I really hope the NFL realizes that EA isn't taking this game any further. Give 2K a shot at a football sim, make EA actually compete instead of being the only game out there, and releasing hot garbage every year.
Give ANYONE a shot to make an NFL licensed game. I don't know why people think 2K is the only company that could make a good football game. Do you guys want a good football game or a good NFL game? We may get a good football game with no NFL license again. Would that make you guys upset? I think it would and that's why this community will never change.
@EmmanuelTurner245225 Yeah, it's called Maximum Football, and it comes out in the fall. I'm not saying it's gonna be great, but the latest looks have been promising. I'll definitely be checking it out.
@@JJ9er We've had multiple opportunities to support other football games. We didn't support the game with the best on the field experience ever seen. I doubt we'd back anything else.
First off, Pat Mahomes ATTEMPTED the horizontal pass 4 years ago and it was incomplete. Why EA felt the need to put that in the years game is beyond me. 2nd everything they are promoting this year was in Madden 05. Stay on their necks Moody!
They sell highlight football, Pat made one all out attempt. Tyree and OBJ made two all out catches - Madden focused on those moments to put in the game over actual fundementals.
The problem with the throw is not the throw itself, but it was completely by accident. Mahomes didn't plan to dive, he was literally caught by his leg so he fell down and he just sent a prayer that wasn't answered. This could naturally occur in Madden had ea focused on a physics based engine enough to where we wouldn't need these animations, everything would happen organically, and believably.
@@RyanMoody21 unfortunately and just like MLPIceberg said, the highlight football sells. Look at the idea of YT even. The most viewed videos of the NFL aren't the X-O's of the game of football. It's the highlight videos of which most are broken plays and just players making great plays randomly cause of their improvised abilities and not their actual fundamentals.
I had over 1000 hours in ncaa 14 and I was still seeing animations I had never seen before, whereas with madden a couple of games and you'll have seen everything.
Maddens a money grab. They do not care about how we compete all they want is the money we spend on card packs that are totally overpriced. Its apay to lose game. You lose your money and time.
That's the consumers fault. I play Madden but they making an extra millions to billions because ain't no way they just making millions just to have keep the license
@@bdb7185"Its the consumers fault the game is bad". Yeah, you sound like another 13 year old Madden fanboy whose never touched an actual game in his life...
Like Madden 13 ago lol imagine this game from San Diego Studios and Sony : NFL the Draft 24 with Bryce Young on the cover and ALL the legends available in FA for franchise mode too .. commentary team of Jac Collinsworth and Idk Chris Simms 🤷♀️ .. man I’m old enough to remember when they had team records etc on Madden Games smh why is PS3 and Xbox 360 more advanced than the new ones when it comes to Madden ?
If 10% of the high profile players come out against Madden/stop putting their names in the game/ show themselves playing alternate football games on streaming services then that'll be the death nail.
Only answer is for them to relinquish that license. I have no faith in the masses collectively giving up on financially supporting a weak example of "Simulation" football although I believe that would send a clear message if their sales dropped according to the quality of their product
The problem is a lot of money isn't even coming from the game, the loss of sales would have to be through ultimate team. The only people who should spend money on ultimate team right now (assuming we want a better game) is the influencers since they can make money, its an investment for them, the average person should just support those guys & watch them rather than buy a copy, at least get it for free or heavily discounted.
i felt the same way about the stupid griddy they kept advertising in the last madden. they put so much time and effort into the animations that the actual gameplay suffers because of it
They have made celebrations such a focal point, letting us select them - then going with team options - then which ones got added. And it does nothing to the core gameplay experiance that is the real issue.
Unfortunately, there is nothing we can do to get EA to change. They don't care about the community and all they and the NFL care about, is money. As long as the content creators and other people continue to spend money every year on packs, EA will continue getting greedier
The only way to stop this is to stop buying it. Problem is, Madden is always one of the best-selling games period, each year. Either the exclusive license needs to go (unlikely) or people need to quit buying it!
@@ec5657 It isn't possible tbh, football gaming is screwed. Our only hope is maximum football and 2k's arcade game somehow opens the eyes of consumers which sparks something in them, and in turn makes the NFL start to weigh options at licensing. But hey, even though it's a long shot, we're in a way better spot than we were 4 years ago.
Stop buying this game you lemmings, who cares if it's the only NFL "simulation" it's an arcade pile of hobo smegma 😂haven't bought it in 7 years and I won't buy until they get back to their roots of the pre MUT era!! Sickening what they've done to our boy Madden smh
Few years ago I tried the game during the free play days. During the first game, the CPU Patrick Mahomes was looking backwards, threw the ball 60 yards down field, went through one of my defender's hands and another defender just basically died as the ball was coming that way, touchdown for the CPU. I uninstalled it right after that play.
Same thing with me, except I was against some 3rd string nobody and they passed THROUGH a sack for a 70+ yard touchdown pass. Oh and the player who caught it was actually out of bounds if you don't use college rules. I uninstalled immediately. Last time I played Madden was 4 years ago. Didn't buy, played because of the F2P weekend. Last Madden I bought was Year 2 of MUT way back in the day. Didn't play MUT, but got sick of it being advertized in my face when I wanted to play Franchise and Be-A-Pro.
I've never seen anything like this. They literally bring back old features and repackage them as new. Just beyond slothful. I buy Madden every 2-3yrs and the menus are the only thing that feel totally new. Thank you for talking about this.
It's a perfect strategy. By never getting things like DB/WR interactions down perfectly they can always use barely improving it as a bullet point every year. Additionally EA will NEVER give up the exclusive license willingly. The NFL needs to be pressured not in taking away the exclusive license from EA but going back to allowing multiple companies to create a game including EA. Competition creates quality. Even if the exclusive license went to another company and their game was good they'd get complacent with it eventually with it exclusively.
Good point. I’m starting to feel the same about MLB The Show. Even though Sony does not have the exclusive MLB license they are the only ones making a true simulation MLB game.
The biggest issue I have with madden is them adding features that are actually really good and then taking them away only to re add them later. They are also missing quality of life features that they had back on ps2/Xbox. Like pause menu formation subs. And formation subs for special teams. As well is the 9/10 man tackle animations from madden 10. A lot of this things that made gameplay a little better is gone
Here’s what I don’t understand, is a no look pass really gonna throw off an opposing player that can’t see your eyes because they’re looking at the whole screen? No, right? Or does it even fool the CPU defense?
I've been playing Madden Football since 96 and you're absolutely right. They give us the same game every year just with updated rosters and a very few new features. I've bought this game every year and I knew what I was getting, just a rehash of the last one, and the one before it and so on. All I do now is set up the rosters the way I want, start a franchise and sim watch every damn game and I've been doing that since Madden 20. Not anymore! I refuse to pay $59+ dollars for a game I just watch. I've gave them enough money and it's time I stop. Great vid dude.
What I haven't been getting is why does Madden still got the "I- Formation" in the game? I can't remember the last time I've seen a team run it in a real game.
You must not watch football. Several teams run a variation of it. Teams who don't have a fullback usually put a TE back there. This is the 1st time I've heard someone complain about a formation being in the game.
Same crap every year people quit buying this game your getting the same game every year. Add a couple things an charge 70 bucks for it. Quit giving them your money for the same game.
okay then address the elephant in the room: Wild Card Football, some people think that was the nfl football game 2k was working on. done by the devs named Saber who made playground 2k and WWE 2K Battlegrounds. but this was made using the NFLPA licenses instead of the NFL license and no 2k, whys that? was the NFL the No fun league again the spoiled the pot as always? or did 2k do away with the football game and the playground series entirely and saber decided to develop it on their own and work a deal with the NFLPA? something is not making sense here.
Yup the NFL should require every player to use their character in game and they should legally be allowed to deny or accept how they are being portrait and if an over whelming amount say no then the game gets pushed back or taken from ea entirely
@@RyanMoody21 so no-one has balls to stand up for themselves? Sorry but I'd be embarrassed to be in these games especially being any player other than a receiver or quarter back and even then
Played a guy yesterday. Game starts, he comes out in DOLLAR 2-Man first 5 plays vs 5 different formations. I came out in a heavy package, 6 lineman 1 wr and he still called Dollar. I instantly stop playing and message him. These kids are so brainwashed, he thought dollar two man meant he was good. Not understanding OP man, or OP dollar vs the run. SMH 🤦🤦🤦 this game promotes idiocy
No look passes are actually pretty common in todays nfl, Mathew Stafford did it in his super bowl, Joe burrow and all the top guys do it, Daniel Jones has done it. with no way to activate it and no real purpose in madden(real life the defense is trying to read the qb so it can throw off safeties or linebackers especially in zone coverage) it kinda just seems like something that’s gonna add an element of “my opponent is getting bailed out by the game rn”
Don't forget Fitzpatrick's "no-look" pass when a defender was grabbing his facemask a few years ago. Dunno why that's not in the game when AI ignore penalties all the time.
My problem with the no look pass is when my opponent will do it 10 straight times, and complete 8 of them, even tough it’s a very low percentage throw, happens maybe 1-2 times a game, and in emergency situations only. Just like how Mahomes, Jackson, Allen, Hurts etc… can complete 75% of their passes while running full speed to the sideline, throw a 30 yard strike, across their body, while doing a fadeaway motion. It’s just not even in the realm of realistic play.
To be fair, the QB position has grown alot the past 10 years and we have seen a huge advancement in the game. Madden did need to change with the times - but they really havent all that much.
Not to mention what makes me the most mad is the small stuff like at halftime on online mutt you still can't change your players X Factor's if you forget to do it before the game. Literally all year, but if something is wrong in the store they fix in a day. Plus nothing in that store should be more than 10 dollars.
We can't complain that the old games were better (which they were) but then criticize them for trying to add back in the features fans are asking for. Maybe it's not new, but they are adding back things we've asked for.
Because the fans bitch about it for a decade then EA thinks they can get away with trying to make the fans pay more for something THAT SHOULD BE IN THE GAME ALREADY. Madden has been bare-bones for more than a decade because EA knew morons would pay for nothing anyway.
True, but I still want them back and glad some features are coming back. I'm not saying they deserve a medal, but they are starting to listen because of the terrible press the last 4 or so games have gotten. Especially 22 and 23. Hopefully, they get the bugs fixed and continue to add bacl features we love as well as come up with new features. I have been very critical of the last few games. Didn't play 23 past September. Fingers crossed they made a playable game this time.
Competition breeds excellence. EA has no viable competition in the nfl space because they have a monopoly over the rights to put players and teams in their game. Monopolies are never good for the consumer
Yeah I agree with you on a lot of what you say a man and what frustrates me the most is that people that do RUclips for a living and only deal with Madden aren't understanding the fact of what they're getting away with I never thought I'd say that 2K was better than EA but their golf game BLOWS TIGER out of the WATER.
I just want to know if the gameplay is going to be fixed. Are my corners going to actually cover the recievers? Or is 75 overall normal development Daniel Jones going to complete 37 straight passes because the game refuses to have real world stats? Am I going to get a pass interference penalty for hitting the receiver after the ball hits the ground but I got the penalty because I triggered the hit animation BEFORE the ball hit the ground? Am I going to be able to challenge an interception that was called incomplete even though I clearly had two feet down and possession of the ball in bounds? Or because the animation had to finish playing out and the game has no logic... Will it be incomplete and unchallengeable? Will the CPU defensive end be able to continuously get around my RT regardless of how high my tackles rating is or how tired the DE is and get 7 sacks while my DE gets stonewalled continuously by a nobody at tackle even though he is an X factor and not tired? Will my recievers run wrong routes for no reason? Will my QB throw an inaccurate pass by 10 yards even though the wide receiver is standing right in front of him wide open by 5 yards? Will my corners be able to run the route before the reciever does or will they continue to let him go by so the QB can complete 37 straight passes? I can keep going. Madden is garbage. EA needs to wake up and pull their head out of their ass. Everything I listed has happened to me in game.
Ryan, of course most fans of this series don't have a long long history with this game. Madden is and always has been a game marketed to the masses because everyone like a little football. The sim community is 1% of the fanbase. The sim community wants a good football game regardless of where it comes from or if it's licensed. The rest of the Madden community isn't invested enough to care about the issues or could only see EA making football games because football = NFL. This divide is why we've been in the same predicament for over 20 years.
Last madden I played was 15. Got tired of the devs stripping features and being lazy, and ultimately delivering a shit product. All they want is for people to get addicted to ultimate team and to spend ludicrous amounts of money to have a good team, then do it all again a year later. It's shocking to me how much money people spend on these shit games.
Been saying this for years, and it will never get fixed or be better until EA loses the license. People need to stop buying the game for 1 year … NFL will immediately fix the issue
Haven’t bought a madden game since madden 20 and I’ll continue with that trend until ea loses its exclusive rights . The end of EAs contract is coming up soon and I imagine they’ll bring back all these game modes they took away just to save face in hopes they don’t lose their exclusive rights. They don’t give a shit about their game until it comes time for them to start losing money.
The only reason I’m buying madden 24 for this year is because of Josh Allen being on the cover. The fact that they’re selling two different covers for the same game and the more expensive one looking more cool and fun is also a issue for me. You are right though they keep selling us the same thing over and over claiming to have new features and graphics but only marginally so. The marketing is the same way to help solidify their claims with CGI graphics that don’t match in game. I wish they would just one year take the time and effort to make the game really good for the next 10 years because that seems to be the trend for them.
Wow... really? Buying it because some douche is on the cover? Stop it. That's a pathetic excuse to buy ANY game. If you are gonna spend your real money on things, at least wait to buy it used and when it's patched...
At this point, I have to assume EA does this just in spite of their community. The entire time people have complained about the lack of realism, yet EA's response is to implement unrealistic features based off once in a lifetime, near superhuman moments that aren't typical in the game of Football.
How many idiots in this comment section year after year come in here and complain while agreeing with you and still buy the game. To me they are worse than the people who defend the game. I guarantee there is proly 1%of us who actually support you and never touch the game at all and that Is depressing
4:50 it's not that i forget, it's just that i have no other choice. I am a football enthusiast and i only play 1v1 with my friends or i start franchise with them. and i have no ther choice but to buy this game which is really annoying. i wish the nfl would give up the license and give it to either 2k or a small game company who actually cares about their product
I gave up Madden with Madden 20. Thought 19 was bad and thought I’d give it one more shot. The fumbles were ridiculous. Turned fumbling down to 10 on the sliders and lost 4 fumbles in the first half the next game. Took it back and bought fifa, haven’t played Madden since.
Madden used to be my annual tradition from the first one on the Sega genesis up until a few years ago. I simply can’t anymore no matter how much I’m itching for some football
I’ve been buying the game since Madden 16 and all of the games were the same. I buy it to play with the new players but im done. No real football at all, and they dont even have most of the players real face scans. I’ve had multiple players with the same face on my team at once…its pathetic.
Crazy thing is a lot of today madden players would talk shit if these things wasn’t in the game. I remember when ppl complained about 2k because hair didn’t move and players didn’t have armpit hair. The days of fundamentals and real simulation sports are slim because all sports been transitioning to highlights/arcade high scoring style of a game. Even the rules have been changed to force that style of play. I use to complain about madden til I seen them madden tournaments and realized how they promote something so broken and horrible and have no effort to fix it year after year. Ppl tune in to watch a person win a belt by not even playing real football just abilities, plays, and gameplay that are horribly broken
It really does suck..I grew up playing madden from ps2 days. Loved building my team with franchise. Last madden I bought was madden 17. My team killed madden for franchise players. Not only did EA throw in them catch animations but also hopped on the wildcat bandwagon as well if I'm not mistaken...
If you really want to help the Madden series out and make it better, don't buy the game. If enough people refuse to buy it they will lose money and until then they wont realize any thing is wrong with their game.
Not buying the game resulted in EA giving away hundreds of thousands of games for free and free trial weekends. They will create the engagment at this point, no matter what.
@@RyanMoody21 you are correct about that. But that does not mean even if its free that you have to play it. By not playing it free or cheap still sends a bigger statement. truth that we both know is they don't care about us (the consumer) and they show it every year.
EA includes that Mahomes diving throw to have the CPU screw the human player. Look at who is on the cover, of Madden 24,Josh Allen. In Madden 24, you'll be blitzing Allen, he'll hurdle you while behind the line of scrimmage all the while throw a perfect 40yrd td pass that is the final play of the game and the human player ends up losing because of it.
Haven’t played since Madden 10 with Fitzgerald and Polamalu, I have tried 20 with my cousin in practice mode lobbing fly routes, after seeing broken tackles and other dumb-ass animations, I politely declined to play a actual game 🤦🏿♂️
Also if refs is a new feature they should put them getting in the way or U running them over or something would be nice where u gotta watch out for them or give them abilities like One ref calls 90% of calls right and add bad refs that’s misses calls in as well would bring a different element to the game
Imagine this many NFL players speaking out against the ONLY simulation football game on the market! If the NFL weren’t so intent on gaining money from their partnership with EA, this would be a huge red flag to them
I played every football game up till 2020. I gave up on EA. Every year i hope they actually make a good football sim . Maybe next year...but probably not. I notice EA is also murdering Ufc game as well.
This generation has never known a good Madden game and this is why EA can put out garbage year after year. The people that grew up on early Maddens are no longer their target market. We are now the parents that will buy the game for our kids because they enjoy it, while we know its ass.
Over the years, I have commented on seven of Ryan’s videos, and this is another excellent addition. 1. He’s absolutely right about the X’s & O’s part of the game. It would be nice to have that matter more. It would also be nice if there weren’t “broken plays” in the game where you couldn’t stop it with a Defense already in the game certain routes every year or just uncoverable and less you manually cover them yourself. And there’s always two of them on one play that play just as OP . 2. My biggest issue wasn’t even necessarily the X and O standpoint. Although that certainly is crucial mine with the actual gameplay in control of your players, I quit playing the game all together three years ago when the animations were tied together so badly that you could have better position a bigger player with a higher jump rating, and they would not try to catch the ball. Instead they would go into a canned animation And it would have to finish. You didn’t have control of your player anymore. He got really bad on user catching, and it got worse on tackling as well. But I can tell you, there was nothing worse than telling your player to go” aggressive catch” but instead of doing that they would flail at the ball uselessly, because the animation had to complete the sequence As I’ve said, many times, I went from somebody who has played this game since he was a kid in 1990 all the way to someone who’s would take his hard earned money as a young adult on release day and buy the game at midnight in the mid 2000’s It literally went from one of my favorite hobbies to in 2015 stop playing online competitively and then three years ago I think or maybe madden 21 I haven’t even played the game since then. Much like Ryan I would love for them to get back to basics and just make a good game
OBJ makes a one handed catch - put it in the game Mahomes no look pass - put it in the game AB walks off the field mid-game - put it in the... oh wait, maybe not When will the lemmings stop buying this game on a few plays that they can put in the game???
I played a lot of madden 20 and still will every once in a while. I don’t recall ever having any no look passes, and tbh it wouldn’t surprise me that they lied then. I may have to admit to something g that I don’t really watch the trailers so I don’t remember all of them, but honestly I don’t care about all the animations and all that, I just wasn’t smooth gameplay that won’t bug out when I try to do simple X’s and O’s. I don’t know if madden will be any better but the way 22 was, I didn’t play much of 23. And after seeing this trailer I don’t know if I really want to play 24.
Honestly at this point there is only two things that can be done. 1. Remove the exclusive NFL License from EA's clutches, (which the NFL refuses to do) 2. Not only stop buying Madden but all their other sh*t games as well.Then and only then will EA get the hint that the majority of the gaming community is sick and tired of their broken and cash grab products. It needs to hurt their wallet in order for them to change their ways.
I haven't played Madden in several years. Haven't bought it since the MUT's second year. I know someone who does buy it every year, ignoring the "haters" and suffers because of it.
This would be the first video Ive spoke on the Madden 20 to Madden 24 "No Look Pass" being sold. Also first video I had spoke on Kelce's comments - which has been mentioned to me for weeks. Did you miss the topics of the video?
Not defending EA by any means, but can you blame them? We keep complaining, yet we all keep buying. I’m guilty as well. I purchase during Black Friday when it’s half off. Until we start talking with our wallets they will keep the same business model.
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I really hope the NFL realizes that EA isn't taking this game any further. Give 2K a shot at a football sim, make EA actually compete instead of being the only game out there, and releasing hot garbage every year.
Give ANYONE a shot to make an NFL licensed game. I don't know why people think 2K is the only company that could make a good football game. Do you guys want a good football game or a good NFL game? We may get a good football game with no NFL license again. Would that make you guys upset? I think it would and that's why this community will never change.
The NFL does not care as long has they are making money
@EmmanuelTurner245225 Yeah, it's called Maximum Football, and it comes out in the fall. I'm not saying it's gonna be great, but the latest looks have been promising. I'll definitely be checking it out.
@@JJ9er We've had multiple opportunities to support other football games. We didn't support the game with the best on the field experience ever seen. I doubt we'd back anything else.
It’s selfish of EASPORTS to hog up the lane they definitely need competition making NFL LICENSE games with no coin toss in the game
First off, Pat Mahomes ATTEMPTED the horizontal pass 4 years ago and it was incomplete. Why EA felt the need to put that in the years game is beyond me. 2nd everything they are promoting this year was in Madden 05. Stay on their necks Moody!
They sell highlight football, Pat made one all out attempt. Tyree and OBJ made two all out catches - Madden focused on those moments to put in the game over actual fundementals.
@@RyanMoody21 Because that's what sells, not traditional X&O football. Unfortunately... this is the end for traditional football.
The problem with the throw is not the throw itself, but it was completely by accident. Mahomes didn't plan to dive, he was literally caught by his leg so he fell down and he just sent a prayer that wasn't answered.
This could naturally occur in Madden had ea focused on a physics based engine enough to where we wouldn't need these animations, everything would happen organically, and believably.
@@MLPIcebergwe don't have many options to know that
@@RyanMoody21 unfortunately and just like MLPIceberg said, the highlight football sells. Look at the idea of YT even. The most viewed videos of the NFL aren't the X-O's of the game of football. It's the highlight videos of which most are broken plays and just players making great plays randomly cause of their improvised abilities and not their actual fundamentals.
I had over 1000 hours in ncaa 14 and I was still seeing animations I had never seen before, whereas with madden a couple of games and you'll have seen everything.
Where are the developers who made that game and why aren't they on the Madden team?
@@prettytony9375 they were prolly so overworked they just disapered like if they were thanos snapped
In ncaa 14, I saw my Receiver fall down in a rain game running his route, I jump back and was shocked. And the Mud on the players look soo good.
Absolutely true. I have NCAA 13 and it’s amazing relative to diversity of animations.
Thats was crack bro 💯
Maddens a money grab. They do not care about how we compete all they want is the money we spend on card packs that are totally overpriced. Its apay to lose game. You lose your money and time.
Damn man almost sounds like your describing a smart business lol….
That's the consumers fault. I play Madden but they making an extra millions to billions because ain't no way they just making millions just to have keep the license
@@bdb7185"Its the consumers fault the game is bad". Yeah, you sound like another 13 year old Madden fanboy whose never touched an actual game in his life...
It's a free to play model plus 70 bucks. Genius but because it's us morons keep buying
Not just money and time, we never get what we want.
EA: "I was made for this. And now I'm rebuilt and rewired."
Me: Go home, EA. You are drunk.
you got the whole squad laughing bro
@@Tactical_Nuke0 got me laughing go hate somewhere else
@@MrSucc-fp7rt calm down buddy
@@Tactical_Nuke0 you calm down random person on the internet
@@MrSucc-fp7rt calm down you Ryan moody fan 😂
NFL license needs to be revoked from EASPORTS
Agreed.
Like Madden 13 ago lol imagine this game from San Diego Studios and Sony : NFL the Draft 24 with Bryce Young on the cover and ALL the legends available in FA for franchise mode too .. commentary team of Jac Collinsworth and Idk Chris Simms 🤷♀️ .. man I’m old enough to remember when they had team records etc on Madden Games smh why is PS3 and Xbox 360 more advanced than the new ones when it comes to Madden ?
Madden is the clear example that lack of competition is really bad for consumers.
When you depend on animations to determine the outcome, the game is just playing itself. 😅
Limited user control
@@moalston4203 that's why their main selling point each year is "more control", because we don't have much control to begin with.
If 10% of the high profile players come out against Madden/stop putting their names in the game/ show themselves playing alternate football games on streaming services then that'll be the death nail.
They won't though because they don't care enough. Or EA pays them to shut up.
@@MLPIceberg true. Wishful thinking.
Only answer is for them to relinquish that license. I have no faith in the masses collectively giving up on financially supporting a weak example of "Simulation" football although I believe that would send a clear message if their sales dropped according to the quality of their product
The problem is a lot of money isn't even coming from the game, the loss of sales would have to be through ultimate team. The only people who should spend money on ultimate team right now (assuming we want a better game) is the influencers since they can make money, its an investment for them, the average person should just support those guys & watch them rather than buy a copy, at least get it for free or heavily discounted.
@@EagleZtoTheGravelet ea make a separate ultimate team video game and let 2k make the simulation game
i felt the same way about the stupid griddy they kept advertising in the last madden. they put so much time and effort into the animations that the actual gameplay suffers because of it
They have made celebrations such a focal point, letting us select them - then going with team options - then which ones got added. And it does nothing to the core gameplay experiance that is the real issue.
Unfortunately, there is nothing we can do to get EA to change. They don't care about the community and all they and the NFL care about, is money.
As long as the content creators and other people continue to spend money every year on packs, EA will continue getting greedier
The only way to stop this is to stop buying it. Problem is, Madden is always one of the best-selling games period, each year. Either the exclusive license needs to go (unlikely) or people need to quit buying it!
@@ec5657 It isn't possible tbh, football gaming is screwed. Our only hope is maximum football and 2k's arcade game somehow opens the eyes of consumers which sparks something in them, and in turn makes the NFL start to weigh options at licensing.
But hey, even though it's a long shot, we're in a way better spot than we were 4 years ago.
It’s football. Idk what gameplay changes y’all want
There is something we all can do to get our point across...DONT BUY THE GAME!
Stop buying this game you lemmings, who cares if it's the only NFL "simulation" it's an arcade pile of hobo smegma 😂haven't bought it in 7 years and I won't buy until they get back to their roots of the pre MUT era!! Sickening what they've done to our boy Madden smh
What's sad the young ppl don't know what a good madden is i have been playing madden from the start its night and day difference from ps2 era till now
Few years ago I tried the game during the free play days. During the first game, the CPU Patrick Mahomes was looking backwards, threw the ball 60 yards down field, went through one of my defender's hands and another defender just basically died as the ball was coming that way, touchdown for the CPU. I uninstalled it right after that play.
Amen to that, brother
Same thing with me, except I was against some 3rd string nobody and they passed THROUGH a sack for a 70+ yard touchdown pass. Oh and the player who caught it was actually out of bounds if you don't use college rules. I uninstalled immediately. Last time I played Madden was 4 years ago. Didn't buy, played because of the F2P weekend. Last Madden I bought was Year 2 of MUT way back in the day. Didn't play MUT, but got sick of it being advertized in my face when I wanted to play Franchise and Be-A-Pro.
I've never seen anything like this. They literally bring back old features and repackage them as new. Just beyond slothful. I buy Madden every 2-3yrs and the menus are the only thing that feel totally new. Thank you for talking about this.
It's a perfect strategy. By never getting things like DB/WR interactions down perfectly they can always use barely improving it as a bullet point every year.
Additionally EA will NEVER give up the exclusive license willingly. The NFL needs to be pressured not in taking away the exclusive license from EA but going back to allowing multiple companies to create a game including EA. Competition creates quality. Even if the exclusive license went to another company and their game was good they'd get complacent with it eventually with it exclusively.
Good point. I’m starting to feel the same about MLB The Show. Even though Sony does not have the exclusive MLB license they are the only ones making a true simulation MLB game.
Honestly, Madden needs a boycot like the one going on with Budweiser right now.
Well I’m sure the NFL will be gay again soo .. 🤔 they’ll probably march Dylan out there at Halftime or something I’m sure
Madden has been dead for me since Madden 2013. Madden was better on the PS2 and PS3. Another year without my money. 😂
The biggest issue I have with madden is them adding features that are actually really good and then taking them away only to re add them later. They are also missing quality of life features that they had back on ps2/Xbox. Like pause menu formation subs. And formation subs for special teams. As well is the 9/10 man tackle animations from madden 10. A lot of this things that made gameplay a little better is gone
The NFL sold us out with the exclusive license.
Here’s what I don’t understand, is a no look pass really gonna throw off an opposing player that can’t see your eyes because they’re looking at the whole screen? No, right? Or does it even fool the CPU defense?
I've been playing Madden Football since 96 and you're absolutely right. They give us the same game every year just with updated rosters and a very few new features. I've bought this game every year and I knew what I was getting, just a rehash of the last one, and the one before it and so on. All I do now is set up the rosters the way I want, start a franchise and sim watch every damn game and I've been doing that since Madden 20. Not anymore! I refuse to pay $59+ dollars for a game I just watch. I've gave them enough money and it's time I stop. Great vid dude.
What I haven't been getting is why does Madden still got the "I- Formation" in the game? I can't remember the last time I've seen a team run it in a real game.
Very true.
You must not watch football. Several teams run a variation of it. Teams who don't have a fullback usually put a TE back there. This is the 1st time I've heard someone complain about a formation being in the game.
Bro acts like a no look pass is gonna change the game 😂😂😂
If EA actually had competition madden would probably be a much better game than what we've seen every year
If it had competition they would struggle to sell a game at this point.
Same crap every year people quit buying this game your getting the same game every year. Add a couple things an charge 70 bucks for it. Quit giving them your money for the same game.
okay then address the elephant in the room: Wild Card Football, some people think that was the nfl football game 2k was working on. done by the devs named Saber who made playground 2k and WWE 2K Battlegrounds. but this was made using the NFLPA licenses instead of the NFL license and no 2k, whys that? was the NFL the No fun league again the spoiled the pot as always? or did 2k do away with the football game and the playground series entirely and saber decided to develop it on their own and work a deal with the NFLPA? something is not making sense here.
I have always said this, this will be the ONLY way the NFL will step in. Is if NFL players start boycotting and complaining about the game
Agreed, glad to see Jason taking a stand.
Maximum Football 23 can’t get here fast enough. 😓😓😓😓
Probably the best thing EAIDS SPORTS did to me was literally console ban me permanently, life kinda improved since then....FACTS
EAIDS SPORTS 😂😂😂 I love it thanks for the laugh bro
Yup the NFL should require every player to use their character in game and they should legally be allowed to deny or accept how they are being portrait and if an over whelming amount say no then the game gets pushed back or taken from ea entirely
They actually do this. EA has been known to give free game copies to allow rights to be used. Jeff Saturday spoke on it.
@@RyanMoody21 so no-one has balls to stand up for themselves? Sorry but I'd be embarrassed to be in these games especially being any player other than a receiver or quarter back and even then
😂😂😂😂 bout f-in time.. someone above my pay grade say something damn.. 😂😂
I quit playing Madden almost 10 years ago. I miss NCAA college football, but if it comes back, it's gonna fall into the Madden $#!t.
We need more people like Jason kelce
He is good and a very smart player that understand football at the highest levels and knows what the refs are doing
Played a guy yesterday. Game starts, he comes out in DOLLAR 2-Man first 5 plays vs 5 different formations. I came out in a heavy package, 6 lineman 1 wr and he still called Dollar. I instantly stop playing and message him. These kids are so brainwashed, he thought dollar two man meant he was good. Not understanding OP man, or OP dollar vs the run. SMH 🤦🤦🤦 this game promotes idiocy
"I think a lot of it is... You forget
.. what they've sold you. You forget what they've marketed to you.". 😂😂😂😂😂😂 That took me out. True though.
As always you're right on the money! Time to hand over the reigns to someone who cares about the game of football!
Thanks Richard. Yes, its time to see what other companys can actually do with a NFL game.
Wishful thinking
No look passes are actually pretty common in todays nfl, Mathew Stafford did it in his super bowl, Joe burrow and all the top guys do it, Daniel Jones has done it. with no way to activate it and no real purpose in madden(real life the defense is trying to read the qb so it can throw off safeties or linebackers especially in zone coverage) it kinda just seems like something that’s gonna add an element of “my opponent is getting bailed out by the game rn”
Very true, its a reaction from the QB - not something they set out to do on a play.
Don't forget Fitzpatrick's "no-look" pass when a defender was grabbing his facemask a few years ago. Dunno why that's not in the game when AI ignore penalties all the time.
Anytime they talk about new animations I always assume that's all they have worked on
The real nfl rules are so slanted against the defense it makes Mahomes and most Qbs better than what they really are
EXACTLY football is getting to a point where it's your 5 best playmakers outside your qb and oline and build your offense around that
My problem with the no look pass is when my opponent will do it 10 straight times, and complete 8 of them, even tough it’s a very low percentage throw, happens maybe 1-2 times a game, and in emergency situations only.
Just like how Mahomes, Jackson, Allen, Hurts etc… can complete 75% of their passes while running full speed to the sideline, throw a 30 yard strike, across their body, while doing a fadeaway motion.
It’s just not even in the realm of realistic play.
Im keep it honest , EA and their creators of this game are all scumbags , for what they been doin for the past few years , is disturbing
This further shows their targeted demographic, people that don't want simulation and don't ask for realism.
Maximum football will be out soon
I remember a time in Madden when a "no-look" pass was either picked off or way incomplete.
To be fair, the QB position has grown alot the past 10 years and we have seen a huge advancement in the game. Madden did need to change with the times - but they really havent all that much.
At this point madden is madden just like 2k is 2k with no competition they will copy and paste every year until the next game console.
U did a great job explaining the bs .with proof! If i could thumbs up the vid twice i would. Great job ryan
Not to mention what makes me the most mad is the small stuff like at halftime on online mutt you still can't change your players X Factor's if you forget to do it before the game. Literally all year, but if something is wrong in the store they fix in a day. Plus nothing in that store should be more than 10 dollars.
Going back to the halfime show they had before, it should have really been built upon.
We can't complain that the old games were better (which they were) but then criticize them for trying to add back in the features fans are asking for. Maybe it's not new, but they are adding back things we've asked for.
The issue being, we never asked for those things to be removed.
Because the fans bitch about it for a decade then EA thinks they can get away with trying to make the fans pay more for something THAT SHOULD BE IN THE GAME ALREADY. Madden has been bare-bones for more than a decade because EA knew morons would pay for nothing anyway.
True, but I still want them back and glad some features are coming back. I'm not saying they deserve a medal, but they are starting to listen because of the terrible press the last 4 or so games have gotten. Especially 22 and 23. Hopefully, they get the bugs fixed and continue to add bacl features we love as well as come up with new features. I have been very critical of the last few games. Didn't play 23 past September. Fingers crossed they made a playable game this time.
Competition breeds excellence. EA has no viable competition in the nfl space because they have a monopoly over the rights to put players and teams in their game. Monopolies are never good for the consumer
EA plugged both it's ears on everything you just mentioned
There are even paying attention there don't plug there ears they know what the fluff there doing they have an agenda as everyone does so yea
Yeah I agree with you on a lot of what you say a man and what frustrates me the most is that people that do RUclips for a living and only deal with Madden aren't understanding the fact of what they're getting away with I never thought I'd say that 2K was better than EA but their golf game BLOWS TIGER out of the WATER.
It very well could, but its hard to cover more than 2 sports to be honest.
I just want to know if the gameplay is going to be fixed. Are my corners going to actually cover the recievers? Or is 75 overall normal development Daniel Jones going to complete 37 straight passes because the game refuses to have real world stats? Am I going to get a pass interference penalty for hitting the receiver after the ball hits the ground but I got the penalty because I triggered the hit animation BEFORE the ball hit the ground? Am I going to be able to challenge an interception that was called incomplete even though I clearly had two feet down and possession of the ball in bounds? Or because the animation had to finish playing out and the game has no logic... Will it be incomplete and unchallengeable? Will the CPU defensive end be able to continuously get around my RT regardless of how high my tackles rating is or how tired the DE is and get 7 sacks while my DE gets stonewalled continuously by a nobody at tackle even though he is an X factor and not tired? Will my recievers run wrong routes for no reason? Will my QB throw an inaccurate pass by 10 yards even though the wide receiver is standing right in front of him wide open by 5 yards? Will my corners be able to run the route before the reciever does or will they continue to let him go by so the QB can complete 37 straight passes? I can keep going. Madden is garbage. EA needs to wake up and pull their head out of their ass. Everything I listed has happened to me in game.
Ryan, of course most fans of this series don't have a long long history with this game. Madden is and always has been a game marketed to the masses because everyone like a little football. The sim community is 1% of the fanbase. The sim community wants a good football game regardless of where it comes from or if it's licensed. The rest of the Madden community isn't invested enough to care about the issues or could only see EA making football games because football = NFL. This divide is why we've been in the same predicament for over 20 years.
I agree the fanbase lifespan is short - but thats mainly because of how bad the product is.
Last madden I played was 15. Got tired of the devs stripping features and being lazy, and ultimately delivering a shit product. All they want is for people to get addicted to ultimate team and to spend ludicrous amounts of money to have a good team, then do it all again a year later. It's shocking to me how much money people spend on these shit games.
People know that it’s the same crap every year, we just don’t have options, and people love football.
Been saying this for years, and it will never get fixed or be better until EA loses the license. People need to stop buying the game for 1 year … NFL will immediately fix the issue
Haven’t bought a madden game since madden 20 and I’ll continue with that trend until ea loses its exclusive rights . The end of EAs contract is coming up soon and I imagine they’ll bring back all these game modes they took away just to save face in hopes they don’t lose their exclusive rights. They don’t give a shit about their game until it comes time for them to start losing money.
I remember referees in Madden 2000,
I use to always knock them over, it was so fun. 😂
The only reason I’m buying madden 24 for this year is because of Josh Allen being on the cover. The fact that they’re selling two different covers for the same game and the more expensive one looking more cool and fun is also a issue for me. You are right though they keep selling us the same thing over and over claiming to have new features and graphics but only marginally so. The marketing is the same way to help solidify their claims with CGI graphics that don’t match in game. I wish they would just one year take the time and effort to make the game really good for the next 10 years because that seems to be the trend for them.
Wow... really? Buying it because some douche is on the cover? Stop it. That's a pathetic excuse to buy ANY game. If you are gonna spend your real money on things, at least wait to buy it used and when it's patched...
Im hoping this is a troll, they have done multiple covers in the past.
Like on a scale of nuclear rage how bad do you believe the madden curse
Ryan, you legend! Never stop exposing EA! Still love your breakdown videos after all these years
I cannot wait until Madden 54 when EA finally give us a different and current NFL game causing Ryan Moody having to retire his youtube channel.
At this point, I have to assume EA does this just in spite of their community. The entire time people have complained about the lack of realism, yet EA's response is to implement unrealistic features based off once in a lifetime, near superhuman moments that aren't typical in the game of Football.
Everything EA doin in M24 should've been in a patch on 23.
I appreciate you saying same game 13-24 because I've noticed the same thing
How many idiots in this comment section year after year come in here and complain while agreeing with you and still buy the game. To me they are worse than the people who defend the game. I guarantee there is proly 1%of us who actually support you and never touch the game at all and that Is depressing
4:50 it's not that i forget, it's just that i have no other choice. I am a football enthusiast and i only play 1v1 with my friends or i start franchise with them. and i have no ther choice but to buy this game which is really annoying. i wish the nfl would give up the license and give it to either 2k or a small game company who actually cares about their product
I gave up Madden with Madden 20. Thought 19 was bad and thought I’d give it one more shot. The fumbles were ridiculous. Turned fumbling down to 10 on the sliders and lost 4 fumbles in the first half the next game. Took it back and bought fifa, haven’t played Madden since.
Madden used to be my annual tradition from the first one on the Sega genesis up until a few years ago. I simply can’t anymore no matter how much I’m itching for some football
I’ve been buying the game since Madden 16 and all of the games were the same. I buy it to play with the new players but im done. No real football at all, and they dont even have most of the players real face scans. I’ve had multiple players with the same face on my team at once…its pathetic.
Bro did they remove the goal post net?
Ver well could have. Its changed alot over the years.
Crazy thing is a lot of today madden players would talk shit if these things wasn’t in the game. I remember when ppl complained about 2k because hair didn’t move and players didn’t have armpit hair. The days of fundamentals and real simulation sports are slim because all sports been transitioning to highlights/arcade high scoring style of a game. Even the rules have been changed to force that style of play. I use to complain about madden til I seen them madden tournaments and realized how they promote something so broken and horrible and have no effort to fix it year after year. Ppl tune in to watch a person win a belt by not even playing real football just abilities, plays, and gameplay that are horribly broken
EA sports should just rely on making a quality arcade game, give up the simulation license to the NFL and just do what you do best make an arcade game
I have no doubt EA could make a great arcade game - that would sell well. Why they dont focus on that instead of "Sim" is beyond me.
@@RyanMoody21 that’s the question of the year I guess
It really does suck..I grew up playing madden from ps2 days. Loved building my team with franchise. Last madden I bought was madden 17. My team killed madden for franchise players. Not only did EA throw in them catch animations but also hopped on the wildcat bandwagon as well if I'm not mistaken...
If you really want to help the Madden series out and make it better, don't buy the game. If enough people refuse to buy it they will lose money and until then they wont realize any thing is wrong with their game.
Not buying the game resulted in EA giving away hundreds of thousands of games for free and free trial weekends. They will create the engagment at this point, no matter what.
@@RyanMoody21 you are correct about that. But that does not mean even if its free that you have to play it. By not playing it free or cheap still sends a bigger statement. truth that we both know is they don't care about us (the consumer) and they show it every year.
EA includes that Mahomes diving throw to have the CPU screw the human player. Look at who is on the cover, of Madden 24,Josh Allen. In Madden 24, you'll be blitzing Allen, he'll hurdle you while behind the line of scrimmage all the while throw a perfect 40yrd td pass that is the final play of the game and the human player ends up losing because of it.
You know damn well 2k could come in and make a better game within a year if they got the chance.
They know what those rights are worth
Haven’t played since Madden 10 with Fitzgerald and Polamalu, I have tried 20 with my cousin in practice mode lobbing fly routes, after seeing broken tackles and other dumb-ass animations, I politely declined to play a actual game 🤦🏿♂️
Also if refs is a new feature they should put them getting in the way or
U running them over or something would be nice where u gotta watch out for them or give them abilities like
One ref calls 90% of calls right and add bad refs that’s misses calls in as well would bring a different element to the game
The thing is - nobody ask for them to be removed. EA did that all by themselves then expect to be praised when adding them back in.
Imagine this many NFL players speaking out against the ONLY simulation football game on the market! If the NFL weren’t so intent on gaining money from their partnership with EA, this would be a huge red flag to them
It is a huge red flag, but the revenue they get from EA far outweighs that.
I played every football game up till 2020. I gave up on EA. Every year i hope they actually make a good football sim . Maybe next year...but probably not. I notice EA is also murdering Ufc game as well.
Most people have short term memory loss that's why madden ea keeps pulling this crap
This generation has never known a good Madden game and this is why EA can put out garbage year after year. The people that grew up on early Maddens are no longer their target market. We are now the parents that will buy the game for our kids because they enjoy it, while we know its ass.
Don’t know what your problem with mahomes is
Over the years, I have commented on seven of Ryan’s videos, and this is another excellent addition.
1. He’s absolutely right about the X’s & O’s part of the game. It would be nice to have that matter more. It would also be nice if there weren’t “broken plays” in the game where you couldn’t stop it with a Defense already in the game certain routes every year or just uncoverable and less you manually cover them yourself.
And there’s always two of them on one play that play just as OP .
2. My biggest issue wasn’t even necessarily the X and O standpoint.
Although that certainly is crucial mine with the actual gameplay in control of your players, I quit playing the game all together three years ago when the animations were tied together so badly that you could have better position a bigger player with a higher jump rating, and they would not try to catch the ball. Instead they would go into a canned animation And it would have to finish. You didn’t have control of your player anymore.
He got really bad on user catching, and it got worse on tackling as well.
But I can tell you, there was nothing worse than telling your player to go” aggressive catch” but instead of doing that they would flail at the ball uselessly, because the animation had to complete the sequence
As I’ve said, many times, I went from somebody who has played this game since he was a kid in 1990 all the way to someone who’s would take his hard earned money as a young adult on release day and buy the game at midnight in the mid 2000’s
It literally went from one of my favorite hobbies to in 2015 stop playing online competitively and then three years ago I think or maybe madden 21 I haven’t even played the game since then.
Much like Ryan I would love for them to get back to basics and just make a good game
OBJ makes a one handed catch - put it in the game
Mahomes no look pass - put it in the game
AB walks off the field mid-game - put it in the... oh wait, maybe not
When will the lemmings stop buying this game on a few plays that they can put in the game???
Do not stop Ryan... EA will listen at some point, or they won't and we will get 2K to do it 🤣
The deal is is most people are going to buy that game every single year no matter what they do so I stopped looking at what they added 10 years ago
Just out of curiosity, the NFL is a Business, so why only let one company make your product? That’s like footlocker only selling Nikes makes no sense.
They sold to the highest bidder and keep having that contract renew.
I just wait until it's free and patched at the end of the season. It's not worth buying anymore
😂😂😂😂
Next we gonna get “create your own plays” which was done years ago
You know it. Create a stadium is next too!
I played a lot of madden 20 and still will every once in a while. I don’t recall ever having any no look passes, and tbh it wouldn’t surprise me that they lied then. I may have to admit to something g that I don’t really watch the trailers so I don’t remember all of them, but honestly I don’t care about all the animations and all that, I just wasn’t smooth gameplay that won’t bug out when I try to do simple X’s and O’s. I don’t know if madden will be any better but the way 22 was, I didn’t play much of 23. And after seeing this trailer I don’t know if I really want to play 24.
Referee’s was in 18
But most of us will still buy it and complain until the monopoly is lifted by the NFL for EA giving us other options like 2k etc
Honestly at this point there is only two things that can be done.
1. Remove the exclusive NFL License from EA's clutches, (which the NFL refuses to do)
2. Not only stop buying Madden but all their other sh*t games as well.Then and only then will EA get the hint that the majority of the gaming community is sick and tired of their broken and cash grab products.
It needs to hurt their wallet in order for them to change their ways.
I haven't played Madden in several years. Haven't bought it since the MUT's second year. I know someone who does buy it every year, ignoring the "haters" and suffers because of it.
Everyone will be doing that no look pass/jump pass for 30 yards with any QB why even put that in the game
Whike i totally agree madden needs HUGE improvements, how many videos are you going to put out that say the exact same thing?
This would be the first video Ive spoke on the Madden 20 to Madden 24 "No Look Pass" being sold. Also first video I had spoke on Kelce's comments - which has been mentioned to me for weeks. Did you miss the topics of the video?
@@RyanMoody21 nope. Didn't miss it at all. But that throw is not the only big problem
Hey Ryan need the NFL to hear our voices to get rid of ea sports they not going to listen
Not defending EA by any means, but can you blame them? We keep complaining, yet we all keep buying. I’m guilty as well. I purchase during Black Friday when it’s half off. Until we start talking with our wallets they will keep the same business model.
I wonder if adding a regen system would fix the draft in franchise mode.