It would be great. But assuming its gonna be the entire roster this time (including DLC) its gonna take MUCH longer to make than Brawls Subspace Emissary.
Yea they have a very tight relationship though and I don’t see them getting rid of bayonetta since she’s a solo character for one IP. I expect him to axe characters who are from an already incredibly stuffed IP in the cast like fire emblem and pokemon
@@benearl1645 yea but roster diversity is more important then the 80 different fire emblem characters that litterally nobody cares abt.. same with half the pokemon. like 4 max or make them hybrid chars like pokemon trainer jeez
@@benearl1645 you miss the point. I’m saying if we only cared about high performing series then they’d put the FE chars and pokemon over characters like bayo
i think all you need is good single player again and smash fans would be eternally grateful. rosterwise though i don't think smash fans (as a whole) really know what they want. speaking personally as long as terry gets to come back I'm sold but the game needs quality of life changes more than anything for me to get back on board
4:14 An exemplary demonstration of the "try to please everyone, end up pleasing no one" principle. I've been a fan of Smash for as long as I've been a fan of gaming. The series NEEDS to move beyond the idea that it "one-ups itself with each iteration" purely by merit of how many characters are present. I WANT the next Smash to cut a bunch of characters (especially 3rd party ones) because I need the "bigger is better" instance to DIE also, I need newcomers who celebrate nintendo's legacy instead of promoting recent titles or inducting guest characters into the "hall of fame"
It’s always scary to think about a new smash game cuz of potential roster cuts especially considering my main is Piranha Plant he was such an off the wall pick that it’s hard to say if he’ll make it back or not
Dang, I had an upcoming video of a similar topic, but you've basically said everything I was going to about why doing a reboot wouldn't actually make any sense. Bring on the 100+ character roster, I say.
That list was raw, absolutely no attempt at cooking was done. No Sonic, no Sora, no Megaman, just straight up removed Jigglypuff? An og?? Added Miraidon? Karate Joe? Weird choices. Smash isn't a celebration of Nintendo's history, it's a celebration of gaming in Sakurai's own words, there will be third parties
I mean he said himself that he hates it. It's just the best he can do with the concept. Also idk smash didn't really have a big 3rd party focus until ultimate and even then it was mostly during the dlc. Before ultimate, third party characters were treated more like guests more than anything. I don't think they're gonna cut characters like sonic, megaman or pacman but I don't blame people for wanting smash to return to being focused on nintendo
Here's my 45 character roster: 01. Mario 02. Luigi 03. Peach 04. Bowser 05. Rosalina 06. Bowser Junior 07. Donkey Kong 08. Diddy Kong 09. King K. Rool 10. Link 11. Zelda 12. Ganondorf 13. Samus 14. Ridley 15. Yoshi 16. Kirby 17. Meta Knight 18. King Dedede 19. Fox 20. Pikachu 21. Charizard 22. Lucario 23. Greninja 24. Ness 25. Captain Falcon 26. Marth 27. Ike 28. Robin 29. Byleth 30. Mr. Game & Watch 31. Pit 32. Mario 33. Olimar 34. Villager 35. Isabelle 36. Little Mac 37. Shulk 38. Inkling 39. Eevee 40. Mewtwo 41. Rex 42. Noah 43. Elma 44. Spring Man 45. Mii
Here's MY 45 character roster: 01. Mario 02. Peach 03. Bowser 04. Mario 05. Mario 06. Mario 07. Mario 08. Mario 09. Mario 10. Mario 11. Mario 12. Mario 13. Mario 14. Mario 15. Mario 16. Mario 17. Mario 18. Mario 19. Mario 20. Mario 21. Mario 22. Mario 23. Mario 24. Mario 25. Mario 26. Mario 27. Mario 28. Mario 29. Byleth 30. Mario 31. Mario 32. Mario 33. Mario 34. Mario 35. Mario 36. Mario 37. Mario 38. Mario 39. Mario 40. Mario 41. Mario 42. Mario 43. Mario 44. Mario 45. Paper Mario
Awakening financially saved Fire Emblem AND Robin’s kit is pretty unique (especially when compared to the other FE reps) yet you want cut them. Really? Well at least you kept Mewtwo. I do appreciate that Wii Fit Trainer is one of your mains cuz her kit is unique as balls. I think they could port Ultimate AND reboot it to some degree. They wouldn’t even need to rerelease it physically cuz of backwards compatibility and then just do dlc (unless the added content would be too much for the Switch to handle, in which case yeah they’d need to rerelease the game physically for Switch 2 only). They could give veterans needing a reworked kit just that while keeping the old kits for those who want to use the kit they’re used to. And then just add fighters, stages, Adventure Mode (with some story scenes too maybe), Smash Run, and Event Matches (not Ultimate’s version of them, Melee’s version where you choose it as a separate mode).
I can see them bringing back as many characters as possible (within reason, such as most 1st parties) and strike a nice balance of totally reworking older smash characters while keeping an 'echo' of their 'original' Smash moveset. Though, for the aforementioned advertising reason, some 3rd parties would be crazy not to lend their characters when this last Smash sold tens of millions. The team can do a lot to improve and expand on casual modes, such as Squad Battle, custom battles (including being able to make unique shareable ones) & a new full-blown 'subspace-emissary'. This alone would give the game a lot of value. I think Nintendo might decide they can make buck on this new title and will sell multiple character skins (not just Mii accessories).
8:31 Were you trying to say no one would care for Terry? He was the mascot for the FGC. Outside of the US, Terry Bogard is a household name just like Ryu, especially with Latin America and Japan, where they popped off hard for the character. Japan is the biggest reason Hero from Dragon Quest made the cut. Believe it or not, Japan doesn't really give a crap about Sonic the Hedgehog or the series as a whole.
Bro yes! You got my respect. I’ve been saying for years Mario‘s grab should be Cappy not a special move. I respect you for that. Though I disagree with you donkey Kong using a gun doesn’t make sense for his character nowadays.
It’s like you purposely made the roster bad on purpose to be quote on quote “realistic” and cause negative comments to boost you in the algorithm…. Wait
All smash rosters that cut the roster in half look bad. I can't really see too many things here I would do differently. I'd probably cut daisy and try to fit in sonic, megaman and pac-man but it really is a difficult task
I like that you pointed out Smash is the best marketing opportunity in the world. It absolutely is. If Maytag put their washers and dryers in the game their sales would boom.
OK people complain about luigi's grab because it's stupid. Before people found 0to death nobody complain. Suite the oposite. Especialy since teather grabs were much better rin ultimate.
Here's the thing I don't even think you have to scale the roster number by much. Have the total roster before DLC and including 10 newcomers be somewhere in the 60s. Rework the desperate cases like Ganondorf and then put the rest of the resources toward increasing the modes and single player content. As lohg as the game feels distinct from ultimate it would justify it's existence. Especially given Switch 2 will be backwards compatible i think that's actually the only option for making a new smash game besides just updating ultimate because Ultimate is right there. Why buy a new game if it's the same as the last one that already is the ultimate package. You would then also have the option of added back legacy characters as DLC which would allow you to extend the period that the game is supported significantly which is essential for a game's legacy in this day and age. I cut like 20 or 30 characters. That like 5 or 6 years worth of DLC right there and that's without adding in newcomers. I honestly think the biggest benefit to cutting the roster is free up time to make more modes and newcomers which for Ultimates roster size, it's actually quite lacking in. On release it only added Ridley, Krool, the Belmonts, Ken (kinda), and Incineroar (and the echo fighters for what they are worth) the rest were downloadable content.
I didn't care for a few of the new additions and was upset at some cuts but bro actually out together a solid Roster. And as an FE Fan finally seeing someone point out and not just cut all the Fe Reps except Marth and Ike Like I can't even be mad at this roster cause like it's actually good
The same way they surpassed Melee with Brawl and Brawl with Smash 4 It baffles me how so many people still fail to understand just what Smash is this far out
Here are my ideas. I think there is NO WAY to make everyone happy with a Smash Game that cuts alot of characters. So i figured why try!? option 1) Super DISNEY Bros. Yup thats right. I would love to see Nintendo and Sakuria get their hands on making a smash bros with disneys IPs. Imagine darth maul vs Goofy vs spiderman vs lizzie Mcguire! It be so fun Option 2) we change smash bros from a 2d platform fighter to a 3d platform fighter. This would lessen the blow and really shake up the franchise. Im imagining a king of the kill game where you have to stand on the hill and throw off your opponents Option 3) super smash bros ultimate DLC.....this make me really happy actually even if idk if the community would be happy with this
I actually have a great concept for a Smash Bros 6. I of course had to cut a good chunk of Ultimate’s roster. But I think my roster is actually damn near perfect for a Smash sequel.
I think that Smash can reach the heights achieved in Ultimate, and even surpass them if they add more substantial modes, but I don't think that they should try to up themselves right now, I think that it'd be best to wait for another 2 lower achiever entries inbetween Ultimate and this potential Ultimate 2 At the same time, they would have it a thousand times easier just making an Ultimate Deluxe for the next entry, and rather than cutting contnent, just taking everything they got in Ultimate and keep adding on top (especially more substantial modes rather than just more characters)
I think some characters I think not only need to survive the cast cut but desperately deserve atleast one other fighter from their IP are bayonetta, joker, and the pits. And if there’s room for Completely new characters not tied to one of the existing characters then it’s kinda criminal that we haven’t gotten a single warioware or ace attorney character. Downsizing the roster to get rid of say 80% of the fire emblem characters and maybe some of the pokemon to give room for characters from underrepresented series to hop in without making the cast too big to even function
There are still three characters from Smash’s past that are missing from the playable roster. And all three of them are Zelda characters. The movesets came back, but the characters were replaced. Twilight Princess Link, Ocarina of Time Zelda, and Twilight Princess Zelda are not in the game. This makes the Everyone is Here line in Smash Ultimate’s advertising a BIG FAT LIE. Breath of the Wild is set over 10 millennia after Twilight Princess, making it impossible for Twilight Princess Link to be BotW Link.
Imagine having Mickey Mouse because of a collaboration with Disney and Square Enix to put Mickey there and a Super Mario World for Kingdom Hearts 4. I know I'm dreaming too much but we already have Sora in Smash sooooo.......Let me dream hahahah. Anyway, I am deeply disappointed with the recent MultiVersus news. Your Smash video bring me hype again, I don't have a switch but depending on how the next smash is gonna look like I definitely consider buying a Switch 2. Love your videos, you are awesome. Greetings from Spain!
it is basically impossible for both an ultimate deluxe or for every character to return in a new game, the legal issues and deals that they have to go through for all characters to return will cost Nintendo a million and if even one company says no then that is a gigantic problem, which is guaranteed with Sora. it was easy to bring back the third party characters for ultimate because there weren't that many and they weren't that crazy yet, but with all the new third party characters in both the base game of ultimate and ultimates DLC it's just not worth the effort. either that rumor had a few details wrong or it was 100% fake
I don’t think K. Rool is in the same boat as characters like Min Min. He’s just as relevant now as he was back when Ultimate launched, and was a very well liked newcomer. So I’d think he’s safe… or I hope he would be, anyways. He was my most wanted character in Ultimate and I want Nintendo to make him a thing again. Also, if possible, keep DK as far away from a pair of bongos as possible. That final smash (and era for DK) always sucked (and just never interested me, but the games look fine enough). Style his current one after the end of boss beat downs from Returns/Tropical Freeze, if anything. Folding Diddy into DK’s moveset isn’t something I’d find ideal, but could be workable if it functions like the OG DKC games.
Honestly good roaster. But with the dev time smash 6 seem to have. (at least started in April 2022. wich is at least 1 more year than ultimates developement. If it release in the expected 2026) There are actualy good chances we get everyone again. But most likely.... At least 50-60 characters. The roasted you have is good. But cut too many characters that likely Wil not be cut. In my 50% cut tier list. I manage to cram Ryu, Terry, kazuya, plant, mega man, jigllypuff, krool, steve and other fan favorites or i'tresting characters. Because my list assumed that the cuts were made to be able to include more new commers. So all your newcomer spots where free. And écho fighter where Also counted as thing that might happen that isn't really had to do so I didn't counted them. And stages are also a dead weight. If they cut half of them like that one leak sujet. We are pretty much sure more characters is possible. This may seem like cheating. But they also assume dev time. Dev tricks etc.
I mean game development doesn’t just hard start at certain points where stuff finally happens. Oftentimes there are already people working on the beginning parts of a game before it’s ready to be worked on by the rest of the team
@seaberrysvideodump9602 I mean yeah. But it would at least have Sakurai since 2022 April. And maybe that a pass of arms to a new series director. But I would find it wierd that Sakurai get booked for anything else than smash or kid icarus. Maybe something brand new. And honestly I just hope he likes the projects.
@@captainphoton1693 you make a good point. But if we go by ssimilar logic then the development time between Smash ult to smash 6 would take longer then smash 4 to smash ult
@pendranomechannel6786 I really hope he doesn't. Fix blocks being used to camp. And he is just another top tier. Steve isn't that bad if you don't camp with blocks. It's the mechanic to destroy the blocks that are fucked up and make him anoying to play against. The rest is a bit too much damage at best. He has strong moves but take block aways and they're just good.
A reboot roster consisting of around 40 veterans and about 8 or 10 newcomers is seen as the most realistic approach of what it'll look like at minimum because there were some people who thought Ultimate's base roster of over 60 characters was seen as too bloated and want it scaled back.
It's weird that I think that game could have done so much better if they just lowered the damn price. It is a fun game, but it's definitely not worth the same price as a Triple A title. It's just a glorified Wii Boxing.
I would honestly just make two more fighter passes for Ultimate, since Switch 2 is backwards compatible, and call it a day. And by the time the Switch 2 life cycle ends, enough time will have passed to make a radical change with the next entry.
characters that NEED to be CUT from the next Smash are: JPuff ROB Wii Fit Greninja Lucario Incineroar Robin Lucina Corrin Piranha Plant Dr. Mario Byleth Everyone else can stay 👍
Return of something like Subspace Emissary but with more depth would be a best seller to me. Such an undeveloped concept that could be legendary
It would be great. But assuming its gonna be the entire roster this time (including DLC) its gonna take MUCH longer to make than Brawls Subspace Emissary.
Bayonetta is 3rd party, SEGA owns the IP and Nintendo only has the distribution rights of 2 and 3
Yea they have a very tight relationship though and I don’t see them getting rid of bayonetta since she’s a solo character for one IP. I expect him to axe characters who are from an already incredibly stuffed IP in the cast like fire emblem and pokemon
@seaberrysvideodump9602 The Bayonetta games sell poorly. Their sales are lower than Arms.
@@benearl1645 yea but roster diversity is more important then the 80 different fire emblem characters that litterally nobody cares abt.. same with half the pokemon. like 4 max or make them hybrid chars like pokemon trainer jeez
@seaberrysvideodump9602 I agree. All I talked about was Bayonetta. I didn't say anything about Fire Emblem or Pokemon
@@benearl1645 you miss the point. I’m saying if we only cared about high performing series then they’d put the FE chars and pokemon over characters like bayo
I can see a new smash game being made but i don't see everyone coming back
Atleast not for a long time like maybe not till like.. smash 10
I like how people think this and then they just add on to the roster to shit on this thinking 💀
i think all you need is good single player again and smash fans would be eternally grateful. rosterwise though i don't think smash fans (as a whole) really know what they want. speaking personally as long as terry gets to come back I'm sold but the game needs quality of life changes more than anything for me to get back on board
Terry can take a break he's in everything now
Sorry dude, can’t cut Pikmin entirely off the roster. They’re not doing that after the success of Pikmin 4
But we can throw Fire Emblem out the window completely let's be real
@ParaplegicKeanuReeves didn't the last 2 fire emblem games do really well?
4:14 An exemplary demonstration of the "try to please everyone, end up pleasing no one" principle.
I've been a fan of Smash for as long as I've been a fan of gaming. The series NEEDS to move beyond the idea that it "one-ups itself with each iteration" purely by merit of how many characters are present. I WANT the next Smash to cut a bunch of characters (especially 3rd party ones) because I need the "bigger is better" instance to DIE
also, I need newcomers who celebrate nintendo's legacy instead of promoting recent titles or inducting guest characters into the "hall of fame"
I don’t care wtf happens as long as they keep joker lmao
Dude thats so real. Im boycotting smash if Joker doesn't return
It’s always scary to think about a new smash game cuz of potential roster cuts especially considering my main is Piranha Plant he was such an off the wall pick that it’s hard to say if he’ll make it back or not
We need my boy sonic in there 5:50
I think that the best approach for the next smash bros game is to make a reboot so different that people will not ask who gets cut but who gets added
Dang, I had an upcoming video of a similar topic, but you've basically said everything I was going to about why doing a reboot wouldn't actually make any sense.
Bring on the 100+ character roster, I say.
Ayyy, good to see you here. honestly, I still think that video would be good to have anyway.
That list was raw, absolutely no attempt at cooking was done. No Sonic, no Sora, no Megaman, just straight up removed Jigglypuff? An og??
Added Miraidon? Karate Joe? Weird choices.
Smash isn't a celebration of Nintendo's history, it's a celebration of gaming in Sakurai's own words, there will be third parties
I mean look at this guy does he look like someone with normal thinking? 💀
I mean he said himself that he hates it. It's just the best he can do with the concept.
Also idk smash didn't really have a big 3rd party focus until ultimate and even then it was mostly during the dlc. Before ultimate, third party characters were treated more like guests more than anything. I don't think they're gonna cut characters like sonic, megaman or pacman but I don't blame people for wanting smash to return to being focused on nintendo
Here's my 45 character roster:
01. Mario
02. Luigi
03. Peach
04. Bowser
05. Rosalina
06. Bowser Junior
07. Donkey Kong
08. Diddy Kong
09. King K. Rool
10. Link
11. Zelda
12. Ganondorf
13. Samus
14. Ridley
15. Yoshi
16. Kirby
17. Meta Knight
18. King Dedede
19. Fox
20. Pikachu
21. Charizard
22. Lucario
23. Greninja
24. Ness
25. Captain Falcon
26. Marth
27. Ike
28. Robin
29. Byleth
30. Mr. Game & Watch
31. Pit
32. Mario
33. Olimar
34. Villager
35. Isabelle
36. Little Mac
37. Shulk
38. Inkling
39. Eevee
40. Mewtwo
41. Rex
42. Noah
43. Elma
44. Spring Man
45. Mii
Here's MY 45 character roster:
01. Mario
02. Peach
03. Bowser
04. Mario
05. Mario
06. Mario
07. Mario
08. Mario
09. Mario
10. Mario
11. Mario
12. Mario
13. Mario
14. Mario
15. Mario
16. Mario
17. Mario
18. Mario
19. Mario
20. Mario
21. Mario
22. Mario
23. Mario
24. Mario
25. Mario
26. Mario
27. Mario
28. Mario
29. Byleth
30. Mario
31. Mario
32. Mario
33. Mario
34. Mario
35. Mario
36. Mario
37. Mario
38. Mario
39. Mario
40. Mario
41. Mario
42. Mario
43. Mario
44. Mario
45. Paper Mario
@silverbladeO2 I'd personally replace Mario with Luigi specifically the 26th Mario but like I get this take.
You wrote Mario twice
@AghoginOritsetsemaye-vr2ls It autocorrected Wario to Mario. Also this list is already outdated LMFAO.
Saying this as a Xenoblade fan, we do NOT need more than 2 Xeno reps. Respect for including Elma though
Awakening financially saved Fire Emblem AND Robin’s kit is pretty unique (especially when compared to the other FE reps) yet you want cut them. Really? Well at least you kept Mewtwo.
I do appreciate that Wii Fit Trainer is one of your mains cuz her kit is unique as balls.
I think they could port Ultimate AND reboot it to some degree. They wouldn’t even need to rerelease it physically cuz of backwards compatibility and then just do dlc (unless the added content would be too much for the Switch to handle, in which case yeah they’d need to rerelease the game physically for Switch 2 only).
They could give veterans needing a reworked kit just that while keeping the old kits for those who want to use the kit they’re used to. And then just add fighters, stages, Adventure Mode (with some story scenes too maybe), Smash Run, and Event Matches (not Ultimate’s version of them, Melee’s version where you choose it as a separate mode).
I can see them bringing back as many characters as possible (within reason, such as most 1st parties) and strike a nice balance of totally reworking older smash characters while keeping an 'echo' of their 'original' Smash moveset. Though, for the aforementioned advertising reason, some 3rd parties would be crazy not to lend their characters when this last Smash sold tens of millions. The team can do a lot to improve and expand on casual modes, such as Squad Battle, custom battles (including being able to make unique shareable ones) & a new full-blown 'subspace-emissary'. This alone would give the game a lot of value. I think Nintendo might decide they can make buck on this new title and will sell multiple character skins (not just Mii accessories).
8:12 as someone who hated the National Dex let's be real, it would have blown over if the games were better.
8:31 Were you trying to say no one would care for Terry? He was the mascot for the FGC. Outside of the US, Terry Bogard is a household name just like Ryu, especially with Latin America and Japan, where they popped off hard for the character. Japan is the biggest reason Hero from Dragon Quest made the cut. Believe it or not, Japan doesn't really give a crap about Sonic the Hedgehog or the series as a whole.
Palutena is here to stay , she def won't get cut.. some of those videos are silly lol
Expecting less characters and being ok with it is sad, that way of thinking is what has caused the most damage to gaming
introducing super smash bros elite with 100 characters (and 10 for dlc)
I just hope they rework Sonic and give him another rep😅😅
Bro yes! You got my respect. I’ve been saying for years Mario‘s grab should be Cappy not a special move. I respect you for that. Though I disagree with you donkey Kong using a gun doesn’t make sense for his character nowadays.
It’s like you purposely made the roster bad on purpose to be quote on quote “realistic” and cause negative comments to boost you in the algorithm…. Wait
All smash rosters that cut the roster in half look bad. I can't really see too many things here I would do differently. I'd probably cut daisy and try to fit in sonic, megaman and pac-man but it really is a difficult task
I like that you pointed out Smash is the best marketing opportunity in the world. It absolutely is. If Maytag put their washers and dryers in the game their sales would boom.
OK people complain about luigi's grab because it's stupid. Before people found 0to death nobody complain. Suite the oposite. Especialy since teather grabs were much better rin ultimate.
Here's the thing I don't even think you have to scale the roster number by much. Have the total roster before DLC and including 10 newcomers be somewhere in the 60s. Rework the desperate cases like Ganondorf and then put the rest of the resources toward increasing the modes and single player content. As lohg as the game feels distinct from ultimate it would justify it's existence. Especially given Switch 2 will be backwards compatible i think that's actually the only option for making a new smash game besides just updating ultimate because Ultimate is right there. Why buy a new game if it's the same as the last one that already is the ultimate package.
You would then also have the option of added back legacy characters as DLC which would allow you to extend the period that the game is supported significantly which is essential for a game's legacy in this day and age. I cut like 20 or 30 characters. That like 5 or 6 years worth of DLC right there and that's without adding in newcomers.
I honestly think the biggest benefit to cutting the roster is free up time to make more modes and newcomers which for Ultimates roster size, it's actually quite lacking in. On release it only added Ridley, Krool, the Belmonts, Ken (kinda), and Incineroar (and the echo fighters for what they are worth) the rest were downloadable content.
I didn't care for a few of the new additions and was upset at some cuts but bro actually out together a solid Roster. And as an FE Fan finally seeing someone point out and not just cut all the Fe Reps except Marth and Ike
Like I can't even be mad at this roster cause like it's actually good
8:06 uh why not? That's exactly what they should do
there's no way bro actually thinks steve will be out of smash 6 💀
I feel they gotta atleast hit the big 💯. That would be a sick achievement for this series
Honestly if smash 6 happens I don't care about it if my boy Spyro isn't included
Easiest way to
Add more Fire Emblem characters
The same way they surpassed Melee with Brawl and Brawl with Smash 4
It baffles me how so many people still fail to understand just what Smash is this far out
They should give the Wario Land series more representation, Smash Ultimate had very little of it
Here are my ideas. I think there is NO WAY to make everyone happy with a Smash Game that cuts alot of characters. So i figured why try!?
option 1) Super DISNEY Bros. Yup thats right. I would love to see Nintendo and Sakuria get their hands on making a smash bros with disneys IPs. Imagine darth maul vs Goofy vs spiderman vs lizzie Mcguire! It be so fun
Option 2) we change smash bros from a 2d platform fighter to a 3d platform fighter. This would lessen the blow and really shake up the franchise. Im imagining a king of the kill game where you have to stand on the hill and throw off your opponents
Option 3) super smash bros ultimate DLC.....this make me really happy actually even if idk if the community would be happy with this
I actually have a great concept for a Smash Bros 6. I of course had to cut a good chunk of Ultimate’s roster. But I think my roster is actually damn near perfect for a Smash sequel.
I think that Smash can reach the heights achieved in Ultimate, and even surpass them if they add more substantial modes, but I don't think that they should try to up themselves right now, I think that it'd be best to wait for another 2 lower achiever entries inbetween Ultimate and this potential Ultimate 2
At the same time, they would have it a thousand times easier just making an Ultimate Deluxe for the next entry, and rather than cutting contnent, just taking everything they got in Ultimate and keep adding on top (especially more substantial modes rather than just more characters)
Why would they keep Rosalina and Daisy and bowser jr but cut olimar
I think some characters I think not only need to survive the cast cut but desperately deserve atleast one other fighter from their IP are bayonetta, joker, and the pits. And if there’s room for Completely new characters not tied to one of the existing characters then it’s kinda criminal that we haven’t gotten a single warioware or ace attorney character. Downsizing the roster to get rid of say 80% of the fire emblem characters and maybe some of the pokemon to give room for characters from underrepresented series to hop in without making the cast too big to even function
There are still three characters from Smash’s past that are missing from the playable roster. And all three of them are Zelda characters. The movesets came back, but the characters were replaced. Twilight Princess Link, Ocarina of Time Zelda, and Twilight Princess Zelda are not in the game. This makes the Everyone is Here line in Smash Ultimate’s advertising a BIG FAT LIE. Breath of the Wild is set over 10 millennia after Twilight Princess, making it impossible for Twilight Princess Link to be BotW Link.
Imagine having Mickey Mouse because of a collaboration with Disney and Square Enix to put Mickey there and a Super Mario World for Kingdom Hearts 4. I know I'm dreaming too much but we already have Sora in Smash sooooo.......Let me dream hahahah. Anyway, I am deeply disappointed with the recent MultiVersus news. Your Smash video bring me hype again, I don't have a switch but depending on how the next smash is gonna look like I definitely consider buying a Switch 2. Love your videos, you are awesome. Greetings from Spain!
Just add more lol. That's what every game has done.
Karate Joe? More like Karate No!
it is basically impossible for both an ultimate deluxe or for every character to return in a new game, the legal issues and deals that they have to go through for all characters to return will cost Nintendo a million and if even one company says no then that is a gigantic problem, which is guaranteed with Sora.
it was easy to bring back the third party characters for ultimate because there weren't that many and they weren't that crazy yet, but with all the new third party characters in both the base game of ultimate and ultimates DLC it's just not worth the effort.
either that rumor had a few details wrong or it was 100% fake
I don’t think K. Rool is in the same boat as characters like Min Min. He’s just as relevant now as he was back when Ultimate launched, and was a very well liked newcomer. So I’d think he’s safe… or I hope he would be, anyways. He was my most wanted character in Ultimate and I want Nintendo to make him a thing again.
Also, if possible, keep DK as far away from a pair of bongos as possible. That final smash (and era for DK) always sucked (and just never interested me, but the games look fine enough). Style his current one after the end of boss beat downs from Returns/Tropical Freeze, if anything. Folding Diddy into DK’s moveset isn’t something I’d find ideal, but could be workable if it functions like the OG DKC games.
Insert joke about axing Mario here
Honestly good roaster.
But with the dev time smash 6 seem to have. (at least started in April 2022. wich is at least 1 more year than ultimates developement. If it release in the expected 2026)
There are actualy good chances we get everyone again. But most likely.... At least 50-60 characters.
The roasted you have is good. But cut too many characters that likely Wil not be cut.
In my 50% cut tier list. I manage to cram Ryu, Terry, kazuya, plant, mega man, jigllypuff, krool, steve and other fan favorites or i'tresting characters.
Because my list assumed that the cuts were made to be able to include more new commers. So all your newcomer spots where free. And écho fighter where Also counted as thing that might happen that isn't really had to do so I didn't counted them.
And stages are also a dead weight. If they cut half of them like that one leak sujet. We are pretty much sure more characters is possible.
This may seem like cheating. But they also assume dev time. Dev tricks etc.
I mean game development doesn’t just hard start at certain points where stuff finally happens. Oftentimes there are already people working on the beginning parts of a game before it’s ready to be worked on by the rest of the team
@seaberrysvideodump9602 I mean yeah. But it would at least have Sakurai since 2022 April. And maybe that a pass of arms to a new series director. But I would find it wierd that Sakurai get booked for anything else than smash or kid icarus.
Maybe something brand new.
And honestly I just hope he likes the projects.
@@captainphoton1693 you make a good point. But if we go by ssimilar logic then the development time between Smash ult to smash 6 would take longer then smash 4 to smash ult
@seaberrysvideodump9602 yes that's exactly what I'm saying.
Thumbnail is wrong. There are 0 chances tat steve get cut.
XD
I really hope he does
@pendranomechannel6786 I really hope he doesn't.
Fix blocks being used to camp. And he is just another top tier. Steve isn't that bad if you don't camp with blocks. It's the mechanic to destroy the blocks that are fucked up and make him anoying to play against.
The rest is a bit too much damage at best. He has strong moves but take block aways and they're just good.
A reboot roster consisting of around 40 veterans and about 8 or 10 newcomers is seen as the most realistic approach of what it'll look like at minimum because there were some people who thought Ultimate's base roster of over 60 characters was seen as too bloated and want it scaled back.
if they get rid of K. Rool I probably won’t get the game at all being completely honest
FELYNE (Monster Hunter) for Smash!!
Keeping Min Min makes no sense. Why should Smash keep a character from a mediocre video game that didn't sell all that well
It's weird that I think that game could have done so much better if they just lowered the damn price. It is a fun game, but it's definitely not worth the same price as a Triple A title. It's just a glorified Wii Boxing.
Idk why did they even add her in that case? Min min came to smash years after arms failed. Was the smash dlc planned that far in advance
I would honestly just make two more fighter passes for Ultimate, since Switch 2 is backwards compatible, and call it a day. And by the time the Switch 2 life cycle ends, enough time will have passed to make a radical change with the next entry.
I really want a significantly smaller roster with reworked characters, which is why I'm confident we're getting Ult Deluxe
Sick hoodie
Call me stupid ig but if modders can do more than a billion dollar company then I guess I have Down's. They can easily keep the roster and add more.
Modders can also add things like Goku without caring about the whole licencing deals that would entail.
I have the same sweater
clicked off the video as soon as they said their mains
Do a video on multiversus !
Super Smash Ultimate-er
characters that NEED to be CUT from the next Smash are:
JPuff
ROB
Wii Fit
Greninja
Lucario
Incineroar
Robin
Lucina
Corrin
Piranha Plant
Dr. Mario
Byleth
Everyone else can stay 👍
My dude ditch the hoodie, not a flattering fit 😮
You’re literally hating for no reason bro he looks fine and it’s a cool hoodie
@Boure it makes him look like he's had kids recently I don't care how cool it is it makes his gut look like a deflated balloon
What is your outro song stuck in my head
@@TheEmeraldWay Night Walk: Dreams of Our Generation from Rhythm Heaven Fever
@ thank you been looking for your video are bangers got super into them recently