Glad it was helpful! Everyone gets taught the same thing. It was actually my friend Cedric from Chief Sweets Universe who urged me to make this video as he said lots of people asked him the same question, i thought it was pointless as in my head its the same as heating a small enclosure. Until i realised everyone was trying to get 3 different air temps ahaha
Great video! I was wondering how to heat up the bottom of the enclosure in a tall enclosure. This video answered my question. Now it’s like how did I not think of installing a second heat source like a deep heat under a shelf
A great topic that not many people talks about! May I ask some further reading materials for that the core temperature of an reptile is higher than the environment? That could be a good support for radiant heating, as conductive heating can only make an object reach the temperature of the heat source, not exceed it.
I love this and your channel ! Thanks for the information I’m currently curious to see how I will keep my ambient temps on a 6ft enclosure Top to bottom is very true ! But 8ft Long is a darn good spread of heat to radiate
I'm still confused. I am trying to get a snake but I'm lost on what your saying. I didn't think anyone was trying to say that there's an air temperature gradient, but rather just a general heat gradient from the heatsource, and then wherever in the tank is further from that heat source. As in, I assumed one side of the tank is hotter via whatever heat source you have, and then the other end obviously being cooler from being further away from the source (sort of like being outside, and as you walk, you notice sparse trees that you pass, until eventually there's nothing BUT trees. Thus creating a huge scale gradient. You can move in between this gradient of trees from the sun to dictate how cool you'd like to be) why is this not important? Are you saying a basking spot itself is all you need, and the temperature of the tank on either side can remain the same? How does this allow nuance in temperature preference minus what may be in their tank to hide or lay around?
I am new to this stuff and am trying to do lots of reading before getting a snake but there's lots of conflicting information, I just want to be prepared and understand. This also means though, that I migjt misinterpret things like this and be confused on what's being proposed
The thing is that the "warm side" is going to be on the side where you have your heat lamps, and while the air temperature will be roughly the same on either, the surface temperatures of everything there won't be. Surfaces hold heat better than air, so your basking spots under a lamp will always be hotter than the ambient temperature. A warm hide placed on the side of the enclosure with a heat lamp will heat up. So if the snake is in there, it'll still be much warmer than in a hide on the other side of the enclosure. Essentially, the heat gradient still exists. Just... on surfaces, not in the air. This is also why even if it's not factually true that a thermometer on the warm sode of the enclosure is measuring the ambient temperature there, it has still worked for so many people. Sure, the thermometer is heated more in the light, but so is your snake!
@@evi6629 yeah but I assumed EVERYONE has been saying that? I've never heard the "heat gradient" concept being explained as an air thing VS a surface temperature thing.
So essentially, due to hot air rising and it being cooler on the bottom of and enclosure, one can use a slightly taller enclosure for their bearded dragon and not have to stick to 4x2x2 dimensions? Like say I wanted to do a 5 foot by 2 foot by 3 foot high? Some say that would be too tall and temps will not be correct.
While the experiment of "visible light on a thermometer" demonstrates that the readings are influenced by radiation, it doesn't necessarily disprove the presence of a horizontal thermal gradient. A better experiment for the latter might be to use a heat mat (it's not a good heat source for reptiles, but it's good for this experiment as it allows heat convection and heat conduction to be the dominant methods of heat transfer, with minimal radiation). Place the heat mat on one side of an enclosure, along with multiple probes at different places to measure the air temperatures at a height of ca. 2 ~ 5 cm above the ground (for lizards) or even lower (for snakes), and read the temperature distribution after 30 min. I imagine that there won't be huge differences like 25 vs 35 C, but I'm not sure about lacking meaningful difference between the two areas.
@@Kaikent3 you can thaw out a mouse and leave it in the room, you can pour flour down around doorways so you can see if the line gets broken in the night, and of course pull the house apart looking for it. Check things that produce heat like the backs of refrigerators etc, and don’t forget to look up high. Hope you find it ❤️
Oh my gosh!! Thank you for the valuable info!! I had no idea that all the info on this that I've been taught over the last 3 years has been so wrong
Glad it was helpful! Everyone gets taught the same thing. It was actually my friend Cedric from Chief Sweets Universe who urged me to make this video as he said lots of people asked him the same question, i thought it was pointless as in my head its the same as heating a small enclosure. Until i realised everyone was trying to get 3 different air temps ahaha
oh man, cant wait for the "expert" ball python and bearded dragon owners on reddit to hear about the air temp gradient
@@Wtfzipcode haha same old same old 😂
Great video! I was wondering how to heat up the bottom of the enclosure in a tall enclosure. This video answered my question. Now it’s like how did I not think of installing a second heat source like a deep heat under a shelf
Haha glad I could help!
A great topic that not many people talks about!
May I ask some further reading materials for that the core temperature of an reptile is higher than the environment? That could be a good support for radiant heating, as conductive heating can only make an object reach the temperature of the heat source, not exceed it.
Maders reptile and amphibian vet textbook would be a good place
Excellent video!!!
@@dacisky thank you!
I didn’t know this, but it honestly seems so simple and makes total sense.
Good one Liam
Thanks Paul!
I love this and your channel !
Thanks for the information
I’m currently curious to see how I will keep my ambient temps on a 6ft enclosure
Top to bottom is very true !
But 8ft Long is a darn good spread of heat to radiate
Well mine are 7ft if that’s any reassurance. My ambient temperature is great
Wiw, i love those heaters!
Can they be fitted inside a 4x2x2... Was thinking about for my green tree, and also in time for my boa and s/d retic.
@@helenhughes1815 they can, if one does not overheat the enclosure
Where do you put a ceramic heater bulb on beardies enclosure?
I'm still confused. I am trying to get a snake but I'm lost on what your saying. I didn't think anyone was trying to say that there's an air temperature gradient, but rather just a general heat gradient from the heatsource, and then wherever in the tank is further from that heat source. As in, I assumed one side of the tank is hotter via whatever heat source you have, and then the other end obviously being cooler from being further away from the source (sort of like being outside, and as you walk, you notice sparse trees that you pass, until eventually there's nothing BUT trees. Thus creating a huge scale gradient. You can move in between this gradient of trees from the sun to dictate how cool you'd like to be) why is this not important? Are you saying a basking spot itself is all you need, and the temperature of the tank on either side can remain the same? How does this allow nuance in temperature preference minus what may be in their tank to hide or lay around?
I am new to this stuff and am trying to do lots of reading before getting a snake but there's lots of conflicting information, I just want to be prepared and understand. This also means though, that I migjt misinterpret things like this and be confused on what's being proposed
The thing is that the "warm side" is going to be on the side where you have your heat lamps, and while the air temperature will be roughly the same on either, the surface temperatures of everything there won't be. Surfaces hold heat better than air, so your basking spots under a lamp will always be hotter than the ambient temperature. A warm hide placed on the side of the enclosure with a heat lamp will heat up. So if the snake is in there, it'll still be much warmer than in a hide on the other side of the enclosure.
Essentially, the heat gradient still exists. Just... on surfaces, not in the air.
This is also why even if it's not factually true that a thermometer on the warm sode of the enclosure is measuring the ambient temperature there, it has still worked for so many people. Sure, the thermometer is heated more in the light, but so is your snake!
@@evi6629 yeah but I assumed EVERYONE has been saying that? I've never heard the "heat gradient" concept being explained as an air thing VS a surface temperature thing.
So essentially, due to hot air rising and it being cooler on the bottom of and enclosure, one can use a slightly taller enclosure for their bearded dragon and not have to stick to 4x2x2 dimensions? Like say I wanted to do a 5 foot by 2 foot by 3 foot high? Some say that would be too tall and temps will not be correct.
While the experiment of "visible light on a thermometer" demonstrates that the readings are influenced by radiation, it doesn't necessarily disprove the presence of a horizontal thermal gradient. A better experiment for the latter might be to use a heat mat (it's not a good heat source for reptiles, but it's good for this experiment as it allows heat convection and heat conduction to be the dominant methods of heat transfer, with minimal radiation). Place the heat mat on one side of an enclosure, along with multiple probes at different places to measure the air temperatures at a height of ca. 2 ~ 5 cm above the ground (for lizards) or even lower (for snakes), and read the temperature distribution after 30 min. I imagine that there won't be huge differences like 25 vs 35 C, but I'm not sure about lacking meaningful difference between the two areas.
@@voldythecorn2688 there will be a difference of a degree or so, which is as much variation you see between two thermometers of the same brand.
Anytips for finding an escaped baby ball python because i feel like am never gonna find mine again 😢
@@Kaikent3 you can thaw out a mouse and leave it in the room, you can pour flour down around doorways so you can see if the line gets broken in the night, and of course pull the house apart looking for it.
Check things that produce heat like the backs of refrigerators etc, and don’t forget to look up high. Hope you find it ❤️
I'm so sorry your ball python went missing, I wish you luck and hope it turns up!