I think Lamar played amazing and a close lost last week. Maybe that was it. But I think it should have went to Dak Prescott or definitely CMC. CMC is like watching Ja Morant and Doncic
🤔💬Lamar jackson has not developed as a passer Enough. Yes he's had the mvp but the Fans vote on that I do not put a lot of stock in that!!! Sheduer Sanders is a better passer of the football and he is in college Lamar should be further along as a passer by now That's why they can only get so far in the playoffs You look at a guy Like jaylen hurts He has developed in a shorter amount of time As a passer then lamar jackson
Here we go with all the people saying what Lamar deserved 😂. If the players he goes against & coaches put him on that top tier level, that’s the only opinion I care about.
@@theblinkerx most redzone turnovers & fumbles where? Like I said if great defenders & other great QBs stamping him, that’s all you need to know about LJ8. Is he best right now? No but he’s top 4
People act like Lamar didn’t put his team in position to win he literally threw a bullet to Zay Flowers which was assumed a for sure touchdown but ended up a fumble on the goal line which costs Baltimore the game
@BetterThanYou-uj4cdLamar doesn’t have the #1 special teams and is the running game , his best 2 rbs were out but ok , guys like Allen had the #1 defense and did nothing
Dude, you are the slow one it is literally MVP, Most Valuable Player!! Ain't no f in way Lamar was the Most Valuable Player in the entire league, no f in way! The media has changed it to hey lets just give this award to the quarterback of the team with the best record. That is just stupid as f
@@ZOMBIELANDakaUSA still was the best team in the nfl no matter what you say Lamar is hard to beat he had to be off or his receivers are off or coaching he gone win a lot of superbowls
@@yung4109the refs nor Swift held the Ravens to 10 pts, please stop the crying and excuses...Excuses lost Chargers, excuses lost Tenn, excuse lost Bills, excuses lost KC. Dude stop it!
Tell me why they hate on purdy so much and it's only his first full season as a starter? Every thing keshawn said about Lamar, could be applied to Purdy
They dont like the under dog to win im a Steelers fan but i root for the under dog he was last qb picked and hea the 1 st out that class to win a conference champ and now playin in super bowl meanwhile we stuck with a 1 st round bust in Kenny pickett
@ismaelamaro7728 so how many times have you said "gotta get it done in the playoffs" in regards to other qbs? I see that alot towards Lamar but never towards burrow, Herbert, Josh or Trevor.
@ismaelamaro7728 dope! That's good. This time should be about his achievements. Jackson always gets his achievements devalued by people interjection his short comings. That's cool as long as we're doing that for other qbs, which doesn't happen. Hopefully one day Jackson can get the same treatment as his counterparts.
@@isaiahh4108 Their actually talking about both his MVPs. Michael Irvin said he won his 1st mvp with his legs. Which is when he lead the league in passing TDS
@@k1ngj89 that’s why watching matters he threw a lot of redzone TDs which is still impressive but his passing TD output didn’t match his passing yard output he was definitely a better passer this year
@brandonmcdonald5091 Joe beat a Manning stacked Broncos team at Mile High Stadium en route to a SB. He made a clutch throw to send game to OT. Broncos won SB next season. Learn something.
As a Redskins fan, Lamar being a student of RG3 is nothing to get excited about. RG3 didn't even UNDERSTAND how to slide. How the f does an athlete, much less a human being with a brain, not UNDERSTAND how to slide. You get down feet first and you slide. WTF is there to get confused about with that??? RG3 quite honestly is a f in idiot
My only issue with the MVP is, Lamar wasn't in the MVP discussion for most of the season until the last 3 or 4 weeks. Dak, Purdy, Stroud played better and put up better stats. But congrats to Lamar, the pressure is definitely on him to get to the SB.
Lamar has been in the mvp conversation all season. When he blew out two nfc teams first in their division. Why are we acting surprised that a man blowing out the lions, Seahawks, 49ers, and dolphins is MVP. If this was Josh Allen people wouldn’t stop dickriding him.
@@janellewilson1702 Lamar numbers wasn't great (#11 in TD and #15 in yards). Purdy, Dak, Stroud, CMC and T. Hill was being talked about for most of the season. And J. Allen winning MVP would've been terrible because of his turnovers.
@@MansionLive the metrics are the only thing people can say. But if it was all about numbers why did 49 voters pick him. We gotta start seeing it’s not all about numbers it’s what you can produce. Dak had a crazy season but only beat a couple teams with a record above .500. Brock would’ve won mvp but completely demolished that when Lamar outshined him in his stadium, and purdy is not the best player on his team. Stroud was again demolished by Lamar two times. People have to start seeing the bigger picture. Lamar won mvp because he beat up on teams that people considered to be the best in the nfl.
@@MansionLiveJosh turnovers argument is so repetitive and lazy. That’s the only argument they repeat over and over. Yeah he’s not a game manager he has to do everything and takes chances. He’s the most valuable to his team
Cmon keyshawn, we always do that with every great QB, there will always be the next goal to reach, now that we know lamar was able to get to the AFC championship now we gotta see him get to the SB……….. thats how it works for every GREAT QB
When in my comment did i say lamar proved something?……. I was referring to the comment keyshawn made about “the media” moving the goalpost with lamar……… what i mean is that every great QB needs to prove they can win it at the highest level……… yall gotta practica comprehensive reading
Heres a fun fact about QB MVPs. Every QB MVP has had at least 70% Or more of their teams Total TDs. Lamar had 55%. Hows that valuable? Allen had 81% Dak had 76% Mahomes 73% Stroud had 71% Lamar isnt that valuable to ein MVP. Pretty obvious fact
think people need to realize Patrick Mahomes is the Tom Brady of this era and a lot of QBs like Lamar Jackson can have great regular seasons and not be able to get past Patrick Mahomes. only Joe Burrow and Tom Brady has
@@Veracity7778 it doesn’t matter. the window is closing quick and the AFC is still stacked. the AFC North and/or South next year could have 3 teams in the playoffs
@@GoatedAtNFS what window, every year LJ healthy we are a top 5 seed. He’s only lost once to the NFC & only has losing records vs KC & Pittsburgh. That window stuff is irrelevant, we just gotta execute in the playoffs simple & run the ball.
This is why you need to capitalize on these kinds of opportunities because there’s no telling or guarantee that you will get back in this same situation with this same roster and coaching staff with the no.1 seed
The offensive roster, that he was playing with, this past season, was the most explosive roster, loaded with the most talent, that the Ravens have EVER had. If he can't do it with THIS group??
Yeah Lamar had a great statistical season his first MVP year. This year it was simply not the case. I think Lamar may have changed the precedence in his second MVP. This is the first time he didn’t have anywhere near the better stats for MVP and yet he won. This is probably a year it would’ve been better to have a non Qb like Christian Mccafrey or Tyreek Hill win the award. This actually could open Pandora’s box where we aren’t giving MVPs out based on hard statistical data, logic, and facts but instead are going off of eyeballs, emotions, and feelings.
What he do in the playoffs? Oh that’s right choke as the 1 seed. In two wins, same as Lafraud, Baker got 10 tds to 3 picks. Lafraud got 6 tds and 6 picks. Baker better than Lafraud.
@@susanrodriquez3757eyeballs said Josh Allen won the MVP. Emotions and feelings are being bought and paid for by the billionaire classes woke agenda. Allen was never their selection, which is why he was vilified all season long with the ridiculous repetitive false turnover narrative. They were preparing it all season long to shaft Allen who is not in woke corporation's (ĺlike Disney's/ESPN's) plans.
@@tohsakamine Im glad you commented this cause they got the rush stats WRONG Lamar rushed for more yds 821 to Allens just over 500yds, dont believe everything you hear STUPID and it called Google
First of all, nobody has all the time in the world. 2nd of all, isn’t this a media voted award. The media has been hammering this since the Christmas Day game that Lamar was MVP and even before that! It’s all we heard on every show. “he’s winning his 2nd MVP”..who does that! His stats this season were not overwhelming. Thats why fans were outraged. Yall was going to make him the MVP no matter what. Congratulations 😂😂😂
@@strong5109Much harder for a QB to throw for 28 TDs back then. The defenses of today don't even compare to back then and I'm not one of those people that say how everything about sports back then was better. But when it comes to defense it definitely was much harder to score than today. Prime Peyton Manning today in his late 20s would have back to back back 50+ TD seasons and might even get to 60
Lamar had 55% of his teams TOT Tds and 71% of the teams yards.... Allen had 82% of the bills total TDs and 76% of the teams total yards. Also Josh Allen in 2023: Total TDs: 44 (1st) Rush TDs: 15 (1st, NFL Record) Total YDs: 4,830 (1st) Pass YDs: 4,306 (4th) QB Rush YDs: 524 (4th) Success Rate: 51.4 (2nd) EPA/Play: 0.23 (2nd) Total EPA: 136.1 (2nd) Pass EPA: 86.6 (4th) Rush EPA: 49.5 (1st) The MVP award is for the "Most Valuable Player" it's pretty obvious which is more valuable
@@oronmurphy3724 lmfao the copium is real. What I said is irrefutable facts and thats why there's "no debate" to you because you know my point shatters your bias.
@tohsakamine Well it's history now & neither of our opinions makes a difference. But what I will say if you know about team sports what Baltimore did in the AFC Championship game had NO LOOKS OF BEING A TEAM!! Argue that
So when it’s Lamar Skip is the one volunteering that "you could argue it’s the greatest start to a career ever" But when the same thing is said about Pat he gives the classic "hm hm huh huh" And I love my 2nd favorite player to watch after Tyreek.
Peyton Manning was in this same boat and I don’t remember saying he’ll never get over the top when he was 27. At this point people are either trolls, too stuck in their antiquated view and too proud to admit they’re wrong, or unfortunately there are people out there who don’t believe he can do it because of the way he looks. He will never fully escape all the BS people say about him even when he gets a Super Bowl.
Lamar won’t ever win a Super Bowl. He has a choking gene that some qb’s just seem to have. These qb stats are awful for mvp compared to other qb’s who won mvp the last 20 years. Manning is still talked about when comes to elite qb’s. Lamar won’t ever be. He’s one leg injury away from never being the same.
Facts. Lamar will win the superbowl. All the haters will take a break for a few months and then get back on their job, finding something new to hate this man for until he ends his HOF career lol 😂. Haters do what they do best
People like to talk about Purdy's ranking as a QB, but where does Lamar actually land? I don't even take him over Kurt Cousins if I want a ring. Lamar is really in the Goff-tier of QB's, but is treated like he's Mahomes.
I love Lamar, love watching him play and have been a huge fan of his since 2016 when he was a freshman at Louisville, but I gotta keep it real he didn’t show up in the AFC championship when it mattered most
I'm sorry but he (Lamar) is not the MVP. If he was such a great player, he would have taken advantage of the the defence limiting The Chiefs to 3 points in the second half. For me its like Aaron Rodgers. Regular season thrills only. Josh Allen did his part, but the Buffalo defence just was elite. CMC or Tyreek deserved it instead.
She was right though, when are you guys going to accept the fact that Lamar is a running back who can throw the ball just good enough to threaten the defense? Just accept it man 🤦🏾♂️
Lamar is a different kind of QB so his numbers will be different than more of a traditional QB. That said, that defenses still plan around making him throw the ball, and figure they can beat him that way, is a problem.
Irvin is talking about the two time “MVP” having to het a little better as a passer. I’ve never seen a more incomplete MVP. When Mahomes won his MVPs there was no question on his greatness or concerns about his development
His regular season wasn’t even impressive tho🤣😭average numbers,ain’t leading in no qb stats and had 1 amazing performance vs Miami?most fraudulent mvp winner I’ve ever seen lmao
@@twist4439 Curry won MVP averaging 24 PPG but it wasn’t because of stats that he won it was his impact Lamar’s impact in the regular season was greater than anyone
Well by that logic , burrow , Allen and everyone else besides mahomes In this era ain't elite because what do they have to show for it ? Lamar has hardware and pro bowls and all pros
Not all losses are equal. It matters on HOW you lose. They forced lamar to throw it all game and all i hear people say is "Run the ball", "wheres the run", "We are a running team". Thats why they lost.
This is as a complete a team as Lamar will get. If the brother can't get it done with this team he is NOT that dude! Your defense held the Chief to 17 points. Give Joe Burrow the same team and he is winning the chip.
So Zay flowers fumbling is Lamar’s fault ? This isn’t golf or tennis lol. The ravens always win at least 11 games a year with Lamar. They’ll be contending next year too.
@@Finnissee0122 No, but fumbling in your own territory or throwing a pick into triple coverage is his fault. Also not being able to throw guys open when he threw the 1 on 1 balls was his fault. Not being able to change/audible calls at the line to get his team into more successful positons (everyone keeps blaming the OC for not running, and nobody calls Lamar out for not changing ANYTHING at the line) is his fault too. He's very much one of the top reasons they lost the AFCCG.
I am going to help you out. Actually KC played 2nd half conservative because of a 2 score led. They just kept running the ball to keep it safe against a good defense. Giving the defense respect.That is what a good team does. If Flowers had scored, KC would have adjusted and went back to attack mode. The defense did not stop Mahomes from throwing to Kelce, KC and Reed stopped it.
.... Yeah, we mad because Lamar proved again that he's a QB that can't throw at an elite level. He's a running back that can throw the ball at a below avg level.
@@d.omoneychaser5112, the Chiefs Forced Lamar Jackson to play as a QB.... Before this loss the colts defense Forced Lamar to play as a QB, and so did the browns. All of those teams have a great run defenses. So I guess the key to beating the Ravens is forcing their quarterback to actually play as QB.... You can't even prove me wrong because that what happened lol
CMC should’ve got it especially since no qb stood out this season Lamar didn’t even break 4K yards nor 30 tds those aren’t mvp numbers ppl will asterisk this one further down the line
@@RIPToriyamaDBZokay then just say he got it cuz his team had the best record and most quality wins only reason there was another mvp on the 49ers cuz ppl always throw the qb in mix
BFD. He’s thrown for less than 3,000 yards in a season 4 times in his first 6 years. He’s only thrown 30 or more TDs in a year once. He’s 2-4 in the playoffs all time. Josh Allen has 61 more total TDs in the the same 6 years and 6,000 more total yards than LJ. Let’s see what Keshawn has to say about LJ after he turns 30 and he won’t be running the ball like he is now.
2,177 Pass Yards 481 Rush Yards 10 Pass TD 5 Rush TD 5 INT 99.1 RTG avg 57.8 QBR avg These are the stats for Lamars first 10 games. He was nowhere near MVP convo til the 9ers game. This is recency bias to the max. First MVP he deserved, but he was not the most valuable person to a team in the league just because he beat good teams. That defense helped carry. CMC is the sole reason for 75% of the 9ers wins this season with the exact same record. Lamar had a decent season as a player but a great record, however; that should not drjve the decision
Bro those are such below average stats lmao. Idk how someone can justify his mvp this yr at all. His overall stats aren’t MVP worthy. At this point they should change it to MVQ bcus for any other position to be considered they have to break the record at their position but a QB all they have to do is have a winning record with average stats lmao
We all know how this goes. But BIG CONGRATS TO A NFL GREAT! LAMAR JACKSON FOR WINNING ANOTHER 1!!! Never seen a wr throw the ball for 15k yards 125 touchdowns and rush for 5k yards and 29 rushing tds. Let the hate and the doubt continue.
Lamar moved his own goal posts. That's what great players do. They achieve more and are then held to a higher standard. It's not unfair to say that Lamar would check off a lot of boxes by making it and possibly winning a superbowl. Doesn't mean he's not great now because he is.
Lamar Jacksons 493 to CMC 197 (49 out of 50 votes), CMC didn’t get one first place vote for MVP, sure he was ribbed alright 😂😂😂😂 & you Lamar Jackson, Those 49er weapons that Purdy has (CMC, DEBO & KITTLES & that Fullback Juszczyk) He'd be in the Superbowl too- but Zay flowers will get better & the ravens will add to this team to improve
So key been saying all year “yea Dallas is winning and Dak is putting up numbers, but these are tests and wait till the playoffs come that’s when it matters” now all of a sudden for Lamar his playoff record doesn’t matter, it doesn’t distinguish his legacy blah blah blah
@@k1ngj89 Back to back afc championship games. He needs to stay healthy before he can do anything. People just love LJ and Allen and they haven’t done anything. LJ will get it done before Allen will. At the end of the day the AFC goes through KC unfortunately. It’ll be burrow or LJ before Allen, in my opinion.
@@jeffhallii7907 I disagree, I think everyone loves Allen & Burrow and give so much criticism on Lamar. First it was he wasn’t a QB. Leads league in passing td wins mvp. Then it’s can’t stay healthy, think burrow might have missed more games then him, then it’s can’t win in playoffs. Makes it to afc championship. I’m not saying Burrow & Allen aren’t great but give Lamar his flowers. I do agree that Burrow or LJ will win before Allen
Keyshawn can't say the real point out loud -- that culturally, Lamar is the blackest QB in the league. Even in this day and age, that bothers certain people, including those who call the shots marketing-wise.
12:58 In 16 games, Lamar had 821 rushing yards (5.5 per carry). In 17 games, Allen had 524 rushing yards (4.7 per carry). Allen had many more rushing TDs, however, as Lamar handed the ball to Gus Edwards inside the 5-yard line a ton of times.
Yes because Allen is the best goal line full back on his team, maybe top 3-5 in the whole league. Lamar not as good as Allen on the line and not the best in his team.
@@StudentOfLife365 Nothing silly about it, Lamar’s never shown that skill, his best rushing TD season is 7. I can just as easily say, well the reason Josh Allen only had 4300 pass yards is cause he let Cook run the ball for them sometimes, if he wanted too, he could have just thrown more and had 5000+ yards passing. You see how ridiculous it is to give people credit for stuff they didn’t do and have never done?
@@simongomez4544 Comparing Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson's careers, Lamar has a significantly higher career passer rating, a higher completion %, more yards gained per pass attempt, a higher passing TD %, and a lower INT %. Lamar has led the NFL in TD passes, is one of just two QBs to ever record multiple perfect passer ratings in the same season, and his TD-INT ratio of 125-45 is quite good.
Purdy was the real MVP. Ravens said we arent going to run and we are going to have the "MVP" win this game. The game was put in lamars hands and he choked again
Lamar deserves more criticism than Josh Allen. He has 2 MVP's and keeps coming up small in the playoffs. The higher the expectations the greater the fall.
Well don't worry as Lamar will always be criticized...it started before he even got into the NFL. We have to remember that it takes a team, and it starts with coaching. You can have the most talented team in the world but if the coaches do not know how to use those assets...you get the same results of losing. Everyone know there was something off with that AFC game but Harbs is getting one more shot and so we shall see.
Lamar beat the best teams in the regular season, led his team to #1 when NOBODY thought they would went against defined all odds during the regular season. So he’s the regular season mvp idiots. Anybody that says different is racist or don’t know football.
they clearly know little about football .. if lamar doesnt deserve it then who does? he lead the team ot the best record and lost two top rbs a top 3 tight end and was in a new offense with new players and in all the big games he dominated them im really sitting back confused on what ppl are watching
People hoot & holler that they don’t want to hear about how Purdy was barley drafted into the league (2 years ago..) but want to continue to talk about Lamar’s draft situation… 6 years ago.. he was still a 1st round pick 😂💀
When he doesn't score a TD, the Ravens are 2-1. When he scores only 1 TD, the Ravens are 4-1. Explain to me how he can be the league's MVP when his team goes 6-2 in games that he doesn't score, or only scores once
Lamar had 55% of his teams TOT Tds and 71% of the teams yards.... Allen had 82% of the bills total TDs and 76% of the teams total yards. Also Josh Allen in 2023: Total TDs: 44 (1st) Rush TDs: 15 (1st, NFL Record) Total YDs: 4,830 (1st) Pass YDs: 4,306 (4th) QB Rush YDs: 524 (4th) Success Rate: 51.4 (2nd) EPA/Play: 0.23 (2nd) Total EPA: 136.1 (2nd) Pass EPA: 86.6 (4th) Rush EPA: 49.5 (1st) The MVP award is for the "Most Valuable Player" it's pretty obvious which is more valuable
I would argue Allen has been more valuable to the Bills than Jackson was to the Ravens this season. Lamar only had 29 TDs this year that less than 2 per game. Allen had 44. When Lamar doesn't score a TD, the ravens are 2-1 (winning record) When Lamar only scores 1 TD, the ravens are 4-1 (winning record) Meanwhile Allen has scored a TD in every game. He only has 1 game with a single TD and the Bills lost. Long story short, the ravens don't need Lamar Jackson to be that good to win games. The Bills need Josh Allen to be the best player on the field to win. And I know Allen has a lot more turnovers. But Allen has 44 TDs to 22 turnovers (2.0 ratio). Lamar has 29 TDs and 13 turnovers (2.23 ratio). Similar ratios. And finally, yes the Ravens got the 1 seed, but the Bills were the 2 seed. The Ravens have the best defense was the league. The Bills defense was hospitalized and literally had most of their starters out by the end of the year. But Allen still carried them into the playoffs
The ravens didn’t have a 1k yard WR, a 1k yard RB , defense was banged up, and Andrews missed the last 6 weeks of the season. His best OT also missed like 6 games to and yet Lamar still got them to the #1 seed & beat 10 .500 teams. Half of those teams were in the playoffs. The stats don’t tell the whole story because he would have definitely had more tds if not for his back up RB getting all of those tds down on the goal line. Allen barely made the playoffs and threw 18 ints.
Lamar ran 5 times within the 5 yard line and got a combined 0 yards. He can't do what Allen did because he isn't as big or strong. They had basically the same number of carries in the redzone (33 vs 32), but Allen got more yards and more way TDs.
@@tonygotbars8835 Not counting Lamar, the Ravens ran for 1840 yards this year Not counting Josh, the Bills ran for 1688 yards. Take away the QB and the Ravens had a better rushing year than the Bills. Doesn't really matter if it comes from 1 RB or multiple
Lamar had 55% of his teams TOT Tds and 71% of the teams yards.... Allen had 82% of the bills total TDs and 76% of the teams total yards. Also Josh Allen in 2023: Total TDs: 44 (1st) Rush TDs: 15 (1st, NFL Record) Total YDs: 4,830 (1st) Pass YDs: 4,306 (4th) QB Rush YDs: 524 (4th) Success Rate: 51.4 (2nd) EPA/Play: 0.23 (2nd) Total EPA: 136.1 (2nd) Pass EPA: 86.6 (4th) Rush EPA: 49.5 (1st) The MVP award is for the "Most Valuable Player" it's pretty obvious which is more valuable
When Lamar won his first MVP the raved about his stats being the best with this one they talked about who he beat seems like they moved the post for him each time
Each time Lamar won a MVP was his first time in a new offense. They went from an offense designed for Joe Flacco to an offense redesigned for Lamar in Lamar first full season. Now an offense designed by a new OC and won another MVP. How many other QB has done that in NFL history?
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I think Lamar played amazing and a close lost last week. Maybe that was it. But I think it should have went to Dak Prescott or definitely CMC. CMC is like watching Ja Morant and Doncic
🤔💬Lamar jackson has not developed as a passer Enough. Yes he's had the mvp but the Fans vote on that I do not put a lot of stock in that!!! Sheduer Sanders is a better passer of the football and he is in college Lamar should be further along as a passer by now That's why they can only get so far in the playoffs You look at a guy Like jaylen hurts He has developed in a shorter amount of time As a passer then lamar jackson
“He got his bag, he may have not gotten it all guaranteed, but I guarantee you he’ll make it all”
Here we go with all the people saying what Lamar deserved 😂. If the players he goes against & coaches put him on that top tier level, that’s the only opinion I care about.
If that’s the only opinion you care about, why are you watching this video?
They have put Lamar in the top tier since he was drafted tbh. It's the national media who keep disrespecting that man
It was undeserved. Average stats lead the league in redzone turnovers led the league in fumbles & had a historically great defense
@@theblinkerx most redzone turnovers & fumbles where? Like I said if great defenders & other great QBs stamping him, that’s all you need to know about LJ8. Is he best right now? No but he’s top 4
@@theblinkerx same guy that said Herbert might be the 2nd best QB in the league without a playoff win 😂 stay contradicting y’all selves
Ppl forget that LJ did lead the league in passing touchdowns that first MVP
No one forgets. People just choose to ignore
With a rookie receiver. Back up right end and a bunch of other guys. Did have Odell but not 2015 Odell.
What did he do this year?
His first MVP season was amazing to watch and well deserved, this one not so much...
Exactly
People act like Lamar didn’t put his team in position to win he literally threw a bullet to Zay Flowers which was assumed a for sure touchdown but ended up a fumble on the goal line which costs Baltimore the game
Big fella needs to do something in playoffs though
He will.. wish it was this yr but yea
So does 30 other QBs who didn’t make it this year.
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@BetterThanYou-uj4cdLamar doesn’t have the #1 special teams and is the running game , his best 2 rbs were out but ok , guys like Allen had the #1 defense and did nothing
Casual
Lamar & the ravens beat the best teams all year that’s why he won mvp he had more statement games smh people slow
Dude, you are the slow one it is literally MVP, Most Valuable Player!! Ain't no f in way Lamar was the Most Valuable Player in the entire league, no f in way! The media has changed it to hey lets just give this award to the quarterback of the team with the best record. That is just stupid as f
@@rf5390 you don’t know football the ravens beat the most above .500 teams in nfl that broke the record lead by Lamar followed by the defense
@@ZOMBIELANDakaUSA still was the best team in the nfl no matter what you say Lamar is hard to beat he had to be off or his receivers are off or coaching he gone win a lot of superbowls
@@ZOMBIELANDakaUSA thank the refs & Zay & Taylor swift
@@yung4109the refs nor Swift held the Ravens to 10 pts, please stop the crying and excuses...Excuses lost Chargers, excuses lost Tenn, excuse lost Bills, excuses lost KC.
Dude stop it!
Tell me why they hate on purdy so much and it's only his first full season as a starter? Every thing keshawn said about Lamar, could be applied to Purdy
Was exactly what i was thinking
I say the same thing and he had more passing yards and TDs smh. I guess that's irrelevant
They dont like the under dog to win im a Steelers fan but i root for the under dog he was last qb picked and hea the 1 st out that class to win a conference champ and now playin in super bowl meanwhile we stuck with a 1 st round bust in Kenny pickett
@@michaelminor6974it’s all because he’s Mr irrelevant smh
@@oskinooaLamar is an underdog as well it’s just in a different package with different circumstances
Gotta get it done in the playoffs.
Every qb does. Not just Lamar. Have that same standard for Josh, Trevor, Herbert ect....
The same standard applies. Didn't say it didn't.@@BLACKSTONEPOET
@ismaelamaro7728 so how many times have you said "gotta get it done in the playoffs" in regards to other qbs? I see that alot towards Lamar but never towards burrow, Herbert, Josh or Trevor.
If either one of them won mvp, I'd be saying the same thing. Nothing personal against Lamar. I'm actually a big fan of his.@@BLACKSTONEPOET
@ismaelamaro7728 dope! That's good. This time should be about his achievements. Jackson always gets his achievements devalued by people interjection his short comings. That's cool as long as we're doing that for other qbs, which doesn't happen. Hopefully one day Jackson can get the same treatment as his counterparts.
Keyshawn needs a barber asap. His lineup looks like a trench warfare scenario
He and K D Go need to come to Atlanta to fix that
Fr he need the best barber in Harlem to try and save that hairline.
Lol😂😂😂😂
He lead the league in passing td his 1st MVP. What are you talking about
We talking bout 2023
Nobody talks about that .
@@isaiahh4108 Their actually talking about both his MVPs. Michael Irvin said he won his 1st mvp with his legs. Which is when he lead the league in passing TDS
@@k1ngj89don’t argue fools, they’re too foolish to realize logic.
@@k1ngj89 that’s why watching matters he threw a lot of redzone TDs which is still impressive but his passing TD output didn’t match his passing yard output he was definitely a better passer this year
Joe Flacco played in THREE AFC Championships and ONE SUPER BOWL in his first five years. Nobody sings his praises : (
Damn I didn't know that. Great take
Wrong skin color
Because Joe Flacco had ray Lewis ed reed t sizzle joe didn’t have to do much to win learn something
Neither did Lamar XD@@brandonmcdonald5091
@brandonmcdonald5091 Joe beat a Manning stacked Broncos team at Mile High Stadium en route to a SB. He made a clutch throw to send game to OT. Broncos won SB next season. Learn something.
As a huge RG3 fan, I'm all for Lamar since he was his student. I just hope he can get to that Super Bowl one day!
Lamar will never win a superbowl because he has kool-aid in his veins 😂
As a Redskins fan, Lamar being a student of RG3 is nothing to get excited about. RG3 didn't even UNDERSTAND how to slide. How the f does an athlete, much less a human being with a brain, not UNDERSTAND how to slide. You get down feet first and you slide. WTF is there to get confused about with that??? RG3 quite honestly is a f in idiot
@@Freerider93what that means?
@@Freerider93and whatever joke you attempting is whack af, stick to those amongst the trailer parks!
@@aaronconners5570 Either you Ice cold or you kool-aid. If you don't understand you're kool-aid 🤣
Lamar and barry sanders 2 best highlight tapes in HISTORY!
My only issue with the MVP is, Lamar wasn't in the MVP discussion for most of the season until the last 3 or 4 weeks. Dak, Purdy, Stroud played better and put up better stats. But congrats to Lamar, the pressure is definitely on him to get to the SB.
Lamar has been in the mvp conversation all season. When he blew out two nfc teams first in their division. Why are we acting surprised that a man blowing out the lions, Seahawks, 49ers, and dolphins is MVP. If this was Josh Allen people wouldn’t stop dickriding him.
@@janellewilson1702 Lamar numbers wasn't great (#11 in TD and #15 in yards). Purdy, Dak, Stroud, CMC and T. Hill was being talked about for most of the season. And J. Allen winning MVP would've been terrible because of his turnovers.
@@MansionLive the metrics are the only thing people can say. But if it was all about numbers why did 49 voters pick him. We gotta start seeing it’s not all about numbers it’s what you can produce. Dak had a crazy season but only beat a couple teams with a record above .500. Brock would’ve won mvp but completely demolished that when Lamar outshined him in his stadium, and purdy is not the best player on his team. Stroud was again demolished by Lamar two times. People have to start seeing the bigger picture. Lamar won mvp because he beat up on teams that people considered to be the best in the nfl.
@@MansionLiveJosh turnovers argument is so repetitive and lazy. That’s the only argument they repeat over and over. Yeah he’s not a game manager he has to do everything and takes chances. He’s the most valuable to his team
He's always been in the discussion cause he's black. Had CMC been black, he'd have won.
Cmon keyshawn, we always do that with every great QB, there will always be the next goal to reach, now that we know lamar was able to get to the AFC championship now we gotta see him get to the SB……….. thats how it works for every GREAT QB
Lamar Was Able to Get to AFCCG??...Lets Not Act Like Lamar Proved Something in Playoffs This Year...He Won "1" Game and Got Crushed The Next
he got to the AFC championship by beating a rookie QB on a team that was 3-13-1 the previous year. Not exactly proving anything major there
When in my comment did i say lamar proved something?……. I was referring to the comment keyshawn made about “the media” moving the goalpost with lamar……… what i mean is that every great QB needs to prove they can win it at the highest level……… yall gotta practica comprehensive reading
@@angelo_mdc7798 He Had 29 TDs & 18 Turnovers...MVP??...Crazy...He Does NOTHING in The Playoffs
@@jackwoods9604crushed? Y’all just be yapping. Zay flowers cost them that game. Also the gameplan. Y’all just wanna hold down Lamar Jackson
Heres a fun fact about QB MVPs. Every QB MVP has had at least 70% Or more of their teams Total TDs. Lamar had 55%. Hows that valuable?
Allen had 81%
Dak had 76%
Mahomes 73%
Stroud had 71%
Lamar isnt that valuable to ein MVP. Pretty obvious fact
think people need to realize Patrick Mahomes is the Tom Brady of this era and a lot of QBs like Lamar Jackson can have great regular seasons and not be able to get past Patrick Mahomes. only Joe Burrow and Tom Brady has
Mahomes is both Brady and manning at the same time in this era
lol it’s still early, Lamar not even 30 yet. & Lamar couldn’t get past the Chiefs Defense. KC just controlled time of possession
@@mbar7777😂 your delusional
@@Veracity7778 it doesn’t matter. the window is closing quick and the AFC is still stacked. the AFC North and/or South next year could have 3 teams in the playoffs
@@GoatedAtNFS what window, every year LJ healthy we are a top 5 seed. He’s only lost once to the NFC & only has losing records vs KC & Pittsburgh. That window stuff is irrelevant, we just gotta execute in the playoffs simple & run the ball.
This is why you need to capitalize on these kinds of opportunities because there’s no telling or guarantee that you will get back in this same situation with this same roster and coaching staff with the no.1 seed
The offensive roster, that he was playing with, this past season, was the most explosive roster, loaded with the most talent, that the Ravens have EVER had.
If he can't do it with THIS group??
in lamars first MVP, he led the league in passing TDs. Irving was too coked out to remember that
Yeah Lamar had a great statistical season his first MVP year. This year it was simply not the case. I think Lamar may have changed the precedence in his second MVP. This is the first time he didn’t have anywhere near the better stats for MVP and yet he won. This is probably a year it would’ve been better to have a non Qb like Christian Mccafrey or Tyreek Hill win the award. This actually could open Pandora’s box where we aren’t giving MVPs out based on hard statistical data, logic, and facts but instead are going off of eyeballs, emotions, and feelings.
What he do in the playoffs? Oh that’s right choke as the 1 seed. In two wins, same as Lafraud, Baker got 10 tds to 3 picks. Lafraud got 6 tds and 6 picks. Baker better than Lafraud.
@@susanrodriquez3757eyeballs said Josh Allen won the MVP. Emotions and feelings are being bought and paid for by the billionaire classes woke agenda. Allen was never their selection, which is why he was vilified all season long with the ridiculous repetitive false turnover narrative. They were preparing it all season long to shaft Allen who is not in woke corporation's (ĺlike Disney's/ESPN's) plans.
He'll enjoy that MVP on the couch
Right beside you
With 300milli.. healthy and with a beautiful family doing what he loves. Can you say that 😂😂😂
@@themack74 ouch my feelings. Please stop
Unfortunately he can't throw and catch the ball.. Oh wait he did that also.
lmao thats salt on the wound considering they played better than the chiefs in the afc champ and beat the 49ers in the regular season
He’s that guy
Lamar the truth
Lol..silly boi
Lamar is a dual threat QB you just cant look at his passing yds you have to look at both passing & rushing
And it still doesn’t beat the other 3-4 performances I would’ve chosen over him
Yet Allen was better at both lol
@@tohsakamine Im glad you commented this cause they got the rush stats WRONG Lamar rushed for more yds 821 to Allens just over 500yds, dont believe everything you hear STUPID and it called Google
@@themoneyman1752Allen had 15 rushing TDs most all time....
Easily the most underwhelming MVP season in the last decade, probably longer
Most mid year of football probably ever tbh
2022 as well
Must be a Panthers fan? Lol
This year reminded me of 92-2000 years numbers wise
Facts. Alot of big injuries. AR. Herbert. Richardson. Burrow. Watson. Cousins. Trashiest year in my 35 years on earth.
Herbert is trash
First of all, nobody has all the time in the world.
2nd of all, isn’t this a media voted award. The media has been hammering this since the Christmas Day game that Lamar was MVP and even before that! It’s all we heard on every show. “he’s winning his 2nd MVP”..who does that! His stats this season were not overwhelming. Thats why fans were outraged. Yall was going to make him the MVP no matter what. Congratulations 😂😂😂
MVP with 24 passing touchdowns & 5 rushing touchdowns like come on man
But when Peyton Manning won MVP with 28 total tds, nobody said anything🤔. Lamar wins it with 29 total tds now its a problem lmao
@@strong5109 When you combine his lack of touchdowns with his lack of yards, yes, it's a problem.
@@strong5109Much harder for a QB to throw for 28 TDs back then. The defenses of today don't even compare to back then and I'm not one of those people that say how everything about sports back then was better. But when it comes to defense it definitely was much harder to score than today. Prime Peyton Manning today in his late 20s would have back to back back 50+ TD seasons and might even get to 60
I Know right, its become a Political JOKE Award
@@sainttrunks1982 Political how?
Lamar has been under scrutiny since before day one in the nfl!! Should have been a 2X unanimous MVP
Hahahaha!!! You're hilarious....NOT! 😂😂😂
Lamar had 55% of his teams TOT Tds and 71% of the teams yards.... Allen had 82% of the bills total TDs and 76% of the teams total yards.
Also Josh Allen in 2023:
Total TDs: 44 (1st)
Rush TDs: 15 (1st, NFL Record) Total YDs: 4,830 (1st)
Pass YDs: 4,306 (4th)
QB Rush YDs: 524 (4th)
Success Rate: 51.4 (2nd)
EPA/Play: 0.23 (2nd)
Total EPA: 136.1 (2nd)
Pass EPA: 86.6 (4th)
Rush EPA: 49.5 (1st)
The MVP award is for the "Most Valuable Player" it's pretty obvious which is more valuable
@@tohsakamine NO debate.
@@oronmurphy3724 lmfao the copium is real. What I said is irrefutable facts and thats why there's "no debate" to you because you know my point shatters your bias.
@tohsakamine Well it's history now & neither of our opinions makes a difference. But what I will say if you know about team sports what Baltimore did in the AFC Championship game had NO LOOKS OF BEING A TEAM!! Argue that
So when it’s Lamar Skip is the one volunteering that "you could argue it’s the greatest start to a career ever"
But when the same thing is said about Pat he gives the classic "hm hm huh huh"
And I love my 2nd favorite player to watch after Tyreek.
The media treats Lamar like the special ed kid in class
It's because he's black
Because if you criticize him your a racist
If that’s the case what that tell you about yo qb 😂
@@dariuswhite2148it’s a lot of prejudice people because the way he talks and his image of just being hisself that’s what it says!
@@aaronconners5570* himself. Hisself isn’t English
Peyton Manning was in this same boat and I don’t remember saying he’ll never get over the top when he was 27. At this point people are either trolls, too stuck in their antiquated view and too proud to admit they’re wrong, or unfortunately there are people out there who don’t believe he can do it because of the way he looks. He will never fully escape all the BS people say about him even when he gets a Super Bowl.
Lamar won’t ever win a Super Bowl. He has a choking gene that some qb’s just seem to have. These qb stats are awful for mvp compared to other qb’s who won mvp the last 20 years. Manning is still talked about when comes to elite qb’s. Lamar won’t ever be. He’s one leg injury away from never being the same.
COMPLETELY different players.
So you are saying that Lamar is as good of a passer as Manning? Is that really what you are saying?
Lamar is not in the same breathe as Payton manning
@@terih9411 breath**
Facts. Lamar will win the superbowl. All the haters will take a break for a few months and then get back on their job, finding something new to hate this man for until he ends his HOF career lol 😂. Haters do what they do best
People like to talk about Purdy's ranking as a QB, but where does Lamar actually land? I don't even take him over Kurt Cousins if I want a ring. Lamar is really in the Goff-tier of QB's, but is treated like he's Mahomes.
Until Lamar quits choking in the playoffs and actually does something impressive in the post season, I don't want to hear how "great" he is.
2 time MVP
@@saynomoremedia7463 Playoff FAILURE
This is the same as embiids MVP season just really didn’t deserve it but it is a good story.
His first MVP he led the league in passing. It’s not about legs or arms. It’s whole of body. Why differentiate? He’s the next evolution of QB.
Lamar is a game manager bruh. No ability to come from behind.
@@Freerider93 🤡
He’s not the next evolution of NFL QBs.
Minshew is@@kaekae1782
If he led the league then and isn’t top 5 this year how is he the evolution. Seems like regression even tho he had better weapons this year
Just call it the Best QB award, CMC had a much better season
He’s quickly becoming the James Harden of the NFL. Great regular season player but a no-show choker in the playoffs.
I love Lamar, love watching him play and have been a huge fan of his since 2016 when he was a freshman at Louisville, but I gotta keep it real he didn’t show up in the AFC championship when it mattered most
I'm sorry but he (Lamar) is not the MVP. If he was such a great player, he would have taken advantage of the the defence limiting The Chiefs to 3 points in the second half. For me its like Aaron Rodgers. Regular season thrills only. Josh Allen did his part, but the Buffalo defence just was elite. CMC or Tyreek deserved it instead.
Where's that lady who said Lamar isn't "quarterbacky enough?? I haven't seen a clip of her since
She was right though, when are you guys going to accept the fact that Lamar is a running back who can throw the ball just good enough to threaten the defense? Just accept it man 🤦🏾♂️
24 tds 3100 yds and 0 points in the second half of afc championship game is “throwing it at an incredible level”??
If they don't say that they'll be called haters lol
3600 yards passing, 821 rushing 29 total tds
Well said MR. Irvin👋🏾👋🏾👋🏾👋🏾
Has the same amount of MVPs as he has playoff wins...
Lamar is a different kind of QB so his numbers will be different than more of a traditional QB.
That said, that defenses still plan around making him throw the ball, and figure they can beat him that way, is a problem.
He can't get it done when it matters.
Well done. Rate him. Hopefully, his luck will turn in the playoffs ASAP
MVP is a vote, Super Bowl is a ring. Which one actually matters?
Affirmative action MVP. If a woman played in the league, they'd make her MVP. Anything goes when it comes to broaden the audience and make more money.
Irvin is talking about the two time “MVP” having to het a little better as a passer. I’ve never seen a more incomplete MVP. When Mahomes won his MVPs there was no question on his greatness or concerns about his development
64 QBR, 3680 passing yds, 750 rushing yds, 29 total TDs, gets you the MVP???? Smh
MY MVPPPP💜💜‼️
Not deserving stat wise. Just bc the ravens were thr no. 1 seed, shouldn't mean he's an automatic winner of it.
Can’t wait for the lazy “qb award” narrative
It’s a regular season award
His regular season wasn’t even impressive tho🤣😭average numbers,ain’t leading in no qb stats and had 1 amazing performance vs Miami?most fraudulent mvp winner I’ve ever seen lmao
@@twist4439 Curry won MVP averaging 24 PPG but it wasn’t because of stats that he won it was his impact
Lamar’s impact in the regular season was greater than anyone
He has had the 1st seed twice and laid an egg.
But y’all want Dak to win a SB his numbers are better than Lamar. Everyone making excuses for Lamar but bash Dak I’m so confused
Lamar Jackson; Elite Athelete.
NOT Elite QB
Well by that logic , burrow , Allen and everyone else besides mahomes In this era ain't elite because what do they have to show for it ? Lamar has hardware and pro bowls and all pros
NOWAY HE IS MVP
So glad this season is almost over
Straight facts!
Not all losses are equal. It matters on HOW you lose. They forced lamar to throw it all game and all i hear people say is "Run the ball", "wheres the run", "We are a running team". Thats why they lost.
This is as a complete a team as Lamar will get. If the brother can't get it done with this team he is NOT that dude! Your defense held the Chief to 17 points. Give Joe Burrow the same team and he is winning the chip.
Facts
So Zay flowers fumbling is Lamar’s fault ? This isn’t golf or tennis lol. The ravens always win at least 11 games a year with Lamar. They’ll be contending next year too.
@@Finnissee0122 No, but fumbling in your own territory or throwing a pick into triple coverage is his fault. Also not being able to throw guys open when he threw the 1 on 1 balls was his fault. Not being able to change/audible calls at the line to get his team into more successful positons (everyone keeps blaming the OC for not running, and nobody calls Lamar out for not changing ANYTHING at the line) is his fault too. He's very much one of the top reasons they lost the AFCCG.
I am going to help you out. Actually KC played 2nd half conservative because of a 2 score led. They just kept running the ball to keep it safe against a good defense. Giving the defense respect.That is what a good team does.
If Flowers had scored, KC would have adjusted and went back to attack mode. The defense did not stop Mahomes from throwing to Kelce, KC and Reed stopped it.
@@Finnissee0122Yes it is his fault, loser always lose no matter how. His two interceptions were killer too, don't forget that.
Great segment fellas
LAMAR WILL WIN A SUPERBOWL I PROMISE U, I GUARANTEE IT!!!! 💯
When mahomes retires 😂
YALL MADDD😂 LAMAR💜💜
.... Yeah, we mad because Lamar proved again that he's a QB that can't throw at an elite level. He's a running back that can throw the ball at a below avg level.
your gassed that narrative has been disproven years ago.@@gOD_SmackED
@@gOD_SmackEDok Brady😂
@@d.omoneychaser5112, the Chiefs Forced Lamar Jackson to play as a QB.... Before this loss the colts defense Forced Lamar to play as a QB, and so did the browns. All of those teams have a great run defenses. So I guess the key to beating the Ravens is forcing their quarterback to actually play as QB....
You can't even prove me wrong because that what happened lol
@@gOD_SmackED go head keep chirping mean while He was the best Mvp of the szn!!! Y’all can call him whatever he does shiii his wayy on the field you 🤡
Great point on us needing to see Lamar in those commercials now too...not just Gronk, Mahomes and Kelce no more💯😎🖤
Lamar’s probably the least marketable 2xMVP ,at the Quarterback position,of all time.
CMC should’ve got it especially since no qb stood out this season Lamar didn’t even break 4K yards nor 30 tds those aren’t mvp numbers ppl will asterisk this one further down the line
There's no other MVP candidate on Lamar team. And Lamar beat the brakes off of San Fran
@@RIPToriyamaDBZokay then just say he got it cuz his team had the best record and most quality wins only reason there was another mvp on the 49ers cuz ppl always throw the qb in mix
@BetterThanYou-uj4cd Yeah cause Lamar didn't put 300 yards and 2 TDS on y'all head sure
@BetterThanYou-uj4cd And he finished as the MVP Nuff said
@@RIPToriyamaDBZthe defense did
Lamar was struggling but his defense put him in excellent field position
BFD. He’s thrown for less than 3,000 yards in a season 4 times in his first 6 years. He’s only thrown 30 or more TDs in a year once. He’s 2-4 in the playoffs all time. Josh Allen has 61 more total TDs in the the same 6 years and 6,000 more total yards than LJ. Let’s see what Keshawn has to say about LJ after he turns 30 and he won’t be running the ball like he is now.
It should have been Christian Mccaffrey
2,177 Pass Yards
481 Rush Yards
10 Pass TD
5 Rush TD
5 INT
99.1 RTG avg
57.8 QBR avg
These are the stats for Lamars first 10 games. He was nowhere near MVP convo til the 9ers game. This is recency bias to the max. First MVP he deserved, but he was not the most valuable person to a team in the league just because he beat good teams. That defense helped carry. CMC is the sole reason for 75% of the 9ers wins this season with the exact same record. Lamar had a decent season as a player but a great record, however; that should not drjve the decision
Bro those are such below average stats lmao. Idk how someone can justify his mvp this yr at all. His overall stats aren’t MVP worthy. At this point they should change it to MVQ bcus for any other position to be considered they have to break the record at their position but a QB all they have to do is have a winning record with average stats lmao
Lamar won mvp putting up Alex Smith numbers because he was on the team with the best record.
Without Lamar they 8-9 team with elite defense
@@amariben2129 So what? Lamar isn't good enough bruh...how many times does he have to show it for you to believe it?
Exactly
@@amariben2129 I wonder what the bills would have been without Josh Allen 🤔
@@Freerider93 I said without Lamar they’d be 8-9 without elite
piggy backing off the D. Must be nice. They just lowered the standard of being MVP
There's a lot of QB's in the league that would win the Superbowl with the team Lamar has around him. That's all I'm gonna say.
Lamar was like 15th in passing and had 11 fumbles. I had him on my fantasy team and he only had a few great games. This MVP is fraudulent.
We all know how this goes. But BIG CONGRATS TO A NFL GREAT! LAMAR JACKSON FOR WINNING ANOTHER 1!!! Never seen a wr throw the ball for 15k yards 125 touchdowns and rush for 5k yards and 29 rushing tds. Let the hate and the doubt continue.
He’s definitely a running back bro..
He won cause he is black, racist
I prefer Flacco's Super Bowl MVP over both Lamar's 2 Regular Season MVPs
I mean it's a ring so obviously but your comment wasn't needed
Nobody cares what you like stop watching football
I'm just gonna call it what is, most people hating are racist
Lmao yall so nice to each other 😂
Real talk his numbers are nothing like that 1st mvp season they need to stop it
Lamar moved his own goal posts.
That's what great players do. They achieve more and are then held to a higher standard. It's not unfair to say that Lamar would check off a lot of boxes by making it and possibly winning a superbowl. Doesn't mean he's not great now because he is.
It's not enough, that Jackson won with mediocre numbers, but you guys start whining that it wasn't unanimous
Lamar Jacksons 493 to CMC 197 (49 out of 50 votes), CMC didn’t get one first place vote for MVP, sure he was ribbed alright 😂😂😂😂 & you Lamar Jackson, Those 49er weapons that Purdy has (CMC, DEBO & KITTLES & that Fullback Juszczyk) He'd be in the Superbowl too- but Zay flowers will get better & the ravens will add to this team to improve
FACTS
So key been saying all year “yea Dallas is winning and Dak is putting up numbers, but these are tests and wait till the playoffs come that’s when it matters” now all of a sudden for Lamar his playoff record doesn’t matter, it doesn’t distinguish his legacy blah blah blah
Burrow has been to the mountain top, didn’t win but has gone bell to bell.
And what has he done since?
@@k1ngj89 Back to back afc championship games. He needs to stay healthy before he can do anything. People just love LJ and Allen and they haven’t done anything. LJ will get it done before Allen will. At the end of the day the AFC goes through KC unfortunately. It’ll be burrow or LJ before Allen, in my opinion.
@@jeffhallii7907 I disagree, I think everyone loves Allen & Burrow and give so much criticism on Lamar. First it was he wasn’t a QB. Leads league in passing td wins mvp. Then it’s can’t stay healthy, think burrow might have missed more games then him, then it’s can’t win in playoffs. Makes it to afc championship. I’m not saying Burrow & Allen aren’t great but give Lamar his flowers. I do agree that Burrow or LJ will win before Allen
@@k1ngj89 That’s fair. I’m not in the camp “he’s a wr or can’t play qb” those people can kick rocks.
Burrow is a part timer hes always hurt
Keyshawn can't say the real point out loud -- that culturally, Lamar is the blackest QB in the league.
Even in this day and age, that bothers certain people, including those who call the shots marketing-wise.
12:58 In 16 games, Lamar had 821 rushing yards (5.5 per carry). In 17 games, Allen had 524 rushing yards (4.7 per carry). Allen had many more rushing TDs, however, as Lamar handed the ball to Gus Edwards inside the 5-yard line a ton of times.
Yes because Allen is the best goal line full back on his team, maybe top 3-5 in the whole league. Lamar not as good as Allen on the line and not the best in his team.
@@ojogbaneamedu2501 You're silly thinking Lamar cant get in the Endzone every goal line attempt!! Lets be real!! Lamar isnt selfish!!
@@StudentOfLife365 Nothing silly about it, Lamar’s never shown that skill, his best rushing TD season is 7. I can just as easily say, well the reason Josh Allen only had 4300 pass yards is cause he let Cook run the ball for them sometimes, if he wanted too, he could have just thrown more and had 5000+ yards passing. You see how ridiculous it is to give people credit for stuff they didn’t do and have never done?
Guess it would matter if they were running back, but you even discussing this proves why Lamar is not a great QB , maybe a great running back
@@simongomez4544 Comparing Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson's careers, Lamar has a significantly higher career passer rating, a higher completion %, more yards gained per pass attempt, a higher passing TD %, and a lower INT %. Lamar has led the NFL in TD passes, is one of just two QBs to ever record multiple perfect passer ratings in the same season, and his TD-INT ratio of 125-45 is quite good.
Purdy was the real MVP. Ravens said we arent going to run and we are going to have the "MVP" win this game. The game was put in lamars hands and he choked again
Ravens nation 💜🖤🐦⬛
😂
Ray Lewis is not coming out of retirement
Stop it!!!!!🙄
I'm happy for Lamar! All he needs to do now is a a super bowl 🏈
Lamar deserves more criticism than Josh Allen. He has 2 MVP's and keeps coming up small in the playoffs. The higher the expectations the greater the fall.
He made it far than josh Allen
@@amariben2129 and not to mention he was injured two years
@@cowboys4life636 all I’m saying he most valuable to his team
Well don't worry as Lamar will always be criticized...it started before he even got into the NFL. We have to remember that it takes a team, and it starts with coaching. You can have the most talented team in the world but if the coaches do not know how to use those assets...you get the same results of losing. Everyone know there was something off with that AFC game but Harbs is getting one more shot and so we shall see.
Correct, Josh has been way better in the playoffs, yet he's treated way harsher them Lamar.
Lamar beat the best teams in the regular season, led his team to #1 when NOBODY thought they would went against defined all odds during the regular season. So he’s the regular season mvp idiots. Anybody that says different is racist or don’t know football.
they clearly know little about football .. if lamar doesnt deserve it then who does? he lead the team ot the best record and lost two top rbs a top 3 tight end and was in a new offense with new players and in all the big games he dominated them im really sitting back confused on what ppl are watching
Josh Allen was a total Beast I would given the MVP to Josh or Patrick M or T Hill
People hoot & holler that they don’t want to hear about how Purdy was barley drafted into the league (2 years ago..) but want to continue to talk about Lamar’s draft situation… 6 years ago.. he was still a 1st round pick 😂💀
It’s not best stats award it’s Most Valuable Player well deserved
When he doesn't score a TD, the Ravens are 2-1. When he scores only 1 TD, the Ravens are 4-1.
Explain to me how he can be the league's MVP when his team goes 6-2 in games that he doesn't score, or only scores once
@@Bruski76159the other players are scoring because the defense is so scared of Lamar. His impact goes beyond stats. Watch games and not box scores
Lamar had 55% of his teams TOT Tds and 71% of the teams yards.... Allen had 82% of the bills total TDs and 76% of the teams total yards.
Also Josh Allen in 2023:
Total TDs: 44 (1st)
Rush TDs: 15 (1st, NFL Record) Total YDs: 4,830 (1st)
Pass YDs: 4,306 (4th)
QB Rush YDs: 524 (4th)
Success Rate: 51.4 (2nd)
EPA/Play: 0.23 (2nd)
Total EPA: 136.1 (2nd)
Pass EPA: 86.6 (4th)
Rush EPA: 49.5 (1st)
The MVP award is for the "Most Valuable Player" it's pretty obvious which is more valuable
@@Bruski76159 it’s called impact on games I rather my QB give me 200 yards and we win then 400 yards and lose like Dak
The MVP should go to the best player in the NFL regardless of position, not the 4th best quarterback.
That’s my QB! 🖤💜🖤💜
Im sorry about that
@BetterThanYou-uj4cdI can’t wait until purdy asks for 60 million and turn on him😂😂. Y’all gone be crying fire Shannahan after Sunday Lmaoo.
I would argue Allen has been more valuable to the Bills than Jackson was to the Ravens this season.
Lamar only had 29 TDs this year that less than 2 per game.
Allen had 44.
When Lamar doesn't score a TD, the ravens are 2-1 (winning record)
When Lamar only scores 1 TD, the ravens are 4-1 (winning record)
Meanwhile Allen has scored a TD in every game.
He only has 1 game with a single TD and the Bills lost.
Long story short, the ravens don't need Lamar Jackson to be that good to win games. The Bills need Josh Allen to be the best player on the field to win.
And I know Allen has a lot more turnovers. But Allen has 44 TDs to 22 turnovers (2.0 ratio). Lamar has 29 TDs and 13 turnovers (2.23 ratio). Similar ratios.
And finally, yes the Ravens got the 1 seed, but the Bills were the 2 seed. The Ravens have the best defense was the league. The Bills defense was hospitalized and literally had most of their starters out by the end of the year. But Allen still carried them into the playoffs
The ravens didn’t have a 1k yard WR, a 1k yard RB , defense was banged up, and Andrews missed the last 6 weeks of the season. His best OT also missed like 6 games to and yet Lamar still got them to the #1 seed & beat 10 .500 teams. Half of those teams were in the playoffs. The stats don’t tell the whole story because he would have definitely had more tds if not for his back up RB getting all of those tds down on the goal line. Allen barely made the playoffs and threw 18 ints.
Lamar ran 5 times within the 5 yard line and got a combined 0 yards. He can't do what Allen did because he isn't as big or strong.
They had basically the same number of carries in the redzone (33 vs 32), but Allen got more yards and more way TDs.
@@Bruski76159 that’s true but James cook rushed for over 1k yards, nun of Lamar RBs even got close to that.
@@tonygotbars8835 Not counting Lamar, the Ravens ran for 1840 yards this year
Not counting Josh, the Bills ran for 1688 yards.
Take away the QB and the Ravens had a better rushing year than the Bills. Doesn't really matter if it comes from 1 RB or multiple
Lamar had 55% of his teams TOT Tds and 71% of the teams yards.... Allen had 82% of the bills total TDs and 76% of the teams total yards.
Also Josh Allen in 2023:
Total TDs: 44 (1st)
Rush TDs: 15 (1st, NFL Record) Total YDs: 4,830 (1st)
Pass YDs: 4,306 (4th)
QB Rush YDs: 524 (4th)
Success Rate: 51.4 (2nd)
EPA/Play: 0.23 (2nd)
Total EPA: 136.1 (2nd)
Pass EPA: 86.6 (4th)
Rush EPA: 49.5 (1st)
The MVP award is for the "Most Valuable Player" it's pretty obvious which is more valuable
dak had a better regular season and the MVP is a regular season reward
Lost to the Eagles, Cardinals, Bills, and 49ers and Dolphins. All playoff teams except Cardinals.
It isn't just Dak that had a better regular season.
@@kifley19how many other QBs lost to good teams?
When Lamar won his first MVP the raved about his stats being the best with this one they talked about who he beat seems like they moved the post for him each time
But he didn't!!! He didn't beat a winning team! And the Dolphins don't count because they didn't and couldn't either!!
The crazy thing is the chiefs went up 17-7 at halftime and ran the football the rest of the game
My boy Action Jackson
You mean Floppin' Jackson 🤣
Each time Lamar won a MVP was his first time in a new offense. They went from an offense designed for Joe Flacco to an offense redesigned for Lamar in Lamar first full season. Now an offense designed by a new OC and won another MVP. How many other QB has done that in NFL history?
The Chiefs feared Lamar’s legs more than they did his arm so that’s why they neutralized that running game
The chiefs didn’t stop them from running the ball. The ravens just chose not to.
Right😂😂
@@Finnissee0122 Because the Chiefs neutralized it plus the Ravens went away from the running game
i like undisputed they really are fair and tell facts not just stat based bs
I love Lamar Jackson but CMC not getting 1 mvp vote is ridiculous
He did get alot of MVP votes, he finished in second place. He just didn't get any 1st place votes.
Lamar had the number 1 defense ffs. Did he finish top 10 in a qb stat other than rushing?