Looking at this attack if you have this lock you should definitely add some grease to the pivot points it would make it 10 times harder for the bolt cutters to grip enough to do the cutting action I'll guarantee they will continue to slip out and be a pain.. could be enough to make them move on
After watching this video, I actually think that's a very good lock indeed. The awkwardness in trying to cut the pin with 30" bolt cutters kind of shows its genius. For sure going to buy one.
Same. And they have one with a 100db alarm build in now. Spending a minute trying to cut the lock with 100dB blasting from the alarm will make most people give up, or at least give you time to stop them.
@@GreyAmbience nobody's gonna stop 'em with or without 100db except cops car passing by. they will just say it's OUR bike and we've lost the key. and nobody's gonna argue with fellas if they have 10kg metal bar in their (cutters) hands. 20€ U's are bettere than this overpriced articulated crap, they'll need to go with angle grinder against it, same 100db noise.
I've watched so many videos on people trying to break locks. Some people put no real effort into breaking the locks. It's good you guys put real effort into breaking the rivet. It's good you guys read the comments, and made this video.
It is what it is, It’s a good, compact lock for quick stops or as a wheel lock. I have a second 10mm link chain lock, shorty so it doesn’t weigh too much or take up much space, on the e bike for longer stops. If a thief rolls up with a toolbox or a lock picking team and tries to take my bike from the high traffic area I’d park it in the first place, I lose, but it’s worked out so far in San Diego, which is not so classy when it comes to bike theft. 2 small decent locks is the best method I’ve used to date, the only minimal downside is the time needed to use 2 locks, other than that it’s flexible, effective and unobtrusive while riding.
The real point is there are no locks that are unbreakable. Locks are meant to deter and slow down. Bottom line, if someone wants your bike they are going to take it, coming from a guy who has had two bikes stolen.
@joel750 They actually do. At least in Brazil, they steal every kind of bike. They don`t care about the price, they will exchange both a $1.000 and a $50 bike for some crack. It`s not like bike thiefs are stealing to sell on demand, like some car thiefs do
A portable grinder or a hydraulic bolt cutter will destroy ANY bike lock made, in about a minute or two. All bike locks should be TIME rated, meaning , how long does it take to defeat your lock with the above tools. Any bike lock maker that says otherwise ,is selling false hope.
Yes but not in a minute or two. You underestimate the size of some locks. But yes most locks can be defeated with an angle grinder, though some are easier than others and take more time. Mix defence methods and don't park it in stupid places.
@@WetaMantis i was being conservative with the " minute or two " comment . i have seen many videos where it only took about thirty seconds on a kryptonite U lock with an angle grinder and a thin kerf cutting wheel . the thinner the blade the faster the cut although they don't last very long . A 12 mm or bigger hardened chain is a bit more difficult because the chain needs to rest on something solid so when the cutting begins the chain is pushed away , but a minute or two ? absolutely. i have personally cut the same diameter hardened steel with my battery angle grinder and it only took about a minute .
What a crock!! Look how big those bolt cutters are, and how difficult it was to keep them in place, you can't see, but I'd say somebody was helping hold them
Watch our other videos and just look at the size of that Russian! We talked about the size of the bolt cutters in our blog, if your curious you can learn more here: blog.houseofchain.com/2015/02/abus-bordo-pin-vs-30-bolt-cutters-part-2.html
It's interesting that during filming which took you over 3 minutes, probably close to 4, nobody stopped and asked what you're doing. Big bolt cutters are anything but inconspicuous. Video is quite old now in May 2018 but it's still true that people don't mind someone else's property being stolen :(
Good test, i usually get my 450 horsepower 4WD truck and pull away the whole fixation point including bike and half of the pavement. I usually use a 1 inch steel wire to connect to the lamp post or wherever the bike is attached. Good thing is, you can also use the truck for other things like shopping, so it is dual use, not like your tool.
Wonder if two people (one holding alarm device steady/other one cutting) could do it without triggering the alarm. Would have to position the alarm where it would need to be moved for access?
That took quite some effort, the right technique and a seriously large heavy duty bolt cutter. I'm no thief expert but what would be the chance that a thief would carry such a large cutter? Maybe only when the thief is using a large van to transport the stolen bicycles? IMO this proves that the Abus Bordo 6000 is still one of the very best locks...
Detmer Not at all, for how much it costs. I spent $160 bucks and am furious. Way, way, too much for essentially nothing but a convoluted cable lock that only inconveniences the thief by making them spend more time. Crap.
I have lots of locks including the kryptonite NY standard u-lock and kryptonite NY Noose chain. I was interested in a folding lock for it's weight and portability but it's not enough security especially at it's high price.
In the 6500 edition they reacted to this and hardened the pins as far as i know. Its not just 1:30 it's 3:38 (that''s the length of the video). The real problem i see is not that the lock is not secure enough. It seems to take a lot of time and none of the cars is stopping although they all see you. Bicycle theft is not considered a real crime by the public. They just drive by watching you. If you would be trying to get into a car someone would call the police. People are much more emotionally attached to their oil-burning cars.
Well they were in front of a bike shop and didn't look like dirtbags in a hurry to steal a bike, so that's one reason. Next it took longer than a minute and a half to cut. Any lick can be defeated, the thing you're trying to buy is time. If it takes too long and/or draws too much attention, they will most likely leave. I'll be getting an ABUS lock with the alarm.
Moral of the story? Why take the risk? Don't leave your good bike anywhere, except at home or take it with you! If you are going to leave it use a very cheap bike and use two D locks.You may choose to booby trap the bike for extra security! (Keep your good bike locked at home.)
If people are worried about locks don’t usually bike thief’s wants quick and easy targets doesn’t matter the cost the harder you make it the more they’ll walk away this bike lock with a alarm will do fine. The exception of this rule is of course if your leaving your bike unattended for 8 hours or more or are not near by 2 locks will be better than one at that point just to be safe.
More like a minute forty-five seconds. Which I would say is fair enough considering... If no one is alerted or he gives up before that. It most likely wouldnt matter if it laster for 5+ minutes
What the fuck is wrong with people thinking there would be a lock for bicycles that can't be broken? There isn't such a system for many way more valuable things. Every car can be stolen, every house can be broken into it's just a matter of how difficult it will be compared to what the thieves will get from it, and how long it will take or rather how exposed the thieves will be while doing it. And the other thing is why even bother with locks that strong when you can cut off that whole bike stand in less time.... 1:30? I've security videos of people stealing high end $100 000+ cars in less time than that. The problem is not the lock, it endures for long enough. The problem are the people passing by and no one giving a shit...
I usedta have an abus folder...just doing a little research before i take the plunge again.. 1st one got lost...it was not stolen or compromised...was a combo version though which had a flaw...i dont want to say whatbthe flaw was though as i might get yhe exact same lock again
So thanks for making my Norco feel secure, having invested in one of these locks for additional security, after my last lock was bolt cutters off, and every other lock i am told is breakable.. What are we supposed to do with our bikes..
Levando em consideração o tempo que ele levou + ferramenta profissional muito CHAMATIVA , digo que alguém já teria chamado a policia, esse vídeo provou um monte de nada, a não ser de que o cadeado é bom !
It might still be a decent lock if cutting pin isn't possible with smaller bolt cutters that thieves use more often. Otherwise only 16mm shackle u-locks are too big for those big cutters they have. They slip off 16mm shackle so without angle grinder or very good lock picking skills 16mm u-lock is the only lock that makes your bike safe.
I have that lock and this video proves what exactly? That with the right tools you can cut a lock? My plasma cutter will cut 20mm of solid steel but that doesn't prove anything either. Because let's face it, the bike thief would be better off using shaped plastic explosive charge, it would take half the time. Did you see the size of those bolt cutters. It a good lock end of story.
It is a good lock. Unfortunately we are in Vancouver, BC, and it is not unheard of for the thieves here to use bolt cutters that big. They strap it to their neck and hide it under a loose sweater or jacket. What this demonstration proved to us is that if you have to lock your bike up in Vancouver for an extended period of time, you should consider a secondary lock as well. If you use the Bordo in combination with a U-Lock that can withstand 30" bolt cutters your bike will be very secure. The thief would need an angle grinder or your plasma cutter.
It's all about learning the average theif don't walk about with a plasma cutting however they can carry bolt cutting equipment bare that in mind when locking up your plasma cutter
I see bike thefts all the time walking down the street with a pair of bolt cutters in their hands, and even with bolt cutter's, it wasn't an easy task to cut.
so what this shows is that this is what it takes to get through that lock, that's allot of work, and if a bike theif is that serious he might just use a battery operated angle grinder, no lock is indestructible, but the hasstle this takes proves it to be good
just bought one of these and hopefully using it along with a cable lock for the front wheel will be enough of a deterrent to keep the scumbags away from my ride...will upgrade the cable to a quality u lock soon to make the effort seem even less worthwhile and after that its in God's hands, or mine if some s.o.b. gets unlucky enough to have me catch him messing with what's mine...
Hey Raff, We think it's a very good lock and stand behind it, it's a good in-between a U-lock and A chain. There are very few thieves bold enough to walk around toting 36" Bolt cutters, which is what would be required to open the jaws wide enough to clamp around that pin. --Kyle
Bonvista The Granit X-Plus 6500 has larger pins and thicker plates. The 30" bolt cutter jaws don't open large enough to bite the pins. Whether or not the plates are strong enough we will find out when we test it but our suspicion is they will stand up.
The thieves carry cordless grinders that can cut within seconds. Perhaps the best would be an electronic type lock that notifies your smart phone app if it is being tampered with. (So you can catch the bastard)...
It's people like you that made me realize how unsafe my bike was with this kind of lock. I still use it, but only in addition to a good U-lock. If someone really wants my bike they'll steal it, I just want them to find another bike more attractive than mine. One lock is easier to deal with than two.
I call Bullshit! You are enabling thieves. When a bike thief is confronted with a new lock not prior known to him he will have more problems then when he's able to get to know the weak point of every specific lock on RUclips prior to the theft attempt. I say thank you for invalidating my investment in a premium bicycle lock by showing it's only weak point to a global public of 7 billion people. If you want to help with lock security, communicate the insecurities directly to the manufacturer not to a global public of 7 billion people.
You guys should think about your headlines. People who want to PREVENT bike steals from happening SHOULD FIND your videos not the ones who want to steal my fucking bike.
My bike was recently stolen. I had it locked with an ABUS bordo lite. after that experience I'm going back to my kryptonite u-lock, its the best u-lock I've ever had.
It's all about low hanging fruit...most thieves can't easily defeat these locks and won't even try. Personally I use a chain with a grenade and pull-pin for the lock.
If you simply just use a zip tie to hold the boltcutter's head in place, you're done in no time :( ... to keep the bike at your arm's reach is still the best security measure.
Given enough time and violence every lock will be either openend, bypassed or broken. Time, visibility and noise are your friends. So where and to what are you locking it, and will anyone be likely to come check. Thats all we can do...
Locks are nothing more than deterrents. It's real simple. EVERY bike lock on the market today, and most likely in the future, can be defeated IF bystander after bystander simply walks by ignoring the thief with bolt-cutters or whatever other tool the thief is using without confronting the thief or finding someone (ie. police) that will confront the thief. It takes a lot of balls for any thief to even try this knowing the owner of the bike (and not knowing the size of the owner) can come around the corner, catch them in the act and then proceed to beat the living hell out of him.
This would have been much faster if you weren't worried about scratching the bike. Instead of finding a way to balance the lock in mid air the way he was, a thief would just press the lock against the bike with the cutters. munch munch and snip. I would guess 10-15 seconds without all the repositioning and holding the lock in his hands.
The moral of the video is: Get two bikes. One very cheap sub $100 walmart bike for daily commute and always park and lock it next to expensive bike. The second expensive bike for the weekend mountain trail which you will never leave your bike alone.
so that sucked... try or is there a video of them breaking the Iven Chain 8210, or just lock picking it. i wanna know how strong it is because it is recommended by insurance.
Wow, that took some work, do thieves really take their time like that while people are watching? I naively thought they just tried it once if it didn't break right away they moved on. What lock do you recommend if any? Thanks for this video
Buy this one, this is what I use. Those guys were idiots, who carry's around 40" bolt cutters in broad daylight. Not to include trying to steal a JUNK ASS bike. www.abus.com/eng/Mobile-Security/Bike-Safety-and-Security/Locks/U-locks/GRANIT-Plus-640/(variant)/39703
I don't know where you're living, but here in Germany people would have asked a few questions as soon you pulled the tool and you would be most likely arrested before you even touch the lock.
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your overuse of warp stabilisation is producing psychedelic effects
Yeah, holy crap I'm having flashbacks
Thank god. I thought it was me 🤑
holy mackerel, I thouth i was drunk
xddddd
Psychedelic world of bicycle security
Looking at this attack if you have this lock you should definitely add some grease to the pivot points it would make it 10 times harder for the bolt cutters to grip enough to do the cutting action I'll guarantee they will continue to slip out and be a pain.. could be enough to make them move on
Hey! that's smart
interesting idea. i'll be trying this
i have ABUS 6500 will definately grease it brilliant idea! thanks
You are a clever one, my dude
You're a pure genius mate 👏 👌 👍
Moral of the video, lock your bike next to a better bike that has a worse lock.
Yes.Also watch out for that one to be stolen so yours doesn't stand there single
Studentof, Better idea ever!
After watching this video, I actually think that's a very good lock indeed. The awkwardness in trying to cut the pin with 30" bolt cutters kind of shows its genius. For sure going to buy one.
Same. And they have one with a 100db alarm build in now. Spending a minute trying to cut the lock with 100dB blasting from the alarm will make most people give up, or at least give you time to stop them.
@@GreyAmbience nobody's gonna stop 'em with or without 100db except cops car passing by. they will just say it's OUR bike and we've lost the key. and nobody's gonna argue with fellas if they have 10kg metal bar in their (cutters) hands. 20€ U's are bettere than this overpriced articulated crap, they'll need to go with angle grinder against it, same 100db noise.
@@andreika6681 you actually think sneaky thieves have the testicles to do anything with those cutters?
@@ginofoogle6944 Women thieves don't need to have testicles, at least the ones attached to themselves.
@@ginofoogle6944 Don't underestimate the erratic behaviour of subhumans.
I've watched so many videos on people trying to break locks. Some people put no real effort into breaking the locks. It's good you guys put real effort into breaking the rivet. It's good you guys read the comments, and made this video.
*You should name the Video "I play Russian-Roulette with my Fingers" ;)*
my thoughts, too
I want to like this comment but it's nicely 69
I winced 😂
It is what it is, It’s a good, compact lock for quick stops or as a wheel lock. I have a second 10mm link chain lock, shorty so it doesn’t weigh too much or take up much space, on the e bike for longer stops. If a thief rolls up with a toolbox or a lock picking team and tries to take my bike from the high traffic area I’d park it in the first place, I lose, but it’s worked out so far in San Diego, which is not so classy when it comes to bike theft. 2 small decent locks is the best method I’ve used to date, the only minimal downside is the time needed to use 2 locks, other than that it’s flexible, effective and unobtrusive while riding.
The real point is there are no locks that are unbreakable. Locks are meant to deter and slow down. Bottom line, if someone wants your bike they are going to take it, coming from a guy who has had two bikes stolen.
I wish we had GPS trackers in Australia like other countries so I can hunt them down with justice.
@joel750 They actually do. At least in Brazil, they steal every kind of bike. They don`t care about the price, they will exchange both a $1.000 and a $50 bike for some crack. It`s not like bike thiefs are stealing to sell on demand, like some car thiefs do
@@prettyflowerlove We do. About 10 kinds. Google.
@@prettyflowerlove Okaaay, so you track it to Tijuana.
Happy hunting !!!
That took a long time compared to any other lock I've seen.
they will never use these cutters, battery powered grinder cuts these abus in 20 secs
Litelok x1 or x3. Hiplock d1000
My friend has half a dozen locks on his scooter in addition to an alarmed lock. Takes awhile to put on and take off.
Omg that hand so close to the bolt cutters made me cringe
A portable grinder or a hydraulic bolt cutter will destroy ANY bike lock made, in about a minute or two.
All bike locks should be TIME rated, meaning , how long does it take to defeat your lock with the above tools.
Any bike lock maker that says otherwise ,is selling false hope.
Time and noise :)
Yes but not in a minute or two. You underestimate the size of some locks. But yes most locks can be defeated with an angle grinder, though some are easier than others and take more time. Mix defence methods and don't park it in stupid places.
@@WetaMantis i was being conservative with the " minute or two " comment .
i have seen many videos where it only took about thirty seconds on a
kryptonite U lock with an angle grinder and a thin kerf cutting wheel . the thinner the blade the faster the cut although they don't last very long .
A 12 mm or bigger hardened chain is a bit more difficult because the chain needs to rest on something solid so when the cutting begins the chain is pushed away , but a minute or two ? absolutely.
i have personally cut the same diameter hardened steel with my battery angle grinder and it only took about a minute .
What a crock!! Look how big those bolt cutters are, and how difficult it was to keep them in place, you can't see, but I'd say somebody was helping hold them
Watch our other videos and just look at the size of that Russian! We talked about the size of the bolt cutters in our blog, if your curious you can learn more here: blog.houseofchain.com/2015/02/abus-bordo-pin-vs-30-bolt-cutters-part-2.html
woah dude those are some flimsy bolt cutters, flexing and warping just from the wind
Hahaha
No everyone is waking walking around with a 36” bolt cutter
nobody would ever stop and think this was suspicious. best lock for quick grab tweaker thieves by far.
It's interesting that during filming which took you over 3 minutes, probably close to 4, nobody stopped and asked what you're doing. Big bolt cutters are anything but inconspicuous. Video is quite old now in May 2018 but it's still true that people don't mind someone else's property being stolen :(
Next time I wanna steal a bike I’m just gonna record it and pretend I’m making a review video, ez
@@bergman97 haha I think thats why no one stopped to be honest.
He probably keistered the bolt croppers, would make you walk funny though🤣🤣🤣
It looks like they're in front of a bike shop. Nothing out of the ordinary.
Good test, i usually get my 450 horsepower 4WD truck and pull away the whole fixation point including bike and half of the pavement. I usually use a 1 inch steel wire to connect to the lamp post or wherever the bike is attached. Good thing is, you can also use the truck for other things like shopping, so it is dual use, not like your tool.
Fiction in my town you won't get far
ya no me compro este candado ... gracias por abrirme los ojos y por demostrarme la calidad de este articulo ... gracias me habeis ahorrado dinero
i was thinking this looks my home town, Vancouver. sure enough. I bought the Abus Bordo 6100 combination very happy with it so far
With the right tool(s), all locks are breakable. Locks act as deterrents only. Its how long can the process be deterred.
I guess this is where the alarm comes into play, on the alarm version
Wonder if two people (one holding alarm device steady/other one cutting) could do it without triggering the alarm. Would have to position the alarm where it would need to be moved for access?
That took quite some effort, the right technique and a seriously large heavy duty bolt cutter.
I'm no thief expert but what would be the chance that a thief would carry such a large cutter? Maybe only when the thief is using a large van to transport the stolen bicycles?
IMO this proves that the Abus Bordo 6000 is still one of the very best locks...
Detmer Not at all, for how much it costs. I spent $160 bucks and am furious. Way, way, too much for essentially nothing but a convoluted cable lock that only inconveniences the thief by making them spend more time. Crap.
every lock is just a ribbon for a determined thief.
This video just convinced me to buy this lock. It did not look "easy" to cut at all.
I have lots of locks including the kryptonite NY standard u-lock and kryptonite NY Noose chain. I was interested in a folding lock for it's weight and portability but it's not enough security especially at it's high price.
I would think that this lock can be popped quicker with an old/worn set of cutting jaws, with a notch ground out so they don't slide off the pin.
Thanks for pointing out the weakness of this lock.
This is a supplemental bike lock. Get litelock or hiplock
In the 6500 edition they reacted to this and hardened the pins as far as i know. Its not just 1:30 it's 3:38 (that''s the length of the video). The real problem i see is not that the lock is not secure enough. It seems to take a lot of time and none of the cars is stopping although they all see you. Bicycle theft is not considered a real crime by the public. They just drive by watching you. If you would be trying to get into a car someone would call the police. People are much more emotionally attached to their oil-burning cars.
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Well they were in front of a bike shop and didn't look like dirtbags in a hurry to steal a bike, so that's one reason. Next it took longer than a minute and a half to cut. Any lick can be defeated, the thing you're trying to buy is time. If it takes too long and/or draws too much attention, they will most likely leave. I'll be getting an ABUS lock with the alarm.
These bordos are for quick stops at the shops. Not overnight stays.
How easy it is....it only took multiple snaps and a giant tool.
Moral of the story? Why take the risk? Don't leave your good bike anywhere, except at home or take it with you!
If you are going to leave it use a very cheap bike and use two D locks.You may choose to booby trap the bike for extra security! (Keep your good bike locked at home.)
no thief spend so much time for this... its a good bikelock. 👍🏻
why the dislikes, pretty good video thanks
It would be easier and less eye catching to use a grinder :) Honestly, it seems a quite good lock.
It's thanks to these guys, lock manufacturers will invent a better lock to further deter and confuse would be bike theives
If people are worried about locks don’t usually bike thief’s wants quick and easy targets doesn’t matter the cost the harder you make it the more they’ll walk away this bike lock with a alarm will do fine. The exception of this rule is of course if your leaving your bike unattended for 8 hours or more or are not near by 2 locks will be better than one at that point just to be safe.
I think i prefer to have that atleast a thief will have to risk their fingers before they take my bike
I’m wondering. Why didn’t you showcase the built in alarm?
Considering his got a massive bolt cutter the lock did cope well. 3 attempts
Less than a minute
More like a minute forty-five seconds. Which I would say is fair enough considering... If no one is alerted or he gives up before that. It most likely wouldnt matter if it laster for 5+ minutes
What the fuck is wrong with people thinking there would be a lock for bicycles that can't be broken? There isn't such a system for many way more valuable things. Every car can be stolen, every house can be broken into it's just a matter of how difficult it will be compared to what the thieves will get from it, and how long it will take or rather how exposed the thieves will be while doing it. And the other thing is why even bother with locks that strong when you can cut off that whole bike stand in less time.... 1:30? I've security videos of people stealing high end $100 000+ cars in less time than that. The problem is not the lock, it endures for long enough. The problem are the people passing by and no one giving a shit...
Looks like you only need to warp space time to cut the lock.
I usedta have an abus folder...just doing a little research before i take the plunge again.. 1st one got lost...it was not stolen or compromised...was a combo version though which had a flaw...i dont want to say whatbthe flaw was though as i might get yhe exact same lock again
Thanks a test! Greetings from Poland!
So thanks for making my Norco feel secure, having invested in one of these locks for additional security, after my last lock was bolt cutters off, and every other lock i am told is breakable.. What are we supposed to do with our bikes..
All locks can be cut. It's just a deterrent
+Max Silver invest in gps tracking.. as zipper978 says locks are just a deterrent..
Congrats to you! Hope you go another 10...
Thanks! The same procedure took me easily 15 minutes. Gladly inside haha
Guess my bolt cutter sucks - I cheaper out on that one to be fair
You need cutters with a different shape at the end, so that it does not jump out.
Levando em consideração o tempo que ele levou + ferramenta profissional muito CHAMATIVA , digo que alguém já teria chamado a policia, esse vídeo provou um monte de nada, a não ser de que o cadeado é bom !
ANDDDD Abus BORDO GRANIT is born because of this video !!hahah
they reinforced the cutted part in the grani version
So the point of the story here is lock your bike on a what larger object so you cant moove it around too mutch
Nah, just lock it up better than the bikes next to it.
i agree. its hard to tell but of the lock wasn't movable it would have been much more difficult and maybe not possible
seems to be really good.. 1:30 using a monster tool.. not bad.
1:34 were living in the matrix confirmed 🤯
in the effort it takes to do that your bike is pretty much safe unless you leave it out for hours in bad locations or overnight
It might still be a decent lock if cutting pin isn't possible with smaller bolt cutters that thieves use more often. Otherwise only 16mm shackle u-locks are too big for those big cutters they have. They slip off 16mm shackle so without angle grinder or very good lock picking skills 16mm u-lock is the only lock that makes your bike safe.
I have that lock and this video proves what exactly? That with the right tools you can cut a lock? My plasma cutter will cut 20mm of solid steel but that doesn't prove anything either. Because let's face it, the bike thief would be better off using shaped plastic explosive charge, it would take half the time. Did you see the size of those bolt cutters. It a good lock end of story.
It is a good lock. Unfortunately we are in Vancouver, BC, and it is not unheard of for the thieves here to use bolt cutters that big. They strap it to their neck and hide it under a loose sweater or jacket. What this demonstration proved to us is that if you have to lock your bike up in Vancouver for an extended period of time, you should consider a secondary lock as well. If you use the Bordo in combination with a U-Lock that can withstand 30" bolt cutters your bike will be very secure. The thief would need an angle grinder or your plasma cutter.
House of Chain thank you for the very informative reply.
It's all about learning the average theif don't walk about with a plasma cutting however they can carry bolt cutting equipment bare that in mind when locking up your plasma cutter
No? I will have to look that up. :)
Reginald Scot also my stopwatch says i took 1.46.58 mins to cut. not 1.30.00. with 30" cutters...
Holy crap! I just bought the extra large version of this lock for €160.. and you just cracked it
lol same im returning mine tomorrow
OK. Hitch a metal trailer behind your bike. Store the bike in trailer at destination.
And you will lock the trailer door with...?
I see bike thefts all the time walking down the street with a pair of bolt cutters in their hands, and even with bolt cutter's, it wasn't an easy task to cut.
so what this shows is that this is what it takes to get through that lock, that's allot of work, and if a bike theif is that serious he might just use a battery operated angle grinder, no lock is indestructible, but the hasstle this takes proves it to be good
Is this trying to say this lock is crap? I think it's a lot better than most locks, which lock is better then??
you should rather use a proper camera next time,
Or just dial down the image stabilization by about 1000%
Next time tap where the video should be focused and you're done. At least any android understands this gesture. Probably an apple does it, too.
1minute with a 750mm bolt cropper, isn't bad when you look at some other RUclips clips. A D Lock can't do a thick post the same this can.
just bought one of these and hopefully using it along with a cable lock for the front wheel will be enough of a deterrent to keep the scumbags away from my ride...will upgrade the cable to a quality u lock soon to make the effort seem even less worthwhile and after that its in God's hands, or mine if some s.o.b. gets unlucky enough to have me catch him messing with what's mine...
How has it worked out?
ABUS ty for the protection!
So what's the verdict Kyle? Good lock or not really, is there better ones in the market?
Hey Raff,
We think it's a very good lock and stand behind it, it's a good in-between a U-lock and A chain. There are very few thieves bold enough to walk around toting 36" Bolt cutters, which is what would be required to open the jaws wide enough to clamp around that pin.
--Kyle
House of Chain what about the superior model that came out last year? The ABUS Bordo granit x-plus 6500?
Bonvista The Granit X-Plus 6500 has larger pins and thicker plates. The 30" bolt cutter jaws don't open large enough to bite the pins. Whether or not the plates are strong enough we will find out when we test it but our suspicion is they will stand up.
ok! Looking forward to it!
House of Chain Hi ! I've just bought a BORDO 6400, pretty the same as BORDO 6500. When will you test the 6500 ? Can you already give us a test date ?
I like this kind of bike lock
That has stopped me wasting my money on this lock. Thanks very much.
You think any other lock will do any better? lol
Olav Troll I think that there are better locks, what about the ABUS Granit X-Plus 540 for example?
The thieves carry cordless grinders that can cut within seconds. Perhaps the best would be an electronic type lock that notifies your smart phone app if it is being tampered with. (So you can catch the bastard)...
If they want your bike nothing will stop them. Park your bike sensibly !! Oh I left my bike down a dark alley and it got stolen, I wonder why?
training bike thieves since 2014
Bike thieves already know how to steal your bike. We are letting you know how they do it so you can take steps to prevent it from happening.
House of Chain exactly make it harder for them
It's people like you that made me realize how unsafe my bike was with this kind of lock. I still use it, but only in addition to a good U-lock. If someone really wants my bike they'll steal it, I just want them to find another bike more attractive than mine. One lock is easier to deal with than two.
+Peter Simonson
Bike Theft 101.
I call Bullshit! You are enabling thieves. When a bike thief is
confronted with a new lock not prior known to him he will have more
problems then when he's able to get to know the weak point of every
specific lock on RUclips prior to the theft attempt. I say thank you for invalidating my investment in a premium bicycle
lock by showing it's only weak point to a global public of 7 billion people.
If you want to help with lock security, communicate the
insecurities directly to the manufacturer not to a global public of 7
billion people.
Thank you!!! I lost my key and was at a loss as to what to do
I wonder this demo should benefit ?? the bike owner or the future bike thieves??
You guys should think about your headlines. People who want to PREVENT bike steals from happening SHOULD FIND your videos not the ones who want to steal my fucking bike.
My bike was recently stolen. I had it locked with an ABUS bordo lite. after that experience I'm going back to my kryptonite u-lock, its the best u-lock I've ever had.
Lite, you said it all. Total garbage.
Maybe they should allow the police to deal with bike thieves the same way they deal with drug traffickers in the Philippines!
The new one has an alarm that would have been sounding by now. Test that.
how do you still have digits
The best thing to do, if you dont want to steal you bike better not to use it.
It's all about low hanging fruit...most thieves can't easily defeat these locks and won't even try. Personally I use a chain with a grenade and pull-pin for the lock.
any lock can be broken, but this one takes a bit of time. they can't get it on the first try... there will be other bikes with cheaper locks nearby
Good to know. No locker is efficient when one uses the brute force...
If you simply just use a zip tie to hold the boltcutter's head in place, you're done in no time :( ... to keep the bike at your arm's reach is still the best security measure.
But what if it also has an acoustic alarm? 😃👌🏻
Given enough time and violence every lock will be either openend, bypassed or broken.
Time, visibility and noise are your friends.
So where and to what are you locking it, and will anyone be likely to come check.
Thats all we can do...
No matter how much noise a thief is making with an angle grinder on a public street in broad daylight, 99.8% of people will just keep on walking past.
I quite regularly cut abus padlocks off of mobility scooters (in a professional capacity) and nobody ever gives a damn..
Now try it with the one that has the alarm....
Locks are nothing more than deterrents.
It's real simple. EVERY bike lock on the market today, and most likely in the future, can be defeated IF bystander after bystander simply walks by ignoring the thief with bolt-cutters or whatever other tool the thief is using without confronting the thief or finding someone (ie. police) that will confront the thief.
It takes a lot of balls for any thief to even try this knowing the owner of the bike (and not knowing the size of the owner) can come around the corner, catch them in the act and then proceed to beat the living hell out of him.
Hmm... I thought Abus foldable locks were durable than that. Fortunately I haven't hit the 'Buy now' button yet...
This would have been much faster if you weren't worried about scratching the bike. Instead of finding a way to balance the lock in mid air the way he was, a thief would just press the lock against the bike with the cutters. munch munch and snip. I would guess 10-15 seconds without all the repositioning and holding the lock in his hands.
He took 2 minutes, not one like he told.
Bend the cutters with your mind, there is no lock Neo.
The moral of the video is: Get two bikes. One very cheap sub $100 walmart bike for daily commute and always park and lock it next to expensive bike. The second expensive bike for the weekend mountain trail which you will never leave your bike alone.
so that sucked... try or is there a video of them breaking the Iven Chain 8210, or just lock picking it. i wanna know how strong it is because it is recommended by insurance.
yes, really easy.. especially since most thieves carry a giant bolt cutter with them on the street.
André Persson You’d be surprised
Haven't you ever watched an episode of Cops?
Anybody stopped while wearing a backpack will surely have a bolt cutter in it.
Luckily it has alarm that make you deef by the time you broke it
1.13 to 2.59 is the time it took the guy to cut it open
If you remove the wheel skewers, the thief will get a nasty surprise when they ride away.
Terrible. I’m going to get this lock. Is there a link in the description below?
ABUS Bordo Granit XPlus 6500 over this or are folding lock basically the same
Wow, that took some work, do thieves really take their time like that while people are watching? I naively thought they just tried it once if it didn't break right away they moved on. What lock do you recommend if any? Thanks for this video
Really depends. But obviously they'll just keep trying until they're caught. They have nothing to lose.
Thanks for testing that. I was looking for buy it for myself. Now I need to do some more looking.
Buy this one, this is what I use. Those guys were idiots, who carry's around 40" bolt cutters in broad daylight. Not to include trying to steal a JUNK ASS bike. www.abus.com/eng/Mobile-Security/Bike-Safety-and-Security/Locks/U-locks/GRANIT-Plus-640/(variant)/39703
i feel like im trippin on acid watching this ..wtf!!
I don't know where you're living, but here in Germany people would have asked a few questions as soon you pulled the tool and you would be most likely arrested before you even touch the lock.
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