Im a big history buff - my father used to tell me historic stories of battles, ranging from medieval times to soviet afghanistan war - and i really grew up fascinated of uniforms, army and weapons. I havent, though, been really interested in american civil war. My interest in pre 20th century wars was kinda minimal since half a decade ago, then i read hornblower -books and saw the hornblower movies they made in early 2000's and got really fascinated in these bright uniforms, especially british stunning red-white uniforms. After my own time in finnish military couple of years back these bright uniforms are beautiful sights, even tho i got my stripes and even a medal on my chest i never really found those to be very fitting against green M/05 camouflage. Finnish tradtional grey uniform wears them better, but after seeing your video I can imagine how well shiny things wore on these uniforms. And im not sure why but i find that kinda high thigh trousers (im lack of better term for them, hope you get my meaning), sturdy button suspenders and saggy shirt combination ultimate manly clothing! Looks really good in my opinion, i sometimes wear kinda similiar clothes when not in city (here in the middle of the forest its a lot more liberal to wear strange clothes, plus my gf finds my 1800's inspired outfit good looking so theres that excuse too). So thanks for the video, even tho im not too interested about the topic i found your presentation and passion about the matter entertaining so i ended up watching the whole thing 👏
I am American of Italian and Portuguese Ancestry. I became Fascinated with Hornblower as a kid reading a old book of My Mom’s from Her childhood. I read them all and the Movie with Gregory Peck Has always been a favorite. One of My stepsons looks like Loan Gruffudd as He appears in the Hornblower Series and I did some driveway repair work for a British transplant relative of His living in Marin County Calif. about 18 years ago. Good to know I am not the only one who likes wearing old style cloth’s that other’s consider a eccentricity. Zulu also had a impact on Me as while watching that movie as a little kid My Dad said “ My Papa was in a battle like that, He said they had them stacked like cordwood.” My Grandfather passed away when I was about 3 . My Grandmother who was 12 years younger said that He joined the Italian Army at 18 to get His obligation over with and fought at Adwa Abyssinia in 1896. A older Uncle said “ Pappa barely escaped with His life and made His way to another Italian camp. He was from Lonate Pozolo. In Latin My last Name means of the Nervii. My First hunting rifle My Dad bought for Me is a Coltsman .223 actually a Sako Forester marketed by Colt. A very fine rifle that I have taken many Deer with.
This is really good. Good not just for re-enactors but also for anyone who has an imbiding interest in the Civil War. Actually, good is not the right word for these videos. Brilliant is a better fit.
Thanks. Always saw too many reenactors wearing what looks "coolest" and not what the average soldier would have had. Thanks for hitting that point hard. N U G !
You are correct sir. It was specifically the 5th Michigan A and B company and yes they were the spencer rifles, not the carbines. The rest of the MCB At Gettysburg were issued a mixture of Sharps, Smiths, Maynard carbines, and even a hand full of the 1857 Springfield single shot cavalry musketoons.
Actually it was Wilder's Brigade at Hoover's Gap, TN June 24, 1863. The entire brigade was armed with Spencers and took on two Confederate brigades to hold the gap.
While it's actually a good idea to keep your canteen on you - Congdon's statement was probably in response to troopers attaching them to their saddles too often, remember he says his work's based on what's actually practiced in the field. In our research of such things, we often find general orders that say something to the effect of "STOP THAT!" It's unlikely a general order would be issued to stop doing something unless the men were doing it. So, while attaching your canteen to your saddle may be rather common, it's also going to be as common for the 1st shirt to whack you on the head and tell you not to.
I really enjoy your video! You strive for re enactors and collectors to be their best! I appreciate it. I am doing some videos on collecting and history myself and I really am impressed by what you have done here!
Regulations called for trousers to be worn outside the boots. The photos I have of Eastern Federal regular army cavalry units (1st, 2nd, and 5th US) appears to show this was reenforced (with the exception of officers and NCO's) far more so than with volunteer units.
Agreed, that is why I try to keep my pants on the outside rather than tuck them into the boots. Either way, we are just encouraging people to simply have some reasoning and research behind what they choose to do.
Boots were problems during the War for all branches. Issue boots were notoriously uncomfortable and often not well made. Cavalry would often buy boots. Forage hats or caps were issued and widely worn. These were not kepis. The sheer variety of hats worn and used after 1863 is amazing. Good video.
Steve, thanks again for another superb video. I am becoming better learned from here in Alaska. Keep up the swell job, cuz you're winning the 'war' in reenacting for us. Go good, sir! - Kid
Since the '70's modern hikers have known that Cotton Socks under Wool Socks will wick the moisture away from your feet and don't smell much at all. Contrarily, Wool Socks against your feet is only exceeded by Orlon in it's propensity for creating horrendous foot stench.
Hi Steve! Captain Bradford, 9th Kansas here. Great video. Regulations were largely ignored regarding not tucking trousers into the boots by almost half of the period photos that I've seen. And if you look closely at those photos with the trousers correctly on the outside, you can see many are wrinkled from the knee down because they were untucked before the photo was taken. I personally wear my trousers tucked in to make it more difficult for ticks to grab hold while riding through brush and tall grass, and leather is more durable and snag free than cloth when going through brambles. I think what was expected in camp and even more so on the parade grounds, depended on the strictness of the person in command and who all might be looking such as visiting brass. Once they rode off and were out of sight on a campaign, practicality and comfort became a bigger issue. Regarding cartridge boxes, I used to slide mine off center of the spine just in case I got thrown and landed flat on my back. Bruised kidney beats cracked or broken spine. I think attaching it to the sling should have been adopted. But it wasn't so we don't do it.
Hey Bradford! Yes I agree with your thoughts. My whole points is to just have logic behind what you do rather than just doing "what everybody else is doing". Great thoughts!
Outstanding presentation and not too long as far as I am concerned. I would have enjoyed a discussion of the Great Coat. Hopefully you will discuss in a future video. Please keep up your excellent work.
In the John Wayne trilogy movie, "Rio Grande", Victor McLaglen is a cavalry sergeant embarrassed when the washer-woman points out the thread-bare bottoms to his drawers. Napoleon's cavalry regiments (when fully provisioned) had leather sewn on the horse side of their pants, and many of his cavalrymen went on campaign with coveralls over their uniform. I understood why, in theory, but you put it into practical reality. Never get your History (including uniforms) or tactics from Hollywood, but in the trilogy, it shows the short-jacket and forage cap on formal occasions, and other variations of the uniform on patrol (ignore any cowboy hats...).
Wonderfully entertaining and informative video (s). Regarding wearing the cartridge box in a frontal position on tge carbine sling: is it possible this was not done because a hit from a sabre, rifle butt or a bullet could ignite the cartridges within?
Cavalry are still permitted to wear the Stetson Hat on Fridays and formal occasions. I had to earn the right to have one though by surviving a deployment. Other units have different standards. I still have mine even though my Army days are long behind me.
"If you're going to be a cavalry trooper, make sure you get a cavalry belt, and not an infantry belt." A maxim probably taken direct from some quartermaster's manual, Because Enlisted Men.
Military Regulations were strict at least for enlisted and early in the war, as fore wearing uniforms, equipment, etc. I know infantry had some leeway in the field like they do today, not sure about Cav! As for the shirt, from what I know of Regs they were issued the white shirt that need to last them a year and if not they needed to purchase out of pocket! So, they would get private civilian shirts, which were cheaper or wear shirts from home to off the cost! Just some info, good job on the video! As for the impression I always like to stay true to the history to honor those men and boys, either Civil war, WW2, Vietnam whatever. Not just what looks cool or what, just to give respect!
I had a thought when you were talking about the experience of getting ammunition out of a saddle bag. It seems to me that that would be an experience a soldier would only want once. I could be completely wrong, but I would think that if you had run out of ammunition in a firefight you may very well ditch the cartridge block and carry more rounds. Again, I could be totally off here, but from a modern perspective there is how we are "supposed to" wear our gear and how we "actually" wear our gear.
Zachary, what are you looking for? Using the criteria of "cheap" may not be the best motivating factor as you can get quality gear for "Cheap" if you are willing to sew. Let me know what you need and I can point you in a direction. Thanks for watching!
I have watched 11th ovc’s videos over and over again. From what I can gather in what the videos show is what to look for when doing your impression and the quality equipment you should look for. I have made the mistake of buying on impulse. I foolishly purchased equipment off of eBay. I will say this don’t buy everything at once, buy your equipment pieces at a time. I bought my weapons first. Those are what cost the most. I am saving my uniforms for last because I don’t know how long it will take me to be battle ready. As for where to buy, i took my time and did the research to see what I needed. I bought my cartridge boxes, saber belt and belt buckle from cc sutlery. I purchased the snap swivels for the saber belt, a leather sewing awl and leather belt keepers from blockade runner. My pistol holster I had originally purchased from ebay, lesson learned it was not correct, it was too big for my revolver and was not riveted, so I purchased a new one from fall creek sutlery. I am more than certain that I am going to need to replace the saber belt. I noticed that it’s already starting to crack on the edges. I really enjoy these videos the 11th OVC has been making. I have learned a lot watching and continue to learn from these. I
Don't know how relevant this is now, but I do imagine that foot wraps are a good alternative to socks. Just make sure you have a good lightweight wool if it is hot out, and that you know how to wear them.
A little late but I did find a book that documents the carbine cartridge box being worn on the sling or the waist belt. The book is called "American Civil War: The Definitive Encyclopedia and Documentation. The documentation is found on page 980 on the left side second paragraph.
The_Survivalist68, Agreed. Actually after we posted this video, we ran across written documentation and photographic evidence from pictures from the proposed QM manual. While the evidence was not in the field but staged pictures it is evident that it was done. We still hold to the idea that while it might have been done, it still wasn't NUG.
Even though there's limited documentation of it, I'd say that since reenactors find it easier to have the cartridge box on the chest, then some soldiers then would too.
By that same logic, I have no doubt that, if given the chance (and the ammo), soldiers would remove the block inserts to give themselves room for more ammo. Wouldn't *you* want as much as feasibly possible, on a battlefield?
@@IncredibleMD Right, exactly. Rules and regulations existed, but in circumstances where it frankly just didn't matter or wasn't enforced, stuff like that will *always* happen.
Good video..I personally have made half my kit, prefer to do it, get more pleasure from wearing...I have Federal issue shirts...and, i noticed you were holding your trousers a certain way - those who wear drawers, and yes, i do, know how dodgy those tin buttons are...good vid bro :D
I have read a book from the “warrior series” book 13 called “union cavalryman 1861-1865”. On page 18 it states “ the larger carbine ammunition pouch was often worn worn on the carbine belt, unless the cap box were worn on the left side, in which case it could be crammed onto the sword belt”. I am still trying to find photos showing troopers doing that. I have tried notionally loading my carbine by trying both methods. I found it easier for me to have my carbine pouch on the saber belt on my right side behind the pistol holster. I also tried the cap pouch on the left side and found that Load faster with my pouch on my right side. But then again I guess it all depends on the trooper
There is a Army quartermaster photo showing the carbine box being worn on the carbine sling (though not in front, and with the hook on the wrong side), however I contacted the curator of the US quartermaster museum and he confirmed that these photos were often posed to show the equipment, and were not necessarily correct. www.shadowlandstudios.com/2nd_US_Cav/Equipment/CarbineBox_on_Sling.jpg
How much cost and effort does it take you to shoot that Smith carbine, what with the odd ammo, especially considering that you're doing reenactment shooting and not actual ball and powder live ammo?
A general rule for all boots is that if it's sandy or dusty, leave the pants outside so the dust doesn't get blown into the boot. Easterners, by and large, tucked their pants in, a hold over from civilain fashion. If in doubt, look to what your superiors are doing. Just remember the ideal is to be 'uniform'.
First question: what is "nug" or "a nug"? Never heard the word and couldn't tell from its context what it meant. I would think a cartridge box should be placed where it is easily accessed. Were "drawers" made of cotton? How many pair were issued to a soldier? Did any part of the uniform or the weapons have to be paid for by the soldiers? I know that U.S.C.T. had $3.00/mo. Taken out of their $10.00 per month wage to pay for uniforms. Not so for their white counterparts.! I would think it better for all the soldiers to wear the hats with the brim to keep the sun out of their eyes. Were canteens made of wood, metal, ceramics? Why didn't every soldier have the same weapon? I would think that Gen. Meigs would have gotten better prices per weapon if he dealt w/ 1 manufacturer!!Did the soldiers use the "minie ball" through the war or did the ammo. change to something better? Norma Jean. Historian in Training☆
All good stuff, did a lot of reenactments back prior to the millennium (before most of you were out of diapers), you might consider doing a video on officer uniforms and equipment.
I got the tall-knee flap boots and i'm not ashamed lol sorry, they're sharp. I thought that was standard honestly :/ too expensive to buy another pair anyways. I'm pretty new to it so thanks for this video!
Question does the same thing apply to the south with the Kepi. I'm portraying a hospital steward. Should I get a kepi or a civilian hat or a forage cap
Jason, I honestly don't know enough about southern impressions to give you much guidance. However, hospital stewards definitely were a unique aspect of each unit and I would assume have some flexibility in their uniform more than the standard rank and file.
Ricardo, great question. Depending on the contractor making and supplying the pistol cartridges, caps were generally supplied with the pistol cartridges. Some were not and the men where issued caps to go along with their pistol rounds. I have found only a couple references to this at this time ,but for the most part, they were only issued one or two extra pistol caps (Similar to musket cap sets). I have not found a period reference of the standard rank and file trooper carrying a tin of 50-100 extra caps. I have seen records of staff officers, QM's, etc having tins, but not the standard rank and file. While I need to do much more research on this, it is pretty clear that there weren't that many "extra" caps. Thus, they could easily be kept in pockets, house-wives, etc.
Pistol ammo on both sides was shipped in the wooden cartridge boxes or in a warped paper pack. Each box/pack contained 7 or 8 caps depending on the cartridge makers contract and availability of caps. It was very rare to load pistols in the field with powder flask and ball or conical. Early war units that carried the Dragoons used the powder flask/ball but units with the 1851 Navy, 1860 Army and Remington NMA's almost exclusively used paper cartridges. I am sure there are exceptions to this, especially on the Southern militia side but by and large paper cartridges were the norm as was caps supplied in each cartridge pack.
Josepi The miner, that is a great idea for another video! As a general rule, most soldiers were issued a blanket, some type of rubber/painted cloth for rain, and a greatcoat. However, in winter quarters, soldiers slept in crude "cabins" with a canvas roof and a makeshift fireplace. We will put this topic on the agenda for this winter. Thanks for watching!
Ive always wanted to do reenacting not just to wear beautiful dresses, but to have a better understanding of how woman lived and how they helped the men during the war. does anyone have any reading material that could help me?
h2ohan1, unfortunately my knowledge is narrow and my ignorance is great. When it comes to do with anything civilian, especially women's clothing and traditions....I am utterly ignorant. I would simply ask you to google authentic women's clothing and daily activities during the 1860's. Sorry that i am not much help. But thanks for watching!
11th Ohio Volunteer Cavalry thats ok thanks anyways id like to reenact to honor my ancestors and ill look up womens clothing love your videos keep em coming. ps your videos are very informational and fun to watch not to mention ur easy on the eyes. Thanks again for ur help
I like that you do not use the shoulder strap of your saber belt. Many, many original photos show them not being used; however nearly all reenactors use them.
An other great an informative video. .Thanks for all your videos. I love them. I noticed in all of them your sleeves seem too short. Did your jacket shrink? I had that happen one time and so bad I had to just give my jacket away.
Jacob, thanks for the comment and interest. While we don't even consider ourselves an authentic or campaigner unit as a whole, going to such events definitely has opened our eyes to how much fun reenacting can be. After a few years of doing the standard mainstream weekend events with almost the identical schedule and scenarios, we were looking for something different. Either way, thanks for watching!
11th Ohio Volunteer Cavalry Right, we aren't either. But we have been talking amongst ourselves in my unit about setting some higher authenticity standards and doing some campaigner/progressive stuff. (issuing period rations, eating out of haversacks only, living out of bed rolls) Like you said, this hobby is nothing but gray and I'm excited to see the gray area between mainstream and progressive widening because that's where I see myself and I think it's something that alot of folks could get into.
you never mentioned the vest. From all I have read of fashion in the 19th century the shirt was considered underwear and it was not considered polite to wear just a shirt when taking off the jacket.
Chrisbreen119- Great question! We specifically didn't cover the vest because it was not an issued item to the troops. Vests were private purchase. This video focused on the standard issue items from the QM or Ordnance Dept. We have another video on shirts that addresses your comment about being appropriate when taking your jacket off. Thanks for watching!
I asked because I have been partaking of CAS for the past 15 years here in New Zealand and have been striving to be a period correct as possible. This is why In was looking at the social etiquette of clothing and what was considered correct. Being an ex soldier I know from personal experience how the military feel about troops being correct in their dress.@@11thovc
Ethan, I obviously don't know the details around your specific order but the vast majority of the suppliers in our hobby is at least 6-8 weeks out. Expecting a supplier to send a product within a month is usually unrealistic. I know I wait an average of 6-12 months for most of the things we order. Double check the FAQ's on their website. Thanks for watching!
11th Ohio Volunteer Cavalry yeah I realized that I was watching another video some guy had to wait 1 year for a Sekela blanket I’m trying to make my impression more accurate with higher quality stuff anyway thanks for the knowledge
I will choose the correct equipment when it becomes cheap. Because people who make equipment for any era in history are selling their crap for extortionate prices. For Who in America has a way to consistently purchase things 200 dollars and over amount plus taxes. Then there the rifles/muskets that are like 10,000 or even 50,000 plus tax.
Rex9399, Unfortunately not. This channel is dedicated to the under-focused-on cav side of things. There are a fair number of infantry videos out there and therefore will focus primarily on the cavalry side of things. If you have any questions feel free to ask and we will try to point you in the right direction.
11th Ohio Volunteer Cavalry Okay, thank you so much. One of my friends and I are just getting into the whole reenacting the U.S. Civil war thing, so I'm eager to find anything helpful. From your video, I was able to piece together a decent uniform, with your "NUG" tactic. Again, thank you so much!
Where do You buy ammunition for the weapons. A major impediment to getting interested in the hobby is being able to actually go out and shoot. If I want to bounce a ball i can drive 15-20 minutes to a number of places and find a wide variety . Not so with what I need for the very expensive wall hanger’s that I would love to shoot. Gavin Newsome and Pelosi make sure that We are well stocked with what it Takes to go on A Bender and get Stanked Out and Hammered. I can readily find Sports Cars that even a Kid can get into and go in excess of 120 miles per hour . But Flints , Musket Caps , black Powder , balls and Minie bullets, not so in the Bay Area of Calif or even within reasonable driving distance. So much for Thomas Jefferson’s advice to His Nephew.
Just got into Indian Wars impression, and I am currently borrowing uniforms for events. The unit were are portraying is 1870's Indian Wars, and I am an infantryman. I have been getting uniform parts here and there, so I no longer have to borrow peoples stuff, but it has been extremely difficult getting stuff that is specifically for the Indian Wars, everything is just Civil War, which is not entirely accurate to the uniform parts I need. Does anyone have any website, or advice to help me out with finding the proper uniforms parts I need. 1872 is the year to be more specific.
Does your carbine box have a wooden block that allows the Smith round to fit in the drilled out holes? If so, where did you get it? My carbine box has a wooden block that has holes too small for the Smith but fits other carbine cartridges like the Maynard, Gallager, and Burnside. I can't widen the holes any more because the wooden sides wood then be too thin.
Little House Guy: Smith rounds are a bit more challenging than sharps, Spencer, or other similar carbines. I too have that same wooden block in my carbine box that is great for Spencer and Burnside rounds. I mainly use a sharps for most of my eastern impressions and use a sharps box with tins which works great. However back to the Smith....I have not done enough research to know exactly how smith rounds were issued and what cartridge box was most commonly used for the Smith. The 11th Kansas Cav were issued smith carbines and I know they were issued a small number of "Burnside boxes" like the one you are using. Nothing else is specified on what the rest of the regiment used. So, from an authentic standpoint, I do not have enough information to answer your question. However, I personally use a cardboard divider for 20 cartridges that I insert into the box. I use "period cardboard" that is stiff and simply cut sections that fit together and make 20 slots for the smith rounds. Hope this helps, sorry that I could not provide a period answer.
Thanks, I've thought about using a cardboard divider myself but have realized it needs to be quite thin. Also, the wooden block seems to keep the other cartridge rounds a little higher in the box, making them easier to pull out. At present, my prototype cardboard divider leaves the rounds resting on the bottom of the box, a bit too low to easily take them out of the cartridge box on the field. Since my next trail walk requires more than twenty rounds, I think I'll just leave them loose so that I can fit more in the box.
Smith rounds have been much of a trial and error thing for myself as well. I just haven't gotten around to doing the research I need to do to figure out what was most common for troops using the Smith. Great gun thought! One of my favorites!
Dan, unfortunately we are pretty ignorant on the details needed to put a video together for the southern items. Our focus in our video is federal cavalry since that is our area of expertise. We agree there is a need for the southern side as well but unfortunately are not quite there yet ourselves! Maybe in the future. Thanks for watching!
Troy, The trapdoor carbine for the cavalry was adopted in May of 1873 and the 45-70 model that we all know was adopted in early 1874 when the San Antonio Arsenal requested this new cartridge for the spring campaign against the Comanches. And the end of March 1874, over 1,000 carbines were reported in field service in 6 out of the 10 regular cavalry regiments. Hope this helps!
Jeff, Poinsett's order #292 states: "To dismount: ...Seize the carbine with the right hand, at the lower band; pass it over the right shoulder diagonally, the muzzle in the air, so that it cannot fall back..."
Or are you talking about the image at 4:02? If so, then we always need to keep in mind the difference of images of soldiers in the field vs. studio or other staged images as seen at 4:02. This was definitely a staged image to accentuate his accouterments.
John Derosa, it is a Nick Sekela hat that can be found at the following address: www.njsekela.com/product_info.php?cPath=27&products_id=43 NJ Sekela has awesome products but tends to take a LONG time (like 2 years for my MSJ) and has poor customer service. Worth getting as long as you know this. Sometimes you get lucky and get quick service....my LT sack coat only took about 5 weeks!
I've noticed that some of the contemporary photo's are printed in reverse so (e.g at 20.12 minutes) what appears to be on the right side of the belt is actually on the left. Sorry if I am stating the obvious.
A video thats 4 years old is just now being recommend? Lol either way 160 years ago down south here wearing that yankee blue would be hazardous to ones health
Im a big history buff - my father used to tell me historic stories of battles, ranging from medieval times to soviet afghanistan war - and i really grew up fascinated of uniforms, army and weapons.
I havent, though, been really interested in american civil war. My interest in pre 20th century wars was kinda minimal since half a decade ago, then i read hornblower -books and saw the hornblower movies they made in early 2000's and got really fascinated in these bright uniforms, especially british stunning red-white uniforms. After my own time in finnish military couple of years back these bright uniforms are beautiful sights, even tho i got my stripes and even a medal on my chest i never really found those to be very fitting against green M/05 camouflage. Finnish tradtional grey uniform wears them better, but after seeing your video I can imagine how well shiny things wore on these uniforms.
And im not sure why but i find that kinda high thigh trousers (im lack of better term for them, hope you get my meaning), sturdy button suspenders and saggy shirt combination ultimate manly clothing! Looks really good in my opinion, i sometimes wear kinda similiar clothes when not in city (here in the middle of the forest its a lot more liberal to wear strange clothes, plus my gf finds my 1800's inspired outfit good looking so theres that excuse too).
So thanks for the video, even tho im not too interested about the topic i found your presentation and passion about the matter entertaining so i ended up watching the whole thing 👏
I am American of Italian and Portuguese Ancestry. I became Fascinated with Hornblower as a kid reading a old book of My Mom’s from Her childhood. I read them all and the Movie with Gregory Peck Has always been a favorite. One of My stepsons looks like Loan Gruffudd as He appears in the Hornblower Series and I did some driveway repair work for a British transplant relative of His living in Marin County Calif. about 18 years ago. Good to know I am not the only one who likes wearing old style cloth’s that other’s consider a eccentricity. Zulu also had a impact on Me as while watching that movie as a little kid My Dad said “ My Papa was in a battle like that, He said they had them stacked like cordwood.” My Grandfather passed away when I was about 3 . My Grandmother who was 12 years younger said that He joined the Italian Army at 18 to get His obligation over with and fought at Adwa Abyssinia in 1896. A older Uncle said “ Pappa barely escaped with His life and made His way to another Italian camp. He was from Lonate Pozolo. In Latin My last Name means of the Nervii. My First hunting rifle My Dad bought for Me is a Coltsman .223 actually a Sako Forester marketed by Colt. A very fine rifle that I have taken many Deer with.
Can't help but laugh...man...I know exactly why you are holding your pants right there! LOL! Also, well done.
Jamie, You know it! I figured to keep these video's PG.
@James Richardson, I have not run across it. While it may have happened, it wasn't the norm. The exception rather than the rule. Thanks for watching!
This is really good. Good not just for re-enactors but also for anyone who has an imbiding interest in the Civil War. Actually, good is not the right word for these videos. Brilliant is a better fit.
I wear home spun shirt with color patters.
Thanks. Always saw too many reenactors wearing what looks "coolest" and not what the average soldier would have had. Thanks for hitting that point hard. N U G !
You are correct sir. It was specifically the 5th Michigan A and B company and yes they were the spencer rifles, not the carbines. The rest of the MCB At Gettysburg were issued a mixture of Sharps, Smiths, Maynard carbines, and even a hand full of the 1857 Springfield single shot cavalry musketoons.
Actually it was Wilder's Brigade at Hoover's Gap, TN June 24, 1863. The entire brigade was armed with Spencers and took on two Confederate brigades to hold the gap.
I can’t not shake the fact this guy looks like a young Clint Eastwood on the thumbnail
Tucking in your leg trousers was for wear and tear(tall grass with very tiny thorns and snake bites)
While it's actually a good idea to keep your canteen on you - Congdon's statement was probably in response to troopers attaching them to their saddles too often, remember he says his work's based on what's actually practiced in the field. In our research of such things, we often find general orders that say something to the effect of "STOP THAT!" It's unlikely a general order would be issued to stop doing something unless the men were doing it.
So, while attaching your canteen to your saddle may be rather common, it's also going to be as common for the 1st shirt to whack you on the head and tell you not to.
Well said! Thanks
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I really enjoy your video! You strive for re enactors and collectors to be their best! I appreciate it. I am doing some videos on collecting and history myself and I really am impressed by what you have done here!
I like your yankee kit I usually try to go for a confederate kit cause I had family in a bunch of Georgia units
For our early 1870s IW we took our Hardee hats and shelaqued the crown down to 1 inch above the brim and all of the brim.
Regulations called for trousers to be worn outside the boots. The photos I have of Eastern Federal regular army cavalry units (1st, 2nd, and 5th US) appears to show this was reenforced (with the exception of officers and NCO's) far more so than with volunteer units.
Agreed, that is why I try to keep my pants on the outside rather than tuck them into the boots. Either way, we are just encouraging people to simply have some reasoning and research behind what they choose to do.
Boots were problems during the War for all branches. Issue boots were notoriously uncomfortable and often not well made. Cavalry would often buy boots. Forage hats or caps were issued and widely worn. These were not kepis. The sheer variety of hats worn and used after 1863 is amazing. Good video.
Steve, thanks again for another superb video. I am becoming better learned from here in Alaska. Keep up the swell job, cuz you're winning the 'war' in reenacting for us. Go good, sir! - Kid
Since the '70's modern hikers have known that Cotton Socks under Wool Socks will wick the moisture away from your feet and don't smell much at all. Contrarily, Wool Socks against your feet is only exceeded by Orlon in it's propensity for creating horrendous foot stench.
Hi Steve! Captain Bradford, 9th Kansas here. Great video. Regulations were largely ignored regarding not tucking trousers into the boots by almost half of the period photos that I've seen. And if you look closely at those photos with the trousers correctly on the outside, you can see many are wrinkled from the knee down because they were untucked before the photo was taken. I personally wear my trousers tucked in to make it more difficult for ticks to grab hold while riding through brush and tall grass, and leather is more durable and snag free than cloth when going through brambles. I think what was expected in camp and even more so on the parade grounds, depended on the strictness of the person in command and who all might be looking such as visiting brass. Once they rode off and were out of sight on a campaign, practicality and comfort became a bigger issue. Regarding cartridge boxes, I used to slide mine off center of the spine just in case I got thrown and landed flat on my back. Bruised kidney beats cracked or broken spine. I think attaching it to the sling should have been adopted. But it wasn't so we don't do it.
Hey Bradford! Yes I agree with your thoughts. My whole points is to just have logic behind what you do rather than just doing "what everybody else is doing". Great thoughts!
Outstanding presentation and not too long as far as I am concerned. I would have enjoyed a discussion of the Great Coat. Hopefully you will discuss in a future video. Please keep up your excellent work.
I sometimes wish I had gotten a Smith instead of the Sharps.
In the John Wayne trilogy movie, "Rio Grande", Victor McLaglen is a cavalry sergeant embarrassed when the washer-woman points out the thread-bare bottoms to his drawers. Napoleon's cavalry regiments (when fully provisioned) had leather sewn on the horse side of their pants, and many of his cavalrymen went on campaign with coveralls over their uniform. I understood why, in theory, but you put it into practical reality. Never get your History (including uniforms) or tactics from Hollywood, but in the trilogy, it shows the short-jacket and forage cap on formal occasions, and other variations of the uniform on patrol (ignore any cowboy hats...).
Wonderfully entertaining and informative video (s). Regarding wearing the cartridge box in a frontal position on tge carbine sling: is it possible this was not done because a hit from a sabre, rifle butt or a bullet could ignite the cartridges within?
Cavalry are still permitted to wear the Stetson Hat on Fridays and formal occasions. I had to earn the right to have one though by surviving a deployment. Other units have different standards. I still have mine even though my Army days are long behind me.
"If you're going to be a cavalry trooper, make sure you get a cavalry belt, and not an infantry belt."
A maxim probably taken direct from some quartermaster's manual, Because Enlisted Men.
NUG is just gun in backwards
Military Regulations were strict at least for enlisted and early in the war, as fore wearing uniforms, equipment, etc. I know infantry had some leeway in the field like they do today, not sure about Cav! As for the shirt, from what I know of Regs they were issued the white shirt that need to last them a year and if not they needed to purchase out of pocket! So, they would get private civilian shirts, which were cheaper or wear shirts from home to off the cost! Just some info, good job on the video! As for the impression I always like to stay true to the history to honor those men and boys, either Civil war, WW2, Vietnam whatever. Not just what looks cool or what, just to give respect!
I had a thought when you were talking about the experience of getting ammunition out of a saddle bag. It seems to me that that would be an experience a soldier would only want once. I could be completely wrong, but I would think that if you had run out of ammunition in a firefight you may very well ditch the cartridge block and carry more rounds. Again, I could be totally off here, but from a modern perspective there is how we are "supposed to" wear our gear and how we "actually" wear our gear.
Great video! I see you used the hat collage I created for my 2nd US Cav website. Glad to see it helped!
You bet! I try not to re-invent the wheel and draw from the hard work that others have already done! Thanks for watching.
11th Ohio volunteer cavalry what website sells reenactment gear that is cheap please help me I am trying to reenactments . Thank You!
Zachary, what are you looking for? Using the criteria of "cheap" may not be the best motivating factor as you can get quality gear for "Cheap" if you are willing to sew. Let me know what you need and I can point you in a direction. Thanks for watching!
I have watched 11th ovc’s videos over and over again. From what I can gather in what the videos show is what to look for when doing your impression and the quality equipment you should look for. I have made the mistake of buying on impulse. I foolishly purchased equipment off of eBay. I will say this don’t buy everything at once, buy your equipment pieces at a time. I bought my weapons first. Those are what cost the most. I am saving my uniforms for last because I don’t know how long it will take me to be battle ready. As for where to buy, i took my time and did the research to see what I needed. I bought my cartridge boxes, saber belt and belt buckle from cc sutlery. I purchased the snap swivels for the saber belt, a leather sewing awl and leather belt keepers from blockade runner. My pistol holster I had originally purchased from ebay, lesson learned it was not correct, it was too big for my revolver and was not riveted, so I purchased a new one from fall creek sutlery. I am more than certain that I am going to need to replace the saber belt. I noticed that it’s already starting to crack on the edges. I really enjoy these videos the 11th OVC has been making. I have learned a lot watching and continue to learn from these. I
Great video! Very informative! Thanks a lot!
Don't know how relevant this is now, but I do imagine that foot wraps are a good alternative to socks. Just make sure you have a good lightweight wool if it is hot out, and that you know how to wear them.
at 8:55 "I hope the ladies are checking me out."
I'm late to the party - but gee... now that was very good ! ! ! THANKS ! !
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A little late but I did find a book that documents the carbine cartridge box being worn on the sling or the waist belt. The book is called "American Civil War: The Definitive Encyclopedia and Documentation. The documentation is found on page 980 on the left side second paragraph.
Also at 20:38 the picture is shown with the sling over the right shoulder and the carbine hanging down near the saber.
The_Survivalist68,
Agreed. Actually after we posted this video, we ran across written documentation and photographic evidence from pictures from the proposed QM manual. While the evidence was not in the field but staged pictures it is evident that it was done. We still hold to the idea that while it might have been done, it still wasn't NUG.
@@11thovc that is proper so it wouldn't interfere with the use of the revolver.
Even though there's limited documentation of it, I'd say that since reenactors find it easier to have the cartridge box on the chest, then some soldiers then would too.
There is a good argument to be had about that reasoning! Thanks for watching Adam Lee!
By that same logic, I have no doubt that, if given the chance (and the ammo), soldiers would remove the block inserts to give themselves room for more ammo. Wouldn't *you* want as much as feasibly possible, on a battlefield?
@@IncredibleMD Right, exactly. Rules and regulations existed, but in circumstances where it frankly just didn't matter or wasn't enforced, stuff like that will *always* happen.
Love these gear videos.
Good video..I personally have made half my kit, prefer to do it, get more pleasure from wearing...I have Federal issue shirts...and, i noticed you were holding your trousers a certain way - those who wear drawers, and yes, i do, know how dodgy those tin buttons are...good vid bro :D
I have read a book from the “warrior series” book 13 called “union cavalryman 1861-1865”. On page 18 it states “ the larger carbine ammunition pouch was often worn worn on the carbine belt, unless the cap box were worn on the left side, in which case it could be crammed onto the sword belt”. I am still trying to find photos showing troopers doing that. I have tried notionally loading my carbine by trying both methods. I found it easier for me to have my carbine pouch on the saber belt on my right side behind the pistol holster. I also tried the cap pouch on the left side and found that Load faster with my pouch on my right side. But then again I guess it all depends on the trooper
For our cav impression i wore a pair of issue booties not brogans
There is a Army quartermaster photo showing the carbine box being worn on the carbine sling (though not in front, and with the hook on the wrong side), however I contacted the curator of the US quartermaster museum and he confirmed that these photos were often posed to show the equipment, and were not necessarily correct. www.shadowlandstudios.com/2nd_US_Cav/Equipment/CarbineBox_on_Sling.jpg
How much cost and effort does it take you to shoot that Smith carbine, what with the odd ammo, especially considering that you're doing reenactment shooting and not actual ball and powder live ammo?
A general rule for all boots is that if it's sandy or dusty, leave the pants outside so the dust doesn't get blown into the boot. Easterners, by and large, tucked their pants in, a hold over from civilain fashion. If in doubt, look to what your superiors are doing. Just remember the ideal is to be 'uniform'.
First question: what is "nug" or "a nug"? Never heard the word and couldn't tell from its context what it meant. I would think a cartridge box should be placed where it is easily accessed. Were "drawers" made of cotton? How many pair were issued to a soldier? Did any part of the uniform or the weapons have to be paid for by the soldiers? I know that U.S.C.T. had $3.00/mo. Taken out of their $10.00 per month wage to pay for uniforms. Not so for their white counterparts.!
I would think it better for all the soldiers to wear the hats with the brim to keep the sun out of their eyes. Were canteens made of wood, metal, ceramics? Why didn't every soldier have the same weapon? I would think that Gen. Meigs would have gotten better prices per weapon if he dealt w/ 1 manufacturer!!Did the soldiers use the "minie ball" through the war or did the ammo. change to something better? Norma Jean. Historian in Training☆
Did the cavalry use musketoons?
Thank you
oPrez, you bet! Hope it was valuable for you! Thanks for watching.
NUG must a regional thing. Here in Wisconsin we use PEC (Plain, Everyday, Common) ;)
the G in NUG is for "general"
hard to talk down "over generalization" when you also keep using a term that is SPECIFICALLY used to generalize lol
only 1 way too wear your pants. the " duke " tucked them in so you tuck em in lol thx for sharing the info good vid.
Glad you found it entertaining and/or useful.
I'm new to this kind of stuff
All good stuff, did a lot of reenactments back prior to the millennium (before most of you were out of diapers), you might consider doing a video on officer uniforms and equipment.
Fascinating!
What are bolsters on the shell jacket and how were they used ?
I got the tall-knee flap boots and i'm not ashamed lol sorry, they're sharp. I thought that was standard honestly :/ too expensive to buy another pair anyways. I'm pretty new to it so thanks for this video!
Question does the same thing apply to the south with the Kepi. I'm portraying a hospital steward. Should I get a kepi or a civilian hat or a forage cap
Jason, I honestly don't know enough about southern impressions to give you much guidance. However, hospital stewards definitely were a unique aspect of each unit and I would assume have some flexibility in their uniform more than the standard rank and file.
JC! Really!
Where would cavalry men carry extra caps for their pistols? Because I highly doubt that they'd have them in the same pouch as the carbine caps.
Ricardo, great question. Depending on the contractor making and supplying the pistol cartridges, caps were generally supplied with the pistol cartridges. Some were not and the men where issued caps to go along with their pistol rounds. I have found only a couple references to this at this time ,but for the most part, they were only issued one or two extra pistol caps (Similar to musket cap sets). I have not found a period reference of the standard rank and file trooper carrying a tin of 50-100 extra caps. I have seen records of staff officers, QM's, etc having tins, but not the standard rank and file. While I need to do much more research on this, it is pretty clear that there weren't that many "extra" caps. Thus, they could easily be kept in pockets, house-wives, etc.
Pistol ammo on both sides was shipped in the wooden cartridge boxes or in a warped paper pack. Each box/pack contained 7 or 8 caps depending on the cartridge makers contract and availability of caps. It was very rare to load pistols in the field with powder flask and ball or conical. Early war units that carried the Dragoons used the powder flask/ball but units with the 1851 Navy, 1860 Army and Remington NMA's almost exclusively used paper cartridges. I am sure there are exceptions to this, especially on the Southern militia side but by and large paper cartridges were the norm as was caps supplied in each cartridge pack.
What to wear in cold weather
Josepi The miner, that is a great idea for another video! As a general rule, most soldiers were issued a blanket, some type of rubber/painted cloth for rain, and a greatcoat. However, in winter quarters, soldiers slept in crude "cabins" with a canvas roof and a makeshift fireplace. We will put this topic on the agenda for this winter. Thanks for watching!
Ive always wanted to do reenacting not just to wear beautiful dresses, but to have a better understanding of how woman lived and how they helped the men during the war. does anyone have any reading material that could help me?
h2ohan1, unfortunately my knowledge is narrow and my ignorance is great. When it comes to do with anything civilian, especially women's clothing and traditions....I am utterly ignorant. I would simply ask you to google authentic women's clothing and daily activities during the 1860's. Sorry that i am not much help. But thanks for watching!
11th Ohio Volunteer Cavalry thats ok thanks anyways id like to reenact to honor my ancestors and ill look up womens clothing love your videos keep em coming. ps your videos are very informational and fun to watch not to mention ur easy on the eyes. Thanks again for ur help
Well, thanks!
Great video. However. There were several NY vol units (infantry cav and arty that wore the shorter Kepi and not the forage cap.
I like that you do not use the shoulder strap of your saber belt. Many, many original photos show them not being used; however nearly all reenactors use them.
An other great an informative video. .Thanks for all your videos. I love them. I noticed in all of them your sleeves seem too short. Did your jacket shrink? I had that happen one time and so bad I had to just give my jacket away.
Is this experiment over with or is it continuing?
Would you recommend c&c sutlery?
There not the best but there decent
you have some pretty interesting videos. this definitely stoked my interest for campaigner events.
Jacob, thanks for the comment and interest. While we don't even consider ourselves an authentic or campaigner unit as a whole, going to such events definitely has opened our eyes to how much fun reenacting can be. After a few years of doing the standard mainstream weekend events with almost the identical schedule and scenarios, we were looking for something different.
Either way, thanks for watching!
11th Ohio Volunteer Cavalry Right, we aren't either. But we have been talking amongst ourselves in my unit about setting some higher authenticity standards and doing some campaigner/progressive stuff. (issuing period rations, eating out of haversacks only, living out of bed rolls) Like you said, this hobby is nothing but gray and I'm excited to see the gray area between mainstream and progressive widening because that's where I see myself and I think it's something that alot of folks could get into.
Well said. Thanks for watching
How do you stand the heat in all them layers?
9th ID: LOL, you get used to it!
11th Ohio Volunteer Cavalry haha yeah I feel ya im a ww2 reenactor and wools + 100 degree weather do not mix😂
Rev War. I get to wear linen. :)
@@robertmccann5838 lucky lol
ITS HOT. You do get used it it.
Where do you buy slouch hats from
Tim Bender makes great slouch . His hats have been in many civil war movies.
you never mentioned the vest. From all I have read of fashion in the 19th century the shirt was considered underwear and it was not considered polite to wear just a shirt when taking off the jacket.
Chrisbreen119- Great question! We specifically didn't cover the vest because it was not an issued item to the troops. Vests were private purchase. This video focused on the standard issue items from the QM or Ordnance Dept. We have another video on shirts that addresses your comment about being appropriate when taking your jacket off. Thanks for watching!
I asked because I have been partaking of CAS for the past 15 years here in New Zealand and have been striving to be a period correct as possible. This is why In was looking at the social etiquette of clothing and what was considered correct. Being an ex soldier I know from personal experience how the military feel about troops being correct in their dress.@@11thovc
I ordered two leathers from Missouri boot and shoe maybe a month ago havent gotten them yet
Ethan, I obviously don't know the details around your specific order but the vast majority of the suppliers in our hobby is at least 6-8 weeks out. Expecting a supplier to send a product within a month is usually unrealistic. I know I wait an average of 6-12 months for most of the things we order. Double check the FAQ's on their website. Thanks for watching!
11th Ohio Volunteer Cavalry yeah I realized that I was watching another video some guy had to wait 1 year for a Sekela blanket I’m trying to make my impression more accurate with higher quality stuff anyway thanks for the knowledge
Thank you for your informative videos. Would you happen to know of any Confederate cav units that has youtube channels?
Siraleks79, Unfortunately we are unaware of any Confederate Cav units that are doing videos. Either way, thanks for watching!
Regulations called for trousers to be worn outside the boots but...
I will choose the correct equipment when it becomes cheap. Because people who make equipment for any era in history are selling their crap for extortionate prices. For Who in America has a way to consistently purchase things 200 dollars and over amount plus taxes. Then there the rifles/muskets that are like 10,000 or even 50,000 plus tax.
The American Civil War had the coolest looking uniforms
Do I need to wear hats?
Why wear longsjohns? Wouldn't you over heat?
not if its cold
7-round magazine? Is the Spencer carbine the rifle Confederates said, "You can load on Monday, and shoot 'till Sunday," ?
Thats the Henry rifle with 15 rounds
@@theanimalguy7 "And twice on Sunday!" How's that?
i got a 1856 tower musketoon for almost $500.00..a few years ago
Will you cover the standard infantry uniform and weapons?
Rex9399, Unfortunately not. This channel is dedicated to the under-focused-on cav side of things. There are a fair number of infantry videos out there and therefore will focus primarily on the cavalry side of things. If you have any questions feel free to ask and we will try to point you in the right direction.
11th Ohio Volunteer Cavalry Okay, thank you so much. One of my friends and I are just getting into the whole reenacting the U.S. Civil war thing, so I'm eager to find anything helpful. From your video, I was able to piece together a decent uniform, with your "NUG" tactic. Again, thank you so much!
Rex9399, You bet! You know... If you want to join the dark side, I am sure there is a Cav unit near you that would love to have you join!
11th Ohio Volunteer Cavalry Lol! I'll try and get in contact with a Cav regiment and see if they need one more soldier.
very helpful
What can you use when whit flat shorter and wide feet's?
Is this for enlisted
Might you .. send some links so I could know wherr to buy and not
Benus, what kind of impression are you looking for? Regiment? year? East vs West? We'll try to help out where we can!
@@11thovc uhm I guess a regular cs volunteer :| might you give me some advice
CAvarly is all good but in XX century I am more of your infantryman, grunts on the ground do all the work
Where do You buy ammunition for the weapons. A major impediment to getting interested in the hobby is being able to actually go out and shoot. If I want to bounce a ball i can drive 15-20 minutes to a number of places and find a wide variety . Not so with what I need for the very expensive wall hanger’s that I would love to shoot. Gavin Newsome and Pelosi make sure that We are well stocked with what it Takes to go on A Bender and get Stanked Out and Hammered. I can readily find Sports Cars that even a Kid can get into and go in excess of 120 miles per hour . But Flints , Musket Caps , black Powder , balls and Minie bullets, not so in the Bay Area of Calif or even within reasonable driving distance. So much for Thomas Jefferson’s advice to His Nephew.
How do you break in brogans
I'm amazed that you specify accuracy... but you keep saying "CALvary"
Can anyone recommend this but it's artillery
I've hunted with muzzle loader its a whole lot easier with those carbines but my dad got 3 shots off a muzzle loader in 15 seconds
He is so handsome!
Just got into Indian Wars impression, and I am currently borrowing uniforms for events. The unit were are portraying is 1870's Indian Wars, and I am an infantryman. I have been getting uniform parts here and there, so I no longer have to borrow peoples stuff, but it has been extremely difficult getting stuff that is specifically for the Indian Wars, everything is just Civil War, which is not entirely accurate to the uniform parts I need. Does anyone have any website, or advice to help me out with finding the proper uniforms parts I need. 1872 is the year to be more specific.
Google it
Does your carbine box have a wooden block that allows the Smith round to fit in the drilled out holes? If so, where did you get it? My carbine box has a wooden block that has holes too small for the Smith but fits other carbine cartridges like the Maynard, Gallager, and Burnside. I can't widen the holes any more because the wooden sides wood then be too thin.
Little House Guy:
Smith rounds are a bit more challenging than sharps, Spencer, or other similar carbines. I too have that same wooden block in my carbine box that is great for Spencer and Burnside rounds. I mainly use a sharps for most of my eastern impressions and use a sharps box with tins which works great.
However back to the Smith....I have not done enough research to know exactly how smith rounds were issued and what cartridge box was most commonly used for the Smith. The 11th Kansas Cav were issued smith carbines and I know they were issued a small number of "Burnside boxes" like the one you are using. Nothing else is specified on what the rest of the regiment used. So, from an authentic standpoint, I do not have enough information to answer your question. However, I personally use a cardboard divider for 20 cartridges that I insert into the box. I use "period cardboard" that is stiff and simply cut sections that fit together and make 20 slots for the smith rounds. Hope this helps, sorry that I could not provide a period answer.
Thanks, I've thought about using a cardboard divider myself but have realized it needs to be quite thin. Also, the wooden block seems to keep the other cartridge rounds a little higher in the box, making them easier to pull out. At present, my prototype cardboard divider leaves the rounds resting on the bottom of the box, a bit too low to easily take them out of the cartridge box on the field. Since my next trail walk requires more than twenty rounds, I think I'll just leave them loose so that I can fit more in the box.
Sounds a lot like us. We have a lot of "trial-and-error". I don't know why but Smith rounds seem a bit more difficult to make authentic.
Smith rounds have been much of a trial and error thing for myself as well. I just haven't gotten around to doing the research I need to do to figure out what was most common for troops using the Smith. Great gun thought! One of my favorites!
What about southern clothes
Dan, unfortunately we are pretty ignorant on the details needed to put a video together for the southern items. Our focus in our video is federal cavalry since that is our area of expertise. We agree there is a need for the southern side as well but unfortunately are not quite there yet ourselves! Maybe in the future. Thanks for watching!
when did the trapdoor carbines fit into the timeline?
Troy, The trapdoor carbine for the cavalry was adopted in May of 1873 and the 45-70 model that we all know was adopted in early 1874 when the San Antonio Arsenal requested this new cartridge for the spring campaign against the Comanches. And the end of March 1874, over 1,000 carbines were reported in field service in 6 out of the 10 regular cavalry regiments. Hope this helps!
The bandolier of my haversack is too long. It hangs up to my knees. :P
Tie a knot in it.
Why does the photo show the trooper with his carbine slung over his right shoulder?
Jeff, Poinsett's order #292 states:
"To dismount: ...Seize the carbine with the right hand, at the lower band; pass it over the right shoulder diagonally, the muzzle in the air, so that it cannot fall back..."
Or are you talking about the image at 4:02? If so, then we always need to keep in mind the difference of images of soldiers in the field vs. studio or other staged images as seen at 4:02. This was definitely a staged image to accentuate his accouterments.
This young man is handsome enough to be my grandson !! I have no grandchildren!!
Where did you purchase your forage cap ?
John Derosa, it is a Nick Sekela hat that can be found at the following address:
www.njsekela.com/product_info.php?cPath=27&products_id=43
NJ Sekela has awesome products but tends to take a LONG time (like 2 years for my MSJ) and has poor customer service. Worth getting as long as you know this. Sometimes you get lucky and get quick service....my LT sack coat only took about 5 weeks!
DRAWERS Im a Florida confeterate; don't need no stinking drawers.
I've noticed that some of the contemporary photo's are printed in reverse so (e.g at 20.12 minutes) what appears to be on the right side of the belt is actually on the left. Sorry if I am stating the obvious.
Elbowend Johnie, Yes. You are correct. Wet plates of the time used a lens that reversed the image.
Great and helpful video aside from audio
A video thats 4 years old is just now being recommend? Lol either way 160 years ago down south here wearing that yankee blue would be hazardous to ones health