‘Miss Fat & Beautiful' at the British Fat Lady Contest (1960s) | Vintage Fashions

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  • @kindy_91
    @kindy_91 8 лет назад +91

    The things people were able to say :D
    "Britain's most glamorous fatty"

  • @caramelrhapsodyjesseslife
    @caramelrhapsodyjesseslife 9 лет назад +36

    I'm not overweight and I love all of those looks! Each of those tailored outfits had such clean lines. Fabulous!

  • @chrisg4584
    @chrisg4584 10 лет назад +51

    Those women weren't even all that big by today's standards, but back then people were alot smaller, & sizes were cut alot smaller-like when you watch old episodes of 'I Love Lucy' it seems ridiculous when they'd make fun of Ethel for supposedly being fat, which she really wasn't.

    • @SmallFaerie
      @SmallFaerie 9 лет назад +10

      Fat shaming looks pretty much the same today as it did then - let's not kid ourselves about that. People go on and on about their weird fixation with the enormous threat obesity is supposedly becoming while pretty much every single woman and most men have some degree of eating disorders by now. All the while most people that fall within the norm of "fat" aren't bigger than the ones in this video.
      Not to mention that we have been brain washed by the hysteria around fat to the extent that we seem utterly incapable of actually accepting scientific results which don't match our preconceptions about weight, fat, food and health.

    • @angr3819
      @angr3819 Год назад

      @@SmallFaerie because being obese and being unhealthy plus increases risks of heart attacks aren't related 🤔😒

  • @moominmay
    @moominmay 7 лет назад +11

    Foundation garments - such polite phrasing back in the day lol

  • @VintageFashions
    @VintageFashions  12 лет назад +15

    !! It's from 1962. If you have a spare moment please do visit our film archive online - British Pathe - and search for "Miss Fat and Beautiful". We're kind of an authority on these things too! Thanks for watching.

  • @LifeIs100Percent
    @LifeIs100Percent 13 лет назад +10

    This is great.
    I wish they still had this going on for all ages.

  • @yasminx16
    @yasminx16 10 лет назад +105

    Women were self aware in a different, much more healthier way back in the 60s. Now our self-awareness is manipulated unscrupulously by a fashion industry that does not seem to want to celebrate femininity, but instead insists on either pushing unattainable androgyny or an equally unrealistic hyper-sexualised mode of femininity as the "ideal". These women seem happy and they look lovely- there is nothing freakish about this contest. I would rather identify with being "plump and lovely" than a fetishized "BBW".

    • @h0rriphic
      @h0rriphic 3 года назад +5

      Gosh, this comment is six years old, but it speaks perfectly to what’s going on at the moment...

    • @angr3819
      @angr3819 Год назад

      @@h0rriphic Most younger men and women were slim then
      Quite a lot of middle aged and elderly people were too. Do you ever look at the men who model mens fashion? Do the designers cater for the overweight to utterly obese? No. Do you think that is sexist and unfair? Be truthful. You have never given it a thought. It's all about women, isn't it?!
      Btw, I am a woman albeit and elderly one who has disabilities and is a little out of shape now.

  • @TiffanyHallmark
    @TiffanyHallmark 8 лет назад +6

    I am not sure about the use of the term "fatty", but I don't think it is necessary to hide the past. By having this film available, we can hope to learn from the past. They were lovely ladies all.

  • @elleh3495
    @elleh3495 4 года назад +8

    What is fascinating in 2020 is I shop in alot of vintage stores. The actual sizes of the clothes were smaller. I cannot fit into a 1950-60's size 10, but can fit into a modern size 10. That's really messed up about the fashion industry. At least with men's clothing the size is the actual measurement instead of a feel-good sales tactic. That means the women back then were even smaller than we think--even the "fatties".

    • @grannydearest9129
      @grannydearest9129 2 года назад +1

      Vanity sizing started in the 70s after standardized sizes fell out of favor. After that the sizing became wildly inconsistent per store. 🙄 (though the standardized sizing wasn't all good)

    • @kaylajames9334
      @kaylajames9334 2 года назад

      So what size would a vintage size 10 be today? A US size 6?

    • @angr3819
      @angr3819 Год назад

      @@grannydearest9129 A lot of the variations in size was and still is due to the cutting machines.
      Large batches of cloth are cut by a machine which comes down. The cloth at the top comes out as a different size to the cloth at the bottom.

    • @dawnelder9046
      @dawnelder9046 Год назад

      Back in the late 70s I went to buy a pattern for the new high waisted pants. Asked for a size 12 which matched my hip size. I had used size 12 patterns forever at that point. Knew I would half to sew the waist in. 23 inches back then.
      The lady told me to buy the 10. She was right. It worked perfect.
      If I can find an old pattern from before that time, if it matches my measurements now, it will fit with very few adjustments. But if I buy a new pattern based on my measurements I am swimming in it.
      And I have sewn thing for other people with the same results. Modern You Tube sewers are always doing mock up. It is because modern pattern sizing is useless.
      I also actually were a smaller size now at 65, than I did at 20. Yet, I am quite a bit larger. There isn't a hope I could put my wedding dress on.
      Men's clothing is no longer safe either. I always bought my husband's pants. Then suddenly they were too big. The waist on men's pants can be up to 6 inches bigger than stated. Now I make him come with me and try them on.

  • @stephenguppy7882
    @stephenguppy7882 5 месяцев назад

    Crikey! Those drawers at 0:42 ! We used to call them Apple Catchers! 🤣🤣

  • @sangeliastorck8283
    @sangeliastorck8283 10 лет назад +61

    The one nice thing here. Is that there is NO fat shaming like there is today. Back then, folks recognized the fact that we didn't come in two sizes, pencil thin and obese.
    Also what is different is how they carry themselves. As in they took pride and care in their looks.

    • @1theatrechick
      @1theatrechick 10 лет назад +28

      There wasn't? Did you hear the guy suppress a giggle at about 0:18? And what about the old maxim that a woman's waist size in inches should never be larger than her age?

    • @funnycreature2331
      @funnycreature2331 7 лет назад +18

      Are you really praising the fucking 1950's for it's tolerance?

    • @theemmyfandom
      @theemmyfandom 6 лет назад +3

      Victoria Britannica *60's

    • @marywebb9127
      @marywebb9127 5 лет назад +4

      @@funnycreature2331 a little triggered aren't we 😅😂🤣

  • @lenamh
    @lenamh 11 лет назад +9

    "Secret of these figures? Eat what you like and a lots of it!" ;-))) Love this
    ;-)

  • @yaelrar.4460
    @yaelrar.4460 5 лет назад +6

    Good grief! Can you give these women a break!
    They probably gave birth to several children.
    They didn't have gyms and holistic markets and Nutisystem and Weight Watchers back then.
    They seem normal to me. If they are honest and moral, then they deserve respect.
    I don't care what their appearances are like.

  • @bettybutton8005
    @bettybutton8005 10 лет назад +15

    In answer to your "discussion" question the past has a value and we must treasure it - yes, things change of course, but not always for the better and either way we must look to days gone by as important and valid. I do not think the "PC" rules we observe today are always useful. where's common sense? My heart is set in the past and I'm much happier for it - BB xx

  • @howler9503
    @howler9503 3 года назад +1

    The secret to these figures? "Eat what you like and LOTS OF IT!" 😂😂😂

  • @IdahoTatters
    @IdahoTatters 12 лет назад +2

    Omg can't hold this contest today.

  • @fitnessgal1979
    @fitnessgal1979 11 лет назад +8

    I like how they call the winner fat wow she is prob a size 12/16 in todays standards not fat at all!

  • @GEhotpants101
    @GEhotpants101 8 лет назад +9

    0:48
    I thought her dress was very nice here, actually.

  • @DanJamesJames
    @DanJamesJames 7 лет назад +7

    Who on earth has had the audacity and presumption to add a comment above, over the video, asking whether videos like this should be suppressed for being non-PC? Can the person who did it not realise the potential consequences of banning content, comment and opinion which do not conform with present-day fashion and trends? I suggest instead that the comment itself be removed. There is no debate here. If you don't like it, then don't watch it. But don't even contemplate the idea of censoring the past.

    • @crystalsplace7163
      @crystalsplace7163 4 года назад

      Dan James No one said anything about being PC.

    • @danjames1093
      @danjames1093 4 года назад +1

      @@crystalsplace7163 the comment to which I was referring when I posted two years ago now appears to have been removed.

  • @missmirusrobinson6913
    @missmirusrobinson6913 4 года назад +2

    Dont forget your foundation garments 🤣

  • @bunnybustard5526
    @bunnybustard5526 10 лет назад +4

    I think the title of the competition is totally un- PC but the idea is cool.

  • @2write2sing2dance
    @2write2sing2dance 10 лет назад +13

    The winner looks curvy to me, not fat. It's interesting the words they use then in comparison to now, though. "Fatty" is not a really nice way to describe someone who is plus-sized, and I'm not sure how people who who bigger feel about being called 'fat.' I think some people are OK with it and some people are not.

  • @Rottenbottomrob
    @Rottenbottomrob 10 лет назад +15

    Healthier in every way to catwalks now. Honest, proud and real.

  • @rosenyne
    @rosenyne 6 лет назад +7

    I think what most people are missing in all the comments on here is the historical context. In the 40's during WWII Britain suffered terribly from bombing raids. There was food rationing in the UK and the rest of Europe that was way more intense than in the United States. Even after the war was over, rationing continued and it took a while for Britain to get back on its feet. Most people were thin due to hunger until the economic upswing of the late 50's and early 60's. Sure, a nipped in waist was preferred but curves came back in fashion in the 50's because it showed you were healthy, prosperous, or never experienced the horrors of war. One of the most famous icons of the time, Audrey Hepburn, nearly starved to death in Holland during WWII and suffered from anemia and other complications from malnutrition for the rest of her life. People started to put on unhealthy weight after the war because they still could not afford quality food, and around that time, companies started to market cheap products with lots of preservatives. The British diet, much like the American diet, trended towards high carbs, high sodium, fatty and sugary foods of convenience that did not really include a lot of fresh veggies or lean meats. No one really understood about the link between high cholesterol and diet, and did not even take high cholesterol seriously until the 70's.

    • @angr3819
      @angr3819 Год назад

      Only true to an extent.
      People then and before generally had far better figures, man and women, because they didn't eat much processed food except for flour in breads and pastry. They also walked a lot more and generally exercised. They would let their heavy Sunday dinner settle for half an hour or an hour so as to not cause ulcers, then go for a walk for half a mile to a mile. They would take their children outside in the garden it park and play with them, running around playing tag, skipping, kicking or batting a ball. Playgrounds and parks were usually busy on weekend afternoons.

  • @Osaka0ya
    @Osaka0ya 13 лет назад +11

    "a comfortable woman... hits in the middle of her fourties, and all that..."
    fat AND age acceptance?! this is awesome!!

    • @Elizabeth42069
      @Elizabeth42069 3 месяца назад

      he said "hips in the mid 40s" which hey that is still great, i mean. that said, women on the whole have stopped caring about their appearance, fat or thin, and its sad.

  • @MJW238
    @MJW238 10 лет назад +39

    I love how these women are consider fat. They certainly are, but it's nothing compared to what you see today.

  • @bite_my_shiney_metal_kat4058
    @bite_my_shiney_metal_kat4058 7 лет назад +1

    I think it is very important to keep aware of the past and not hide it.

  • @crueltyfreecolorist1025
    @crueltyfreecolorist1025 9 лет назад +13

    What...some of the women on the catwalk weren't fat. Guess just standards I guess..
    I love how they refer them as "plump" instead of "fat".

    • @marywebb9127
      @marywebb9127 5 лет назад +2

      They are overweight, who are you comparing them to? Tess Holliday

  • @rosetigress
    @rosetigress 11 лет назад +3

    There's no quick way to get rid of fat safely except through eating healthier, exercise, and more importantly, time!

  • @BradleyRubin
    @BradleyRubin 13 лет назад +4

    "Eat what you like and lots of it"... sounds like quite the secret!

  • @crueltyfreecolorist1025
    @crueltyfreecolorist1025 9 лет назад +4

    Oh never mind the guy said fatty at the end...

  • @angelaraines6130
    @angelaraines6130 9 лет назад +16

    Can you image if they used the term fat today in a campaign like this.( lawyers start you engines) This also shows we've been getting fatter for years.

  • @horationelson57
    @horationelson57 12 лет назад +3

    If I could personify political correctness, I'd kill it! Fascinating video of the delightful past, and thank you for sharing

  • @fatsue4289
    @fatsue4289 Год назад +1

    I got fat after leaving school and starting drinking, and I'm proud of my wide girth. And my boyfriend thinks it's great 😊❤

  • @sweetsugarpumpkin
    @sweetsugarpumpkin 11 лет назад +3

    was so shocked when he said "britains most glamorous fattie" was calling someone fat less offensive back then?

    • @thunderbird1921
      @thunderbird1921 2 года назад

      It feels like a joke contest. But yes, although ultimately depending on the person, many folks were less offended back then (some ladies in 50s stuff are even seen erupting into genuine laughter at jokes about women being unpredictable and other things). A different era indeed.

  • @badchippo
    @badchippo 12 лет назад +1

    LMAO... Don't forget those foundation garments!

  • @shortyvee1992
    @shortyvee1992 10 лет назад +2

    Loove it!!! :D

  • @jadasesen
    @jadasesen 13 лет назад +1

    It is important not to hide the past. That's how we learn from our mistakes.

  • @rebeccalloyd2256
    @rebeccalloyd2256 7 лет назад +2

    Absolutely don't hide it, it's how men thought then, and it's no different now, except they aren't allowed to voice it.

  • @simonwilliams3564
    @simonwilliams3564 3 года назад +3

    Those bloomers were enormous!!!you could use them as an alternative to a hot air balloon hahaha

    • @angr3819
      @angr3819 Год назад

      We used to call outsize ladies clothes 'tents'.

  • @janesmith8453
    @janesmith8453 9 лет назад +7

    Normal size by today's standards! It's the hair and clothes that are so aging and frumpy and not the proportions of the women.Great film,we need more of same and please forget this PC crap because there's always somebody who will be offended by something.

    • @fredrickaappletree3402
      @fredrickaappletree3402 7 лет назад +2

      Jane Smith.....don't think the clothes or hair are particularly ageing it's what you get used to.

  • @theweirdofengland
    @theweirdofengland 6 лет назад +3

    "A woman can still be attractive long after any man has taken her on his knee". Lost it.

    • @SvenssonIwas
      @SvenssonIwas 4 года назад +1

      And the model turned around in shock - like "what did you just say?" 😁

  • @xydoit
    @xydoit 11 лет назад +2

    The concept of fat changed through the years dramatically

  • @sagitta98
    @sagitta98 3 года назад +2

    In my generation, plump and lovely is called thicc.

  • @lindaquinlan2106
    @lindaquinlan2106 10 лет назад +7

    Material like this should be preserved for posterity and to remind us how free and easy things were before the PC Nazis took over.

    • @SmallFaerie
      @SmallFaerie 9 лет назад +5

      Yes, things were so free and easy when you could insult everyone without being afraid that some "PC Nazi" would inform you of the harm your unkind words might actually be doing.
      As it so happens though, historic times haven't really been more of a haven for people who just want to blabber without consideration than modern times are. The only difference really is what exactly has been considered correct or incorrect.
      Also, the term "PC Nazi" is beyond ridiculous. But maybe your understanding of the second world war and the role the nazis played in it is as warped and limited as your general understanding of history seems to be. You see, the nazis first political goal wasn't really about tolerance and inclusion - why don't you read up on it instead of spewing idiotic comments around you.
      Oh, I hope all those "PC Nazis" who have apparently "taken over" won't be visiting me now that I have exercised some of that "free and easy" living (usually known as being rude and insulting) you seem to yearn for.

  • @elleh3495
    @elleh3495 4 года назад +1

    oh my god🤯...what did i just watch.

  • @TamaraSheeler
    @TamaraSheeler 13 лет назад +2

    those who say that back then it was about being thin and healthy...its not true. My grandma got her very bad eating habits from back then...like starving yourself. Many of the movies stars also starved themselves....look it up.

  • @Kafka04
    @Kafka04 13 лет назад +1

    foundation garments, lol!

  • @blackisback74
    @blackisback74 5 лет назад +1

    We need some more fetty competitions nowadays

  • @mdem64
    @mdem64 6 лет назад +1

    Comfortable

  • @daffyvader
    @daffyvader 9 лет назад +10

    these women are skinny compared to the average uk woman in 2015

  • @ez4me2sa
    @ez4me2sa 5 лет назад +1

    Those women would be considered thin today..

  • @MrGmc750
    @MrGmc750 10 лет назад +5

    What's this...some type of weird Susan Boyle tribute gathering thing?

  • @itislulunobody
    @itislulunobody 12 лет назад +2

    I don't see any difference respect to the way things are now.
    Women who aren't skinny and bonnie are considered fat just like these ladies in the contest here. They weren't fat at all. If you google 'chubby' you'll get a bunch of ladies who are curvy but not fat.
    It's disgusting the way this is allowed and encouraged.

  • @Patrick3183
    @Patrick3183 11 лет назад +1

    They wouldn't BELIEVE how women look now. 500lb heifers who NEVER put down a cheeseburger.

  • @mickeybee
    @mickeybee 12 лет назад +1

    @ApotheNAILium I think the judges probably just picked the least fat person there was lol.

  • @missmirusrobinson6913
    @missmirusrobinson6913 4 года назад

    Woah anyone in 2020 and in quarantine?

  • @lena3806
    @lena3806 6 лет назад +2

    Their so cute 😍😍

  • @brikered
    @brikered 12 лет назад +1

    Oh gosh, I wouldn't call them fat at all. Well, perhaps that one lady in the store at the start of the video, but the runway ones are just normal/average size.

  • @colleenfrances
    @colleenfrances 13 лет назад +1

    Plump people are beautiful! But all sizes should be respected!

  • @Legoless
    @Legoless 13 лет назад +2

    "most glamorous fatty" lmao

  • @fr1x
    @fr1x 2 года назад

    "britain's most glamourous fatty" lmao this would never fly today

  • @SerpentinaSolis
    @SerpentinaSolis 11 лет назад +2

    All women are beautiful! Be it a gal who can fit into kid's clothes or one who needs to have clothes custom made. All women deserve to be beautiful and respected!
    This video is cute!

  • @loribollinger2457
    @loribollinger2457 3 года назад

    Sad part is how insulting they spoke about women at that time and it was accepted.These women aren’t even remotely overweight people today are much larger in height etc.

  • @kattemma
    @kattemma 11 лет назад +1

    Half of those contestants weren't even fat...

  • @MsMissSunday
    @MsMissSunday 13 лет назад +1

    @BubbleFizz true, there's a lot of (negative) attention because of anorexia and all, but still if you just look at normal people, by that i don't mean, like, the fashion business or anything, you still see hating towards fat or just bigger people.

  • @gryl7471
    @gryl7471 11 лет назад

    I am not fat,but surely not svelte,either. I think it's a tad offensive. But really people, it's true about fashion for bigger ladies(and gents,I suppose) being ignored until say the 90's. I was slender with huge breasts and the only bras I could find were tan granny bras. Not exactly sexy. I appreciate the fact that the people who put on this show realized we ladies love to look good. And made the attempt to make fashion accessible for all of us lovelies!

  • @donnalethal
    @donnalethal 12 лет назад +1

    "Eat what you like!"

  • @TamaraSheeler
    @TamaraSheeler 13 лет назад +1

    hahaha!

  • @bradleasays
    @bradleasays 11 лет назад +1

    Why would treating fat women as though they deserve to feel beautiful, and don't have to change who they are be considered "not PC", exactly?

  • @nickharris9761
    @nickharris9761 10 лет назад +4

    Shouldnt there be a contest : Miss Type 2 Diabetes

  • @Lyca31
    @Lyca31 6 лет назад +2

    Eat what you like and lots of it XD

    • @SvenssonIwas
      @SvenssonIwas 4 года назад

      Then the woman turns around and grins as if to say "Hooray!" 😝

  • @bradleasays
    @bradleasays 11 лет назад +1

    Wow, you feel exactly the way society has conditioned you to feel. How interesting.

  • @vkacademy
    @vkacademy 13 лет назад +2

    @Osaka0ya He said "Hips in the middle forties." Talking about inches.

  • @Ann65.
    @Ann65. Год назад

    Good Lord. The women are paraded like heifers at a farmer’s market.
    Mind you, weren’t they absolutely immaculately turned out! Smart, sophisticated and very approachable.
    I’m sure that the women enjoyed wearing the beautiful fashions and hope they got to at least keep the clothes they modelled so beautifully. The Gentlemen in those days had it made, didn’t they .
    Those families were possibly the last generation to know what ‘Home, Hearth & Family’ really equalled, which was contentment and safety in a truly loving, well kept Haven. Quite unlike much of what is going on nowadays.
    I do reaction videos about a woman who weighs about 450lbs. Mainly because of her bad behaviour and the fact that she calls herself an “influencer”. The fact is that she does influence vulnerable and suggestible young people who may feel that they too may follow such a “career path”.

  • @lillova314
    @lillova314 13 лет назад +1

    shape issues then.... shape issues now
    things wont ever change

  • @MrMLD1972
    @MrMLD1972 5 лет назад +1

    💝

  • @cimiez1
    @cimiez1 7 лет назад +2

    i love the women thins

  • @IWouldCallMeAlina
    @IWouldCallMeAlina 13 лет назад +1

    they should see some of the "big" people nowadays...

  • @xydoit
    @xydoit 11 лет назад +2

    Xl is big then

  • @Hypohair
    @Hypohair 12 лет назад +1

    they look great, and even in PC UK people are still allowed to insult big people and often do; perceiving they eat loads (whos business that is anyway?). A lot of those ladies would be menopausal, often plays havoc with metabolism. Big people I think are the last target for bigots that don't want to be taken to court.
    PC is stupid and doesn't work anyway. They were 'lighter' days.

  • @BubbleFizz
    @BubbleFizz 13 лет назад +1

    @MsMissSunday Actually back then it was all about being thin and healthy, as they said in the video, fashion houses were JUST waking up to the fact that clothes needed to be made for bigger women. As a novelty they decided to have this pageant. Nowadays there is a lot of hate and disgust towards thin people, saying that it's unhealthy and even media outlets have been "skinny bashing".

  • @MrLAURA9797
    @MrLAURA9797 13 лет назад

    Lmfao!! miss fat and beautifull id win dat contest !! ;D

  • @GAYforUNICORNS
    @GAYforUNICORNS 12 лет назад +1

    lol the secert of these figures is eat what u ulike and lots of it

  • @edanielleh
    @edanielleh 11 лет назад +1

    beauty is subjective. i think fat is not pretty at all. But that is the way I feel

  • @miraggg
    @miraggg 12 лет назад +1

    i love how politically incorrect they were! haha
    "fat and beautiful" would not cut it these days for a competition name

  • @BMuffinG
    @BMuffinG 12 лет назад

    geez those pants look huge 0:40

  • @cosmokramer1987
    @cosmokramer1987 Год назад

    The 1960s version of fat is todays thicc.

  • @MsMissSunday
    @MsMissSunday 13 лет назад +1

    I think this is great. nowadays it's all about being thin.

  • @misterbogs
    @misterbogs 13 лет назад

    Susan Boyle anyone?

  • @AnjelRocker
    @AnjelRocker 13 лет назад

    They aren't all that big...

  • @liboom5
    @liboom5 12 лет назад +1

    @Osaka0ya *hips, but still, age acceptance too yay

  • @MsFullheart
    @MsFullheart 11 лет назад +1

    oh yes theyre so huge what blimps! Theyre average sized!

  • @itsalwayshalloweenexceptwh5118
    @itsalwayshalloweenexceptwh5118 7 лет назад +1

    I thought this video was really fun.
    And to those who say these women weren't fat...... well...these women are all overweight in varying degrees and one of the meanings of fat is overweight. So yes, these women are fat.

  • @Fush1234
    @Fush1234 3 года назад

    I rekon the men must have been blind

  • @jjeanniton
    @jjeanniton 6 лет назад +1

    The true litmus text of sexism is whether or not the person practicing the discrimination believes in the biological and essential superiority of the male sex to the female sex. This essential superiority is BOUND to have some absurd consequences.
    "’Tis true, thro’ Want of Learning, and of that Superior Genius which Men as men lay claim to, she was ignorant of the Natural Inferiority of our Sex, which our Masters lay down as a Self-Evident and Fundamental Truth. She was nothing in the Reason of Things, to make this either a Principle or a Conclusion, but much to the contrary; it being Sedition at least, if not Treason to assert it in the Reign. For if by the Natural Superiority of their Sex, they mean that every Man is by Nature superior to every Woman, which is the obvious meaning, and that which must be stuck to if they would speak Sense, it wou’d be a Sin in any Woman to have Dominion over any Man, and the greatest Queen ought not to command but to obey her Footman, because no Municipal Laws can supersede or change the Law of Nature; so that if the Dominion of the Men be such, the Salique Law, as unjust as English Men have ever thought it, ought to take place [iv] over all the Earth, and the most glorious Reigns in the English, Danish, Castilian, and other Annals, were wicked Violations of the Law of Nature!" - Mary Astell, 1711.

    • @angr3819
      @angr3819 Год назад +1

      Tell you what. You work inside sewers for a year as men do. Also consider who worked out the best mixes for bricks and cement, and that firing them and clay made them useful.
      As an elderly woman I know that women wouldn't have thought of rubbing two sticks together to make fire. Men built this world and I am very grateful they have carried us along simply because we were pretty when young and could give them babies. We women would be living in caves without clever men. Anything that any woman (I mean born as a female) has developed has only come off things men had actually invented from scratch. That is a fact. Stop being brainwashed and give men their due respect instead of always pulling them down. No wonder many of them have given up trying to do wonderful things, and have given up on women.

  • @barbaracerra
    @barbaracerra 13 лет назад

    hmm those girls are svelte