Mary married the man of her choice presumably for love and braved her brother's ire, one of the few to survive such an act. The pomp and circumstance of those days had to be a marvel to behold!
Thank you for today's lesson about Mary Tudor Brandon, Queen of France. At thirty-seven, in those times, after several pregnancies, and who knows how many ailments she endured that compromised her health, we can't know what kind of suffering she had in her final days. Blessings on her and all like her.
@@clarissesimon9253 You know, I had completely forgotten that her mother too had died at the age of 37, on her birthday to boot! But all the more tragic since her mother died from childbirth.
Her pain in the side may have been chronic appendicitis. I am not a doctor but I know this condition can go on for years on & off. Maybe it became acute at the end, just a thought.
It's likely I would have died at age 17 from appendicitis had I lived prior to the 20th century. Providing some other illness such as food poisoning, sweating sickness, etc. didn't get me first! So many people died too soon from illnesses that are treatable now. But we still can't fix everything, unfortunately!
As always Claire, just a terrific video! I look forward to our Tudor rendezvous everyday! Shhh!...Don't tell your husband... you are the "other woman" I can't wait to see.
lacouerfairy since it was chronic pain , I think it would’ve been a gyne problem . Do they specify which side ? The apply is in the right . But left side can be a diverticulitis . Even with today’s modern medicine abdominal/side/ flank pain needs high tech to diagnose .
Two videos today, you’ve made my day!! So said Mary died young. From your other videos she sounds like a fascinating woman! I’m glad her remains weren’t lost during the dissolution of the monestaries, though it’s sort of morbid that her hair was put into lockets in later centuries. Thanks again for another great video!
So Mary iis one of your great grandmothers! I first learned about her when I read the book “When Knighthood was in Flower”. I was 15 or 16 and it was a very romantic story.❤ A Grand love story. I recall that when she learned her brother had decided to marry her to the elderly King of France, she wasa devasted, she was so young, just a teenager herself. She obtained a promise from King Henry that when the elderly King of France died, she would be allowed to choose her next husband. A promise from her brother. Of course, when she was widowed and free to marry again, Henry went back on his promise.and was dangerously enraged about her sudden marriiage to Charles Brandon, his good friend. Oh dear. I dont thik it was in that first book, but later books said Mary and Charles avoided the worst of Henrys wrath by telling hm they were expecting a child…
Thank you again. Another fascinating video. Queen Mary of France had quite the royal send off. I like to believe there was a romantic love between Mary and Charles Brandon. I know they were banned from court for awhile after their secret marriage without the King's permission. However, they were soon taken back into the fold. I like to think at this point, before the jousting accident, that King Henry VIII held a great liking for his sister and his dear friend. It seems like Charles Brandon was the only one of the King's confidants that stayed in his good graces after they came back to court until Brandon's death shortly before the King's. You always leave me with more questions to find out more! I do love the bells and the animals in your videos. It all makes it seem like we are having a friendly chat rather than being lectured to. :)
I look forward to your videos every day! Mary Tudor was Henry’s favorite sister & she did marry Charles Brandon for love. Thank you for sharing Claire! Her funeral sounds quite spectacular.
What did King Henry IIIV SIster Mary look like? I never knew she had a Son with her 2' nd Husband named after her Father and Brother. I would love to see her portraits. I love the Bells, cats and your garden birds chirping in the background. Thank you for another wonderful "On This Day"! 6-25-1533.
@@anneboleynfiles Is it it true that Mary's 1'st marriage to the King of France was old, overweight and had gout? She was young and beautiful and what I've learned she protested with her Brother King Henry VIII and told him after the old king dies she would marry for love?
@@ericaschlueter336 Suffolk was supposed to be Catherine's guardian. She was supposed to marry Henry's son, but he died young. As I remember, the Suffolk titles reverted to the Crown with Suffolk's death (he only had 2 daughters and no surviving sons).
Well Catherine was about the same age as their children so she probably saw Catherine as a child she cared for. Which yes, makes Charles Brandon come across a creepy groomer... just saying...
Historical Duchess I’m not gonna lie. I think it would have been weird for Charles’s kids to have a stepmother their age. I’m sure when Mary and Charles took her in, being wife #2 was NOT what Mary had in mind. Strong female influence, yes. The woman who took her place....absolutely not
It seems as if that was the only reason anyone married anybody-their dowry, inheritance, titles, security & of course their proximity to & relationship with The King. Basically..always greedy for more power.
Translation of the French moto for you and your followers: 'La volonté de Dieu me suffit' means: 'The will of God for me (for I) suffices.' Also, it should be mentioned that centuries ago, people who belonged to royal and noble lines or of very high status or importance (even high clergy) where often buried in lead coffins - this was basically reserved for the elite and the wealthy. . . I would tend to rule out tuberculosis as there was no epidemic for this at the time of her death (and the next one occurred in 1553). Mind you, at the time of her death sweating sickness had cropped up from 1528 (could this cause abdominal pain of some sort? - if not, then I would rule this out too...). Another possibility (as she complained of pain localized 'on her side' (i would imagine the right side could possibly involve her liver ...there is the potential that she had porphyria (a genetic condition passed down into royal and noble lines which impacts the liver) - yet another potential cause could be hemochromatosis (which also can impact the liver and if left untreated and diet is not monitored properly can lead to death. It causes too much iron in the blood and this in turn can cause a heart attack...) - there is a genetic anomaly on the gene site which impacts the body for this among noble and royal lines. Yet another possibility: she could have had ovarian cancer whereby the pain on her side could have been located lower in her abdomen. If you can find what 'treatments' she was given, I would have a better clue to what was her cause of death.
Hi! I am not from England and I am not from cantry where english is main language. We dont learn about english history,only very little,for exemple Elizabeth I in lesion Reformation and contrareformation. But we watch TV serias The Tudors,Reign,White queen and White princess and Philipa Gregori's books are the most populare and best seling here. Because of this we offen have discusions about english history(of course we dont knew even our 🙂 ) and many people think that is real not fiction. Of course we have conflikts but...it is all life 🙂 I am sorry for my grammer, I like to wach your videos 🙂
I bet your country's history is interesting too, though. Yes, some people do believe everything they read and it does cause problems. It is wonderful that you have friends you can discuss Tudor history with, though.
I often wonder how close Henry was to his sister Mary; he named a ship after her - the Mary Rose. Never mind that it sank and is a well known current wreck.
If Henry Brandon hadn't died, he could've been his uncle heir, at least in line for the throne before his daughters or just after Elizabeth. But Tudor boys had the curse of dying young, except for Henry VIII himself (and his father).
I guesa I'm not as well versed in my Tudors as I thought bc I actually thought our Claire made a mistake!! Yes, I deserve the Tower of London for such a thought lol 😱😱😱
@@anneboleynfiles The name Mary made me only think of Henry's daughter Mary...I'd forgotten about his sister 😙. And remember, you've touched Anne Boleyn's Book of Hours...you're no longer a fallible human 😄😄 lol!
Speaking of which..... would you be willing to give us your view of The Tudors in one of your videos? They got the Mary/Charles Brandon situation totally wrong (among many other things). One spots a historical accuracy here and there.... but it's like using "Ancient Aliens" as a guide to Egyptian history. Or is that being too harsh??? That said, as a work of fiction and TV series it is well acted and presented.
Hello from California🥰My question is, after the death of Mary Tudor , Charles Brandon married Katherine Wilaby. Was Henry8th married to Katherine Howard at that time?
As i would say Hatch Matches and dispatches { Birth ,Marriage & deaths} Very sad Mary Died so young i agree will Gill a good theory, interesting if she lived longer . how would Mary have felt about Henry's other marriages .
Its interesting how upset people are that Charles married his 14 year old ward, but she was considered an adult at the time of their marriage and he was not unlike any other man of his time. We have a tendency to look at history in a modern light which isn't a good thing to do. Henry the vii'th mother was 12 or 13 when she was married, and 13 or14 when she delivered Henry.
I am intrigued by the painting of Mary. It appears that she has dark hair and eyes, yet I thought that she was described as being a fair beauty with more red to blond hair. Has anyone ever written about this, Claire, and has anyone ever commented on the similarity of this picture to those of Anne Boleyn? Thank you xox
She had the famous Tudor red hair like Henry. This photo has her with a darker shade of hair but theres another portrait where she is seen fo have red hair and it's quite a beautiful photo of Mary
There are lockets with her red hair from when her grave was opened in the 18th century. In fact, they tried recently to get DNA from two hairs taken from the lockets but concluded that the DNA was contaminated at the time the hair samples were taken. tonyriches.blogspot.com/2018/08/dna-testing-mary-tudor-queen-of-france.html www.google.com/search?q=lock+of+mary+tudor%27s+hair&client=firefox-b-1-d&sxsrf=ALeKk03wrDvYxKJ_DKNs-PQzIMKkxEaX5A:1597955175840&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=OygVB4KVYSPMmM%252CunvhLiYfJapZ4M%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kSLqQcO82rJWI4lcFUmSNFryZvctw&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjyoP30zqrrAhVKM6wKHSKjDiMQ9QEwAHoECAoQHQ&biw=1329&bih=972#imgrc=lQqBh4KQszUkKM&imgdii=LawUN1d9GnB1lM
In those days, prior to antibiotics and surgeries, there were a number of possible causes of youthful death-often from infections. Perhaps it was an ectopic pregnancy- not an infection but will kill from hemorrhage. However, even a simple bladder infection could have spread to the kidneys and from there to the blood stream, causing death from septic shock. That nearly happened to me- I had a kidney stone obstructing a kidney, then the kidney became infected and I was hospitalized for urosepsis- but antibiotics, fluids and pressor meds did the trick, and a stent was placed to get the stone out. If I'd lived in the 16th century, I'd have died at age 36. Then maybe my husband would've married a teenager a few months later-- who knows?
Kind of different to the version we were given in The Tudors about her (oh what a shock!). Quote from the TV show.....(Henry to Brandon) "You never even told me she was ill!". In real life he clearly was. The children were also missing in the series. Oh and what happened to that repulsive King of Portugal! :-)
I've often wondered what may have happened to the Tudor line of succession if Mary's son had lived for another 20 years or more. He may have been Edward VI's heir. Maybe he would've been king since he would've been the only male "Tudor" survivor at that point. Could he have received more support than the other Mary Tudor?
She was a major heiress. He had to move fast or risk losing her to another suitor. It didn't mean he didn't love Mary. After all, she was dead & gone. No amount of mourning or waiting could bring her back. 😢
@@lunachick1313 But Katherine was Charles's ward and would have a large inheritance. Now that poor Mary was dead, Charles must have decided to help himself to it all. Greedy and grasping even at his own son's expense.
@@marionarnott750 It's sad that a woman in that time would have been thought to be unseemly if she had not waited a year or more to wed after the death of her husband. Tragic, though I believe he loved Mary.💔
Do you have a book recommendation about Mary? Also, the "poor men" that walked in the funeral, was that literal or title? Do you mind explaining the beliefs & reasons behind these great funerals back then? I have always wondered what each part meant and why they did each thing etc. Thank you for another great video!
If you can get hold of Erin Sadlack's book, that's very good, and I enjoyed David Loades' book. These "poor men" were poor, as in literally poor. It was believed that the prayers of poor people for the dead were more effective at helping the soul through Purgatory, so poor people were a good thing to have at your funeral.
I wondered if she had early kidney disease with her earlier illness and as it gained force she woud have periods of illness and eventually it would poison the system and cause death,
It’s uncanny how the bells toll for thee and thou at just the right moment 😉. Marys widower gets remarried within 3 months, to a 14 year old girl who had been in his “charge.” I thought for sure you were going to suggest that they offed her- perhaps poison? Lastly, I found it strange that her tomb was invaded 100 years later and someone snipped some hair off of her and put it in a locket. It almost sounds like she had a fetish following, like something you’d see in Spain with a deceased saint or martyr of the church, with their finger cut off encased in a little chapel somewhere. But she wasn’t a saint. did she have some sort of crazy cult following? Like who cared about her 100 years later? I mean enough to tomb raid to get a piece of her?
I was surprised to see a black man in a high position in a movie, and wondered if it was just Hollywood adding them in during this age of inclusion. The movie is "Mary, Queen of Scots"...
I'm trying to think whether any of my Tudor history events include Jews or Muslims. I'm not sure. I did a talk on immigrants recently for the Tudor Society. It was interesting researching it. People just don't realise that England has always been multicultural - Jews settled in London in Norman times, black African people have settled in England since Roman times, and there was quite an influx of Muslims in Elizabeth's reign. It's all very interesting.
No, the Tudors was very inaccurate in what they did to her character and by combining Henry's two sisters into one as Margaret. Mary was not married to the King of Portugal and she did not murder anyone either.
Thank you so much! What are your opinions on if My Lady the Kings Mother Smothered Jasper Tudor? Is there any evidence of this? She seemed more evil than religious to me!
That makes great fiction, but Margaret Beaufort had no motive and she was not present at his death at Thornbury Castle. He died a natural death in his sixties. What makes you think that she was evil?
No,that's just a fiction of the show. But it doesn't come from Philippa Gregory's books. Not this scene,anyway. In the "White Princess" novel Margaret Beaufort is by Jasper Tudor's side till he dies and she grieves his death as well as Henry VII. But the show makes not only Margaret,but Elizabeth Woodville and York look bad as well. They're not portrayed like this in the book.
Mary married the man of her choice presumably for love and braved her brother's ire, one of the few to survive such an act. The pomp and circumstance of those days had to be a marvel to behold!
Thank you for today's lesson about Mary Tudor Brandon, Queen of France. At thirty-seven, in those times, after several pregnancies, and who knows how many ailments she endured that compromised her health, we can't know what kind of suffering she had in her final days. Blessings on her and all like her.
37 same age as her mother
@@clarissesimon9253 You know, I had completely forgotten that her mother too had died at the age of 37, on her birthday to boot! But all the more tragic since her mother died from childbirth.
So interesting ! The bells don’t take away from your videos at all. I think they fit in perfectly and add to the video. ❣️
I get upset when they are not therr
Her pain in the side may have been chronic appendicitis. I am not a doctor but I know this condition can go on for years on & off. Maybe it became acute at the end, just a thought.
Very interesting thought. Not s bad theory either.
It's likely I would have died at age 17 from appendicitis had I lived prior to the 20th century. Providing some other illness such as food poisoning, sweating sickness, etc. didn't get me first! So many people died too soon from illnesses that are treatable now. But we still can't fix everything, unfortunately!
Might have also been ovarian cysts. I suffer from them and I'm well aware of the agony they cause.
As always Claire, just a terrific video! I look forward to our Tudor rendezvous everyday! Shhh!...Don't tell your husband... you are the "other woman" I can't wait to see.
lacouerfairy since it was chronic pain , I think it would’ve been a gyne problem . Do they specify which side ? The apply is in the right . But left side can be a diverticulitis . Even with today’s modern medicine abdominal/side/ flank pain needs high tech to diagnose .
Some things you just want to see in history if only we could peep... Thank you, Claire!
🇭🇲🦘 A very interesting video about Mary Tudor. So sad she died so young. "Thank you" Claire 👑👍
I enjoy hearing the bells during your videos. It is amazing, the appropriate ringing!
Two videos today, you’ve made my day!!
So said Mary died young. From your other videos she sounds like a fascinating woman! I’m glad her remains weren’t lost during the dissolution of the monestaries, though it’s sort of morbid that her hair was put into lockets in later centuries. Thanks again for another great video!
One of my Great Grandmother’s. Thank you for this post! I understood her to pass in childbirth but am relieved to know she survived all of her births.
So Mary iis one of your great grandmothers! I first learned about her when I read the book “When Knighthood was in Flower”. I was 15 or 16 and it was a very romantic story.❤ A Grand love story. I recall that when she learned her brother had decided to marry her to the elderly King of France, she wasa devasted, she was so young, just a teenager herself. She obtained a promise from King Henry that when the elderly King of France died, she would be allowed to choose her next husband. A promise from her brother. Of course, when she was widowed and free to marry again, Henry went back on his promise.and was dangerously enraged about her sudden marriiage to Charles Brandon, his good friend. Oh dear. I dont thik it was in that first book, but later books said Mary and Charles avoided the worst of Henrys wrath by telling hm they were expecting a child…
Thank you again. Another fascinating video. Queen Mary of France had quite the royal send off. I like to believe there was a romantic love between Mary and Charles Brandon. I know they were banned from court for awhile after their secret marriage without the King's permission. However, they were soon taken back into the fold. I like to think at this point, before the jousting accident, that King Henry VIII held a great liking for his sister and his dear friend. It seems like Charles Brandon was the only one of the King's confidants that stayed in his good graces after they came back to court until Brandon's death shortly before the King's. You always leave me with more questions to find out more! I do love the bells and the animals in your videos. It all makes it seem like we are having a friendly chat rather than being lectured to. :)
Thank you! Although I want my videos to be accurate and correct, I like to keep things informal.
I didn’t know Mary Tudor died at 37 ; that’s so sad. But I think she was a mostly happy lady which was a rarity in those days.
The bells ring at the right time for Mary Tudor. Nice video!
As always Claire, I so look forward to our Tudor rendezvous everyday! Great video...and thank you!
Hey Claire,
I'm Dr Starkey's hairdresser- I will tell him about your videos when I see him!!
ryan border i believe he would enjoy them being a Tudor historian himself and one of my favorites
Wouldn't it be great if he could be a guest on the channel!?
ryan border he would be awesome as a guest
You cut Dr. Starkey's hair?! I love him! I have to say though, I'd ne terrified to do anything he could potentially criticize lol.
Thank you, that's so kind! I've corresponded with Dr Starkey and I met him last August and he was very kind.
I look forward to your videos every day! Mary Tudor was Henry’s favorite sister & she did marry Charles Brandon for love. Thank you for sharing Claire! Her funeral sounds quite spectacular.
What did King Henry IIIV SIster Mary look like? I never knew she had a Son with her 2' nd Husband named after her Father and Brother. I would love to see her portraits. I love the Bells, cats and your garden birds chirping in the background. Thank you for another wonderful "On This Day"! 6-25-1533.
If you look at the tumbnail of the video, that picture is taken from a painting of Charles Brandon and Mary.
@@anneboleynfiles Is it it true that Mary's 1'st marriage to the King of France was old, overweight and had gout? She was young and beautiful and what I've learned she protested with her Brother King Henry VIII and told him after the old king dies she would marry for love?
Wonderful insites, love all your vids, they give me my English history fix🇬🇧💕🇬🇧💕🇬🇧💕🇬🇧💕💕
My heavens they went all out for Mary! Although, I feel hanging around for 3 weeks above ground seems a little lengthy. Love the bells💞🔔
Love these every day. Thank you!
Claire I have just discovered you and your channel. I can’t thank you enough...you bring this period to life and I’m enjoying catching up!
Glad we had one Tudor woman whose love life actually took a turn for the better
I have seen that lock of her hair - history makes much of the red hair of the Tudors and she had very pretty colouring indeed.
Rest In Peace, Mary Tudor. I heard she was Henry’s favorite sister so I bet Henry was crushed by this
A princess, a queen and a duchess ... what a lady!
She covered all her bases didn't she?
Rest in Peace Mary Tudor. Death can early in the Tudor Days to many. So sad. Thank you Claire I love Tudor Time.
Rest in peace Mary Tudor I have admired her beauty, strength and strong will. A true Tudor .🌺
Her mother,Queen Elizabeth of York died at the same age. But it was of complications after childbirth,Mary died of illness.
Love your Tudor talks thank you
Claire, i'd love to see you review the existing series. Tudors, Wolf Hall, White Queen and White Princess
Don’t forget Spanish Princess!
I just don't have time to do that, I'm afraid, and I had to give up watching the White Queen as I just couldn't cope with it!
@@anneboleynfiles Too much of a soap opera with added Hollywood style fiction?
Yes!
Dont forget Reign(shame of me)
Did you plan the bells? I enjoy your channel so much, thank you and keep creating! #LoveTudors
Mary followed in her mother's footsteps, who also died at age 37.
I find it curious that Charles Brandon was so quick to remarry. I’d be interested to know what Mary thought of their ward Catherine
ReyTheJediLady ViaJakku I would imagine for the inheritance of Catherine. It would be interesting what Mary thought of her.
@@ericaschlueter336 Suffolk was supposed to be Catherine's guardian. She was supposed to marry Henry's son, but he died young. As I remember, the Suffolk titles reverted to the Crown with Suffolk's death (he only had 2 daughters and no surviving sons).
Yep Catherine had a large amount of inheritance
Well Catherine was about the same age as their children so she probably saw Catherine as a child she cared for. Which yes, makes Charles Brandon come across a creepy groomer... just saying...
Historical Duchess I’m not gonna lie. I think it would have been weird for Charles’s kids to have a stepmother their age. I’m sure when Mary and Charles took her in, being wife #2 was NOT what Mary had in mind. Strong female influence, yes. The woman who took her place....absolutely not
Did Brandon remarry so quickly because he wanted control of his ward's fortune?
Yes, definitely.
Yup... if you read up on his history, he is known for doing this.
It seems as if that was the only reason anyone married anybody-their dowry, inheritance, titles, security & of course their proximity to & relationship with The King.
Basically..always greedy for more power.
I wish we knew the cause of Mary's death. May she rest in peace. Thank you for my daily history lesson Claire!! Keep up your great work!
Translation of the French moto for you and your followers: 'La volonté de Dieu me suffit' means: 'The will of God for me (for I) suffices.' Also, it should be mentioned that centuries ago, people who belonged to royal and noble lines or of very high status or importance (even high clergy) where often buried in lead coffins - this was basically reserved for the elite and the wealthy. . . I would tend to rule out tuberculosis as there was no epidemic for this at the time of her death (and the next one occurred in 1553). Mind you, at the time of her death sweating sickness had cropped up from 1528 (could this cause abdominal pain of some sort? - if not, then I would rule this out too...). Another possibility (as she complained of pain localized 'on her side' (i would imagine the right side could possibly involve her liver ...there is the potential that she had porphyria (a genetic condition passed down into royal and noble lines which impacts the liver) - yet another potential cause could be hemochromatosis (which also can impact the liver and if left untreated and diet is not monitored properly can lead to death. It causes too much iron in the blood and this in turn can cause a heart attack...) - there is a genetic anomaly on the gene site which impacts the body for this among noble and royal lines. Yet another possibility: she could have had ovarian cancer whereby the pain on her side could have been located lower in her abdomen. If you can find what 'treatments' she was given, I would have a better clue to what was her cause of death.
They really knew how to throw a funeral when it wasn't someone who was executed. . .
Hi! I am not from England and I am not from cantry where english is main language. We dont learn about english history,only very little,for exemple Elizabeth I in lesion Reformation and contrareformation. But we watch TV serias The Tudors,Reign,White queen and White princess and Philipa Gregori's books are the most populare and best seling here. Because of this we offen have discusions about english history(of course we dont knew even our 🙂 ) and many people think that is real not fiction. Of course we have conflikts but...it is all life 🙂 I am sorry for my grammer, I like to wach your videos 🙂
I bet your country's history is interesting too, though.
Yes, some people do believe everything they read and it does cause problems. It is wonderful that you have friends you can discuss Tudor history with, though.
Thank you.
I understand Henry ordering Mass, but why do you suppose (or know) the reason he did not attend her funeral? Did monarchs not do that?
Ann has explained it very well, it just wasn't protocol.
I often wonder how close Henry was to his sister Mary; he named a ship after her - the Mary Rose. Never mind that it sank and is a well known current wreck.
But WHAT is the source of those marvelous bells?! 🤔
Poor Mary, but I think she had quite a happy life, compared to most people
Very Grand departure for the Queen of France she seemed well liked the bells always ring out for comings and goings xx
I agree with that the Bell's do make the videos
If Henry Brandon hadn't died, he could've been his uncle heir, at least in line for the throne before his daughters or just after Elizabeth. But Tudor boys had the curse of dying young, except for Henry VIII himself (and his father).
I guesa I'm not as well versed in my Tudors as I thought bc I actually thought our Claire made a mistake!! Yes, I deserve the Tower of London for such a thought lol 😱😱😱
What did you think I did? Ha! I am human and make mistakes
@@anneboleynfiles The name Mary made me only think of Henry's daughter Mary...I'd forgotten about his sister 😙. And remember, you've touched Anne Boleyn's Book of Hours...you're no longer a fallible human 😄😄 lol!
Ah, ok! Ha! Yes, I have super powers now!
I very much enjoy your videos, much love from the states.
What an impressive procession. Timely bells, of course!
Speaking of which..... would you be willing to give us your view of The Tudors in one of your videos? They got the Mary/Charles Brandon situation totally wrong (among many other things). One spots a historical accuracy here and there.... but it's like using "Ancient Aliens" as a guide to Egyptian history. Or is that being too harsh??? That said, as a work of fiction and TV series it is well acted and presented.
So much interesting drama on the Tudors.
RIP, as the bells toll. Peace.
Have you done a video on Charles Brandon yet? I would love to hear your view of him.
Hello from California🥰My question is, after the death of Mary Tudor , Charles Brandon married Katherine Wilaby. Was Henry8th married to Katherine Howard at that time?
Charles Brandon married Catherine Willoughby in 1533, just a few months after Mary's death, and Henry VIII was married to Anne Boleyn at the time.
1533 is a famous year; I just can’t remember exactly why. I have to check; perhaps Elizabeth I was born in 1533?
You dont mention charles in attendance. Did he not attend at all?
It wasn't customary for spouses to attend funerals back then.
As i would say Hatch Matches and dispatches { Birth ,Marriage & deaths} Very sad Mary Died so young i agree will Gill a good theory, interesting if she lived longer . how would Mary have felt about Henry's other marriages .
Its interesting how upset people are that Charles married his 14 year old ward, but she was considered an adult at the time of their marriage and he was not unlike any other man of his time. We have a tendency to look at history in a modern light which isn't a good thing to do. Henry the vii'th mother was 12 or 13 when she was married, and 13 or14 when she delivered Henry.
I am intrigued by the painting of Mary. It appears that she has dark hair and eyes, yet I thought that she was described as being a fair beauty with more red to blond hair. Has anyone ever written about this, Claire, and has anyone ever commented on the similarity of this picture to those of Anne Boleyn? Thank you xox
She had the famous Tudor red hair like Henry. This photo has her with a darker shade of hair but theres another portrait where she is seen fo have red hair and it's quite a beautiful photo of Mary
There are lockets with her red hair from when her grave was opened in the 18th century. In fact, they tried recently to get DNA from two hairs taken from the lockets but concluded that the DNA was contaminated at the time the hair samples were taken.
tonyriches.blogspot.com/2018/08/dna-testing-mary-tudor-queen-of-france.html
www.google.com/search?q=lock+of+mary+tudor%27s+hair&client=firefox-b-1-d&sxsrf=ALeKk03wrDvYxKJ_DKNs-PQzIMKkxEaX5A:1597955175840&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=OygVB4KVYSPMmM%252CunvhLiYfJapZ4M%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kSLqQcO82rJWI4lcFUmSNFryZvctw&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjyoP30zqrrAhVKM6wKHSKjDiMQ9QEwAHoECAoQHQ&biw=1329&bih=972#imgrc=lQqBh4KQszUkKM&imgdii=LawUN1d9GnB1lM
I like your shirt/ dress BTW
In those days, prior to antibiotics and surgeries, there were a number of possible causes of youthful death-often from infections. Perhaps it was an ectopic pregnancy- not an infection but will kill from hemorrhage. However, even a simple bladder infection could have spread to the kidneys and from there to the blood stream, causing death from septic shock.
That nearly happened to me- I had a kidney stone obstructing a kidney, then the kidney became infected and I was hospitalized for urosepsis- but antibiotics, fluids and pressor meds did the trick, and a stent was placed to get the stone out. If I'd lived in the 16th century, I'd have died at age 36.
Then maybe my husband would've married a teenager a few months later-- who knows?
Kind of different to the version we were given in The Tudors about her (oh what a shock!). Quote from the TV show.....(Henry to Brandon) "You never even told me she was ill!". In real life he clearly was. The children were also missing in the series. Oh and what happened to that repulsive King of Portugal! :-)
I've often wondered what may have happened to the Tudor line of succession if Mary's son had lived for another 20 years or more. He may have been Edward VI's heir. Maybe he would've been king since he would've been the only male "Tudor" survivor at that point. Could he have received more support than the other Mary Tudor?
So Suffolk waited just 3 months to marry his 14 yo ward. So unseemly.
A bit of a rake, it would seem!
She was supposed to marry his Son!
She was a major heiress. He had to move fast or risk losing her to another suitor. It didn't mean he didn't love Mary. After all, she was dead & gone. No amount of mourning or waiting could bring her back. 😢
@@lunachick1313 But Katherine was Charles's ward and would have a large inheritance. Now that poor Mary was dead, Charles must have decided to help himself to it all. Greedy and grasping even at his own son's expense.
@@marionarnott750 It's sad that a woman in that time would have been thought to be unseemly if she had not waited a year or more to wed after the death of her husband. Tragic, though I believe he loved Mary.💔
Would it have been possible for Mary to have remained unmarried after her first husband, the French king, died?
Perhaps if she had taken the veil or been very firm, but she would have been expected to make a diplomatic match.
love your top
Claire, what does your left arm tattoo say? I am fascinated. Is it Tudor inspired?
Yes! It's Anne Boleyn's inscription from one of her books of hours "Le temps viendra, Je Anne Boleyn".
Wasn't Francis, her daughter Mother to Jane Grey?
Yes
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Do you have a book recommendation about Mary? Also, the "poor men" that walked in the funeral, was that literal or title? Do you mind explaining the beliefs & reasons behind these great funerals back then? I have always wondered what each part meant and why they did each thing etc. Thank you for another great video!
If you can get hold of Erin Sadlack's book, that's very good, and I enjoyed David Loades' book.
These "poor men" were poor, as in literally poor. It was believed that the prayers of poor people for the dead were more effective at helping the soul through Purgatory, so poor people were a good thing to have at your funeral.
@@anneboleynfiles The poor people should have demanded a lot of money for their services. Lol.
I just realize Mary died the same age as she’d mother.
was it unusual Claire that Henry did not attend her funeral> She was his "favourite sister".
No, monarchs were not expected to attend funerals.
What was the translation of Mary's motto?
What is the translation of her motto?
the bells always know
I wondered if she had early kidney disease with her earlier illness and as it gained force she woud have periods of illness and eventually it would poison the system and cause death,
Brandon was an opportunist.
What does your tattoo say Claire?
Beth Fellows - I’ve been wondering the same.
It's Anne Boleyn's inscription from one of her books of hours "Le temps viendra, Je Anne Boleyn".
I thought Mary Tudor who was married to Charles Brandon and former queen or queen Dowager of France died from consumption or tuberculosis.
It’s uncanny how the bells toll for thee and thou at just the right moment 😉. Marys widower gets remarried within 3 months, to a 14 year old girl who had been in his “charge.” I thought for sure you were going to suggest that they offed her- perhaps poison? Lastly, I found it strange that her tomb was invaded 100 years later and someone snipped some hair off of her and put it in a locket. It almost sounds like she had a fetish following, like something you’d see in Spain with a deceased saint or martyr of the church, with their finger cut off encased in a little chapel somewhere. But she wasn’t a saint. did she have some sort of crazy cult following? Like who cared about her 100 years later? I mean enough to tomb raid to get a piece of her?
A body left out for 3 weeks??😫😫
will you tell us anything about Jewish people and muslim people during Tudor times? Elizabeth I helped create the 1st synagogue in london.
I was surprised to see a black man in a high position in a movie, and wondered if it was just Hollywood adding them in during this age of inclusion. The movie is "Mary, Queen of Scots"...
I'm trying to think whether any of my Tudor history events include Jews or Muslims. I'm not sure. I did a talk on immigrants recently for the Tudor Society. It was interesting researching it. People just don't realise that England has always been multicultural - Jews settled in London in Norman times, black African people have settled in England since Roman times, and there was quite an influx of Muslims in Elizabeth's reign. It's all very interesting.
See www.theanneboleynfiles.com/black-africans-in-medieval-england-by-toni-mount/
I like she was always called the French Queen
I'm number 8!!
From watching the series "The Tudors", I thought she was once married to the King of Portugal.
No, the Tudors was very inaccurate in what they did to her character and by combining Henry's two sisters into one as Margaret. Mary was not married to the King of Portugal and she did not murder anyone either.
Thank you very much. In America we call that "Fake News" or something similar. LOL!
Thank you so much! What are your opinions on if My Lady the Kings Mother Smothered Jasper Tudor? Is there any evidence of this? She seemed more evil than religious to me!
That makes great fiction, but Margaret Beaufort had no motive and she was not present at his death at Thornbury Castle. He died a natural death in his sixties. What makes you think that she was evil?
@@anneboleynfiles just everything she put Elizabeth Woodville and Elizabeth of York through and poor Margaret Pole.
No,that's just a fiction of the show.
But it doesn't come from Philippa Gregory's books. Not this scene,anyway. In the "White Princess" novel Margaret Beaufort is by Jasper Tudor's side till he dies and she grieves his death as well as Henry VII. But the show makes not only Margaret,but Elizabeth Woodville and York look bad as well. They're not portrayed like this in the book.