NEW BIKERS SHOULD WATCH THIS - Crazy Motorcycle Moments - Ep. 606

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  • Опубликовано: 14 дек 2024
  • Greetings, fellow riders! 🌟 Today’s episode is packed with incredible and thought-provoking motorcycle moments that every beginner should take a closer look at. This isn’t just a video-it’s a guide to help you avoid the pitfalls many others have faced.
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    Staying safe on the road is something no rider can afford to ignore, and the examples in this video highlight just how crucial it is. There’s no better way to improve your skills than by learning from others’ experiences. Stay cautious, ride smart, and always keep an eye out for the unexpected.
    In the comments below, you’ll find a full list of riders who’ve graciously allowed their clips to be featured in this episode. 👇
    Thank you for tuning in! We hope this video helps you become a safer and more confident rider. Don’t forget to like, share, and let us know your thoughts in the comments. Ride safe and see you next time! 🏍️

Комментарии • 154

  • @argrides8440
    @argrides8440 19 часов назад +47

    1:07 The blurred speedo answers any questions one might have. The riders were obviously going too fast for the area. On roads like these you will have to expect obstacles or unexpected events. You can blame the car all you want, but they might as well have been crashing into a child running across the road.

    • @AnythingForSouls
      @AnythingForSouls 18 часов назад +2

      you can catch a frame before it at 35 and they get faster so probably 40-45 in a 30 possibly 20 and they even got tucked plates and shows a real lack of experience if they slam the breaks like that on a damp road with abs it just shouldn't happen plus he's got a massive gap to go in the back like his mate did there was no real reason to slam breaks just a weird one overall. It is funny though that they blur speedos and think they are in the right and everyone will back them like people are stupid lmfao

    • @ArminGrewe
      @ArminGrewe 17 часов назад

      What you really wanted to say: They were speeding, going well above the speed limit. Why blurring the speedo otherwise?

    • @paulh6591
      @paulh6591 16 часов назад +4

      The road was wet as well; speeds should have been checked for that reason too. That was a poor place for a car to make a road-blocking 3-point turn; I'd say shared responsibility for this mishap.

    • @somdusazerate
      @somdusazerate 15 часов назад +1

      Definitely too much speed and definitely low skill. Kid should start off with a 50cc judging by his lack of awareness.

    • @j.b.delaney3444
      @j.b.delaney3444 15 часов назад +3

      @@somdusazerate I'm thinking more something with pedals.

  • @AnythingForSouls
    @AnythingForSouls 18 часов назад +15

    8:57 funny that he sees it happening even zooms in like LOOK WHAT THIS DUDES DOING but doesn't slows down until he pulls out and you could fit a bus in the gap and hits the horn because hes made himself a victim rather than just slowing down approaching a situation.

    • @paulh6591
      @paulh6591 16 часов назад +4

      Yeah he can see what the vehicle is doing from waaaaaaaaay back there, then leans on the horn harder than he ever had to tough the brakes. 'Could have simply ceased accelerating and spared all the chiding, but where's the fun in not gloating about how in the "right" he is?

    • @williamlu4394
      @williamlu4394 3 часа назад

      It's a driveway, if I was in that situation I would presume that the car was reversing into the driveway. The rider did actually slow down enough and early enough to guarantee their safety, and I think the honking is fairly appropriate so that the driver may choose to look around him next time he's doing a 3 point turn on a rural highway. Perhaps the most responsible rider in this entire video, and I cannot personally wrong him for any of his actions. The zoom in is obviously post recording.
      If you were driving a car and a similar situation happened, would you not honk the idiot that's blocking the highway when he could've just waited in the driveway for like 3 seconds?

  • @AlexRye-sv6no
    @AlexRye-sv6no 20 часов назад +14

    Mick mack... Go to specsavers mate, that was on you

    • @Old_Geezer
      @Old_Geezer 12 часов назад

      Better yet, buy a bus pass.

  • @Misfit-from-Zanti
    @Misfit-from-Zanti 20 часов назад +21

    Rev it up and let go of the clutch.. That's what I said as my brother rode a wheelie into my dads van. 😆 🏍️💨

    • @RapidRedRider
      @RapidRedRider 19 часов назад +4

      Yeah that guy shouldn’t ever be giving riding lessons 😂

    • @dougupah8778
      @dougupah8778 16 часов назад +1

      @@RapidRedRider And your first lesson should not take place on the side of a public road.

    • @RapidRedRider
      @RapidRedRider 16 часов назад

      @@dougupah8778 right? 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @Old_Geezer
      @Old_Geezer 13 часов назад

      @@RapidRedRider For camels maybe?

    • @daystate123
      @daystate123 2 часа назад

      😂😂😂

  • @markdavies5508
    @markdavies5508 20 часов назад +13

    LH: Overtaking on zig-zag lines = Instant Karma
    And Mick Mack? The driver was an idiot, but read the road - it was obvious he was going to pull out just by the position of his pickup.

  • @vess2067
    @vess2067 17 часов назад +13

    4:56, If people are constantly coming into your lane you need to question why. I know some aren't your fault, but reading the road ahead, staying out of blind spots, and controlling your speed in traffic can mitigate quite a bit.

    • @Okurka.
      @Okurka. 13 часов назад +1

      You forgot to mention target fixation.

    • @doreenbrandt3697
      @doreenbrandt3697 10 часов назад

      You don't know how often it happens. Maybe he saved the clips over a long time and just published/sent them in all at once

    • @vess2067
      @vess2067 9 часов назад

      @@doreenbrandt3697 He's the one who said, "constantly" not me. I was only responding to that. I ride everyday in a big metropolitan area, and it doesn't happen to me constantly.

    • @kramsc1
      @kramsc1 7 часов назад

      I was thinking exactly the same thing as you when I watched his clips. The only constant in these clips is the rider so he must be the one doing things wrong.

    • @williamlu4394
      @williamlu4394 3 часа назад

      As a rider I would agree that even though it's not my fault it's still my responsibility, but the 'bindspot' varies from car to car depending on where the pillars are, size of rear window, angle of rear view mirror, angle of side mirrors etc. and it's hard to predict which drivers choose to be strapped to their chair with superglue and duct tape so that they don't bother moving their body or head by even an inch to actually see what's behind them. As a more experienced driver than rider, I always erase my blindspots when the first inkling of wanting to change lanes pops up in my mind. So, you may as well be telling riders to stop riding on multi lane roads; or the next best alternative is to go faster than surrounding traffic, which the rider was already doing. The other alternative is to go slower than traffic, in other words intentionally go to the back of the most congested lane, which is ridiculous on a bike. Conclusion is that the drivers in his locality are bad, and only real solution is to either deal with it knowing the risks, which the rider seems pretty experienced in doing, so much so that he no longer uses the horn.
      Or he could sell his bike and get a huge truck, simple people need simple solutions.

  • @bartekwasik9131
    @bartekwasik9131 19 часов назад +10

    0:54 perfect example of why we say: wear clothes for crash, not a ride.

  • @mr.b3168
    @mr.b3168 16 часов назад +5

    2:12 "We don't need ambulance" Yes you do.

    • @0000s_r7
      @0000s_r7 8 часов назад

      we didnt need an ambulance

  • @Ipsissimus
    @Ipsissimus 19 часов назад +9

    I think the helmet psychologically boosts their ego and somehow makes them think they're invincible. Like for some people wearing a mask makes them less socially inebriated especially in groups where it gives the illusion of anonymity.

  • @Old_Geezer
    @Old_Geezer 17 часов назад +7

    The most vital piece of motorcycle gear that is clearly missing from the riders in the vast majority of these clips should be obvious to everyone watching................
    It's commonly referred to as "a brain" and combined with the next most valuable piece of kit, known as eyes, can help you avoid probably around 96% of unpleasant incidents.

    • @Okurka.
      @Okurka. 12 часов назад

      85.6% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

  • @AlexRye-sv6no
    @AlexRye-sv6no 20 часов назад +17

    Speeding, in the wet, with hidden plates, what an idiot

    • @AdamWarwicker
      @AdamWarwicker 18 часов назад +1

      Blurred out dash, flipped plates, and not wanting the ambulance 🤔
      And I reckon an ABS Delete to top it all off.

    • @Old_Geezer
      @Old_Geezer 12 часов назад

      Rules and laws don't apply to them, if you get my drift.

  • @_zoiks_
    @_zoiks_ 16 часов назад +7

    What could possibly go wrong with speed and inexperience!!

    • @ma3stro681
      @ma3stro681 12 часов назад +1

      First guy thinks he’s a MotoGP rider … 😂

    • @pcprincipal2896
      @pcprincipal2896 5 минут назад

      His line looked good to me and not even much lean angle. Actually not sure how he came off

  • @classikz
    @classikz 20 часов назад +10

    More people flopping over for no reason.

  • @werepat
    @werepat 18 часов назад +7

    "I need to check if my legs are broken!" at 2:00 had me dying! Then 2:20? What did the dude have a seizure?
    This episode is proving to be a strong one so far!

    • @MyFearGear
      @MyFearGear 17 часов назад

      he have no protection, so it was really painful i guess

    • @Drobium77
      @Drobium77 14 часов назад

      his shoelace got stuck in the gear lever

  • @garyreed2206
    @garyreed2206 16 часов назад +5

    6:30 - Take a deep breath. She didn't panic. GOOD SAVE.

    • @jameswyattt1
      @jameswyattt1 15 часов назад +2

      The pterodactyl scream made me spit out my cheerios

    • @owenbrau63
      @owenbrau63 14 часов назад

      That's not actually a road, is it? It's awfully narrow, looks like the are riding on a bike path.

    • @Old_Geezer
      @Old_Geezer 12 часов назад +1

      Sure, she saved herself from her own incompetence, without which no save would have been necessary. Also I guarantee you, it was far more by luck than judgement and she nearly slammed into a cyclist in the process too. Great riding for sure.......

    • @TeunSegers
      @TeunSegers 8 часов назад +1

      @@owenbrau63 Nope, that's a road. Welcome to The Netherlands. It's not even the narrowest one.

  • @scuffedclips1
    @scuffedclips1 15 часов назад +6

    0:22 no sympathy for reckless driving bikers

  • @ALCLCFVIS
    @ALCLCFVIS 18 часов назад +5

    5:11 Happens because you are not "owning" your lane. Either to much on the left or right side. The lane is yours! Take it!

    • @terryrobertson111
      @terryrobertson111 17 часов назад

      Is lane splitting legal in Florida now?

    • @dougupah8778
      @dougupah8778 16 часов назад +1

      @@terryrobertson111 I think thats a big NO

    • @ALCLCFVIS
      @ALCLCFVIS 15 часов назад

      @@terryrobertson111 couldn't care less...the world doesn't start/end in Florida. Over the other side of the pond you either "own" the lane or you get shoved. If you want to lane split, split...and after it...own the lane. Simple really, except for those without a clue. Is there any clues in Florida?

    • @j.b.delaney3444
      @j.b.delaney3444 15 часов назад +1

      @@ALCLCFVIS No. No, there isn't. We even have an expression for when someone does something REALLY stupid...we call them "Florida man."

    • @ALCLCFVIS
      @ALCLCFVIS 15 часов назад

      @@j.b.delaney3444 I've an expression for people that watch multiple examples of the same behavior with the same result....and still don't understand why it happens.

  • @jasontomlinson8321
    @jasontomlinson8321 19 часов назад +6

    4:10 no way he dumped the bike in that easy of a corner.

    • @spartanx169x
      @spartanx169x 18 часов назад +1

      He had what I call a panic moment where he completely forgot how to ride. Most likely a very new rider- first or second time on a public road and just froze up due to fear. Probably had never taken a riders course either. After 2 decades of not riding, I started back. There was this one time where I had to consciencely tell myself, steer/lean or wreck. I counter steered leaned and it got better after that a lot better. It was a moment of gripping fear I had to push through.

    • @Old_Geezer
      @Old_Geezer 12 часов назад

      @@spartanx169x So, he shouldn't really be on a motorcycle is the takeaway - at least not without at least some training.

    • @Earthneedsado-over177
      @Earthneedsado-over177 11 часов назад

      Lucky for him he missed those signposts.

  • @Leeh187
    @Leeh187 17 часов назад +5

    Justt_johnny - tell your mate bikes do not stay upright on their own when stopped.

  • @100thMkey
    @100thMkey 11 часов назад +1

    I've found that the best way to not get hurt on a bike, is to not get into accidents

  • @patrickwade3150
    @patrickwade3150 17 часов назад +5

    Biker O reminded me of a goat who gets scared…flopped right over.

    • @dougupah8778
      @dougupah8778 16 часов назад +1

      I dont know why the visual of that has me LMFAO

  • @KubuśpuchatekTVN
    @KubuśpuchatekTVN 15 часов назад +4

    5:35 biker on the wrong side of the road and has the audacity to "what's the problem" gesture.

    • @Old_Geezer
      @Old_Geezer 13 часов назад

      Yep, another mobile organ donor that one.

  • @patrickwade3150
    @patrickwade3150 17 часов назад +2

    Insurance company: what happened, did you hit a deer when it ran in front of you?
    Biker: No, a big cow.

    • @SoloPilot6
      @SoloPilot6 13 часов назад

      It happens a LOT.

  • @VroomNDoom2602
    @VroomNDoom2602 15 часов назад +3

    3:03 That's a scary one right there. That car did run the light red.

    • @kramsc1
      @kramsc1 6 часов назад

      At all intersections I do a quick head check left and right before entering even with a green light, it has saved me quite a few times

  • @ArminGrewe
    @ArminGrewe 16 часов назад +4

    1:07 blurred speedo, obviously speeding, why hide the speedo otherwise? Also, first biker can safely stop with room to spare but second biker crashes. No further questions.
    5:35 dangerously overtakes (no, that's not filtering, that's blatant dangerous and illegal overtaking) on the outside of a bend and then blames the oncoming car for it? Are you for real?
    6:40 almost a head on collision with the cyclist, but keep telling people bikers only endanger themselves, never others. Not to mention that it was both of them who couldn't take that corner and endangered oncoming traffic. But you seemed to find that funny and laughed about it?
    9:00 How much of a heads up do you need? Could have had a nice cuppa and a biscuit between seeing what was going to happen and you getting there. Tiny adjustment of the throttle and it would have been a non-event, but you had to insist on your "right of way"?

  • @paulh6591
    @paulh6591 16 часов назад +4

    3:39 the man trying to diffuse the confrontation is telling motorcyclist to never come back; that tells me there more to the story, missing context from before the clip begins at 3:22. The motorcyclist with the gun tucked in his belt seems to be the one up in the motorist's face.

    • @antimatterhorn
      @antimatterhorn 14 часов назад

      the guy with the badge probably works there. the boomer touching everyone was almost certainly a patron who thought he was in charge of everything.

    • @Okurka.
      @Okurka. 12 часов назад +1

      The rev-bombs should tell you all you need to know.

    • @paulh6591
      @paulh6591 12 часов назад

      @@antimatterhorn Since we don't see the nature or severity of the initial provocation, how do we know whether the motorist is overreacting? The motorcyclist didn't do anything, was banned for life arbitrarily, out of the blue?

    • @antimatterhorn
      @antimatterhorn 12 часов назад

      @@paulh6591 i have no idea what the motorcyclist did. i have absolute knowledge that the motorist touching his girlfriend was not an appropriate reaction to anything the biker may have done.

    • @paulh6591
      @paulh6591 9 часов назад

      @@antimatterhorn Yeah that was odd, wasn't it? I figured the motorist interceded because there biker was arguing/fighting with the "girlfriend". Again, the cammer has released only what he wants you to see.

  • @h-d-olli
    @h-d-olli 19 часов назад

    *Best motorcycles dashcam channel*

  • @ongelooflijkmaarwaar
    @ongelooflijkmaarwaar 19 часов назад +2

    6:30 lmao gekke Kim op de Kawa 😅

  • @dimitardimov5343
    @dimitardimov5343 8 часов назад

    2:00 look new driver but.. i happy to see full suit :) GJ and go drive again mate :)

  • @billscott1601
    @billscott1601 14 часов назад +4

    Why on earth would someone ride a Goldwing on icy roads, that guy should quit riding for is own safety.

    • @SoloPilot6
      @SoloPilot6 13 часов назад

      Agreed, but to be fair, the road is only icy in a few spots, he probably hadn't seen enough ice yet to get worried enough to turn around.

    • @ma3stro681
      @ma3stro681 12 часов назад +2

      @@SoloPilot6There’s snow on the side of the whole road which means, don’t ride a motorbike today … 😂

  • @dropbearj4820
    @dropbearj4820 10 часов назад

    Cheers mate

  • @Rolilasx
    @Rolilasx 18 часов назад +3

    When you see animals on the side of the road don`t f*cking wave at them, jesus, just be prepared for anything !

  • @Supika893
    @Supika893 17 часов назад +3

    Speed, wet road....some "biker" should never drive again.

    • @Bronx6304
      @Bronx6304 12 часов назад

      I'm not faster but i am alive.

  • @icecold9511
    @icecold9511 18 часов назад +3

    Looks like about 50mph, in what should be a 30.

  • @Szymek1285
    @Szymek1285 15 часов назад

    Crazy rider

  • @LordofTreasure
    @LordofTreasure 20 часов назад +1

    Like Buddy 🎉greetings ✌️

  • @bobp6742
    @bobp6742 13 часов назад +1

    1:02 shouldn't overtake within the zig zags pillock.

  • @NakedPigeon
    @NakedPigeon 15 часов назад +1

    1:10 if they blur the speed, you know they were driving to fast.

  • @tvdinner325
    @tvdinner325 15 часов назад +1

    5:46 Why did he deliberately leave the clear part of the road and cross the ice?

    • @Earthneedsado-over177
      @Earthneedsado-over177 11 часов назад +1

      Why would he be riding in those conditions in the first place?

    • @tvdinner325
      @tvdinner325 2 часа назад

      @@Earthneedsado-over177 Beats me?

  • @victorgomez2956
    @victorgomez2956 12 часов назад

    Hi mi friend. I SEE from México City 👋

  • @5891jonathan
    @5891jonathan 14 часов назад +1

    My take on the situation at 1:15? The guy needs to learn basic braking skills.

    • @0000s_r7
      @0000s_r7 8 часов назад

      do you think so ?

  • @ce17ec
    @ce17ec 15 часов назад +3

    6:34 that's 300 meters from my house. You were all very stupid. There is a speed limit, warning signs, a speed bump before the corner and then a blind corner to the right. Still going far too fast. So very lucky that rider two didn't went of the dike. She would not be the first. Every year some stupid riders go off there, and always in group rides.

    • @owenbrau63
      @owenbrau63 14 часов назад

      Is that actually a road? It seems narrow.

    • @ce17ec
      @ce17ec 14 часов назад +1

      @owenbrau63 yes, narrow but no problem as long as f150's are not the common traffic. European cars can pass eachother without problems, but you have to drive a bit slower and with care.
      This whole video shows the big difference between US and European roads: endless tarmac in the US where roads are wider then 5 or 10 cars. And European roads where roads are smaller and people have to drive more carefull and sometimes have to negotiade for who goes first. And then watch statistics where traffic is safer, people drive much better, and where traffic is so much less stressing ......

    • @Okurka.
      @Okurka. 12 часов назад

      So now we know where you live.

    • @ce17ec
      @ce17ec 8 часов назад

      @@Okurka. If you know were that dike corner is, yes.
      So you want some sugar and milk in your coffee?

  • @paulroberts3639
    @paulroberts3639 5 часов назад

    That rider down with the car turning. He had nowhere to go. Totally the car’s fault.

  • @scottvessey915
    @scottvessey915 13 часов назад

    1:08 Riding FAR too fast for that road, never mind in those conditions.

  • @marton_horvath
    @marton_horvath 18 часов назад +1

    6:37 i spat out my coffee.

    • @MotoGuy-ul6lp
      @MotoGuy-ul6lp 17 часов назад

      I don't know how she managed to keep it upright on the camber of that grass.

    • @ce17ec
      @ce17ec 14 часов назад

      ​@@MotoGuy-ul6lpyes, but she almost hit the bicycle coming up on the road again. Many other riders gone of the dike there. And therefor there is a slow speed limit, a warning sign, a speed bump and a blind corner to the right. Brainless group riding is the cause of her fault.

    • @ce17ec
      @ce17ec 12 часов назад

      ​@@MotoGuy-ul6lp sheer luck. And that was also luck for the bicyclist she almost rammed ...

  • @ma3stro681
    @ma3stro681 12 часов назад

    If in doubt, slow down and pull out … 😎

  • @dno8025
    @dno8025 15 часов назад +1

    4:00 - That rider needs to sell their bike and use Uber.

  • @takashigamescolombia2838
    @takashigamescolombia2838 15 часов назад

    6:40😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @dennisolsen4507
    @dennisolsen4507 17 часов назад +2

    2:45 that boy should not be allowed to be anywhere near a motorcycle. It you can't push the bike off yourself after that little slide you are too weak to be on one.

    • @Okurka.
      @Okurka. 12 часов назад +1

      What slide? He fell over and got his leg stuck.

  • @alexalv99
    @alexalv99 12 часов назад

    8:33 Did the guy point a weapon at the rider? I don’t think they’d lock up the rear break from just a finger point…

    • @RANhxcCORE
      @RANhxcCORE 11 часов назад +1

      it was a thumbs up - no idea what this womans problem is. I think she got nervous realizing she was hogging the left lane lol?? `

    • @RANhxcCORE
      @RANhxcCORE 11 часов назад +2

      found the original vid - she said power failure on the bike - downshifting caused rear wheel to lock up but bike was dying

    • @alexalv99
      @alexalv99 11 часов назад +1

      @@RANhxcCORE Context really helped , Thanks👍👍

  • @JeanRoi
    @JeanRoi 11 часов назад

    So what did she experience at 8:58?

  • @user-vz2ev7ju3y
    @user-vz2ev7ju3y 11 часов назад

    Complete idiots on motorcycles are confronted with simple physics.

  • @HondaWanderer
    @HondaWanderer 7 часов назад

    Weird music & 8:50 nothing even happened? A slight wobble?

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    @joeorlando9477 19 часов назад +1

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    • @Okurka.
      @Okurka. 12 часов назад +1

      How many million?

  • @equinox2909
    @equinox2909 17 часов назад

    Bro can I share my footage here as well?

  • @joshuahuggins6267
    @joshuahuggins6267 20 часов назад +1

    Yellow bike lowsides going straight... how?

    • @AlexRye-sv6no
      @AlexRye-sv6no 20 часов назад

      Front brake

    • @classikz
      @classikz 20 часов назад

      Skill issue

    • @argrides8440
      @argrides8440 19 часов назад +2

      Hard to tell from the video angle, but looks like he lost traction on the wet tar snake.

    • @sussysimon
      @sussysimon 19 часов назад +2

      wet condition + swerving onto a (idk what that black line is called in english), they are slippery in if its hot or rainy

  • @SoloPilot6
    @SoloPilot6 13 часов назад +1

    2:22 -- WOW, who knew that Joe Biden bought a motorcycle? 4:05 -- gee, maybe you should READ that stuff painted in the road, like where it said "SLOW" . . . 5:40 -- why are you riding in the opposite traffic lane, Rookie? 5:50 -- an 800-lb GL1500 should NEVER be put on ice. You would have been better off to go on the outer tire track . . .but you REALLY would have been better off NOT GOING THERE AT ALL. 7:40 -- two wheels and a 2 IQ.

  • @StrawDragon
    @StrawDragon 3 часа назад

    So many bad riders like Yammi the Dummi...

  • @Leeh187
    @Leeh187 17 часов назад +1

    The Yep thats me nonsense needs to stop, i swear theres one clip[ in every video these days

  • @Drobium77
    @Drobium77 14 часов назад +1

    2:23 His shoelace got stuck in the gear lever, this has happened to every biker at some point :-p

    • @Adrenalean767
      @Adrenalean767 14 часов назад +4

      Not gonna happen to me

    • @Drobium77
      @Drobium77 14 часов назад

      @@Adrenalean767 why do you say that, do you only ever ride in proper motorbike boots?

    • @SoloPilot6
      @SoloPilot6 13 часов назад +1

      Been riding since 1968, hasn't happened to me yet.

    • @SoloPilot6
      @SoloPilot6 13 часов назад +2

      @@Drobium77 Why would you ever NOT ride in proper motorcycle boots?

    • @Drobium77
      @Drobium77 13 часов назад

      @@SoloPilot6 when I was 18 and stupid :-p now I'm 47 and only a little stupid