Brands with THE WORST Maintenance Costs
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
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The Cost of Car Ownership Over Time: Expenses can skyrocket when warranty and free maintenance periods are over.
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Maintenance doesn’t scare me at all. It’s the unscheduled REPAIR issues.
DI engine maintenance does scare me. I stay away.
Then you have not owned and maintain a Porsche
Yes, these costs are for low mileage uses. When you drive longer and put higher mileage, the cost of your maintenance will be much higher. Thanks for the video.
I had a 2006 BMW 325. After the 4th year was $1,400 per year. The problem is not that they make expensive trash, it is people like me buying that trash
just got a call from local BMW to schedule a service for recall on our 2011 328 xDrive. Too bad we junked it 20 months ago due to the same failure.
These costs seem ridiculously low!! 1 Brake job on ANY of these vehicles will exceed your stated annual cost to repair!!
My sister just bought a 2008 BMW 535i yesterday without asking for my advice, she knows I’m a crazy car guy too…first thing I said was Big mistake! That early first-gen turbo N54 engine will take her to the cleaners with the maintenance of an originally $70k car.. Can’t help everyone though!
My heart sank when I read 2008 BMW. Man never ever buy anything old from Germany. You will pay so much
All that plastic too. That endless money pit
I’ve owned Audi, Mercedes, VW, and Volvo (never a BMW) and the maintenance costs for me, anyway, was always higher than on Toyotas or Mazdas that I’ve owned. The euro cars are sweet if you don’t mind coughing up the cash that eventual repairs are going to incur. For me, Mercedes was the worst. I sold my 2011 E-class Blutec and never looked back.
BMW is the worst culprit in my book. The only way I would ever own one is if I leased it for a few years and gave it back right when the warranty was up.
Had VW’s for past 17 years, nothing you could call an issue
Maintenance costs are completely different then the cost of component failures. Maintenance is to prolong the life of your engine, transmission to get the most life out of it. High end German cars after about 4 to 5 years will have many component failures that has nothing to do with maintenance. There are 3 different costs of running a car, maintenance, consumables/wear and tear brake pads, tires) and component failures. People who buy/lease these cars don’t care, because they will get rid of it every 3 years before these component failures happen. But the person who buys it when it’s 3 to 4 years old, good luck.
Consistent with my own experience. I only buy Japanese vehicles. Have owned Mazda, Subaru and now Toyota. Cost of ownership is much lower than US or other foreign brands. Lastly, I generally keep my vehicles for around 150K miles. Never had a problem doing that with Japanese vehicles.
@@keithbellair9508 Don't disagree on your point, but am mainly focused on reliability and cost of ownership.
@@keithbellair9508 10 years behind is where it's at today. Give MPI, not DI. How many engines in 2022 are port injected?? I rest my case.
What is the definition of maintenance? What does it include? These figures so low that a lot of costs must not be considered.
Honestly those costs seem generous based on some of the official figures quoted by YT rebuilders and flippers of older German cars, even non crashed ones.
They get by because they know all the after market sources, tricks, workarounds and of course they DIY.
Your figures sound WAAAAAY too low! Are you sure those are per year costs and not per month costs? I just dropped $350 yesterday for a worn out exhaust solenoid on a 2015 Nissan Rogue --- and that was after close to $1,000 the week before for the brakes, transmission flush, and a bunch of other little things. And I maintain this regularly, all the routine service every 15K miles plus oil change every 7,500. Our 2012 Subaru Outback, I easily spend $1,000 a year on maintenance. I would LOVE to pay only $250 a year on maintenance!
^^all of this. Thank you. Coming from a 2013 G37x sedan owner. I laughed pretty loud when he discussed how cheap a 10-year old Cadillac can be to own & maintain.
There is a reason why these luxury cars depreciate faster than used mattresses.
It is what it is.. like my man said these are just facts being relayed and it's kinda obvious some of the higher end brands are not always "built" better.. you just pay for the name. Appreciate the video!
@@keithbellair9508 the bad thing is with all that technology if the build quality isn't good then all that technology means nothing.. except you will pay for an expensive paperweight at some point
@@keithbellair9508 true.. but on that note the build quality matches the tech. If that same BMW was is the shop all the time from breaking down then would the feeling be the same?
LOL my 2021 Porsche coat $250 for an oil change.
I had a 2004 BMW 3 series. Pile of trash.
Great info Thanks!! I’m getting ready to purchase a 2019 Cadillac XT5 w/ 34k miles on it.. glad to hear maintenance on it should be pretty reasonable!!
It’s nice to see domestic brands ranked high. I’m burned out on Asian manufacturers and would really like to see American brands do well.
Lol “domestic brands”
-parts from China
-assembled in Mexico
@@antcantcook960 Says the guy who’s probably typing on a phone made in Asia and probably drives a Honda Civic with a fart can. Have a coke and a smile
That’s the problem, most American brands don’t do well lol
American cars are such junk, this is the first time they've ever been worth anything lol. Still ain't.
I've noticed before your review that all the German brands seem to have more problems than any other car brand. I have also noticed that so many of the older German cars seem to have electrical issues with their head and taillights.
@@keithbellair9508 "More for your money"? As in good value for the price?? German cars??? 😂
I think the German car mystique was developed by early early VWs and Mercedes Benzes. Both brands built there cars well back in the day... The Japanese paid attention and now they are outgoing them in terms of reliability. Many people now point to the Korean marquees as the up and comers. Only time will tell.
@@keithbellair9508 yeah, a Porsche is much better than a Scion too. Compare BMW to Acura, Lexus, Genesis, infinity, & Lincoln. Not Honda, Toyota, Hyundai, Nissan, and Ford. It's a luxury brand, compare it to other luxury class brands
I have a 2012 Mercedes and I pay an average of $2,000 per year on maintenance. It’s been a nightmare (my last bill last month for 2024 was $5,800). I keep thinking now that I’ve sunk his much I might as well keep it and it will now last without maintenance but again a year later wrong.
Bro $900 a year where im from is a blessing for a german car.
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You have to weigh all that up against what you would lose putting it in after every 3 years and the extra to pay for a new one, it would cost a lot more than that I would say.
Those numbers are way too low. It's about $35 for me to do DIY oil changes every 5000 miles and I do 4 per year. So $140 for a Prius C and its tiny engine. Dealer costs would be a lot more. Plus you have to do the rest of the work like Air Filter, cabin Filter, transmission, brakes and brake fluid, tires, windshield wipers, coolant.
Does my 20 year old Volkswagen Passat count as an endless money pit
Having owned a BMW in the past and the Mrs currently driving a Volvo... I agree, those are insanely expensive to run, considering they don't really offer that much special in exchange. The Volvo is boring, and my Bimmer was stupidly uncomfortable, not matter how much money into repairs I poured.
Then again, a single most expensive repair I've ever had to do to a car, was for a... 10-year old Hyundai. Complete engine and turbocharger swap, 7.500€ total and that only covered me used high mileage engine and refurbished turbo. Brand new ones would have doubled the price.
Those numbers seem really low or don't include standard maintenance like brakes and tires
You should review the updated survey I think from Consumer reports. It added Tesla to the mix and I think the numbers are absolutely insane! I won't spoil it, but It would make for a good video!
Outstanding as always Dave. 👍👍👍👍👍👍
I drive a '15 Crosstrek w/48,000 mi. I have the (synthetic) oil changed twice a year-$200. In '20 I got wiper blades' front & back- $65. I just got tires $600. Then I had it detailed $150. I love it because the gas mi is awesome' I'm short and it's a comfy ride for us shorties. Never been off roading.
I am interested in a '19 low mileage Caddy XT4. Do you think a turbo would burn more oil? Prob won't get it because of the gas mileage :/
For a second, I thought u had a doo-rag on
I’m sorry I distracted you with my head wear, I didn’t mean to.
@Michael Bellett Hey, what about DEI????
Well this study/survey should be broken down further, specifically because the parts cost of a BMW or Audi is not going to be the same parts cost for the SAME EXACT PART as on a Honda or Toyota, for example a water pump. So you have *frequency* of maintenance/repair and also differences in *parts cost* and *labor rates.* It really doesn't dissect the numbers enough for me for my taste. I think it should be generally summed up as, if you want to blow your money without end, buy a German car, if you value your money, buy an Asian vehicle. Enough said.
Yes, though if you can diy either can be very reasonable. 12 years that I’ve had my 06 BMW and I’ve averaged about $100 a year in repairs.
and what about the european cars?
Did I miss something?? Why is Land Rover Not on the list??🤔
These costs are pretty decent actually. Not bad.
Thanks for the info amigo!
Had 2 mercedes no real issues , but they were "entry level", staying low in the "mercedes alphabet" certainly helps
Are those people surveyed the ones that skip on services? Brake parts alone cost what a yearly cost is.
I only lease for 3 years, and never have any expenses except oil changes and tire rotations, and I only lease Kia vehicles, never had a single problem with any of them and I'm on lease #6
Why lease and not own?
@@lt.2992 Lower monthly payment, no surprises.
Your thumbnail has me feeling personally attacked 😂
Those costs are actually not that high. I was actually surprised by how low they are.
I mean people are financing mid-market new cars for $700 or $800 per month. And a lease on a luxury car is about that much.
If I had a ten year old luxury car and was only paying $800/year on maintenance, I wouldn’t be too upset.
it’s for new cars, it gets expensive as it gets older
@@keithbellair9508 I completely agree. The best strategy is to buy a reliable car and keep it long term. But people want shiny new objects. Oh well.
@@keithbellair9508 I've tinted widows on cars that I have leased with no issues at turn in.
I’m very lucky, my lifestyle doesn’t put many miles on my 19 Cruze. I’m averaging about 19.6 a day in the last seven months. I’m certainly hoping it doesn’t change much.
Just make sure you drive a decent long distance every few days. 30 miles or more. 50 to 100 would be even better.
Hi @everyman drivers I am actually planning to buy a VW Toas and really loved the way it drove .. please let me know if this is a good choice to buy that car .. in terms of reliability and maintenance
Hey Dave, did I miss you listing Honda in your video in terms of 5 and 10 year maintenance costs?
There are 26 brands … I named the top eight or so and the bottom eight or so…, so if you didn’t hear me say Honda it’s right there in the middle.
@@everymandriver Thanks Dave. I appreciate your transparency!
Unclear what these numbers refer to… maintenance is not the issue. It’s repairs. no way these numbers are anywhere close to the actual costs per year to own, separate from depreciation.
Kia maintenance only seems affordable because they’re cheap cars, cheap parts. Old kias stay in the shop.
What old Kias?
@@genoaoakmagnetis and forte
Thanks for the information 👍🏽
I had wondered what Ron Radio looked like.
What category does Honda fall into? Good or bad?
Among the best. The repairs are often expensive, but they don't break as often as most, resulting in lower overall cost.
@@wtk6069 whew! I have a Honda. 😁
Asian cars are best I think on my own opinion 🎉
Oddly, I have a 2015 Model is a 3 it’s not European. And I save all my receipts , from normal wear and tear to an extra bit that shouldn’t of given out after warranty was up .. my total of the past 7 years with this vehicle is $7000 ummm that’s $1000 a year… All dealer maintained … so much for Asian inexpensive repairs …
Bro skipped Mitsubishi like leg day at the gym
What?
Boy you guys have got it bad over there … Here in the land down under we average a 5 year warranty period and unlimited miles on most new vehicles. Some have 7 years Such as Hyundai and Kia and Mitsubishi even have 10 years, albeit that you only service the car with them for the whole ten.
Great info 😊
Great video, I like it.
YOU HAVE evidence to back it up
You know, you could have put your chart on the screen. That way I could have seen that my car was not on the list immediately.
Out of all brands, why you say that about lincolns? “Alright, alright, alright” 😂 I’m confused
I would have thought the costs of a KIA or Hyundai would have been a little better. With a 5 year bumper to bumper warranty and 100,000 on the drive train I expected smaller numbers. Shows you what I know.
The maintenance is why they can have the big warranty.
@@davestvwatching2408 …..Hey Dave what do you mean maintenance?
@@richardrybarczyk1143 Oil Changes at the proper intervals, Air Filter, Brake Fluid, Brake Inspections, Coolant, transmission Fluid, Cabin Air Filter, Power Steering Fluid (if applicable) Tires. Windshield Wipers. Maybe a fuel injection clean plus air intake service (especially for Direct Injection engines). There might be more. You can have the maintenance done at the dealer or a certified mechanic. Keep all records.
@@davestvwatching2408 ….That’s just normal maintenance on any vehicle, if you can give a 5 year bumper to bumper warranty you have to make good stuff or go broke. I do give them credit for that.
Get a Honda!! We have 2...just change the oil, and go get your 40 highway miles per gallon..both are 10 years old, hardly nothing to fix on them! I prefer Hondas over Toyotas!
Hey! How come you didn't bring up LEXUS?!?!
this doesn't include tires lol price is a lot more
Great vid
You aren’t including the mfr recommended maint visits to the dealer.
How is Mitsubishi Lancer?
In what world is this? It’s 300 Canadian bucks for my 2019 X3 oil change and 1000 for brake light pads hmmmm
Does Jeep count my third eldest sister had her tranny commit suicide on her 2012 Jeep Patriot and yes it’s a CVT.
Same Jatco CVT as the Nissans.
Worst year for Jeeps. Do your homework.
What about Honda?
What about repairs cost
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I noticed you didn’t mentioned Honda
You won't have any maintenance costs for Kia or Hyundai, It'll get stolen before then.
Let’s go USA 🇺🇸 Ford and gm motors
Simple... Germans saved you 1
Hour of a long video.
Toyota, 2005, 17 years old, so boring cause the maintenance is very very minimal. Have fun giving your money away on junk in 3 years.
That kid is awesome 😎👍🏼
Honda Toyota best
2004 nissan quest was the biggest peace of junk ever worst engine ever
Something not right, numbers don't make sense
You speak to fast and you should have put a list on the screen