Lol, I've actually found about this company a few days ago when I stumbled upon their setup exe on a work trip. They do have some cool stuff, but it is expensive. If I had to choose between re-cabling a rack with this or buying a better switch, AP or firewall, I'd take the latter any day of the week. not to mention that it takes up rack space which in an office where you have 200+ sockets to route to switches can be at a premium. What we do in our corpo is: 24p patchcpanel 48p switch 24p patchpanel almost everything connected with 25cm cables Sure, sometimes we can't avoid clutter. But it is A LOT cheaper, everything is visible, and wall sockets end up corresponding mostly 1-1 with ports on the switch which makes troubleshooting a random device connected somewhere in a office hundreds km away a bit easier.
If you can do 1:1 then it's great to have tiny patch cables. If you need a variety of types of switches (PoE / non-PoE / 10G for example) then you have a lot more complexity to deal with in patching.
The idea is smart, but the price is insane. If I added one of those with a few cable modules, it would almost be the most expensive part in my rack. These are clearly not meant for small homelabs and the only people using them for such a purpose, are the ones being sponsored and getting them for free. Regular patch cables are just fine for me and I can buy them in bulk for less than a single cable module.
same, i would need 2 maxed out patchboxes @ $600-800/ea for my rack (and why are there plus+ and 365 models now? the cassettes arent interchangeable either...). for that price id rather dump in 60-72tb of hdds in my nas and i can live with the "messy" wiring
I think mounting the switch directly under or in between the patchpanels and then running some very short patch cables looks much neater that these patch boxes
The dev/mount is great, and the company stands by their product, I recently received a handful of them that were crooked and they sent me a replacement of the 6-8 dev/mount(s). I offered to send the defective items so they could investigate but they just replaced them.
Yeah, same here. I was intrigued by their ad a few months back, but the price is wild for something that's a novelty at best, a liability at worst. I would not want this in an enterprise rack because if one cable fails and I don't have a spare cartridge handy, I'll be replacing that run with a regular cable anyway, and another, and another, until this fancy box is just taking up rackspace for nothing. A thousand bucks buys a heck of a lot of patch cords and DACs.
If you do 1:1 patching (a switch port for every patch port) it's a lot easier to make it look nice. I have too much variety in my network to do that, but a cube farm / email factory would be pretty easy
I really like the functionality. I use the phone app for setting focus without a dedicated monitor, and it's also easy to download clips after recording via Ethernet. It has an API although I haven't made use of it yet. I have a pretty basic Panasonic 14mm prime lens to go with it. On the flip side, it gets crazy hot (it reports 75C basically all the time) while running and recently the Ethernet stopped working (but Poe still works strangely), which I'm in contact with their warranty people about. They've agreed to fix it, but the company that does US service hasn't responded to me yet.
On my phone I see you with a crown of yellow network cables. But on the laptop I just see a boring patch pal. I really like the crown of yellow network cables better. 😁
What a great breakdown on how to use a wonderfully innovative product.
Looks great. Thanks for taking us along.
couldn't have said this better myself. I hope this channel gets big.
I love the @JeffGeerling shirt! Great videos! I love your cats.
Great job, looks awesome! Nice product tips and demos too.
Lol, I've actually found about this company a few days ago when I stumbled upon their setup exe on a work trip.
They do have some cool stuff, but it is expensive.
If I had to choose between re-cabling a rack with this or buying a better switch, AP or firewall, I'd take the latter any day of the week.
not to mention that it takes up rack space which in an office where you have 200+ sockets to route to switches can be at a premium.
What we do in our corpo is:
24p patchcpanel
48p switch
24p patchpanel
almost everything connected with 25cm cables
Sure, sometimes we can't avoid clutter.
But it is A LOT cheaper, everything is visible, and wall sockets end up corresponding mostly 1-1 with ports on the switch which makes troubleshooting a random device connected somewhere in a office hundreds km away a bit easier.
If you can do 1:1 then it's great to have tiny patch cables. If you need a variety of types of switches (PoE / non-PoE / 10G for example) then you have a lot more complexity to deal with in patching.
The idea is smart, but the price is insane. If I added one of those with a few cable modules, it would almost be the most expensive part in my rack. These are clearly not meant for small homelabs and the only people using them for such a purpose, are the ones being sponsored and getting them for free. Regular patch cables are just fine for me and I can buy them in bulk for less than a single cable module.
same, i would need 2 maxed out patchboxes @ $600-800/ea for my rack (and why are there plus+ and 365 models now? the cassettes arent interchangeable either...). for that price id rather dump in 60-72tb of hdds in my nas and i can live with the "messy" wiring
I think mounting the switch directly under or in between the patchpanels and then running some very short patch cables looks much neater that these patch boxes
If you do 1:1 patching (a switch port for every single drop), then yes it is neater to use really short patch cables.
The dev/mount is great, and the company stands by their product, I recently received a handful of them that were crooked and they sent me a replacement of the 6-8 dev/mount(s). I offered to send the defective items so they could investigate but they just replaced them.
Yeah, same here. I was intrigued by their ad a few months back, but the price is wild for something that's a novelty at best, a liability at worst. I would not want this in an enterprise rack because if one cable fails and I don't have a spare cartridge handy, I'll be replacing that run with a regular cable anyway, and another, and another, until this fancy box is just taking up rackspace for nothing. A thousand bucks buys a heck of a lot of patch cords and DACs.
Looks good. Good results/effort ratio. To get those insanely prestine looking racks must take 100 x the work.
If you do 1:1 patching (a switch port for every patch port) it's a lot easier to make it look nice.
I have too much variety in my network to do that, but a cube farm / email factory would be pretty easy
Looking great! 🙂
I'd like to see more fiber and/or 25/40/56/100 dac - especially for most smb the network is weak link but pretty easy to upgrade - good content!
Lookin real shiny, there.
Get a used Juniper EX2300-48P to replace both switches, swap fans for Noctua ones :) Will get you 4 x 10G SFP+ ports too
I already have 4x SFP+, if anything I need more of those and not PoE / gigabit.
Ah, yes the thing of at least one thing being "just" a little bit too short. So business like usual! 😉🙄🤔
Any reason you didn't go with single mode fiber instead of multi mode?
I have a few transceivers for each, and wanted to use up my last MMF ones on these little runs.
Poe camera - are you using a surveillance camera for recording, or what is the setup? You definitely got me curious..
it's a Zcam e2c, which is a studio camera
@@apalrdsadventures how do you like your zcam? also what lense do you use?
I really like the functionality. I use the phone app for setting focus without a dedicated monitor, and it's also easy to download clips after recording via Ethernet. It has an API although I haven't made use of it yet.
I have a pretty basic Panasonic 14mm prime lens to go with it.
On the flip side, it gets crazy hot (it reports 75C basically all the time) while running and recently the Ethernet stopped working (but Poe still works strangely), which I'm in contact with their warranty people about. They've agreed to fix it, but the company that does US service hasn't responded to me yet.
Holy crap that patchbox setup is clean AND flexible. Super nice.
too bad theres no dot sh alternate for the setup dot exe
I like the other picture better. :-)
which one is the 'other' one?
On my phone I see you with a crown of yellow network cables. But on the laptop I just see a boring patch pal. I really like the crown of yellow network cables better. 😁
Looks like the crown is performing better so far
You lost me the second you mentioned Patchbox. Technology without a practical purpose.