Thanks for the tier list, always interesting to see! I just started cata playing rogue with a friend playing hpala - Can these two classes work in any combination with a 3rd or maybe in 2s?
Hozito, I love your videos and have been following you for a while now! :) Question: When you talk about triple DPS being op, do you mean any three DPS? Or just the "official" triple DPS team?
@@Hozitojones That's helpful, thank you! (And makes me feel better about me and my friends not doing super great with our three DPS lol feral, udk, and ret)
@@BigTeenyyea that comp doesn’t have enough CC to make it broken. And if your feral gets trained you lose pretty much all the CC in your team. Ret/rogue/Hunter is so OP cause they can literally CC 2 dps while they one shot the healer. On top of that they have smoke bomb which makes everything much harder to play against.
@@andrecardoso6941 That is really helpful insight, thank you!! We thought we might be OK playing an off meta comp, but pretty much everyone we've come up against has been one of the teams Hozito reviewed haha
1:45 I think frost deal less damage comparatively than fire when the mage is being trained, but in RMP it really doesn't matter since the mages meaningful damage is being done during setups. My point is, I think RMP is the best comp for frost mage, it may or may not be better with fire, but thats not my point
Liking cata so far and your videos. Just wondering what comp you would suggest as someone who is trying to get better at arena as a warlock or ret pala. Games seem so fast paced and sometimes it's difficult to figure out what you could do better and learn.
hey hozi, love your videos, what u think about sp/dk/rshammn, or change the dk for a ret? I know its not high tier comp, but just wanna play it with friends i have xD
Ret rogue right ? I haven’t seen anyone qin it besides 2s I played it back in tbc lmao I think rshaman fits this comp better or even disc i feel like u gotta play super aggro so priest fear on goes might be nice and r shaman could be more consistent for longer games
I know that war and disc arent that good compared to other comps in 2s, but do you think, difficulty wise is it way more difficult than for example priest/rogue or priest/mage to achieve 2k+ ?
Hey. I've played some rps with some friends a few days ago and its honestly not that bad. Its certainly not a S tier comp, but if played good it can most definitely be close to A tier easily.
@@johnlappa5447 i have aswell, we are fairly experienced players and do a decent job vs most comps but it just feels like going disc and finding a mage would be insta rating. i wanna know whether it does get stronger late seasons or if its still gonna be one or two tiers below other comps, in which case i would probably just play rmp
@@TheWowzz I haven't played OG Cata so I wouldn't know how much better the comp gets later on, but I do know spriest as a spec gets better. Therefore I would assume the comp also gets better naturally as we progress into later phases/seasons. Currently the main downside to playing spriests (from my observation) is that their mana runs out quick in longer games than usual and its not a sustainable support class because of that reason only. Outside of that, it actually does some good damage, granted you aren't being completely shut down from start to finish.
I think it has potential same as sp dk but sp dk is more like set up based comp with grip goes with the lock I feel like u can have insane spread pressure but issue that I c is that lock is gonna be dying ezly since dk don’t have enough peels
My Druid is about to hit 85. I wa gonna go boomkin because it’s my main on retail, and it’s incredibly fun in bgs, but now I’m thinking feral for arena 😱 boomy is still awesome in arena? Just need peels i guess.
@@Hozitojones but they have made pvp changes to classic! dont lose hope! like being abble to do crossrealm party to play with other people, there are no more teams and you can play with anyone, gladiator titles and rewards only for 3s, the increased weekly conquest cap of 4k points and that you can catch up with any Alt character! PvP is better than ever, please pray so we can get solo Q! that would be awesome dudee, literally a dream come true for all of us Cataclysm PvP fans! :D
@@miguelfalcao20 I mean they are a profesional team that have been competing together since ages ladder for a profesional team is a joke is not realistic to say just because one team is number one the comp is the best they can get r1 ladder as any comp if they want also yeah I play any comp with any people to ask me to q with if I only played one comp with the same people all the time I would def be up there no matter what with insane win ratio
@@Hozitojones 1) just because a team swapped team comp to better deal with something doesn’t mean the comp isn’t still S. Tier. 2) there is more than one vangaurds comp in the top hundred. It’s just the most well known example to point out. I think vanguard deserves S tier. 3) I hole heartedly respect your opinion and appreciate the content. Your video said to comment things we disagreed with. 4) The perfect parallel here to a team that you have in S tier is RMP Vs Jungle. It’s a team that you can win against but they are naturally going to be difficult games. Vanguards can beat wizards. But some wizard comps will naturally prove difficult. Again thank you for the content. I enjoyed the video and subbed.
thank you for waiting for playing it. all the one month before based on "i was there" opinions got old quick. i appreciate you
Thanks for the tier list, always interesting to see! I just started cata playing rogue with a friend playing hpala - Can these two classes work in any combination with a 3rd or maybe in 2s?
Fire mage rogue holy pala is actually pretty decent
Hozito, I love your videos and have been following you for a while now! :) Question: When you talk about triple DPS being op, do you mean any three DPS? Or just the "official" triple DPS team?
The ret version for triple dps is the strongest don’t think any triple dps is op just the two I mentioned imo
@@Hozitojones That's helpful, thank you! (And makes me feel better about me and my friends not doing super great with our three DPS lol feral, udk, and ret)
@@BigTeenyyea that comp doesn’t have enough CC to make it broken. And if your feral gets trained you lose pretty much all the CC in your team. Ret/rogue/Hunter is so OP cause they can literally CC 2 dps while they one shot the healer. On top of that they have smoke bomb which makes everything much harder to play against.
@@andrecardoso6941 That is really helpful insight, thank you!! We thought we might be OK playing an off meta comp, but pretty much everyone we've come up against has been one of the teams Hozito reviewed haha
1:45 I think frost deal less damage comparatively than fire when the mage is being trained, but in RMP it really doesn't matter since the mages meaningful damage is being done during setups. My point is, I think RMP is the best comp for frost mage, it may or may not be better with fire, but thats not my point
Liking cata so far and your videos. Just wondering what comp you would suggest as someone who is trying to get better at arena as a warlock or ret pala. Games seem so fast paced and sometimes it's difficult to figure out what you could do better and learn.
I feel ret has lower skill cap to learn it fast warlock requieres so much micro management including pet management
hey hozi, love your videos, what u think about sp/dk/rshammn, or change the dk for a ret? I know its not high tier comp, but just wanna play it with friends i have xD
Sp dk can be a thing ya I feel like you do goes with grip / fears or u tunnel the healers imo
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Hey Hozito, thanks for the vid!
what's your opinion on scooby doo cleave, and what healer would work best?
Ret rogue right ? I haven’t seen anyone qin it besides 2s I played it back in tbc lmao I think rshaman fits this comp better or even disc i feel like u gotta play super aggro so priest fear on goes might be nice and r shaman could be more consistent for longer games
thank you!
cata is variable and makes it way more better then wrath
Hi Hozito, great video !
I’m planning on playing hpal with my mates uhdk and arms war, but i can’t find any information on it, What’s you opinion ? :)
That’s tsg right ? I haven’t face any tsg so far but I would rank it on A maybe B
@@Hozitojones yeah i think so ! Thanks a lot :)
I know that war and disc arent that good compared to other comps in 2s, but do you think, difficulty wise is it way more difficult than for example priest/rogue or priest/mage to achieve 2k+ ?
Warriors actually crank in s9 if I manage to get a pumper warrior I can def hit 2k in 2s not as easy as other comps but yeah
How do you feel about shadow priest/unholy dk/rshaman
hey i am SP and my mate is rogue would u recommend me to go disc and play rmp instead? or do you think RPS can get rating this season or next season?
Hey. I've played some rps with some friends a few days ago and its honestly not that bad. Its certainly not a S tier comp, but if played good it can most definitely be close to A tier easily.
@@johnlappa5447 i have aswell, we are fairly experienced players and do a decent job vs most comps but it just feels like going disc and finding a mage would be insta rating. i wanna know whether it does get stronger late seasons or if its still gonna be one or two tiers below other comps, in which case i would probably just play rmp
@@TheWowzz I haven't played OG Cata so I wouldn't know how much better the comp gets later on, but I do know spriest as a spec gets better. Therefore I would assume the comp also gets better naturally as we progress into later phases/seasons.
Currently the main downside to playing spriests (from my observation) is that their mana runs out quick in longer games than usual and its not a sustainable support class because of that reason only. Outside of that, it actually does some good damage, granted you aren't being completely shut down from start to finish.
Shadow gets better after s9 stick to have fun and the spec u love
I actually think warrior/Fmage/hpal is pretty good, maybe on par with kitty cleave
I played that comp as a disc and didn’t feel great maybe with a blue ya
Opinions on UHDK/LOCK/HPAL?
I think it has potential same as sp dk but sp dk is more like set up based comp with grip goes with the lock I feel like u can have insane spread pressure but issue that I c is that lock is gonna be dying ezly since dk don’t have enough peels
Hey hozito , Whats about shatterplay ?
I think is the same as god comp forgot to mention it 😢
Ty
Isn’t godcomp Sp mage and rdruid? I believe it got named godcomp cause in MOP they were unkillable.
It’s called god comp with a holy paladin as well ;)
Hey Hozito, is this a tierlist for the first season or for overall (all seasons)?
Overall
My Druid is about to hit 85. I wa gonna go boomkin because it’s my main on retail, and it’s incredibly fun in bgs, but now I’m thinking feral for arena 😱 boomy is still awesome in arena? Just need peels i guess.
Boomie is great yeah u spam moonfire and u do the most dmg 😂 also typhoon is so op since the short cd and range of it
Where does ret war disc go to?
B
LSD2??
Did he put TSG in here? i missed it if so
nop i forgot :(
@@Hozitojoneswhere would you rank TSG on your tier list? Unholy/Arms/HPal
On my ret playing UH/RET/DISC I hit a 97k WoG crit lol
Jeeeezusss
ret hunt rogue ... lets go : )
I love cata arena so much, but I wish it had solo q. LFG is just too outdated and its hard to find people, esp if u didnt go ally
Solo q would be great but there is no way they implement it in classic :(
@@Hozitojones but they have made pvp changes to classic! dont lose hope! like being abble to do crossrealm party to play with other people, there are no more teams and you can play with anyone, gladiator titles and rewards only for 3s, the increased weekly conquest cap of 4k points and that you can catch up with any Alt character!
PvP is better than ever, please pray so we can get solo Q! that would be awesome dudee, literally a dream come true for all of us Cataclysm PvP fans! :D
Hpal not in any s tier?
Nop
How do you put the number one team on the ladder and that won the arena tournament in anything other than S tier?
Because is a tournament comp that was being used to counter comp the caster cleave is not really a ladder comp that u farm every other comp
Also if u r talking about vanguards cleave is still high rated in my list is just not a S tier imo
They literally are r1 on ladder with some 14% more wr than you hozi what do you mean 😂. I like the videos but come on
@@miguelfalcao20 I mean they are a profesional team that have been competing together since ages ladder for a profesional team is a joke is not realistic to say just because one team is number one the comp is the best they can get r1 ladder as any comp if they want also yeah I play any comp with any people to ask me to q with if I only played one comp with the same people all the time I would def be up there no matter what with insane win ratio
@@Hozitojones 1) just because a team swapped team comp to better deal with something doesn’t mean the comp isn’t still S. Tier.
2) there is more than one vangaurds comp in the top hundred. It’s just the most well known example to point out. I think vanguard deserves S tier.
3) I hole heartedly respect your opinion and appreciate the content. Your video said to comment things we disagreed with.
4) The perfect parallel here to a team that you have in S tier is RMP Vs Jungle. It’s a team that you can win against but they are naturally going to be difficult games. Vanguards can beat wizards. But some wizard comps will naturally prove difficult.
Again thank you for the content. I enjoyed the video and subbed.
where is the audi cleave bro.
wtf is that?
@@user-pq6ly1ej9j double mage healer. cus of the rings.
If he puts spriest in S or A tier this whole list is trash
Maybe you are trash as shadow priest is different 🤔
Pretty sure this guy is AWC multi-rank 1 player. I have a hunch he might know a bit (alot) more than you.