Someone needs to tell the young Indian guy he made the best decision turning back. #1 for his own survival. #2 It was a brave protest of the situation. The people who continued are idiots. I'd love to climb Everest but the way it's currently being mismanaged is despicable.
I have more respect for those who turn around than for those who push on and shouldn't have. Well done young man, a difficult decision but the correct one.
Only my eyeballs climb the mountain from my computer chair in South Dakota. I even want to turn around and go back down watching these people struggle.
Turning around so close to the summit is in some ways more of an accomplishment than actually summiting. It takes an incredible amount of strength and personal fortitude to overcome that fever and say in the moment, "Nope, my life is worth more than this."
I don't know why, but I'm hooked on these extreme mountain climbing documentaries. So interesting. Probably because I know it's something I'll never do. Hell, I won't even go in the ocean if I can't see the bottom...
Well, not everyone can be in this club. That's from someone who summited Haystack Mountain in the Adirondacks in summer camp. We even sang "Puff the Magic Dragon" up there. We were crazy! 😆
Anjali was advised by sherpas not to attempt the summit as they were concerned about her capacity to make it. She didn't. The video of her struggling in the snow is a bit hard to watch. I've read a translation of what the Sherpa is saying to her. "Get up!" "I told you this morning to not attempt the summit, you're not strong enough. But you didn't listen." "I'm sorry Mrs Anjali."
thanks for the translation. I found this couple’s story the least relatable in this documentary. I don’t know why the husband referred to her as mountaineer. His actions contributed to her death. Why did they separate on the ascent? They are a glowing example of the commercial exploit of Everest. Just because you are passionate about something doesn’t make you an expert, especially not mountaineering.
@@riquelmeone See their entire documentary (the husband has one on youtube). The couple had climbed the highest peaks in each continent. They had spent a lot of time training for Everest, please don't make stupid judgements without knowing the full story. I find it really annoying with all the westerners (even in the documentary) saying Indians have no skill and are inexperienced climbers. So many westerners have died on the mountain too. A lot of western inexperienced and arrogant climbers come here too. Show some respect for the locals. What a stupid ignorant comment from you!
@@zapfanzapfan - I wouldn't mind seeing if I could make it up to camp four, but wouldn't bother trying for the summit. I know my limitations, unlike too many others. 😥
When the Indian climber made the decision to go down he made a decision to be with his family and those who loved him. What a mountaineer! From someone with no family, hats off dude!
@@TheWhoever118 I'm talking about the young, single guy. Perhaps I should've clarified it with "the man who didn't summit". The climber that left his wife wasn't the one making a decision to be with family and those who loved him.
The idea of summiting with so many people like that ruins the experience to my mind. Aside from the obvious dangers, who wants to be in a queue on top of one of the most beautiful places in the world?
These people aren't doing it for the experience for the most part they were doing it for the status, they knew they could hide the line in their selfies and that they could leave that part out of the story.
Rezza is so right, maybe he could have made the summit, but what does that matter if you die coming back down? It means nothing then, just grief for your family. Rezza's story is a success story because he survived.
16 Sheraps were killed on Mt Everest in the 2014 season. Seems to always be more focus on the climbers who pay up to $100,000 to climb there, than the Sherpas who earn less than $2000 for the whole season
Sherpa guides on Everest make $5-8k USD per season. About 7 times the average Nepalese wage. Doesn't seem to bad till you consider western guides make around $50k per season!
@@vidpromjm Sort of a myth of the Sherpa. Sherpa guides are amazing, sometimes, but a lot of them also have literally no qualifications at all. You might have a good guide or a really bad one. Everyone is told they're amazing and brilliant, but some of the deaths have definitely been due to Sherpa not being as good as Western guides, and Western Guides relying on them too heavily. Western guides are trained in communication, they have actual, proper mountaineering training. They're not just random people who climb mountains, they actually train and have a professional, western attitude. 5-8k is pretty good, considering that the western guides have spent probably atleast a million dollars in getting the qualifications and travelling around the world climbing mountains all over the place. Sherpa don't spend a million dollars before they become a guide. No one gets paid well for jobs without qualifications. That's true literally everywhere. If the Sherpa made it so you needed to spend $100k and get accredited qualifications to become a Sherpa guide, then they'd definitely get a hefty pay rise. Could probably earn 20k a season.
@19:44 when he said "I spent most of the time on Everest all alone in my tent" the hair on my arms immediately stood up! I can't imagine the level of fear he must've felt, the sense of abandonment from the people he thought he'd be climbing with & lastly, just questioning everything he thought he knew must've been so overwhelmingly frightening for him.
I think Rizza is remarkable in how he turned back on a life long ambition and almost seen 'the light' when it comes to a big issue not only on Everest but everywhere in the world. A lot of people have become very self absorbed.
I love mountaineering, but nobody will see me anywhere near Everest. There is nothing as awesome as having a beautiful (and I mean esthetically pretty) mountain just for yourself and climbing it with a group of really good friends helping each other. It does not need to be 8000m high. That is what adventure and mountaineering are for me ♡
I go into the wilderness to avoid other people/be with close friends. Its the only sanctuary from society, to have commercialized the wilderness is oxymoronic to me.
The guy who lost his wife, was lying to himself when he said that had they known there would be such a queue, they would not have attempted to summit. While I understand why he has convinced himself of that, especially considering they had, as he said, agreed that at the first sign of trouble they would turn back and that he was the one responsible for making that call, the fact is that he spent hours in that queue, plenty of time to come to the obvious conclusion that it was taking too long. He got summit fever, he failed to make the decision that would have saved his wife. I’m not judging him by the way. I can’t say I would have done any better.
It would have been the talk of the base camp considering that 3 day window. All would know there would be a que with hundreds of people and Sherpas, I think the time is fast coming when true mountaineers won't go near Everest because it has become a tourist trap.
@@maryjanedodoYeah, it's mind blowing. I know it's for me to say from here what I'd do...but I swear on my life that I wouldn't leave my wife's side for a second on something like this. And at the first sign of trouble, we'd BOTH be heading back. And if she needed my oxygen, I'd give it to her without even thinking about it. Him leaving her behind blows my mind.
Where was her sherpa? What kind of man leaves his wife in a life threatening situation and goes off to do anything else? By his actions, letting his wife fall behind him, he showed what his true values were. Getting a selfie at the top was more important to him than his wife's life.
@@tshepherd8145 I spoke to 'sherpas' or 'porters' about this in Nepal. They really disliked being called sherpas because they aren't part of the Sherpa ethnic group. They prefer to be called assistant guides. Not all Sherpas are sherpas and not all sherpas are Sherpas I think they are only synonymous because of a lack of understanding on a global scale ☃️
I did a trek in Nepal with a Sherpa (ethnically Sherpa and a good guide) with several 7000's under his belt. When we were at altitude (not anything like an 8,000) and he told me I was going too slowly, I dropped my pride and listened. But it took him telling me twice. It's hard to listen to someone you've hired tell you that you're not up to some challenge or that the conditions are wrong. You want to do what you went there to do, not be told why you can't do it.
Absolutely fantastic documentary! So many voices the western climbing community doesn’t get to hear, from climbers to sherpas to business owners. Lovely interviews, just letting everyone talk and not speaking over them. Appreciated the very broad look at the whole system, not just the exciting and titillating bits. Thanks so much for making this and doing all the translation work for english-speakers!
@@DavidSnowClimbing How did you (or the creators if you're just uploading) make such an amazing, international piece in the time of Covid? Also, the access it must have took to show & interview so many different people! It's so rare to see a doc that shows you different objective opinions, not _forcing_ a point of view, but letting us understand the overall facts that informs our conclusion! Amazing! Thanks for bringing this to RUclips!
@@DavidSnowClimbing I've never climbed any real mountain, but have a fascination with those that do. Your work brings their stories to the language and grasp of the common man, thank you very much!
I loved that elderly mother who was listening to her gung-ho son talking about his planned climb. You could read what she really wanted to say right on her face. In the end she just went to her home shrine and started praying. I guess she knew exactly how much she'd be listened to by her son.
There is an ultimate lesson in intimacy that many will not face until already in the grips of their last breath of life! Whether climbing Everest or trying to reach one of the many other pinnacles in life that we set for ourselves: "Pride goes before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall. Better it is to be of an humble spirit with the lowly, than to divide the spoil with the proud. He that handles a matter wisely shall find good: and whoso trusts in the LORD, happy is he." (Pro 16:18-20) I have never been able to separate myself from a soul facing his or her self determination in eternal damnation of soul! To me, it's like walking off or sitting, with hands clasped, arms folded, and watching someone commit suicide! Just writing off another poor soul who has made a bad choice for themselves is not an option! The certainty of a deathbed is not an ideal opportunity for assiting anyone in a life choice but a Believer in Messiah Yeshua has the responsibility and ordination from Father God, as an help meet! As a born again Christian, I am my brothers keeper! I could never go back and get this shot (opportunity) again, neither could I ever sleep again in peace with the haunting memory of someone in my realm of influence having died, in the commission of the ultimate suicide in unbelief: that eternal death of soul; forsaking our Creator's salvation, already purchased, in His perfect blood sacrifice, of love! Throughout life, we all are climbing, in the deathzone, of sin, not without oxygen but without our Savior and His Holy Spirit! "O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. But thanks be to the grace of God, which gives us the victory through faith in our Lord Jesus Christ." (Isa 25:8, 1Co 15: 55-57) Love in Messiah, Richard
Wow, first thing the director of that “budget” climb team says is essentially “it’s ok those people died because it got me business”, then he blames his clients for having health issues and for not speaking up when they’re feeling ill. Bro, they’re basically tripping balls at that point as a their bodies are dying, YOU need to be able to assess your client’s abilities, mindset, and physical condition for them since they’ve also never even been on a mountain before! I’m so disgusted by this guy’s flagrant disregard for life, and disrespect for the mountain.
There is an ultimate lesson in intimacy that many will not face until already in the grips of their last breath of life! Whether climbing Everest or trying to reach one of the many other pinnacles in life that we set for ourselves: "Pride goes before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall. Better it is to be of an humble spirit with the lowly, than to divide the spoil with the proud. He that handles a matter wisely shall find good: and whoso trusts in the LORD, happy is he." (Pro 16:18-20) I have never been able to separate myself from a soul facing his or her self determination in eternal damnation of soul! To me, it's like walking off or sitting, with hands clasped, arms folded, and watching someone commit suicide! Just writing off another poor soul who has made a bad choice for themselves is not an option! The certainty of a deathbed is not an ideal opportunity for assiting anyone in a life choice but a Believer in Messiah Yeshua has the responsibility and ordination from Father God, as an help meet! As a born again Christian, I am my brothers keeper! I could never go back and get this shot (opportunity) again, neither could I ever sleep again in peace with the haunting memory of someone in my realm of influence having died, in the commission of the ultimate suicide in unbelief: that eternal death of soul; forsaking our Creator's salvation, already purchased, in His perfect blood sacrifice, of love! Throughout life, we all are climbing, in the deathzone, of sin, not without oxygen but without our Savior and His Holy Spirit! "O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. But thanks be to the grace of God, which gives us the victory through faith in our Lord Jesus Christ." (Isa 25:8, 1Co 15: 55-57) Love in Messiah, Richard
There is a huge difference in preparation for a climb of this magnitude. A humble wise climber will always say, " I have a chance to acclimate", "a chance to be on the summit team," " a chance to summit". Instead so many believe that if they pay enough, diet and work out enough, get with the outfit that summits the most, I'm guaranteed a summit. Everyone does summit. That is the point in which wisdom, common sense, and your body all tell you, "this is your summit, you can do no more, go back". You can't bring back any wisdom from the mountain if you don't come back.
@Big Cat Little Lion Yes. The halfway point is the summit. Most climbers that die on Everest, die on the way down. Some from underestimating how much O2 they use to summit, leaving considerably less for the way down. Even with stashes. Sad. I bombed a climb in the Rockies before by becoming slightly hypoxic before attempting to alter plans during a climb. My brother and I were dragging and when it came time for us to alternate plans, we asked one another to write down the sentence, "how am i feeling?" and gave it to one another to read. We both wrote hen scratching jibberish lol . I swore I wrote it perfectly, he did too. Since we were asking the question, we thought it best to pack it in and head down to our camp at 12,000 feet. We were up there for 3 days acclimatizing but apparently were in no mind to make the attempt before we ever started out..
Absolutely true. I know few professional climbers, even they making number of attempts to get to the top, and if it’s not possible, they go home and try next season. How they say: it’s not about pushing yourself and suffering, it’s about preparing yourself and acclimating that so it is mostly enjoyable.
Bro, you turned around and now you’re living to tell about it. Your family and friends didn’t have to grieve your loss. It will always be there to try again. Over and over I’ve seen in these videos and have read stories that it’s the people who DON’T listen to the sherpa’s who are still up on that mountain. Frozen solid for eternity.
There are so many more opportunities to live a great live. You don't need to take a risk in such a difficult situation. Maybe he will stand on top of Everest some day, maybe not. But he doesn't let Everest define his life, he defines his live. I am yet to hear from anyone who turned around at Everest that s/he regrets it. Just countless stories of people who had to rely on rescue efforts or simply died trying. It is not weakness that makes you turn around, it is insight into the situation. And it is not strength that lets you go on, it is stubbornness. There are too many stories told by people who were just increadibly lucky, when they pushed on for bad reasons. So take the time to listen to the stories of those who were unlucky and can not tell the story themselves anymore.
@@nilsp9426 So true. Always be aware of nature. You can see it, hear it, and smell it. Once you understand that, nature will show you when it is angry and dangerous. Trust your ancient instincts, and you will hopefully have a long and happy life.
My disability taught me from a young age that "If I can do it, anybody can" is a very dangerous thing to say, and you should question the insight of anyone who tells you that.
There is an ultimate lesson in intimacy that many will not face until already in the grips of their last breath of life! Whether climbing Everest or trying to reach one of the many other pinnacles in life that we set for ourselves: "Pride goes before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall. Better it is to be of an humble spirit with the lowly, than to divide the spoil with the proud. He that handles a matter wisely shall find good: and whoso trusts in the LORD, happy is he." (Pro 16:18-20) I have never been able to separate myself from a soul facing his or her self determination in eternal damnation of soul! To me, it's like walking off or sitting, with hands clasped, arms folded, and watching someone commit suicide! Just writing off another poor soul who has made a bad choice for themselves is not an option! The certainty of a deathbed is not an ideal opportunity for assiting anyone in a life choice but a Believer in Messiah Yeshua has the responsibility and ordination from Father God, as an help meet! As a born again Christian, I am my brothers keeper! I could never go back and get this shot (opportunity) again, neither could I ever sleep again in peace with the haunting memory of someone in my realm of influence having died, in the commission of the ultimate suicide in unbelief: that eternal death of soul; forsaking our Creator's salvation, already purchased, in His perfect blood sacrifice, of love! Throughout life, we all are climbing, in the deathzone, of sin, without our Savior! "O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. But thanks be to the grace of God, which gives us the victory through faith in our Lord Jesus Christ." (Isa 25:8, 1Co 15: 55-57) Love in Messiah, Richard
I’m SO impressed by the young Indian climber… he exudes such a positive energy and comes across as wise well beyond his 19 years. I have sons his age who I’m very proud of, and I bet his mum is PROUD of him, I would be if I was his mum! Well done him
Honestly i've got mixed feelings about the story of the married couple, i could not leave the side of anyone i love in dangerous place such as this, expecially in the conditions they were in. "If we hit the slightest complication we will get back, i'll make the decision if it comes to this" immediatly runs in a human traffic jam on the side of fucking Everest and proceed to leave his wife behind to get his summit. I do not doubt his pain but man that's hard to sympathise with this story, especially the way it was told.
Thats what I thought. I would be VERY ashamed if I chose to leave my wife behind, a person whom I make an oath for being together for the rest of my life, for a frickin summit.
@@ABSF49 Great Film " Everest for Mountaineers" from training to summit, beautiful doc. It will help anyone understand the foolhardiness of tourist climbers.
I understood that he had already summited and was on his way back down when he encountered his wife already in severe distress. It’s horrible and heartbreaking - she was already dying and there was no oxygen. He would’ve 100% died too if he’d stayed and probably his sherpa, too. The only real choice was one death or 3 at that point. How gut wrenching.
There were several people during 2019 who summitted but died afterwards in their sleep on the way down from the stress they put on their body. Reeza absolutely did the right thing turning back.
Wow, thats crazy scary. I wonder if the oxygen tanks could be improved or if they had an alert on their mask that indicated they need to turn back if they want oxygen for the decline.
@@laurenbendik2006 Every decent oxygen tank has alarms, timers, and monitors. You know exactly how much you have left. What you don't know is how much your body will use when you are struggling for hours.
@@laurenbendik2006 It probably had very little to do with oxygen at that point, and more to do with the combined stress and exertion of the whole thing. Like people who die after running a race.
Only possible if you’re Max Verstappen! (entered his first F1 race at 17 before having a drivers license). He had been driving open-wheel vehicles since he was a small child tho
Give them another 10 years, and I'm certain that will happen. Going to the summit of Everest will soon be as easy as walking up an escalator at the local mall.
y’all are so delusional, basic machinery has a hard time operating under these conditions. let alone the amount of maintaining of said structures would be near impossible. keep dreaming
@@timothyjohnson1238 I’d imagine the same applies to space exploration re basic machinery and maintenance and yet, we manage that to the point that tourists now are able to visit the international space station - if they’ve a spare 40 million or so.
When youre finishhed, then watch k2, then annapurna. There are everest documentaries that i've watched 40 times. Every time life is hard, I find peace in mountainering docs. As Mark Woodward said. You cut away all the extra stuff in life, Its just you and the mountain. Or as Beck Weathers says. Ive lived my life in profound depression, but i discovered that when i climb, i dont think, the lack of thinking is what draws me. So yeah, some people tend to drugs, some alcohol, some sex, well.. I go to the mountains.
Me too the algorithm started from seeing something on the news regarding a girl tourist falling off a cliff by accident in my town, I later started searching cliff climbing videos ,mountain climbing, rock climbing and many more extreme sports my favorites were probably the athletes; dean potter , candide thovex , and Mount Everest 1996 expedition
I like the little taste of the sherpa's reality there in the end, he seemed so frustrated like "take some responsibility" and honestly I felt that after this whole thing
My impression of Everest and Himalayan mountaineering in general is that there is a considerable amount of randomness to climbing fatalities. An avalanche will probably kill your regardless of your mountaineering skill. Altitude sickness is known to strike even experienced climbers. If one puts ever greater numbers of people in the “death zone” in any given year, the number of deaths will increase.
"There is a considerable amount of randomness to climbing fatalities" -- this hits home for me, for the same is very true in war. Death seems so arbitrary in that world, and survival can have absolutely nothing to do with skill or experience and absolutely everything to do with pure chance or luck. And for whatever reason(s) the gods let you live another day.
If i am climbing at 8000 meters plus , the time spent at that altitude is deadly, if someone blocks me causeing me to spend more time in the dead zone they are endangering my life, i can accept that increased risk, retreat, push them out of my way. Will i be committing a crime if i push them aside? If someone blocks me when attempting to escape a burning building will i be committing a crime if i push them aside? Can i or my family sue them for any injury to me? Can i sue the climbing business for injury ?
@@ravarga4631 This is not a burning building though. While both deadly, only one is entirely voluntary for all of the participants. I agree though that there are lots of interesting moral dilemmas at this altitude. It takes a special type, I would say a bit of narcissism if you have loved ones, to pursue this in the 1st place.
There is an accepted protocol, deta h from the rope, step ahead, reattach to the rope or detach, turn 180, reattach, retreat. Help no one because that would kill both as proven over time. I would never place myself there esp once i had kids. I am ot better than them, they are neither better or worse than me. Not my kind of personality. Good luck to them.
When you here about Lincoln Hall, there's basically no way you can climb Everest and have a clue about whether you're going to die or not. The guy had done a ton of climbing for decades and then just gets cerebral edema.
I've been in the Swiss mountains taking a specialized train and ended up on a 3100 meters outlook. It was a regular tourist spot with a restaurant and all. There was a small way up another outlook (50 steps up the hill) and I was already heaving by talking ONLY 10 steps. I'm not overweight and I do sports… and this really showed me that climbing a mountain for real is SOMETHING else. I couldn't imagine how it must be to climb, take a few steps, and breathing like it was some sort of marathon.
Interesting, I have never experienced any difference in performance even on 4000 peaks. Maybe because you did not walk up there but you took the train it was too fast for your body...
i know what you are talking about and i’ve only! tried walking up to 2000 metres and at some point, when it was only half an hour walk from the top, each step made me more breathless, i’ve waited, got more dizzy, waking up 50 m took about an hour lol. and then close to fainting i had to give up n walk down. and i felt better with each step.. maybe because i’ve really low blood pressure naturally, maybe cause i’ve asthma, but unfortunately it’s not for me🤷🏻♀️ but mountains are quite beautiful
That’s altitude sickness. You’ve not acclimated. I went to Cuzco and was relatively fit at the time. I’d most certainly lugged my backpack everywhere before then but the very short flight of stairs in the hotel had me gasping. Later, it was no longer an issue. Altitude was the only thing I hadn’t been able to prep for since there is nothing high enough where I live.
How the hell did the first pioneers of Everest do all that climbing with less to nothing for protection from the elements....I have mad respect for the sherpas who grunted climbed. RIP 2 THOSE TRUE PIONEERS.
They actually had to use climbing axes and use each other's bodies as a ladder while climbing. They weren't tourists who get pushed and pulled to the top by help of sherpas like most of today's climbers on everest.
This is beyond crazy, queuing in the death zone. I was in shock when I saw those pictures circulating two years ago. I didn't know whether to laugh or cry.
@@silasmarner7586 I agree, they queued in 96, too. It's a bit like Venice where the beauty of the city gets lost in the crowds (only there you won't die of lack of oxygen). An overcrowded tourist destination. But having it posted on Instagram live was so...weird. It's one thing hearing about that occasionally and another to have those pictures streamed directl.
People die in the mountains all over the world, not just at high altitude, through lack of experience and common sense. I´ve turned ppl around in winter conditions on the mountains in England who were lost and ill equipped to deal with the weather. And had a friend call me from a trekking peak in the Himalayas when I was on the other side of the globe because he was having a panic attack. I simply told him one of the oldest adages that applies to mountains everywhere; You don´t have to do this. Noone really cares if you do or not. The mountain will still be there, it´s up to you to make sure you are too.
@@angelasepi657 You say that but I wonder how you'd feel with a permit in hand, a team standing by, and the view of one of the most beautiful summits ahead of you.
Nepal don't care about the lives lost. They want the money. They justify it by saying well it's their choice. Pay first thou before you go. Like the thousands of scam call centers in India. They don't clamp down on them. They make big bucks for the economy screwing the rich americans that exploit the factory workers and legitimate call centers.
I just saw a video that said a big tragedy happened in 1996. Standing in line for 2 hours at the Hillary Step is just not good at all, even for experienced climbers. Everest was one woman's first mountain hike. Please. This should not even be allowed.
I have so much respect for Reeza. Very brave and wise to turn around. To me that's a vastly larger achievement. He's a great example to others and may he always hold his head high
Come on guys, stop flapping your gums. He made it to the top so was clearly very strong and fit. Not a weekend warrior. I expect she would have made it but ran out of oxygen. There's a question around this, was it a faulty gauge? A leak etc. Yes there were queues but it may have been exacerbated very equipment failure. She made it above 8000m so very strong also. He's not responsible for her being there. That was a joint decision. I'm sure he regrets allowing them to separate, but you can't hold someone responsible for actions under those conditions. Exhausted and starved of oxygen you won't make the same decision you would make at sea level.
I know right and you can see his wife is struggling even just during trekking, she's struggling to smile, speak, catch her breath. He seems somewhat fit, but what fools. Good that he had the courage to speak about his experience so that more lives will be saved. "We did 28 days of training. We're trekkers." that's like saying 'We've been in a plane before, so we can be astronauts'. What other 8000ers have they done? A new Merc or Everest, what a travesty. Mallory, Irvine, Tenzing and Hillary would be dumbfounded. EDIT: Omg he wants to get her body back...
@@annep.1905 I have an odd curiosity of, how do they even go to the bathroom up at the highest camp and summit. I guess their body uses it all up and you have nothing to potty out, but like everyone has to pee. And summit push lasts an entire day.
@@GrumpyKay I have no way of knowing. Somebody else said somewhere that they use bags like what the infirm people use. I was responding to the comment about how the number of dead could have been much higher. It already has been double 11 in a year... at least.
Stunning photo! Next season I plan to be the first man over 70 to reach the summit on a Pogo Stick wearing a clown suit. I am bring some tough Sherpa men to push these tourists out of my way! Better stay home next year because I am coming!
@@CourtneyRussRuss you people clearly don't understand sarcasm. His point was that no one cares nowadays if you are the first vegan Pakistani transgender to summit everest or not. People maybe cared 50 years ago but now no one gives a sh...t
Kanchha Sherpa, last surviving memeber of the 1953 British expedition, listens on with an awesome backdrop as his friend predicts the future of Everest climbing. His face is like one of horror 1:00:38
Thank you for this wonderful documentary!! I had turned back on Mount Rinjani's summit when I was barely 10metres away (in height) but horizontally I had to ascend maybe 100meters. I really could not move anymore. So technically i didn't summit.. but i feel like I did.. Mount Rinjani was just 3300meters back when I was there, and I remember starting out at 2.30am, and I didn't even get any sleep that night. Being where I was, I felt like I have already reached my personal summit. Really. Of cos I just got away with some ankle injuries (I'm not a mountaineer) and there's no altitude sickness or danger of death.. But I'm just saying, we need to learn to respect our bodies' personal best and limitations..
Outstandingly high quality documentary. Jamling Norgay’s eloquent and perceptive analyses were especially clarifying. Thank you very much for a brilliant production.
That guy whose wife died is really odd. He acts like it is a total shock to him that lots of people die climbing Everest. He acts like it was an accident at a Disney theme park and he is on a quest to find out which employee failed to do a key maintenance routine.
Scary man, running around naming streets after her and crying (fake?) tears. Something weird about him. He's trying way too hard to convince everyone he's upset. Poor woman!
As supposedly Mr Sharad was stronger, fittest, more experienced but most importantly because it was his wife, he should have been behind Mrs Anjali all the time during the ascent. This might have saved her life.
_"he should have been behind Mrs Anjali all the time during the ascent."_ That was my thought also. He made a pact with her before the beginning of the expedition that they would stay together and watch each other for signs of weakness and/or altitude sickness, then trekked on, leaving her behind. When she caught up at the Balcony, he should have assessed her, waited for her, and stayed with her. He let his Sherpa push him on to the summit,, leaving his wife to die on the mountain. The Sherpas can only do so much, they have their own motivations to summit. As brave and helpful as they are, you can't count on them to risk their lives to rescue your wife, you have to do that yourself.
There really is a solution for all the part-timers trying to climb Everest - which would be good for Nepal (with 8 of the 14 - 8000m peaks in the world) 1) Climber must climb a 6000m peak, in Nepal 2) Climber must climb a 7000m peak, in Nepal 3) Climber must climb an 8000m peak, in Nepal (other then Everest) 4) Climber can climb Everest
I gues the best one will be "climbers should climb in an alpine style", each climber carry their own bags, without oxygen botle and without fixed ropes, like a real climber
to be honest, that was my feeling too. The whole story reminds me of the Tina Watson story, though I can't say this man actually had ill will against his wife.
This was so interesting, the ripple effects from Covid, tourism, business practices, and personal beliefs all merge together in this educational and thoughtful video.
Money and ego... is what achieving Everest seems to be about these days. An acquaintance of mine who described the conditions of garbage and human feces at Everest base camp had me horrified. We usually hear about the glories of the slopes and summits but not about the mundane and not-so-glorious realities of mountaineering.
Most people attempting to summit Everest these days have absolutely no business being there....as one mountaineer put it Mount Everest has become aplace for birthdays with wine and cheese party’s 😯
They might as well build a lift up there already, unfit (in more ways than just physical) people are gonna keep coming there anyway so might as well make it safer.
This is a riveting watch and brilliantly produced. I wouldn't dream of taking on Sagarmatha, but to sit at her feet in wonder was one of the greatest experiences of my life. For me, the hike in from Jiri was enough.
The problem with the majority of these so called “mountaineers” is that they don’t belong on Mt Everest or any of these high altitude peaks. If it wasn’t for the Sherpas and guides, who practically drag them up to the summit or close to the top, they would never survive or be successful in any way. These expeditions have become too commercialised, and if an individual has the financial resources, he/she can sign up for a dream adventure on Mt Everest, even though they have below average climbing and endurance capabilities.
Those images of so many climbers body to body on one thin rope are unbelievable. It is such a shame it has become such a tourist attraction, many inexperienced climbers and as a result death. I can't even imagine (if I did climb) climbing body to body like that. That man had it right pride + money + ego can equal disaster. Great footage & documentary! Thank you.
My wife and I have cling 4000 fts which is difficult especially if you have zero experience. We started by climbing 2000ft. and hiked long distances to get a feel of the energy one would expend. I’m satisfied with watching documentaries on climbing Everest,K2 etc.!
I don't understand how people think climbing Everest is the huge milestone when you paid indigenous people to do all the work for you, but go off I guess.
Exactly what I was thinking and how dare that Indian kid asks a loan from his father when they both clearly can’t afford it at least he should’ve used the loan for a new business or project
They climbed to the top of a 29000 ft high mountain. That's hardly having all the work done for them. Meanwhile you sit on youtube and whine about people doing much harder things than you.🙄🙄🙄
Excellent documentary. Appreciate the multiple points of view. Tenzing mentioned toward the end of the documentary how different it is today than decades ago. Norgay, Hillary and the rest of the expedition first had to set ladders, lines, camps. Today teams of Sherpas do the preparations on the mountain. I really admire those who blaze the trail, find the routes, summit and descend.
That German guide was right on the money when he said that most deaths are related to running out of oxygen. And it's so predictable. It was exactly the same in 1996. They bring just enough oxygen for perfect conditions. So if there's a long line, as there was then, everyone runs out. And those that can't handle the low oxygen die. I think Edmund Hillary said they shouldn't allow oxygen on Everest. It would Certainly cut down on the number of unprepared climbers.
agreed, but try telling wealthy people they can't do something if they can pay to cut corners. Like the asshole Bahraini prince and his entourage who was allowed to go there when no one else could travel... and all the celebs who still had their holidays last year.
They shouldn't allow parachuting down from 747 also... Let's just admit..if you use oxegen your a bitch!! And you never truly climbed Everest!! Let's be honest
Actually, a lot of people succumb to HACE and apathy. High Altitude Cerebral Edema (HACE) is caused by low barometric pressure. It causes brain swelling & liquid seepage in the brain. As it progresses, person will experience delirium, hallucinations, confusion, loss of balance, loss of awareness, mental fatigue. HACE may occur regardless of access to oxygen. APATHY is caused by exhaustion & often strikes down climbers who have plenty of supplemental oxygen. They reach a level of exhaustion which prevents them from getting up & moving. Stuck in one spot, they eventually go through all of their supplemental oxygen & are often left exposed in the elements over night, leaving little chance for survival. Nonetheless, some people have survived the night. During the Everest storm of May 1996, Beck was lost in the storm & spent the whole night in the elements (wind gusts to 120 mph & frigid temps). He was struggling from snow blindness & extreme exhaustion. He could not move & fell asleep. Beck ended up waking up on his own & walking to the camp in the morning! He lost his right arm to the elbow & left hand due to frost bite, but survived.
@@tropickman if you dont mind the question. I've read about how long it takes to climb this mountain. But there are "only" 4 camps. So.... how is it done? how much time do they actually spend climbing? dont they need (have the need) to sleep when they are not near a camp?
1. Why in the hell did that guy leave his wife to go to the top? Yes she was moving slower but if that had been my husband, I would have never left his side. They were in the deathzone. 2. From every documentary and clips I have watched about this climb, the Sherpa tells the people they will run out of oxygen and need to turn around. Did the Sherpa tell her that? Did he try to convince her to go down? Did the Sherpa not pay attention? Just curious what happened.
Rizza has the most expressive eyes. You can see so much kindness in them, but also some sadness. Maybe about not finishing the summit? He should be so proud of himself. It’s an even braver feat to go all that way but then tuen back once you remember that your life is worth a lot more than this one goal.
It was a good decision. He was the slowest of the group, and he had chosen one of the cheep mounteneering organizers so I suppose the gear was not the best. He had a good sherpa, though, and he learnt an important lesson. In the end, if that mountain defines his life, he can always safe up for another attempt, maybe after having summited other high mountains.
@@berits.2346 He was never going to get to the top, he was painfully slow and I expect a danger to those around him but he makes excuses (R) Watch "Everest for Mountaineers" for a better perspective on this subject.
He literally said he never regretted turning around for even a second. I think the sadness comes from the reality check of humanity he experienced when climbing the Mount Everest. It brings out the worst in people and I don’t think it was a fun experience for him from all fronts
It is so strange to think "I am gonna mount Everest" without climbing other mountains before for years. Shouldnt it be sth to achieve by experienced climbers? I hear people say I trained 500h, I trained 28 days. My lord...
Not everyone has the physiology required for high altitude mountaineering even if in great shape. Some cannot handle the low oxygen. Others have issues with blood circulation to their extremities. So prior exposure to high altitude mountaineering is essential to evaluate one's physiology. Some will never make it, no matter how fit and mentally strong they are.
@@AlfredTheBrave Imagine summiting Everest on LSD!! Rumour has it that an NHL goalie once played on LSD. I wonder how big the puck was and how fast it was coming.
Not only is this an amazing doc but I've also just found a new channel to watch courtesy of Rizza Alee. Some awesome adventures to watch! So happy you turned around even though it had to have been heartbreaking to make that decision.
I’m not trying to sound rude nor inconsiderate at all , I’m so sorry that man lost his wife , but for me there is no way I would have been able to leave my wife , and I’m so sorry this man lost his poor wife !RIP poor mans wife !
his wife was begging him to come closer and he left her there to die alone💔 “my sherpa literally pulled me down” believable cause we all know the sherpas are always listened to and definitely make people do what they want
He did not have a choice. He would have died, too. That's what happens. These people have to make these tough decisions. She was out of oxygen, she could not move. He needed to save himself.
My dear friend you have reached your summit. each person has their own summit and much respect for you because you respected wisdom, skill and knowledge. it takes more courage to turn back than to keep going sometimes
Excellent documentary! Really well presented from all angles. I love Alan Arnette- such a well reasoned and intelligent viewpoint backed up by years of experience and wisdom. Hopefully, the Nepalese government does something to curb these problems and needless deaths. RIP to all those who lost their life in 2019 and every other year.
What would you think of sky divers if 1 in 7 skydivers who jumped died? Would this be an acceptable risk for a thrill? NOPE. Rizza Alee is the brightest guy of the bunch to turn back and live.
You're thinking of it as a die roll. It isn't. OK, so statistically about 1-in-10 people die, but you're not a statistic. You're an individual. You're going to make the right decisions, and you won't get caught out. This is such a basic premise underlying how humans think and how they act. It's largely why people commit crimes; we think 'not worth the risk', they think 'what risk?'. They know, instinctively, that they have some measure of a say in their destinies. Statistics tell you nothing about an individual.
@@LeatherCladVegan except for the fact that everybody who becomes a statistic thinks "lmao, couldn't be me". Fact of the matter is that the average person *is* subject to statistical odds. This is because statistics usually measure the average person, and most people (you included) are average.
@@userequaltoNull Your first point is the same point I was making. Your second point is misguided at best. Statistics don't necessarily 'usually measure the average person'. I don't think you've really thought about what you are saying, no offence. Someone could install a pressurized stairway to the top of Everest, completely eliminating any threat of danger from climbing the mountain, and the statistic (1-in-10 dies) wouldn't change. People misuse and misunderstand statistics all the time. This is just another example thereof. I feel dirty even having repeated the claim that '1-in-10 people die', tbh. It's only true as long as it's true. It doesn't account for time.
I'm actually really shocked that the death toll was so low, only 11 deaths, considering those pictures of the ridiculously clogged lines of climbers trying to reach the summit at the same time. In 2006, 11 climbers also lost their lives, which was the same season that had the controversy of David Sharpe dying in Greenboots cave with 40 climbers passing him by. With that in mind, I can't really see why 2019 is being called 'the deadliest'. Busiest? Yes. Deadliest? Not really.
Is debatable and semantics as to "deadliest season".... avalanches in 2014 and 2015 killed 14 and 22 respectively. Many of those were Sherpas and other support staff not currently making summit attempts, so do those "count"? May seem heartless to not count them, but if an airplane with forty climbers crashes on the way across the ocean to get to Nepal, do those count? If you die in a bus crash in Khatmandu, does that count?
Crazy that the one guy would ask his father to take on a load of debt just so he can climb the mountain. Take out the loan yourself if it matters that much to you...
Or...maybe just thinking if he's "BIG MAN" enough to need to reach the top so badly, maybe he should see to it that he's man enough to straighten out his OWN darn credit?
Even if your credit was good, I imagine you'd have a hard time finding a creditor willing to loan you the money to climb Everest because meat-popsicles aren't known for paying on time -- or at all.
We need more young people like Reeza, I admire his willpower, he conquered a lot by just giving up a considerable temptation , it is refreshing to see a young man be strong and not succumb to Everst's shallow allure. Thank you for setting the example. This can also be applied to wanting the vane glory of the world, fill in the blank and replace Everest for, a Ferrari, a social status, porn, money, name it...all for 1 minute of glory that only boosts your ego and neglects your real purpose in life, like being a contribution in your family, your community and overall your nation.
... So Nepal should just require training to be done on one of their own smaller mountains, for certification to obtain their permit to climb Everest - thereby doubling their tourism and local mountaineering revenue: creates jobs, weeds out the chaf, and adds additional time spent in area by tourists.... Problem solved?
Certification?! It would not matter. A lot of experienced climbers succumb, including foreign guides & team leaders. Problems are not caused by technical climbing abilities, but by the environment. Human body is not designed for those altitudes. Low oxygen levels is only the beginning of challenges, but its managed effectively by acclimatization & supplemental oxygen. Cerebral edema occurs because of low pressure & causes swelling of the brain & other issues, causing loss of awareness, loss of balance, confusion, delirium, weakness. Exhaustion apathy prevents victims from being able to move. They get so tired, they go down to rest & may never get back up again. Eventually victims goes through their oxygen supplies & may spend the night out in the elements. Lack of movement increases risk of frost bite, hypothermia and death. In short, there are no certificates or practices for this. And I have not even touched up on deaths caused by accidents such as avalanches, climbers falling or getting lost.
No, problem not solved. Even if 100% of the climbers are experienced and capable and certified, Everest still only has a finite capacity of climbers per season. Eventually, the number of certified climbers wanting to climb, will exceed the maximum number the mountain can safely accomodate per year. 8,000,000,000 people on the planet, and counting. That's the problem with everything.
That wouldn't have stopped someone like Lincoln Hall climbing. There's basically no way of climbing Everest and knowing you're not going to get badly ill and die. It's a complete gamble for anyone; you're just trusting, praying or assuming that you're not the one that gets cerebral edema.
Turning back while seeing the summit a stone throw away is the biggest decision a climber can make. Respect man! Your life was way more worthy than just a five-ten minute moment
Reeza. You are an amazing man. You listened. To your guide. To Everest as well. You knew she would take you. Now the heartfelt revelation... You share your experience with your family ❤
I've seen other documentaries of this year and the 1996 tragedy and the same thing happened there. People ignored the turnaround time. Too many people tried to summit at once but the comments are full of "brave heroes" and I'm like, no. No it's more like oxygen deprived bad judgement. All the way around. You may have had a few professionals there who saved some idiots but even some of them didn't do the safest things. I'm not trying to bash anyone but there has got to be a better way of managing the tourism, the trash, and keeping people who are just not qualified from becoming another lifeless snowsuit mound.
like the dude who waited for hours on the summit for his unprepared client?! Even I know that's batshit crazy. There's no way he didn't know that guy would never make it, yet he waited and then lost his life, too... mad. I've been reading about Everest climbs for years and it's completely turned off about the whole thing. Luckily, there are a lot of mountains our there, for all levels.
I love hiking and being in the mountains but I’ll never understand the desire to climb the summit, especially not Everest. The immense cost, the fact that most climbers rely on Sherpas risking their life, and the long line of people just trying to snap a photo is so off putting
Rizza, I believe you made the right decision to turn back. I agree with you in that people I believe are going up to the Summit for the wrong reasons. You are still so young that if you choose to go back again, you can. Good luck
Absolutely fascinating, I was only prepared to watch the fist twenty minutes or so, but I was hooked, this is such an amazing doc, up to the very last minute. Thank you!
This guy straight up left his wife on the way up and the way down and wonders how could this been avoided. Wow! I don't think he really reflected on his behavior and what that caused.
I dont think he can be blamed all that much. It sounds like splitting up groups like that is pretty common. He said that they talked about it beforehand and agreed that it would be fine
@@deeeno6867 your entitled to your opinion. But not very many people would leave a lady alone with men in a foreign country under harsh weather conditions, let alone your own wife. But then again riskingnmy life would not be my choice either for personal recognition.
Brilliant documentary. One thing that got left out though is the fact that Anjali was told to stay at camp 4 by the Sherpas because she wasn’t feeling too well, unfortunately she didn’t do that and decided to push for the summit nevertheless. I really wish it didn’t go down that way. She & her husband were very brave to attempt this.
This is just incredibly put together in every way. One of the best documentaries I've ever seen, let alone mountain climbing documentaries.
agreed. this is excellent presentation
Someone needs to tell the young Indian guy he made the best decision turning back. #1 for his own survival. #2 It was a brave protest of the situation.
The people who continued are idiots. I'd love to climb Everest but the way it's currently being mismanaged is despicable.
@Damari Kade QA
Beautiful cinematography, great soundtrack, intelligent and informative people being documented, for a narrative with a true purpose 💎
Right! It’s like you can’t escape the sheer magnitude of the task at hand. It’s impossible not to admire the whole process
I have more respect for those who turn around than for those who push on and shouldn't have. Well done young man, a difficult decision but the correct one.
Only my eyeballs climb the mountain from my computer chair in South Dakota. I even want to turn around and go back down watching these people struggle.
@@chris5942 nothing like you see it not on a computer screen obviously
Me too. I can only imagine how anguishing that choice would be but I have no doubt it was the right one every single time.
I agree , so sorry for that man's loss ! If only she turned back before it was too late 😪
Nah. Go for it! Or die tryin! Mortality is facts! But legends never die 💪
I applaud Reeza who turned around and took his sherpa’s advice.
It’s not defeat, it was wise. He spared his family grief.
... and fortunately, he was in company of a sherpa who advised him to do the right thing.
he exhibited logic which is really important at serious times of our lives.
The story he told sounds like the beginning of a story about an everest death. Only difference is that he was smart enough to turn around.
Agreed. If his o2 was broken I guess he had zero choice
I dont know why they dont just go in the summer.
Turning around so close to the summit is in some ways more of an accomplishment than actually summiting. It takes an incredible amount of strength and personal fortitude to overcome that fever and say in the moment, "Nope, my life is worth more than this."
800 meters doesn´t sound that close.
@@teppo9585 it’s close
Just making it that far is a victory, he should be proud
@@ImPoppy_1have you ever climbed…800 meters is like miles going uphill you dum dum….going down kills 90% not the ascent genius
On paper might seem small…but take a g.p.s. Than just walk it on flat ground….800m….it’s not super duper close at all
I don't know why, but I'm hooked on these extreme mountain climbing documentaries. So interesting. Probably because I know it's something I'll never do. Hell, I won't even go in the ocean if I can't see the bottom...
Well, not everyone can be in this club. That's from someone who summited Haystack Mountain in the Adirondacks in summer camp. We even sang "Puff the Magic Dragon" up there. We were crazy! 😆
I'm right there with u
😂 That's me ! I am such a chicken !
Same
Yeah we've come good
Anjali was advised by sherpas not to attempt the summit as they were concerned about her capacity to make it. She didn't. The video of her struggling in the snow is a bit hard to watch. I've read a translation of what the Sherpa is saying to her. "Get up!" "I told you this morning to not attempt the summit, you're not strong enough. But you didn't listen." "I'm sorry Mrs Anjali."
thanks for the translation.
I found this couple’s story the least relatable in this documentary. I don’t know why the husband referred to her as mountaineer. His actions contributed to her death. Why did they separate on the ascent? They are a glowing example of the commercial exploit of Everest.
Just because you are passionate about something doesn’t make you an expert, especially not mountaineering.
@@riquelmeone See their entire documentary (the husband has one on youtube). The couple had climbed the highest peaks in each continent. They had spent a lot of time training for Everest, please don't make stupid judgements without knowing the full story. I find it really annoying with all the westerners (even in the documentary) saying Indians have no skill and are inexperienced climbers. So many westerners have died on the mountain too. A lot of western inexperienced and arrogant climbers come here too. Show some respect for the locals. What a stupid ignorant comment from you!
I'm not into mountain climbing, but I do find stories about Mt Everest & those who want to climb it fascinating.
You just explained me...somehow
Yes, I was thinking the same.
I'd love to walk up to base camp but no further.
@@zapfanzapfan - I wouldn't mind seeing if I could make it up to camp four, but wouldn't bother trying for the summit. I know my limitations, unlike too many others. 😥
Yeah, actually I was thinking about.
When the Indian climber made the decision to go down he made a decision to be with his family and those who loved him. What a mountaineer! From someone with no family, hats off dude!
He should never have split up from his wife and went ahead of her to begin with.
@@TheWhoever118 I'm talking about the young, single guy. Perhaps I should've clarified it with "the man who didn't summit". The climber that left his wife wasn't the one making a decision to be with family and those who loved him.
Yeah great way to waste his daddy's money. Way to go.
You sound like a intelligent man! Good decision I’m happy you turned back! You choose to live!🙏🏽🌺
This kid forced his dad to take out a bank loan so he could climb a mountain? Selfish son, stupid father.
The idea of summiting with so many people like that ruins the experience to my mind. Aside from the obvious dangers, who wants to be in a queue on top of one of the most beautiful places in the world?
These people aren't doing it for the experience for the most part they were doing it for the status, they knew they could hide the line in their selfies and that they could leave that part out of the story.
I feel the same exact way at busy beaches. Ruins my whole beach experience.
@@aholder4471 ot any time in rush hours in big cities.
completely ruining the journey and experience.
Word
British people. They love a queue.
Rezza is so right, maybe he could have made the summit, but what does that matter if you die coming back down? It means nothing then, just grief for your family. Rezza's story is a success story because he survived.
He was right when he called it "a death race". Thankfully he realised it wasn't worth it and lived to tell about it.
16 Sheraps were killed on Mt Everest in the 2014 season. Seems to always be more focus on the climbers who pay up to $100,000 to climb there, than the Sherpas who earn less than $2000 for the whole season
I donno, last 10 years everyone's been on about the Sherpa's pretty much non-stop.
But agreed, they should be paid way more.
Facts.
Sherpa guides on Everest make $5-8k USD per season. About 7 times the average Nepalese wage. Doesn't seem to bad till you consider western guides make around $50k per season!
@@vidpromjm Sort of a myth of the Sherpa. Sherpa guides are amazing, sometimes, but a lot of them also have literally no qualifications at all. You might have a good guide or a really bad one. Everyone is told they're amazing and brilliant, but some of the deaths have definitely been due to Sherpa not being as good as Western guides, and Western Guides relying on them too heavily. Western guides are trained in communication, they have actual, proper mountaineering training. They're not just random people who climb mountains, they actually train and have a professional, western attitude. 5-8k is pretty good, considering that the western guides have spent probably atleast a million dollars in getting the qualifications and travelling around the world climbing mountains all over the place. Sherpa don't spend a million dollars before they become a guide. No one gets paid well for jobs without qualifications. That's true literally everywhere. If the Sherpa made it so you needed to spend $100k and get accredited qualifications to become a Sherpa guide, then they'd definitely get a hefty pay rise. Could probably earn 20k a season.
@@CharlesFreck Very insightful, thanks for sharing your perspective.
@19:44 when he said "I spent most of the time on Everest all alone in my tent" the hair on my arms immediately stood up! I can't imagine the level of fear he must've felt, the sense of abandonment from the people he thought he'd be climbing with & lastly, just questioning everything he thought he knew must've been so overwhelmingly frightening for him.
I think Rizza is remarkable in how he turned back on a life long ambition and almost seen 'the light' when it comes to a big issue not only on Everest but everywhere in the world. A lot of people have become very self absorbed.
I can't believe they went Mean Girls on him.
You can't climb with us!! >:(
Looks like his passion was photography!
The way you talk, you are also kind of self-absorbed with very little accomplishment. Annoying.
Word!
That said perfectly
I love mountaineering, but nobody will see me anywhere near Everest. There is nothing as awesome as having a beautiful (and I mean esthetically pretty) mountain just for yourself and climbing it with a group of really good friends helping each other. It does not need to be 8000m high. That is what adventure and mountaineering are for me ♡
I go into the wilderness to avoid other people/be with close friends. Its the only sanctuary from society, to have commercialized the wilderness is oxymoronic to me.
This is what it’s supposed to be about. Thank you for sharing.
Exactly. I’m in the Rockies and we leave at dawn so we don’t run into people
The guy who lost his wife, was lying to himself when he said that had they known there would be such a queue, they would not have attempted to summit.
While I understand why he has convinced himself of that, especially considering they had, as he said, agreed that at the first sign of trouble they would turn back and that he was the one responsible for making that call, the fact is that he spent hours in that queue, plenty of time to come to the obvious conclusion that it was taking too long. He got summit fever, he failed to make the decision that would have saved his wife.
I’m not judging him by the way. I can’t say I would have done any better.
He left his wife behind & he knows it. She was lagging behind & he literally left her for dead because he wanted to get a summit certificate. Loser.
It would have been the talk of the base camp considering that 3 day window. All would know there would be a que with hundreds of people and Sherpas, I think the time is fast coming when true mountaineers won't go near Everest because it has become a tourist trap.
@@maryjanedodoYeah, it's mind blowing. I know it's for me to say from here what I'd do...but I swear on my life that I wouldn't leave my wife's side for a second on something like this. And at the first sign of trouble, we'd BOTH be heading back. And if she needed my oxygen, I'd give it to her without even thinking about it.
Him leaving her behind blows my mind.
I was shocked he didn’t offer his own oxygen.
the truth falls where it stands
This young man matured and began to realize that he is valuable to all of us that climb-He turned around-absolute Respect Reeza!
There is a difference between pushing your limits, and pushing your luck.
People are stupid sometimes
You are so right :(
I will gift you... Show sarcastic claps....👏👏👏
Well said 👍
Nicely put pal
They hire Sherpas because they are experts. But when it's a life and death situation, they always ignore the Sherpa's expert advice.
Where was her sherpa? What kind of man leaves his wife in a life threatening situation and goes off to do anything else? By his actions, letting his wife fall behind him, he showed what his true values were. Getting a selfie at the top was more important to him than his wife's life.
not all sherpa are experts, some are very far from that. sherpa is a name for people from a certain region, not an expert climber
@@margorhys-jones6400 It's both. Sherpa (capitalized) is a surname, but sherpa is an occupation. Many sherpa are Sherpas.
@@tshepherd8145 I spoke to 'sherpas' or 'porters' about this in Nepal. They really disliked being called sherpas because they aren't part of the Sherpa ethnic group. They prefer to be called assistant guides. Not all Sherpas are sherpas and not all sherpas are Sherpas I think they are only synonymous because of a lack of understanding on a global scale ☃️
I did a trek in Nepal with a Sherpa (ethnically Sherpa and a good guide) with several 7000's under his belt. When we were at altitude (not anything like an 8,000) and he told me I was going too slowly, I dropped my pride and listened. But it took him telling me twice. It's hard to listen to someone you've hired tell you that you're not up to some challenge or that the conditions are wrong. You want to do what you went there to do, not be told why you can't do it.
Absolutely fantastic documentary! So many voices the western climbing community doesn’t get to hear, from climbers to sherpas to business owners. Lovely interviews, just letting everyone talk and not speaking over them. Appreciated the very broad look at the whole system, not just the exciting and titillating bits. Thanks so much for making this and doing all the translation work for english-speakers!
Glad you enjoyed it
@@DavidSnowClimbing How did you (or the creators if you're just uploading) make such an amazing, international piece in the time of Covid? Also, the access it must have took to show & interview so many different people! It's so rare to see a doc that shows you different objective opinions, not _forcing_ a point of view, but letting us understand the overall facts that informs our conclusion! Amazing! Thanks for bringing this to RUclips!
@@DavidSnowClimbing I've never climbed any real mountain, but have a fascination with those that do. Your work brings their stories to the language and grasp of the common man, thank you very much!
Sing it sister or.. Dude.
Mad respect to Rizza for being so dang close and still having enough respect to turn around. I hope he makes it up there one day.
I loved that elderly mother who was listening to her gung-ho son talking about his planned climb. You could read what she really wanted to say right on her face. In the end she just went to her home shrine and started praying. I guess she knew exactly how much she'd be listened to by her son.
She didn’t say anything because that’s his dream.
There is an ultimate lesson in intimacy that many will not face until already in the grips of their last breath of life! Whether climbing Everest or trying to reach one of the many other pinnacles in life that we set for ourselves: "Pride
goes before destruction, and an haughty spirit
before a fall. Better it is to be of an humble spirit
with the lowly, than to divide the spoil with the proud. He that handles a matter wisely shall find good: and whoso trusts in the LORD, happy
is he." (Pro 16:18-20) I have never been able to separate myself from a soul facing his or her self
determination in eternal damnation of soul! To me, it's like walking off or sitting, with hands clasped, arms folded, and watching someone commit suicide! Just writing off another poor soul who has made a bad choice for themselves is not an option! The certainty of a deathbed is not an ideal opportunity for assiting anyone in a life choice but a Believer in Messiah Yeshua has the responsibility and ordination from Father God, as an help meet! As a born again Christian, I am my brothers keeper! I could never go back and get this shot (opportunity) again, neither could I ever sleep again in peace with the haunting memory of someone in my realm of influence having died, in the commission of the ultimate suicide in unbelief: that eternal death of soul; forsaking our Creator's salvation, already purchased, in His perfect blood sacrifice, of love! Throughout life, we all are climbing, in the deathzone, of sin, not without oxygen but without our Savior and His Holy Spirit! "O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. But thanks be to the grace of God, which gives us the victory through faith in our Lord Jesus Christ." (Isa 25:8, 1Co 15: 55-57) Love in Messiah, Richard
That mom is the best, she’s all ‘it looks cold’ , ‘how will u manage food’?? 😂😂😂😂
Wow, first thing the director of that “budget” climb team says is essentially “it’s ok those people died because it got me business”, then he blames his clients for having health issues and for not speaking up when they’re feeling ill. Bro, they’re basically tripping balls at that point as a their bodies are dying, YOU need to be able to assess your client’s abilities, mindset, and physical condition for them since they’ve also never even been on a mountain before! I’m so disgusted by this guy’s flagrant disregard for life, and disrespect for the mountain.
There is an ultimate lesson in intimacy that many will not face until already in the grips of their last breath of life! Whether climbing Everest or trying to reach one of the many other pinnacles in life that we set for ourselves: "Pride
goes before destruction, and an haughty spirit
before a fall. Better it is to be of an humble spirit
with the lowly, than to divide the spoil with the proud. He that handles a matter wisely shall find good: and whoso trusts in the LORD, happy
is he." (Pro 16:18-20) I have never been able to separate myself from a soul facing his or her self
determination in eternal damnation of soul! To me, it's like walking off or sitting, with hands clasped, arms folded, and watching someone commit suicide! Just writing off another poor soul who has made a bad choice for themselves is not an option! The certainty of a deathbed is not an ideal opportunity for assiting anyone in a life choice but a Believer in Messiah Yeshua has the responsibility and ordination from Father God, as an help meet! As a born again Christian, I am my brothers keeper! I could never go back and get this shot (opportunity) again, neither could I ever sleep again in peace with the haunting memory of someone in my realm of influence having died, in the commission of the ultimate suicide in unbelief: that eternal death of soul; forsaking our Creator's salvation, already purchased, in His perfect blood sacrifice, of love! Throughout life, we all are climbing, in the deathzone, of sin, not without oxygen but without our Savior and His Holy Spirit! "O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. But thanks be to the grace of God, which gives us the victory through faith in our Lord Jesus Christ." (Isa 25:8, 1Co 15: 55-57) Love in Messiah, Richard
There is a huge difference in preparation for a climb of this magnitude. A humble wise climber will always say, " I have a chance to acclimate", "a chance to be on the summit team," " a chance to summit". Instead so many believe that if they pay enough, diet and work out enough, get with the outfit that summits the most, I'm guaranteed a summit. Everyone does summit. That is the point in which wisdom, common sense, and your body all tell you, "this is your summit, you can do no more, go back". You can't bring back any wisdom from the mountain if you don't come back.
@Big Cat Little Lion Yes. The halfway point is the summit. Most climbers that die on Everest, die on the way down. Some from underestimating how much O2 they use to summit, leaving considerably less for the way down. Even with stashes. Sad.
I bombed a climb in the Rockies before by becoming slightly hypoxic before attempting to alter plans during a climb. My brother and I were dragging and when it came time for us to alternate plans, we asked one another to write down the sentence, "how am i feeling?" and gave it to one another to read. We both wrote hen scratching jibberish lol . I swore I wrote it perfectly, he did too. Since we were asking the question, we thought it best to pack it in and head down to our camp at 12,000 feet. We were up there for 3 days acclimatizing but apparently were in no mind to make the attempt before we ever started out..
💯🙌🏿
Absolutely true. I know few professional climbers, even they making number of attempts to get to the top, and if it’s not possible, they go home and try next season. How they say: it’s not about pushing yourself and suffering, it’s about preparing yourself and acclimating that so it is mostly enjoyable.
Wisdom does not seem to be the strong suit of most of the people who have gone up there, honestly.
They think they deserve it, that’s the problem
Bro, you turned around and now you’re living to tell about it. Your family and friends didn’t have to grieve your loss. It will always be there to try again.
Over and over I’ve seen in these videos and have read stories that it’s the people who DON’T listen to the sherpa’s who are still up on that mountain.
Frozen solid for eternity.
There are so many more opportunities to live a great live. You don't need to take a risk in such a difficult situation. Maybe he will stand on top of Everest some day, maybe not. But he doesn't let Everest define his life, he defines his live.
I am yet to hear from anyone who turned around at Everest that s/he regrets it. Just countless stories of people who had to rely on rescue efforts or simply died trying. It is not weakness that makes you turn around, it is insight into the situation. And it is not strength that lets you go on, it is stubbornness. There are too many stories told by people who were just increadibly lucky, when they pushed on for bad reasons. So take the time to listen to the stories of those who were unlucky and can not tell the story themselves anymore.
winning is surviving
i wonder what they do if someone dies there.. do they bury the body in the snow?
They literally become the mountain. Its so sad
@@nilsp9426 So true. Always be aware of nature. You can see it, hear it, and smell it. Once you understand that, nature will show you when it is angry and dangerous. Trust your ancient instincts, and you will hopefully have a long and happy life.
My disability taught me from a young age that "If I can do it, anybody can" is a very dangerous thing to say, and you should question the insight of anyone who tells you that.
There is an ultimate lesson in intimacy that many will not face until already in the grips of their last breath of life! Whether climbing Everest or trying to reach one of the many other pinnacles in life that we set for ourselves: "Pride
goes before destruction, and an haughty spirit
before a fall. Better it is to be of an humble spirit
with the lowly, than to divide the spoil with the proud. He that handles a matter wisely shall find good: and whoso trusts in the LORD, happy
is he." (Pro 16:18-20) I have never been able to separate myself from a soul facing his or her self
determination in eternal damnation of soul! To me, it's like walking off or sitting, with hands clasped, arms folded, and watching someone commit suicide! Just writing off another poor soul who has made a bad choice for themselves is not an option! The certainty of a deathbed is not an ideal opportunity for assiting anyone in a life choice but a Believer in Messiah Yeshua has the responsibility and ordination from Father God, as an help meet! As a born again Christian, I am my brothers keeper! I could never go back and get this shot (opportunity) again, neither could I ever sleep again in peace with the haunting memory of someone in my realm of influence having died, in the commission of the ultimate suicide in unbelief: that eternal death of soul; forsaking our Creator's salvation, already purchased, in His perfect blood sacrifice, of love! Throughout life, we all are climbing, in the deathzone, of sin, without our Savior! "O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. But thanks be to the grace of God, which gives us the victory through faith in our Lord Jesus Christ." (Isa 25:8, 1Co 15: 55-57) Love in Messiah, Richard
I’m SO impressed by the young Indian climber… he exudes such a positive energy and comes across as wise well beyond his 19 years. I have sons his age who I’m very proud of, and I bet his mum is PROUD of him, I would be if I was his mum! Well done him
Honestly i've got mixed feelings about the story of the married couple, i could not leave the side of anyone i love in dangerous place such as this, expecially in the conditions they were in. "If we hit the slightest complication we will get back, i'll make the decision if it comes to this" immediatly runs in a human traffic jam on the side of fucking Everest and proceed to leave his wife behind to get his summit. I do not doubt his pain but man that's hard to sympathise with this story, especially the way it was told.
But then he wants to cry about other people not helping her when he's the one that abandon her in the first place. He should feel guilty for that
Thats what I thought.
I would be VERY ashamed if I chose to leave my wife behind, a person whom I make an oath for being together for the rest of my life, for a frickin summit.
I was speechless when I learnt that she was his wife.
@@ABSF49 Great Film " Everest for Mountaineers" from training to summit, beautiful doc. It will help anyone understand the foolhardiness of tourist climbers.
I understood that he had already summited and was on his way back down when he encountered his wife already in severe distress. It’s horrible and heartbreaking - she was already dying and there was no oxygen. He would’ve 100% died too if he’d stayed and probably his sherpa, too. The only real choice was one death or 3 at that point. How gut wrenching.
There were several people during 2019 who summitted but died afterwards in their sleep on the way down from the stress they put on their body. Reeza absolutely did the right thing turning back.
Wow, thats crazy scary. I wonder if the oxygen tanks could be improved or if they had an alert on their mask that indicated they need to turn back if they want oxygen for the decline.
@@laurenbendik2006 Every decent oxygen tank has alarms, timers, and monitors. You know exactly how much you have left. What you don't know is how much your body will use when you are struggling for hours.
@@laurenbendik2006 It probably had very little to do with oxygen at that point, and more to do with the combined stress and exertion of the whole thing. Like people who die after running a race.
@@Erin-rg3dwoxygen depleted cells.
Without oxygen, cells die.
The physical exertion simply hastens it.
Climbing Everest as your first mountain is like deciding to drive in a Formula One race before you've ever driven a car.
Only possible if you’re Max Verstappen! (entered his first F1 race at 17 before having a drivers license). He had been driving open-wheel vehicles since he was a small child tho
Well said😊
Everest is a good metaphor for the way we treat the entire planet, and each other.
I'm waiting for the elevator to be installed and the Summit restaurant better rotate.
Darn straight, mate! And accepts Amex.
Give them another 10 years, and I'm certain that will happen. Going to the summit of Everest will soon be as easy as walking up an escalator at the local mall.
y’all are so delusional, basic machinery has a hard time operating under these conditions. let alone the amount of maintaining of said structures would be near impossible. keep dreaming
@@timothyjohnson1238 you never know man you never know in the upcoming years maybe we will have that kind of technology like he said
@@timothyjohnson1238 I’d imagine the same applies to space exploration re basic machinery and maintenance and yet, we manage that to the point that tourists now are able to visit the international space station - if they’ve a spare 40 million or so.
My new obsession is watching Everest documentaries ❤️
Thank you for uploading ❤️
Same buddy, same!!
We are finding that climbing the icy dangerous Mt Everest physically, it's safer to climb our hours spent on RUclips. Total fun!
When youre finishhed, then watch k2, then annapurna. There are everest documentaries that i've watched 40 times. Every time life is hard, I find peace in mountainering docs. As Mark Woodward said. You cut away all the extra stuff in life, Its just you and the mountain. Or as Beck Weathers says. Ive lived my life in profound depression, but i discovered that when i climb, i dont think, the lack of thinking is what draws me. So yeah, some people tend to drugs, some alcohol, some sex, well.. I go to the mountains.
Same.
The whole mystique surrounding this mountain and how it does not care if you live or die is riveting.
Me too the algorithm started from seeing something on the news regarding a girl tourist falling off a cliff by accident in my town, I later started searching cliff climbing videos ,mountain climbing, rock climbing and many more extreme sports my favorites were probably the athletes; dean potter , candide thovex , and Mount Everest 1996 expedition
I like the little taste of the sherpa's reality there in the end, he seemed so frustrated like "take some responsibility" and honestly I felt that after this whole thing
My impression of Everest and Himalayan mountaineering in general is that there is a considerable amount of randomness to climbing fatalities. An avalanche will probably kill your regardless of your mountaineering skill. Altitude sickness is known to strike even experienced climbers. If one puts ever greater numbers of people in the “death zone” in any given year, the number of deaths will increase.
"There is a considerable amount of randomness to climbing fatalities" -- this hits home for me, for the same is very true in war. Death seems so arbitrary in that world, and survival can have absolutely nothing to do with skill or experience and absolutely everything to do with pure chance or luck. And for whatever reason(s) the gods let you live another day.
If i am climbing at 8000 meters plus , the time spent at that altitude is deadly, if someone blocks me causeing me to spend more time in the dead zone they are endangering my life, i can accept that increased risk, retreat, push them out of my way. Will i be committing a crime if i push them aside? If someone blocks me when attempting to escape a burning building will i be committing a crime if i push them aside? Can i or my family sue them for any injury to me? Can i sue the climbing business for injury ?
@@ravarga4631 This is not a burning building though. While both deadly, only one is entirely voluntary for all of the participants. I agree though that there are lots of interesting moral dilemmas at this altitude. It takes a special type, I would say a bit of narcissism if you have loved ones, to pursue this in the 1st place.
There is an accepted protocol, deta h from the rope, step ahead, reattach to the rope or detach, turn 180, reattach, retreat. Help no one because that would kill both as proven over time. I would never place myself there esp once i had kids. I am ot better than them, they are neither better or worse than me. Not my kind of personality. Good luck to them.
When you here about Lincoln Hall, there's basically no way you can climb Everest and have a clue about whether you're going to die or not.
The guy had done a ton of climbing for decades and then just gets cerebral edema.
I've been in the Swiss mountains taking a specialized train and ended up on a 3100 meters outlook. It was a regular tourist spot with a restaurant and all.
There was a small way up another outlook (50 steps up the hill) and I was already heaving by talking ONLY 10 steps.
I'm not overweight and I do sports… and this really showed me that climbing a mountain for real is SOMETHING else. I couldn't imagine how it must be to climb, take a few steps, and breathing like it was some sort of marathon.
In "Into Thin Air" the author describes taking a single step and having to take 3-4 breaths before the next single step! And that's WITH oxygen.
Interesting, I have never experienced any difference in performance even on 4000 peaks. Maybe because you did not walk up there but you took the train it was too fast for your body...
i know what you are talking about and i’ve only! tried walking up to 2000 metres
and at some point, when it was only half an hour walk from the top, each step made me more breathless, i’ve waited, got more dizzy, waking up 50 m took about an hour lol.
and then close to fainting i had to give up n walk down.
and i felt better with each step.. maybe because i’ve really low blood pressure naturally, maybe cause i’ve asthma, but unfortunately it’s not for me🤷🏻♀️
but mountains are quite beautiful
That’s altitude sickness. You’ve not acclimated. I went to Cuzco and was relatively fit at the time. I’d most certainly lugged my backpack everywhere before then but the very short flight of stairs in the hotel had me gasping. Later, it was no longer an issue. Altitude was the only thing I hadn’t been able to prep for since there is nothing high enough where I live.
Truth! When I was super fit, I performed in Colorado and wondered why I was sooo out of breath, and oh, yeah, mile high :)
Rizza had a wise Sherpa guide - he was told the truth about the risks in summiting and he listened!
How the hell did the first pioneers of Everest do all that climbing with less to nothing for protection from the elements....I have mad respect for the sherpas who grunted climbed. RIP 2 THOSE TRUE PIONEERS.
To be fair, clothes are not a new technology
Look at Ötzi, stone age man running around on a glacier, and only died because of human "intervention".
They climbed many other mountains first...they trekked in....as Norgay Jr. Says, people are weak now....
They actually had to use climbing axes and use each other's bodies as a ladder while climbing. They weren't tourists who get pushed and pulled to the top by help of sherpas like most of today's climbers on everest.
Weather was probably better back then, all this climate change is affecting things dramatically. Just a guess.
They virtually had to walk 100s of miles to get there....THEY WERE IN CONDITION
This is beyond crazy, queuing in the death zone. I was in shock when I saw those pictures circulating two years ago. I didn't know whether to laugh or cry.
But it had been happening in some way or another, more or less, for DECADES.
@@silasmarner7586 I agree, they queued in 96, too. It's a bit like Venice where the beauty of the city gets lost in the crowds (only there you won't die of lack of oxygen). An overcrowded tourist destination. But having it posted on Instagram live was so...weird. It's one thing hearing about that occasionally and another to have those pictures streamed directl.
@@silasmarner7586 I wonder what Mallory and Irvine would have to say about this, seriously.
Ikr, that photo is shocking!
Just so many cases of more money than brains.
People die in the mountains all over the world, not just at high altitude, through lack of experience and common sense. I´ve turned ppl around in winter conditions on the mountains in England who were lost and ill equipped to deal with the weather. And had a friend call me from a trekking peak in the Himalayas when I was on the other side of the globe because he was having a panic attack. I simply told him one of the oldest adages that applies to mountains everywhere; You don´t have to do this. Noone really cares if you do or not. The mountain will still be there, it´s up to you to make sure you are too.
Young guy's sherpa guide was a good, honest man. He told his client a hard truth that saved his life.
For me I'd be happy to get to Basecamp. I know that there no way I'd make it to the summit, so I'll help bring the rubbish of the mountain.
I would go there just to see the Himalayas. No need to risk your life to see something so beautiful.
@@angelasepi657 ditto
I've been thinking the same thing, I would just like to be a part of the scene.
@@angelasepi657 You say that but I wonder how you'd feel with a permit in hand, a team standing by, and the view of one of the most beautiful summits ahead of you.
So so so incredibly sweet🌺🌺🌺
They should have a waiting list to climb mt everest...to many people on the same mountain is a death sentence..
About 60k go too 😨😨
Nepal don't care about the lives lost. They want the money. They justify it by saying well it's their choice. Pay first thou before you go. Like the thousands of scam call centers in India. They don't clamp down on them. They make big bucks for the economy screwing the rich americans that exploit the factory workers and legitimate call centers.
35-60k per climber in a third world country. I do not think they care if you die as long as your 60gs has been paid.
*too
@@lok777 $11k/permit in Nepal. The rest of that $ is based on a guide service if you choose one.
I just saw a video that said a big tragedy happened in 1996. Standing in line for 2 hours at the Hillary Step is just not good at all, even for experienced climbers. Everest was one woman's first mountain hike. Please. This should not even be allowed.
I have so much respect for Reeza. Very brave and wise to turn around. To me that's a vastly larger achievement. He's a great example to others and may he always hold his head high
"We could either buy a new Mercedes or climb Everest". Everything that is wrong with modern mountaineering in ONE sentence.
he should be brought up on manslaughter charges.
@@odizaii1700 right, and unlike with the Mercedes, when climbing Mt. Everest, you are the engine. You break down up there, no one tows you back.
Man, I think some of the commenters have really misunderstood what you meant.
Come on guys, stop flapping your gums.
He made it to the top so was clearly very strong and fit. Not a weekend warrior. I expect she would have made it but ran out of oxygen. There's a question around this, was it a faulty gauge? A leak etc. Yes there were queues but it may have been exacerbated very equipment failure. She made it above 8000m so very strong also.
He's not responsible for her being there. That was a joint decision.
I'm sure he regrets allowing them to separate, but you can't hold someone responsible for actions under those conditions. Exhausted and starved of oxygen you won't make the same decision you would make at sea level.
I know right and you can see his wife is struggling even just during trekking, she's struggling to smile, speak, catch her breath. He seems somewhat fit, but what fools. Good that he had the courage to speak about his experience so that more lives will be saved. "We did 28 days of training. We're trekkers." that's like saying 'We've been in a plane before, so we can be astronauts'. What other 8000ers have they done? A new Merc or Everest, what a travesty. Mallory, Irvine, Tenzing and Hillary would be dumbfounded. EDIT: Omg he wants to get her body back...
With that long line of people standing, waiting....11 dead seems like a small number of what could have been.
Imagine having to take a piss while waiting in a five hour long que.
Easily. The greatest number of people that died on Everest at one time was 22, thanks to an avalanche.
outdoorinquirer.com/mount-everest-deaths/
@@annep.1905 I have an odd curiosity of, how do they even go to the bathroom up at the highest camp and summit. I guess their body uses it all up and you have nothing to potty out, but like everyone has to pee. And summit push lasts an entire day.
@@GrumpyKay I have no way of knowing. Somebody else said somewhere that they use bags like what the infirm people use.
I was responding to the comment about how the number of dead could have been much higher. It already has been double 11 in a year... at least.
I really admire Rina for turning back. He saved his precious life and possibly others. He is right about the selfishness.
Not enough to get his name right.
Who’s Rina?
@@silvermainecoons3269 Personally, I really admire VerminMalleyDesignings for her admiration of Reba for turning black.
@@LeatherCladVegan 😂🤣😅
But Renda will still have a chance
The open disdain the Sherpa's have for the idiot climbers is enough to convince me its kind of a joke to climb now.
So much disdain they're happy to keep taking their money to feed their families.
@@darrenlamb5640 Just like most people going to work every day then?
@@limegreenmamba5218 well the ppl who $3000 dollars for each summit yeah
@Vishakha N is that what i said. Dont twist my words.
So they bash the folks who are paying their bills. Sounds like a good way to stay employed.
Yeah, after reading "Into Thin Air" and watching this, I'm fine with experiencing Everest through pictures and video.
This is an extremely top-notch documentary in every way, shape and form. It really emphasizes how badly commercialized Mount Everest has become.
Stunning photo! Next season I plan to be the first man over 70 to reach the summit on a Pogo Stick wearing a clown suit. I am bring some tough Sherpa men to push these tourists out of my way! Better stay home next year because I am coming!
Should only take you about 3 good hops to the top!
What’re the specs on that pogo?
Sounds pretty dangerous you know hillary died climbing in high heals.
...and sherpas are not that tough
Shouldn’t be too hard. Make sure you don’t use oxygen, that stuff is for babies
@@CourtneyRussRuss you people clearly don't understand sarcasm. His point was that no one cares nowadays if you are the first vegan Pakistani transgender to summit everest or not. People maybe cared 50 years ago but now no one gives a sh...t
Kanchha Sherpa, last surviving memeber of the 1953 British expedition, listens on with an awesome backdrop as his friend predicts the future of Everest climbing. His face is like one of horror 1:00:38
I noticed too
Rizza is an amazing and brave human being. I love his success story. My heart goes out to the loved ones of those lost.
His manly tweed jacket with leather elbow pads and is pure britishness kept him warm
Thank you for this wonderful documentary!!
I had turned back on Mount Rinjani's summit when I was barely 10metres away (in height) but horizontally I had to ascend maybe 100meters. I really could not move anymore. So technically i didn't summit.. but i feel like I did..
Mount Rinjani was just 3300meters back when I was there, and I remember starting out at 2.30am, and I didn't even get any sleep that night. Being where I was, I felt like I have already reached my personal summit. Really. Of cos I just got away with some ankle injuries (I'm not a mountaineer) and there's no altitude sickness or danger of death.. But I'm just saying, we need to learn to respect our bodies' personal best and limitations..
You did what was best for your health and your body - you absolutely made the right choice!
Outstandingly high quality documentary. Jamling Norgay’s eloquent and perceptive analyses were especially clarifying.
Thank you very much for a brilliant production.
That guy whose wife died is really odd. He acts like it is a total shock to him that lots of people die climbing Everest. He acts like it was an accident at a Disney theme park and he is on a quest to find out which employee failed to do a key maintenance routine.
Too entitled to give nature it's due respect
He was the one to suggest climbing Everest to his wife. Should've gotten the Mercedes.
Could of given his oxygen to his wife brave man
Scary man, running around naming streets after her and crying (fake?) tears. Something weird about him. He's trying way too hard to convince everyone he's upset. Poor woman!
@@angelasepi657 Yes. And just below the summit is a bit late to start thinking about the kids never seeing their mother again.
As supposedly Mr Sharad was stronger, fittest, more experienced but most importantly because it was his wife, he should have been behind Mrs Anjali all the time during the ascent. This might have saved her life.
He was taking a picture while his wife was dying. And he says they were talking about not seperating and quiting if needed.
He put the summit before his wife
He seemed more upset with the Sherpa for not taking his picture on the summit.
That guy wanted a divorce. How do you murder your wife without suspicion? Climb the worlds tallest mountian
_"he should have been behind Mrs Anjali all the time during the ascent."_
That was my thought also. He made a pact with her before the beginning of the expedition that they would stay together and watch each other for signs of weakness and/or altitude sickness, then trekked on, leaving her behind. When she caught up at the Balcony, he should have assessed her, waited for her, and stayed with her. He let his Sherpa push him on to the summit,, leaving his wife to die on the mountain. The Sherpas can only do so much, they have their own motivations to summit. As brave and helpful as they are, you can't count on them to risk their lives to rescue your wife, you have to do that yourself.
Soo, everyone trying the Nepal side summit route that day stated that they noticed it's super crowded and jammed. Yet, they all continued.
@Em Kennede Seriously?
@@mariakelly1059 it’s even more expensive on the Tibetan side
Peeps had paid lots of $$, ain’t turning back
There really is a solution for all the part-timers trying to climb Everest - which would be good for Nepal (with 8 of the 14 - 8000m peaks in the world)
1) Climber must climb a 6000m peak, in Nepal
2) Climber must climb a 7000m peak, in Nepal
3) Climber must climb an 8000m peak, in Nepal (other then Everest)
4) Climber can climb Everest
I gues the best one will be "climbers should climb in an alpine style", each climber carry their own bags, without oxygen botle and without fixed ropes, like a real climber
Why do they have to be in Nepal tho
There are those options already to climb up to certain camps
@Jim Allen avalanches are still a risk at that level
My thoughts exactly.
The widower's mental gymnastics to absolve himself of guilt are simultaneously fascinating and horrifying.
to be honest, that was my feeling too. The whole story reminds me of the Tina Watson story, though I can't say this man actually had ill will against his wife.
As a parent he realized someone must carry on to raise their children
@@meowfaceification ....and then I started to look around for someone to blame for this accident....
dude literally killed his wife
This was so interesting, the ripple effects from Covid, tourism, business practices, and personal beliefs all merge together in this educational and thoughtful video.
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Money and ego... is what achieving Everest seems to be about these days. An acquaintance of mine who described the conditions of garbage and human feces at Everest base camp had me horrified. We usually hear about the glories of the slopes and summits but not about the mundane and not-so-glorious realities of mountaineering.
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Most people attempting to summit Everest these days have absolutely no business being there....as one mountaineer put it Mount Everest has become aplace for birthdays with wine and cheese party’s 😯
My same thoughts. A lot of privileged climbers have no respect for the mountain. That’s a start
They might as well build a lift up there already, unfit (in more ways than just physical) people are gonna keep coming there anyway so might as well make it safer.
This is a riveting watch and brilliantly produced. I wouldn't dream of taking on Sagarmatha, but to sit at her feet in wonder was one of the greatest experiences of my life. For me, the hike in from Jiri was enough.
I can't even walk a straight line in grass, so I definitely won't be climbing any mountain!
Thanks for calling it sagarmatha
The problem with the majority of these so called “mountaineers” is that they don’t belong on Mt Everest or any of these high altitude peaks. If it wasn’t for the Sherpas and guides, who practically drag them up to the summit or close to the top, they would never survive or be successful in any way. These expeditions have become too commercialised, and if an individual has the financial resources, he/she can sign up for a dream adventure on Mt Everest, even though they have below average climbing and endurance capabilities.
jamling tenzing sherpa speaks with such wisdom and clarity. he ought to be in charge of all high altitude climbing operations in nepal.
Those images of so many climbers body to body on one thin rope are unbelievable. It is such a shame it has become such a tourist attraction, many inexperienced climbers and as a result death. I can't even imagine (if I did climb) climbing body to body like that. That man had it right pride + money + ego can equal disaster. Great footage & documentary! Thank you.
There’s a definite “profile “ if you will of the person that wants to climb Everest and the female Sherpa described most of them perfectly.
Not only the biggest decision of your life… but also, probably the best. Respect Rizza
My wife and I have cling 4000 fts which is difficult especially if you have zero experience. We started by climbing 2000ft. and hiked long distances to get a feel of the energy one would expend. I’m satisfied with watching documentaries on climbing Everest,K2 etc.!
I don't understand how people think climbing Everest is the huge milestone when you paid indigenous people to do all the work for you, but go off I guess.
Exactly what I was thinking and how dare that Indian kid asks a loan from his father when they both clearly can’t afford it at least he should’ve used the loan for a new business or project
They climbed to the top of a 29000 ft high mountain. That's hardly having all the work done for them. Meanwhile you sit on youtube and whine about people doing much harder things than you.🙄🙄🙄
@@TransKidRevolution They start at base camp (Approx 17000 ft) to put it a bit more into perspective.
Excellent documentary. Appreciate the multiple points of view. Tenzing mentioned toward the end of the documentary how different it is today than decades ago. Norgay, Hillary and the rest of the expedition first had to set ladders, lines, camps. Today teams of Sherpas do the preparations on the mountain. I really admire those who blaze the trail, find the routes, summit and descend.
That German guide was right on the money when he said that most deaths are related to running out of oxygen. And it's so predictable. It was exactly the same in 1996. They bring just enough oxygen for perfect conditions. So if there's a long line, as there was then, everyone runs out. And those that can't handle the low oxygen die. I think Edmund Hillary said they shouldn't allow oxygen on Everest. It would Certainly cut down on the number of unprepared climbers.
agreed, but try telling wealthy people they can't do something if they can pay to cut corners. Like the asshole Bahraini prince and his entourage who was allowed to go there when no one else could travel... and all the celebs who still had their holidays last year.
They shouldn't allow parachuting down from 747 also... Let's just admit..if you use oxegen your a bitch!! And you never truly climbed Everest!! Let's be honest
Actually, a lot of people succumb to HACE and apathy.
High Altitude Cerebral Edema (HACE) is caused by low barometric pressure. It causes brain swelling & liquid seepage in the brain.
As it progresses, person will experience delirium, hallucinations, confusion, loss of balance, loss of awareness, mental fatigue. HACE may occur regardless of access to oxygen.
APATHY is caused by exhaustion & often strikes down climbers who have plenty of supplemental oxygen. They reach a level of exhaustion which prevents them from getting up & moving.
Stuck in one spot, they eventually go through all of their supplemental oxygen & are often left exposed in the elements over night, leaving little chance for survival.
Nonetheless, some people have survived the night.
During the Everest storm of May 1996, Beck was lost in the storm & spent the whole night in the elements (wind gusts to 120 mph & frigid temps).
He was struggling from snow blindness & extreme exhaustion.
He could not move & fell asleep.
Beck ended up waking up on his own & walking to the camp in the morning!
He lost his right arm to the elbow & left hand due to frost bite, but survived.
Hillary likely wouldn't say that.
He used oxygen in 1953.
@@tropickman if you dont mind the question. I've read about how long it takes to climb this mountain. But there are "only" 4 camps. So.... how is it done? how much time do they actually spend climbing? dont they need (have the need) to sleep when they are not near a camp?
1. Why in the hell did that guy leave his wife to go to the top? Yes she was moving slower but if that had been my husband, I would have never left his side. They were in the deathzone.
2. From every documentary and clips I have watched about this climb, the Sherpa tells the people they will run out of oxygen and need to turn around. Did the Sherpa tell her that? Did he try to convince her to go down? Did the Sherpa not pay attention? Just curious what happened.
Rizza has the most expressive eyes. You can see so much kindness in them, but also some sadness. Maybe about not finishing the summit? He should be so proud of himself. It’s an even braver feat to go all that way but then tuen back once you remember that your life is worth a lot more than this one goal.
It was a good decision. He was the slowest of the group, and he had chosen one of the cheep mounteneering organizers so I suppose the gear was not the best. He had a good sherpa, though, and he learnt an important lesson.
In the end, if that mountain defines his life, he can always safe up for another attempt, maybe after having summited other high mountains.
@@berits.2346 He was never going to get to the top, he was painfully slow and I expect a danger to those around him but he makes excuses (R) Watch "Everest for Mountaineers" for a better perspective on this subject.
He who turns round and walks away,
Lives to climb another day.
He literally said he never regretted turning around for even a second. I think the sadness comes from the reality check of humanity he experienced when climbing the Mount Everest. It brings out the worst in people and I don’t think it was a fun experience for him from all fronts
It is so strange to think "I am gonna mount Everest" without climbing other mountains before for years. Shouldnt it be sth to achieve by experienced climbers? I hear people say I trained 500h, I trained 28 days. My lord...
Do a mountain warfare training and you will easily do your summit
@@devilchandel2051 wtf is mountain warfare
Not everyone has the physiology required for high altitude mountaineering even if in great shape. Some cannot handle the low oxygen. Others have issues with blood circulation to their extremities. So prior exposure to high altitude mountaineering is essential to evaluate one's physiology. Some will never make it, no matter how fit and mentally strong they are.
im going to be the first person to climb everest while high on drugs. may 15th 2022 summit lets goooo
@@AlfredTheBrave Imagine summiting Everest on LSD!! Rumour has it that an NHL goalie once played on LSD. I wonder how big the puck was and how fast it was coming.
Not only is this an amazing doc but I've also just found a new channel to watch courtesy of Rizza Alee. Some awesome adventures to watch! So happy you turned around even though it had to have been heartbreaking to make that decision.
I’m not trying to sound rude nor inconsiderate at all , I’m so sorry that man lost his wife , but for me there is no way I would have been able to leave my wife , and I’m so sorry this man lost his poor wife !RIP poor mans wife !
Agreed
his wife was begging him to come closer and he left her there to die alone💔 “my sherpa literally pulled me down” believable cause we all know the sherpas are always listened to and definitely make people do what they want
I mean he said his sherpa literally dragged him away...
He did not have a choice. He would have died, too. That's what happens. These people have to make these tough decisions. She was out of oxygen, she could not move. He needed to save himself.
When your brain is suffocating.. All your thoughts are without logic or common sense or what you would normally do or say
My dear friend you have reached your summit. each person has their own summit and much respect for you because you respected wisdom, skill and knowledge. it takes more courage to turn back than to keep going sometimes
Excellent documentary! Really well presented from all angles. I love Alan Arnette- such a well reasoned and intelligent viewpoint backed up by years of experience and wisdom. Hopefully, the Nepalese government does something to curb these problems and needless deaths. RIP to all those who lost their life in 2019 and every other year.
What would you think of sky divers if 1 in 7 skydivers who jumped died? Would this be an acceptable risk for a thrill? NOPE. Rizza Alee is the brightest guy of the bunch to turn back and live.
You're thinking of it as a die roll. It isn't. OK, so statistically about 1-in-10 people die, but you're not a statistic. You're an individual. You're going to make the right decisions, and you won't get caught out.
This is such a basic premise underlying how humans think and how they act. It's largely why people commit crimes; we think 'not worth the risk', they think 'what risk?'. They know, instinctively, that they have some measure of a say in their destinies.
Statistics tell you nothing about an individual.
@@LeatherCladVegan except for the fact that everybody who becomes a statistic thinks "lmao, couldn't be me". Fact of the matter is that the average person *is* subject to statistical odds. This is because statistics usually measure the average person, and most people (you included) are average.
@@userequaltoNull Your first point is the same point I was making. Your second point is misguided at best. Statistics don't necessarily 'usually measure the average person'. I don't think you've really thought about what you are saying, no offence.
Someone could install a pressurized stairway to the top of Everest, completely eliminating any threat of danger from climbing the mountain, and the statistic (1-in-10 dies) wouldn't change.
People misuse and misunderstand statistics all the time. This is just another example thereof. I feel dirty even having repeated the claim that '1-in-10 people die', tbh. It's only true as long as it's true. It doesn't account for time.
I'm actually really shocked that the death toll was so low, only 11 deaths, considering those pictures of the ridiculously clogged lines of climbers trying to reach the summit at the same time. In 2006, 11 climbers also lost their lives, which was the same season that had the controversy of David Sharpe dying in Greenboots cave with 40 climbers passing him by. With that in mind, I can't really see why 2019 is being called 'the deadliest'. Busiest? Yes. Deadliest? Not really.
Agreed. And wasn't there a year that 18 climbers died? Everest is a recipe for disaster no matter how many/few people are on it.
Yeah see you're using your brain and thinking instead of letting emotion control you. Stop that
Is debatable and semantics as to "deadliest season".... avalanches in 2014 and 2015 killed 14 and 22 respectively. Many of those were Sherpas and other support staff not currently making summit attempts, so do those "count"? May seem heartless to not count them, but if an airplane with forty climbers crashes on the way across the ocean to get to Nepal, do those count? If you die in a bus crash in Khatmandu, does that count?
Somebody dying on my everest isn't a controversy. They know noone can save them once they are up there.
To be fair, they said it was “ONE of the deadliest” seasons on Everest
Crazy that the one guy would ask his father to take on a load of debt just so he can climb the mountain. Take out the loan yourself if it matters that much to you...
you probably dont know how credits work
Even crazier that the father would do it.
Or...maybe just thinking if he's "BIG MAN" enough to need to reach the top so badly, maybe he should see to it that he's man enough to straighten out his OWN darn credit?
Even if your credit was good, I imagine you'd have a hard time finding a creditor willing to loan you the money to climb Everest because meat-popsicles aren't known for paying on time -- or at all.
And then spend the money on a heli trip ...
We need more young people like Reeza, I admire his willpower, he conquered a lot by just giving up a considerable temptation , it is refreshing to see a young man be strong and not succumb to Everst's shallow allure. Thank you for setting the example. This can also be applied to wanting the vane glory of the world, fill in the blank and replace Everest for, a Ferrari, a social status, porn, money, name it...all for 1 minute of glory that only boosts your ego and neglects your real purpose in life, like being a contribution in your family, your community and overall your nation.
Ultimate self respect!
I'm so glad Rizza turned backed to live another day. What a great man! No peak is worth ones life. Life is beautiful, death is ugly.
... So Nepal should just require training to be done on one of their own smaller mountains, for certification to obtain their permit to climb Everest - thereby doubling their tourism and local mountaineering revenue: creates jobs, weeds out the chaf, and adds additional time spent in area by tourists.... Problem solved?
Certification?! It would not matter. A lot of experienced climbers succumb, including foreign guides & team leaders.
Problems are not caused by technical climbing abilities, but by the environment.
Human body is not designed for those altitudes. Low oxygen levels is only the beginning of challenges, but its managed effectively by acclimatization & supplemental oxygen.
Cerebral edema occurs because of low pressure & causes swelling of the brain & other issues, causing loss of awareness, loss of balance, confusion, delirium, weakness.
Exhaustion apathy prevents victims from being able to move. They get so tired, they go down to rest & may never get back up again.
Eventually victims goes through their oxygen supplies & may spend the night out in the elements. Lack of movement increases risk of frost bite, hypothermia and death.
In short, there are no certificates or practices for this.
And I have not even touched up on deaths caused by accidents such as avalanches, climbers falling or getting lost.
No, problem not solved.
Even if 100% of the climbers are experienced and capable and certified, Everest still only has a finite capacity of climbers per season.
Eventually, the number of certified climbers wanting to climb, will exceed the maximum number the mountain can safely accomodate per year.
8,000,000,000 people on the planet, and counting. That's the problem with everything.
That wouldn't have stopped someone like Lincoln Hall climbing.
There's basically no way of climbing Everest and knowing you're not going to get badly ill and die. It's a complete gamble for anyone; you're just trusting, praying or assuming that you're not the one that gets cerebral edema.
"Here are the mountains! We will make it up there no matter what."That is why people die on the mountain.
So much respect to Rizza Alee for his integrity and commitment to changing mountaineering culture. 'there's no kindness on the mountain'...
Turning back while seeing the summit a stone throw away is the biggest decision a climber can make. Respect man! Your life was way more worthy than just a five-ten minute moment
Reeza.
You are an amazing man. You listened. To your guide. To Everest as well. You knew she would take you.
Now the heartfelt revelation...
You share your experience with your family ❤
Salute to the Indian climber he’s the realest of them all in my eyes
I've seen other documentaries of this year and the 1996 tragedy and the same thing happened there. People ignored the turnaround time. Too many people tried to summit at once but the comments are full of "brave heroes" and I'm like, no. No it's more like oxygen deprived bad judgement. All the way around. You may have had a few professionals there who saved some idiots but even some of them didn't do the safest things. I'm not trying to bash anyone but there has got to be a better way of managing the tourism, the trash, and keeping people who are just not qualified from becoming another lifeless snowsuit mound.
like the dude who waited for hours on the summit for his unprepared client?! Even I know that's batshit crazy. There's no way he didn't know that guy would never make it, yet he waited and then lost his life, too... mad. I've been reading about Everest climbs for years and it's completely turned off about the whole thing. Luckily, there are a lot of mountains our there, for all levels.
I never thought the tragedy of 1996 would be topped.
My cousin hiked to base camp. She’s one of my heroes.
Base Camp is my dream! All of the fun, less risks :)
I love hiking and being in the mountains but I’ll never understand the desire to climb the summit, especially not Everest. The immense cost, the fact that most climbers rely on Sherpas risking their life, and the long line of people just trying to snap a photo is so off putting
Those who turn around and make the right choices are who I respect the most
Rizza, I believe you made the right decision to turn back. I agree with you in that people I believe are going up to the Summit for the wrong reasons. You are still so young that if you choose to go back again, you can. Good luck
Absolutely fascinating, I was only prepared to watch the fist twenty minutes or so, but I was hooked, this is such an amazing doc, up to the very last minute. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
A queue on everest, that picture is mental
This guy straight up left his wife on the way up and the way down and wonders how could this been avoided. Wow! I don't think he really reflected on his behavior and what that caused.
Leaving the missus to die has to take the shine off the tale any time he tries to impress anyone with his "successful" everest summit?
Exactly.
YES. and blaming others , wow . His fault partly
I dont think he can be blamed all that much. It sounds like splitting up groups like that is pretty common. He said that they talked about it beforehand and agreed that it would be fine
@@deeeno6867 your entitled to your opinion. But not very many people would leave a lady alone with men in a foreign country under harsh weather conditions, let alone your own wife. But then again riskingnmy life would not be my choice either for personal recognition.
Brilliant documentary. One thing that got left out though is the fact that Anjali was told to stay at camp 4 by the Sherpas because she wasn’t feeling too well, unfortunately she didn’t do that and decided to push for the summit nevertheless.
I really wish it didn’t go down that way. She & her husband were very brave to attempt this.