nevermind claiming it was Anakin, he makes this equivalence between Darth Vader (and the Empire, who blew up Alderaan and oppressed a galaxy) and the destruction of a massive battlestation filled with enemy soldiers. I'd hate to hear this guy's thoughts on Hiroshima.
Not Hiroshima. Auschwitz.
The crew of the Death Star directly blew up Alderaan. It was a military station, there were no civilians aboard. The people of Hiroshima didn't directly kill anyone -- it was an industrial and manufacturing town.
The better comparison is Auschwitz. He is saying the Allied soldiers who liberated Auschwitz are just as bad as the -z who worked there because they killed the -z to do it.
@@enkiduthewildman very true! It was a military battle station, a huge weapon, so of course it's justified to destroy it! Good call.
I thought it was a slip up until I saw him say it multiple times. Definitely not a slip up.
When it comes to the Old Republic, Disney better keep their hands off it. They'll make Revan look so terrible.
I could not believe how bad the action was. I've seen kids acting out TMNT that looked more convincing
A lot of it was obviously filmed slow and sped up, and that can’t be unseen. It looked to much like choreography, you’re not supposed to see the obvious choreography underneath, that’s what makes movie magic, but this production obviously doesn’t care
@@gregowen2022 doesn't care or doesn't know? I would argue the latter, reinforcing the diversity hire stereotype
Can we time travel to stop George L from selling to Disney and hiring KK??
the thing is, would he believe your reasoning? It's so absurd he'd probably laugh you off
‘There is no good or evil’ is what evil people say because it means there is no accountability to their actions
I'm so tired of my heroes being deconstructed and my expectations subverted. It's boring and not fun anymore.
Absolutely this!! Nobody. NOBODY was a Star Wars fan because the original movies subverted their expectations. That crap is for new IP, where you subvert story archetype expectations. Not for existing properties where you subvert the existing canon.
Clerks dialogue is now an actual talking point in 2024 Star Wars? What a time to be alive.
It's always been an actual talking point. Clerks made the argument correctly though so nobody brought it up
We knew it was going to be terrible from the first announcements because they emphasized the woke attributes instead of the StarWars lore or plot or even action pieces
Yep, exactly. When the show was announced and the only article available was Leslie talking about how her queerness would get into the writing, it was obvious.
Yep. The first thing heard about RoP was how diverse their Hobbitts are and we all know how that dreadful show turned out.
Two things with the door droid hacking scene. Why recruit an accomplice to alert the droid first, when she could have just stuck the stupid device on it at any time without even talking to it? Second, if such devices exist, then why would a Jedi Temple or a Hutt crime palace use that as their only security system? Top notch story telling.
Yep, it was all a stupid contrivance so the little girl could point at Osha and say “it was her”, but by that time, it had already been revealed that the twin exists, so….. yeah, pointless
At this point i don't want them to EVER touch Revan! They'll butcher him/her and everything pertaining to them! Good god don't ever let them touch the old republic!
Pretty sure they hired a wokie that hates the first game to do the remake...
As a woman i HATE that those people think that i would watch a bad written (and shot!) show that just has more female screen time. Like, who cares? Not me!
Its far more disrespectful to us, thinking that we just need "representation" to enjoy something and not a good storytelling.
I also hate this idea that you can only associate yourself with a character that has your gender, orientation, race etc. Like, no???? Its good having more people that are not white men in cinema, but i can perfectly associate myself and feel seen if a male character has my problems, temperament, emotions. Or just something that i can understand. At this point i don't care who the character is. It becomes just a good character. And you know, I don't even have to understand and associate myself with a character to enjoy it.
Yeah, it's always seemed like a very insulting attitude for Disney and others to assume that the female audience is so shallow that they only care about seeing reflections of themselves instead of being intellectually or emotionally stimulated by what is happening on screen. Tells you a lot about the people making this crap, they really ARE that shallow
Agreed. I didn't need to be a parent or a woman to relate to Sarah Connor. I didn't need to be a Mexican to empathize with Miguel Rivera from _Coco._ And I've always said that Connor Kenway from _Assassin's Creed III_ is literally me, despite myself not being Mohawk or Native American at all.
If you need a character to look exactly like you before you could relate to their personality and struggles, guess what? That makes you a narcissist and a sociopath.
This is one reason they'll never understand fiction, fantasy, science fantasy, super hero stories, anything with non-human characters... they lack empathy, and "need" to "see themselves" in the characters...
That rebel moon joke was phenomenal. lol.
I want so badly to have been joking, but I genuinely got so bored I started wondering about wheat.
@@gregowen2022 That's awesome (in a bizarrely sad way) that you started thinking about wheat. I actually decided to work on my taxes while watching Rebel Moon, when I looked up there was a fight scene on some tower/bridge thing and I went back to my taxes due to how bored I found a fight scene. You know you are doing something wrong when some of your audience members starts thinking "doing my taxes is more interesting than this movie".
(Random note: I filed an extension as I was waiting on some documentation, hence why I didn't file my taxes by April 15 - because I know someone will call me a liar otherwise).
No one truly expected this show to good.
I truly believe not even Grace Randolph expected good things. I mean, she's still shilling for it, but I want to believe that deep in her soul she does know it's awful
@@gregowen2022 Grace can be excused. All that peroxide has corroded her cognitive abilities.
@@gregowen2022it’s the highest rotten tomato rated Star Wars project
@@garenthal9638
Why should anyone care what critics think? Besides, It's also the lowest rated Star Wars project too.
@@gregowen2022she's disingenuous she plays to her base audience which is a mix of people so she flip flops
It continues to feel like someone went into a busy popular toy store and bought everything so no one else can play. Then in some vengeful way, due to sibling or some real or made up male telling them "this is the way you play with these", they purposefully play with everything in the "wrong" way. All while looking around gleefully at the disgust on the rest of the people in the store that now have to go home empty handed.
I laughed out loud thinking of Greg sitting through the drudgery that is Rebel Moon, looking for something interesting to do, Googling wheat harvesting, its refining for food, how much wheat in loaf of bread, etc. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
"Wokeness really is a philosophy of envy and revenge". If that is not the absolute best description of the woke, I don't know what is. All of these "woke shows" just FEEL like an expensive "suck it!" aimed right at us each and every time they get a new show to ruin.
worst of all, you can sense it before you ever think of seeing it
"There is no good or evil..."
My childhood was offended by this. 😄
Can we also take a moment and realise that the guy who "betrayed her" was at the moment at state of mind no better than lobotomized ape?
He was just woken up from, God knows how real time long, nightmare worst in the history of his entire bloodline.
And it happened while the ship was being torn to pieces.
He should get a hug, blanket and something warm to drink, instead of letting him guilt himself over something he had *no control* over.
Star Woke the Farce Awokens
One thing you won't hear at either Walmart or Target " mom, or dad buy me those Acolyte figures and ships".
Every time I hear an actor saying the director listened to them I know we are in trouble. Unless the actor is a someone of status with tons of experience, actors don't need to be listened to because they aren't writers.
There are some exceptions to that. Harrison Ford ad-lobbed the “I know” line over George Lucas’s objections
@@matityaloran9157 Actors should be listened to for tweaking dialogue, but generally not plot.
Everyone has an example of an actor ad-libbing and improving a scene (sticking with Harrison Ford, the swordsman scene in Lost Ark), but a director shouldn't be "malleable." A director's ONLY job is to be the unmoving center point that everyone else revolves around. If they aren't that, then they aren't THE director.
@@admthrawnuru Fair
When a show sucks but they hope to get a pass because diversity 😂
"I learned so much about Star Wars from Leslye"
Also Leslye:
"Did you know Anakin destroyed the Death Star?"
"REALLY? I'm gonna totally use that in my next interview"
The Jedi being "corrupt" in some form is an idea that I think Star Wars really needs to address, given it is embedded into the very core of the narrative, but almost no-one is willing to actually do so honestly. There is a difference between nuance and contrarianism, and most people either die on the hill that the Jedi were always the "good guys" or they'd rather die than admit they were ever good at all. The entire prequel trilogy, which itself is the foundation for the entire star wars series narratively, was trying to convey the idea of a flawed Jedi order.
It was showing that the Jedi are basically Spartans from Halo; children taken from an extremely young age, psychologically conditioned to believe and think the way that they 'should', and trained as warriors. The Jedi order very explicitly was restrictive and, while noble in intention, was always supposed to be flawed and morally dubious at times. The Sith mirrored the morally dubious execution, but flipped the noble intentions on their head. The Jedi were essentially driven by stoic ideals, but faced the issue that it's hard to induce stoicism in people which lead to cases like Anakin where Palpatine, through pretending to be a supportive father-like figure, was able to coerce him. In other words they were defined by legitimately virtuous stoic ideals, but always walked the line between stoicism and repression. When you try to impose the idea of virtuous self sacrifice onto others, is it really "self" sacrifice, or is it you sacrificing on their behalf? The original trilogy was about rediscovering the Jedi order and bringing back the righteous peace keepers of ages past, and the prequel trilogy was about investigating the flaws in the allegedly flawless Jedi order which made it fall in the first place. However, the prequels also kinda sucked and the original trilogy didn't, so you got split fanbase of people who either A : forgot the prequels entirely and see the Jedi as pure-good against the pure-evil Sith, or B : leaned too far into the prequels entirely and forgot that the Jedi were still stupposed to be good overall. It would be like if a bridge collapsed due to structural failures, and then half of the population remained convinced that it was still perfectly sturdy and standing and the other half of the population remained convinced it never stood in the first place. Now those two sets of people have to work together to build a new bridge believing both that the old flawed design is perfect and still standing, *_and_* that it was so horrible it never worked in the first place. You're never going to get a good bridge from these people working together because they're *_both_* wrong and neither understand the dynamics at play.
George Lucas for his, admittedly significant flaws when it came to understanding some things, was willing to approach topics with nuance. However, now that it's , "nuance" is being conflated with simple contrarianism and that false equivalency is being abused by people to tell the story they want to tell, even if it doesn't actually make any sense.
You're right about all of this
Not sure if Disney is going to include competent writers but still
Well said. The Jedi were never corrupt. They were always "the good guys."
Maybe they failed to change with the times, or simply failed to recognize that the times were changing and they were being manipulated, but that doesn't even mean that they were wrong. Just short sighted, and "flawed" does not mean "evil." If there's one thing that George got right about the prequels, it's the larger themes and subtle nuanced concepts at play. Unfortunately, the writing, dialog, character work, and storytelling were so bad that everyone assumed that there was nothing to discuss about them (maybe rightly so). A lot of those themes and nuances just fade into the background.
Yes! This subtle line is so hard to walk for many writers who want to bludgeon their audience one way or another. Another story that does this well is (shocking) Wheel of Time with its White Tower of female magic users. They divide themselves into seven colored groups, but there is an eighth group, a black group that works for The Dark One. No one in the tower will acknowledge that the black group exists and deals harshly with anyone who suggests it. Their belief that it is IMPOSSIBLE for one of them to turn to the dark is exactly what allows so many black sisters to exist. Their rigid rules are exactly what he enemy uses to turn many of them. It’s such a cool idea to explore how being too rigid makes you brittle, but being too flexible might be corrupting in its own way, like you allow too much bad to happen in the name of being flexible.
Instead, Headland went with “Jedi corrupt cops”. Sigh, we’re doomed.
@@gregowen2022 OFC there's room for an "Eddard Stark"(inflexible "Lawful Good") view of the Jedi. But corruption?
Corruption implies a change of state or fundamental nature, not the disadvantages of a steady state.
Star Wars *needs* "Good vs Evil". Corruption of Good _must_ lead inevitably to the Dark Side. The "grey area" is occupied by the likes of Han Solo. And there's room in Star Wars for "grey area to Good/Bad" stories & "no Jedi, no Sith" stories).
OFC The Acolyte can't do this. As per your explanation of its true themes, The Acolyte is not a Star Wars story.
They wanted "Big" characters, but _not_ the Star Wars versions (Jedi and Sith), because they don't work in a story about moral relativism (plus some incidental repression of their modern enemies /lol).
So "old-school" Star Wars fans "forced them" to corrupt Star Wars in order to "do the right thing for humanity" :)
The Acolyte will certainly contribute to the good of humanity. But not in the way its creators intend.
I wouldn't go so far as to say they were corrupt.
I would say that having built their temple on Coruscant atop an ancient Sith site allowed the emperor to cloud their otherwise strong connection to the force and their ability to sense its will. Since the point of the Jedi was to carry out the will of the force, maintaining balance (no, not equal dark and light... GL said the dark was always imbalance, and bringing balance to the force was destroying the sith. The light side is Always balanced on its own.).
Over the years, perhaps due to prophesies and visions, they became overly strict and overly cautious in regards to their rules and regulations. They allowed fear of Jedi students turning to the dark side, to influence their decisions. They decided that they had to start training new Jedi at an age early enough that they never formed "attachments" that they would fear losing. They limited relationships that Jedi were allowed to have. There was no evil or corrupt intention here, just way too much caution and fear.
In practice, the Jedi order is not evil. It's not great, but it's not evil. By the time of the movies, they had become respected as peace keepers, but not cops. They were held in so high regard and were so skilled, that they were asked to do things by the Republic's leadership. This inherently lead to involvement in politics... and since they couldn't really see or feel clearly what the will of the force was, they defaulted to keeping peace, assuming maintaining peace in the republic is what the force would want them to do. They allowed themselves to become tools of the political entities... and the emperor had been weaseling his way into control of the political powers, and by proxy, the Jedi themselves.
The final manipulation of creating the war with the separatists, turning the Jedi into generals in a war, and usurping the power of the entire republic sealed the emperor's victory over the old Jedi order as they knew it, culminating in Order66.
It seems Jedi that spent more time off Coruscant, like Qui Gon, had a closer relationship with the will of the force, and his actions against the will of the Jedi Council was more in line with following the will of the force, as a proper Jedi should have done.
Disney has always been at the leading edge of customer service and how to bring in new customers. You would think the business people at Disney would know that it costs 5 times more to aquire a new customer then it takes to retain an exisiting customer. I am so fed up with this "we will bring in new people". That means aquiring two new cusomers, one for each fan lost and a new one to grow the market.
Communists don't understand capitalism. Which is why it always fails.
It is a postmodern 'deconstruction' of the Star Wars universe. "I don't get Star Wars, so if everyone can't enjoy it equally then I will make sure no-one can!"
I’m doing my part by not watching this series. I suggest everyone else do the same.
After Ahsoka ruined any possibility of a slingshot around to Heir to the Empire, I'm basically numb and indifferent. The Acolyte so far is just puerile and annoying. It makes me wonder about the demise of competence, and what kind of business Disney thinks it's in. And to paraphrase the Iron Lady, the problem with pandering is that you run out of other people's money to do it with. Pandering and virtue don't pay the bills. But Disney has NO VIABLE PRODUCT at the moment, not big screen anyway.
It's a mystery. Much more of a mystery than this dopey show.
stunning and brave new star war confirms that you, the viewer, were the evil one the whole time
The true Phantom Menace.
Guy on Twitter pointed out this takes place during a time we could have had old school Yoda show up. But, NOPE. We get Leslye Headland’s wife cast as the bald, green lady. Way better than OG Yoda, am I right guys? 🤮
Wall Street Silver made the post.
I'm scared for Yoda to show up. I can only imagine how they'll destroy him
I know I've loved the KK Lucasfilm treatment of OG Star Wars male characters. Definitely a missed opportunity, and in no way a dodged bullet.
I really don’t think it’s likely. I’d heard through the grape vine that whenever they use OG characters, they’re supposed to pay royalties to George Lucas. That was the explanation I heard about why they didn’t have any of the OG characters or places in the Disney Land they built for Star Wars or their billion dollar hotel.
"We are going to quiet down the rhetoric"- Bob (LIE)ger
Just wanted to say thanks for buying that Blue Angel mug to support an aviation museum. I do a bit of volunteer work at the Australian Aviation Heritage Museum and merch sales make up a huge chunk of our funding. We have Lancaster Bombers, Catalinas, even a Tornado that flew over Syria and Iraq. They’re not cheap to maintain.
Hearing women complain about being personally attacked by fans clearly never had a sign written about them and how they graped our childhood.
Not even going to bother watching this. Thanks for doing it for me. Your suffering does not go unappreciated 🤣
"I was looking up facts about wheat." LOL!!!!!
I wish I could say that was a bit. I was genuinely so bored during Rebel Moon, I got curious about wheat.
We haven't even gotten into the weeds folks....brace yourself. It's going to get much, MUCH worse
It's funny how they keep saying there is no good or evil in Star Wars, and yet when you get on Disney plus you will find the acolyte show under a category that says "Good vs Evil"
You know Hollywood has really forked things up when people are more excited about the prospect of seeing a mediocre show go from mediocre to truly bad in the next episode that they could ever be about the show itself.
Exactly, that is the most damning indictment of this show I can think of. I literally only want to see how bad they screw it up, because I have zero faith it gets better from here
"Disney and Kennedy know what their fanbase wants and they refuse to give it to them" is spot on. Though, I think that was a George Lucas problem after the original trilogy, as well. The Disney team, at this point, has taken an openly vengeful approach to the franchise's long time fans. There's no other motive--they aren't gaining new fans, they aren't making money, they are making "a point." It's pretty wild.
Most of the fan base, the pre-Disney fan base, is done with Star Wars. Forever. We watch the old movies, read the old books and comics, play the old games. We have given up on any new Star Wars. We just don't care anymore.
this, i given up long time ago on egames too, just recently i finished knights of the old republic 1 on switch and it was a blast to play, there where some moments that where even considered woke today, but not at that time, man, i hate this timeline.
You watch it so we, the customers, don’t have to. Why would I give my hard earned money to an openly racist and misandrist company?
Jeremy jahns said its like if cw made star wars
When he busted out the funeral attire, I lost it
"The only rewards of tolerance are treachery and betrayal" - An imperial guardsmen probably
Disney stock is down 27% from 5 years ago, keep the boycott going people, it works.
It doesn't work, though. They're still doing it. They're doubling down, in fact.
8:13 “wokeness is a philosophy of envy and revenge”… Hits the nail on the head mate! Well said
Might just be time to accept that the original trilogy was lightning in a bottle and that's never coming back. Anytime that I want to watch Star Wars i just put in a DVD.
Yep. I'm thinking about going back to the prequels for a re-watch, since it's been years. I wonder how they've aged.
I did need some scenes with Anakin, and WHOOO boy his line delivery would make a grade school play look like an Oscar winning performance
@@gregowen2022 the new stuff makes the Prequels look good only by the Prequel's virtue that they put in an earnest effort to break new technical ground and remain true to the values of the originals whereas the new stuff is keen to attack the spiritual centre of the originals. They're trying to do a bad job.
The prequels are horribly written, acted, and directed, but they have a coherent story. The sequel films are more competent in their acting and effects, but there's no story and it leaves you confused and upset. The Disney Plus shows are abominations with not only no story, but no characters, no world, no lesson, no reason to exist. They are spiteful propaganda aimed at blue-haired Tik Tok goblins.
As a gen x woman, I have never felt attacked by star wars fans until disney/kennedy.
"The D-Day invasion of Normandy Beach was morally gray!" - where we as a society are headed
I honestly thought that her being a Meknik would be black slang or some shit like that, I wasn't aware that it wasn't until someone else called her that
Leslie pretending she’s a star wars expert is hilarious
Visiting the aviation museum in Pensacola is certainly on my bucket list! That mug makes you that much cooler, Greg!
It’s really a cool place! They have cutout models of jet engines and 14 cylinder prop engines. Full sized planes. I had a great time
While you're in the area, check out Shalimar's Armament Museum. That place is pretty cool, too.
I was expecting the baddie to be Darth Bane, instead the only enemy to this show is Lucasfilm itself.
This show's deep cut comes right from Clerks? Deep.
It's highly ironic that woke showrunners want the attention and praise of people so bad yet they think everything you can possibly do is morally grey.
Any and all Star Wars shows made on Disney + aren't canon to me
the fact that they had a Jedi Master commit suicide they're just destroying Canon again and again it means fuck all now
3:15 that's literally the argument from the first Clerks movie they did as an absurd joke. Because who would actually think like that
In the spirit of Doctor Who, the Acolyte will retcon to explain how humans came to appear a long time ago a galaxy far, far away & became the dominant species.
Honestly what will it take to get Kennedy fired??? Will they completely tank the franchise first? It’s beyond ridiculous
I don't think she will be fired. I actually begin to wonder if she's actually really good at her job. Because it seems her job is not to keep Star Wars alive, but to liberate a massive piece of popular culture from it's traditionally toxic (ie, male) fanbase and appropriate it for marginalized groups. I don't think they want to participate in the fandom; I think they want to make it "theirs" instead of "ours". I imagine she's totally convinced she's righting grievous wrongs in the world. Kinda like Anakin bringing balance to the force.
Wokeism is a religion to them. I am just quietly sitting here watch Disney implode from within. I brought marshmallows. Things are getting toasty!
This is not bad marketing - this is social engineering. They don't care how many billions of dollars they lose as long as they plant their wicked little seeds in the minds of the next generation.
Kathleen, Steven needs another coffee