Have to give these guys credit. All that work in those planes, and then just let it go free. To achieve a good flight must be a good feeling. I prefer some kind of control myself (control line or RC). But I'm not sure sometimes how much my control helps. Thanks to the cameraman, for taking the time and effort for us to enjoy this.
this video makes me happy when im stressed, especially at 5.55 with the by-plane and old brown harvested crop in the background, Childhood memories of simpler times:)
I really appreciated the chance to see this event. Its really cool to see some bigger models and for some reason I really dig watching them ROG! I know this was shot a long time ago but when I watch a video like this, I really like to see as much id the flight as is possible. In fact if you pick a model to film and then cut it during the middle of the flight and start filming again as the plane starts to get ready to land that would be perfect! Thanks again for shooting this, it was really fun to watch since I highly doubt I will make it over to see them first hand.
thanks for taking the time to make this video, i love free flight aircrafts, please in future dont keep zooming in, let us see the wider picture, the camera will stay in focus better that way, also it would be great to see more of the landings too, but top marks for the effort you put in to this!
In reply to.... MORCOPOLO0817.. The Planes that are attempting to R.O.G. are being flown in a contest called " The Bowden Trophy" where the rules require the model to rise off ground or incur a considerable points penalty.. Simples huh!! :)
Built a Dr1 balsa wood free flight years ago put an 049 engine in it had the dope coated paper covering the wings really nice plane. I guess its the way the free flight hobby is. You build them for the first flight and cross your fingers . The Dr1 flew up high went into a gradual even turn and smoked from the front did a side verticle pitch an the top wing flipped up free from the strut on the right.and down it went. I went to find it burning on the ground. I suspect a fuel leak ignited the strut plane to burn and go to the strut maybe inside the wing. Its flight had the appearance of being shot down in a dog fight It was an amazing sight. Its first and last flight. I wish I had it on film.
Hint; learn, to aim the camera with both eyes open. One on the screen (or, through the viewfinder) and the other, past the camera, on the subject. Not easy but not impossible and it will enable you to stay on target.
As a pre-teen, mon amour, in Marseilles (France), I too did fly these 'out-of-control' aeroplatforms. Mine was called 'The Willybugger'...perhaps you have heard of it...oui? It WAS quite well known. It did frighten many a person. 💋
I see a few glow motors in the UK now. Platinum must no longer a strategic material any more, Since the pollution controls for cars depend on it's use.
@@eriks87cam702 The first model airplanes in the twenties were all free flight. U control was invented after the war and enjoyed big popularity at the same time that many were flying free flight just like this.
Nice. Tips for videography. If you can control focus, use hyperfocal distance, everything from 13 feet to infinity will be in acceptable focus. You are unlikely to be closer than 13 feet of a flying airplane. I look at the airplane through the viewfinder with the left eye and by direct sight with the right eye. Orient the camera so the two images coincide and the plane will always be in the camera field of view.
The camera i use has no view finder. it only has a screen. This makes it more difficult to follow planes, especially in full sunlight when you can hardly see anything on the screen.
***** I made a card viewfinder (cereal box, or ply) and taped it to the top of my video camera. It is a small cardboard box, 1 1/4" wide, 7/8" high and 1" deep with a 9/16" x 7/16" hole cut in the center of the back. If I put my eye so the front opening corresponds with the back opening, I can center the view in the frame. I worked out the dimensions by placing the camera a measured distance from a flat surface and measuring the extent of the view. I assumed my eye would be a certain distance behind the box and worked out the dimensions from there.
on top of that there is LCD lag. the solution is easier than you might think. get a 50mm non magnifying rifle red dot scope. mount that to the camera either via the hot shoe or the tri pod screw mount. at home "line them up. camera zoomed in 100% red dot on whatever is center frame 100ft away. now you have an optical sight for your camera. next (this is harder) ideal you need a AF MF switch. lock in focus on something 100ft away and switch to Manual Fcus. now you have focus locked down and a nice big OPTICAL sight with no lag. (I shoot rockets the lag is murder!!) just keep the red dot on the plane and your golden.
Absolutely not all electricity are created with fossil fuel. Here in Finland we use, flowing rivers, burning wood or something, even wind... etc, there are many ways creating electricity than just oil. But anyways, I understand what you said with the fueled planes, they can be fun in a way and have a cool feeling when using them. I prefer electric because I prefer getting the airplane in air and doing stunts (It's possible with fuel planes, but probably easier with electric). Good vid by the way
shooting this is hard. very high brightness (which actually makes it harder sometimes) and a very small target. the AF wants to lock in on the sky or macro. the trick is a camera where you can AF lock and then switch to manual to stop the AF from going fritzy.
Imagino que son buenos maquetistas y constructores y no saben volar con RC , yo conocí muchos casos de gente que le gusta construir y luego yo se los volaba.
Full scale is different than model. It's kind of like comparing a phone to a PC. I'm not saying Electric is better than gas, and anyways, there shouldn't be an arguement about that. This video just kind of made me feel like gas are very hard to get started and in the air, I think it's the video's fault. I don't have much experience with gas models nevertheless.
Many of the motors shown in this video are vintage diesels, which can be a bit cantankerous at times. Modern glow engines tend to be a bit more foolproof.
This looks really fun... Howevr the first thing that popped into my head is that someone like Colin Furze should make one of these that's powered by a very small valveless pulse jet... Though knowing Colin, it'd be a very serious fire hazard. D:
Nice planes but why not put in a receiver and a few servos and fly them with radio control so they don’t crash and you can have fun actually controlling them. I have built and flown RC planes and helis for 30 years now and have never understood the attraction to free flight.
There's a lot of things I cannot understand in life. This time, what really instigate me, is why a total movie failure deserve a video on youtube... Yes, there is always a possibility to call me names or just a wigging due to my misbehavior, but... check other comments here: I'm at the end of row!
none of these gentlemen know how to fine tune a nitro engine, all i heard was spit-spit and spattle. adjust the needle to make the engine run at the highest rpm then turn it out about a 1/4 turn toward rich. they will fly beautiful. i was 10 yrs. old back in around 1947 or 48 and did free flight it tickled me to see the plane i built fly.
@@billkuhl442 i would bet they are two-stroke glow engines. WHY would anyone want to build and fly a 100-year old, ANTIQUE design. its just stoopid. the use of these old Old designs, in a hobby where SCIENCE MATTERS, can no longer be excused as nostalgia. these are folks who are STUCK in the past. cheers
@@daviddavids2884 The majority of them are diesels. Nitro engines weren't common outside of the US when most of these planes were designed, and many builders prefer original engines. Most of these designs are 50-80 years old. We build them because they are beautiful, we like to build and to think of a simpler time. Who says what this hobby is about? Wikipedia defines a hobby as "A regular activity that is done for enjoyment, typically during one's leisure time". It's supposed to be FUN! Who cares if it isn't the cutting edge of science! There's FAI competition to people who like the cutting edge, and who have the money to put in to it.
@@maeflower5108 the majority of . . . ARE GLOW ENGINES. not diesel. the fuel was CASTOR OIL. the majority . . . of my time is not spent replicating, with great precision, ANCIENT antiquated Designs. the whole concept of 'scale' modeling is Flawed. because, APPROPRIATE, SCALE-RELATED DESIGN CHANGES ARE SELDOM MADE. or, the original design 'had its own problems'. feel free to not bug ME, again.
I love the purity of powered Free flight but what possesses grown men to spend months on the most intricately detailed and immaculately finished scale miniatures only to subject them to almost certain doom at the mercy of badly tuned motors that are designed to cut out...no powered airplane flies well deadstick and around 70-80% of these landed hard or crashed. There is no skill involved once it leaves the hand and only a small chance of a safe landing - it boggles the mind.
This is the difference between Free Flight and RC. Build a model and trim it just right, without the need to control it. It's a bit harder, to be honest. Anyone can fly RC but, it takes a lot of skill to build a free flight and have it fly beautifully.
Don't see a point of buying a gas plane anymore - the motors just are a bit heavy weight, the sound is loud, and starting up the thing takes some time and seems like take off might be hard. And last but not least, it's not so environment friendly.
WOW! Tell that to all the airshow pilots flying full scale! They had better come up with an electric stuntplane real fast! I fly gas and glow as well as electric and I can tell you that the thrill is not as much fun with electric! I collect dust on most of my electrics but they are fun to pull out for a few minutes. However, even with 5 chargers, I cannot keep up with a full day of flying on electric alone! Once I bring out the big planes, the electrics sit in the grass on display.
All these years later and your video is still making some of us smile. Thanks for posting. Sorry it took so long for me to find this gem.
Have to give these guys credit. All that work in those planes, and then just let it go free. To achieve a good flight must be a good feeling. I prefer some kind of control myself (control line or RC). But I'm not sure sometimes how much my control helps. Thanks to the cameraman, for taking the time and effort for us to enjoy this.
Great capture of the essence of the Brits easy going free flight fun.
that last one was stunning. gorgeous model graceful and very well trimmed.
Exelent film,no anoying sound track just the sound of the day.
Challenging. Thanks for the video.
this video makes me happy when im stressed, especially at 5.55 with the by-plane and old brown harvested crop in the background, Childhood memories of simpler times:)
Nice to see . Brings me back to 1975 when i started with modellplanes . With the cox babebee 0.8 cc
The DH 10 bomber was exceptional,well done
I really appreciated the chance to see this event. Its really cool to see some bigger models and for some reason I really dig watching them ROG! I know this was shot a long time ago but when I watch a video like this, I really like to see as much id the flight as is possible. In fact if you pick a model to film and then cut it during the middle of the flight and start filming again as the plane starts to get ready to land that would be perfect! Thanks again for shooting this, it was really fun to watch since I highly doubt I will make it over to see them first hand.
yes the little trick under pusher was gorgeous and flew very nicely. realistic slow graceful take off.
great vid all round.Loved the background chat.Could anyone else smell ether or was it just me!
cheers Mike
Great video! Thanks for taking the time to make it!!!!
Mike's DH10 never ceases to impress
Tnx for posting. Had to look at the notes, as I was sure these weren't the U.S. Nats! Cheers!
nice! model flying in its pure form
thanks for taking the time to make this video, i love free flight aircrafts, please in future dont keep zooming in, let us see the wider picture, the camera will stay in focus better that way, also it would be great to see more of the landings too, but top marks for the effort you put in to this!
Back in day we used to call 'em "ROG" (Rise off ground) free Flight models....Very nice & thx for posting.....
That pusher does a good job in the gusty winds.
Great event, I would love to see it some day
Anyone know what the aircraft is at 2:47 - red fuse, yellow wings, pusher, trike, twin fins.
What is the name of the little pusher at 0:49?
Great fun. Brings back fond memories for me.
Looks like a real challenge to get scale free flight to fly. Seems more real with a lower turning diesel engine than rubber, CO2, or electric.
In reply to.... MORCOPOLO0817.. The Planes that are attempting to R.O.G. are being flown in a contest called " The Bowden Trophy" where the rules require the model to rise off ground or incur a considerable points penalty.. Simples huh!! :)
3:26 That's some funny sh--.
Cracking vid. Subscribed. Does anyone know what the model is at 2:11 please?
Built a Dr1 balsa wood free flight years ago put an 049 engine in it had the dope coated paper covering the wings really nice plane.
I guess its the way the free flight hobby is. You build them for the first flight and cross your fingers .
The Dr1 flew up high went into a gradual even turn and smoked from the front did a side verticle pitch an the top wing flipped up free from the strut on the right.and down it went. I went to find it burning on the ground.
I suspect a fuel leak ignited the strut plane to burn and go to the strut maybe inside the wing.
Its flight had the appearance of being shot down in a dog fight
It was an amazing sight. Its first and last flight. I wish I had it on film.
GUYS, launch crosswind, (to the right) so that the torque reaction takes the plane headed INTO the wind. Too late, 6 years later. :*(
Looks great fun,
Can anyone tell me if there is a weight or size restriction to this kind of model flying?.
hey this is a cute video! i love this video! i love putting music on to this video! I love you!
It Is much better without music.
Camera man left a bit to be desired. To much zoom left him unable to stay on the target.
Hint; learn, to aim the camera with both eyes open. One on the screen (or, through the viewfinder) and the other, past the camera, on the subject. Not easy but not impossible and it will enable you to stay on target.
I would very much like to know what the name of the red and yellow pusher at the :45 sec. mark.. Are plans available?
Anybody? BMFA folks?
try outerzone.co.uk
Pushy plane from aeromodeller 1995
Pushypane
As a pre-teen, mon amour, in Marseilles (France), I too did fly these 'out-of-control' aeroplatforms. Mine was called 'The Willybugger'...perhaps you have heard of it...oui?
It WAS quite well known. It did frighten many a person. 💋
I see a few glow motors in the UK now. Platinum must no longer a strategic material any more, Since the pollution controls for cars depend on it's use.
Anybody know the type of red model at 5.32 ?
will someone PLEASE put the damn camera on a tripod?
would have enjoyed it more if you'd kept the models in view for longer
... :-)
It looks really good fun but it must be disheartening when they crash land ! I I’m guessing. They are rudder trimmed to circle all the time ?
Electric power as well. I kept looking for a transmitter , none required.
Wunderschöne Flieger und katastrophale Kamera!!!
It's all good
The only reed valve deisels I have ever seen were the cox conversions.
Same...and they had strings attached..never knew this type of free flight ever existed
@@eriks87cam702 The first model airplanes in the twenties were all free flight. U control was invented after the war and enjoyed big popularity at the same time that many were flying free flight just like this.
Brill. Any more ? :)
WHY ARE THEY PUSHING THE PLANES?
THAT'S WHAT IS MAKING THEM CRASH!
Thank you for not screwing the video up with music!
What's the red twin rudder, under slung motor, tricycle undercarriage model?
Pushy plane from aeromodeller 1995
thanks!
Seems to be a problem with countering engine torque.
Be honest:
Did you FUI (filming under influence)?
Nice. Tips for videography. If you can control focus, use hyperfocal distance, everything from 13 feet to infinity will be in acceptable focus. You are unlikely to be closer than 13 feet of a flying airplane. I look at the airplane through the viewfinder with the left eye and by direct sight with the right eye. Orient the camera so the two images coincide and the plane will always be in the camera field of view.
The camera i use has no view finder. it only has a screen. This makes it more difficult to follow planes, especially in full sunlight when you can hardly see anything on the screen.
***** I made a card viewfinder (cereal box, or ply) and taped it to the top of my video camera. It is a small cardboard box, 1 1/4" wide, 7/8" high and 1" deep with a 9/16" x 7/16" hole cut in the center of the back. If I put my eye so the front opening corresponds with the back opening, I can center the view in the frame. I worked out the dimensions by placing the camera a measured distance from a flat surface and measuring the extent of the view. I assumed my eye would be a certain distance behind the box and worked out the dimensions from there.
on top of that there is LCD lag. the solution is easier than you might think. get a 50mm non magnifying rifle red dot scope. mount that to the camera either via the hot shoe or the tri pod screw mount.
at home "line them up. camera zoomed in 100% red dot on whatever is center frame 100ft away.
now you have an optical sight for your camera.
next (this is harder) ideal you need a AF MF switch. lock in focus on something 100ft away and switch to Manual Fcus. now you have focus locked down and a nice big OPTICAL sight with no lag. (I shoot rockets the lag is murder!!) just keep the red dot on the plane and your golden.
1.50 looks like he got a bite from the prop
amazing!
Gotta zoom out on small moving objects to keep them in the frame. Just sayin. Enjoyed it otherwise thanks.
The cameraman has gotten more comments than anything else😂😁
thanks but please! film the landings!
Free flight models don't land they arrive
"There was lots I missed..." Yes... all the landings ;-(
I'm sure It would have been good to watch but I mostly saw empty sky and blurred scenery, such a shame.☹😅🤣
Not a single full flight captured. Nice.
False.
Absolutely not all electricity are created with fossil fuel. Here in Finland we use, flowing rivers, burning wood or something, even wind... etc, there are many ways creating electricity than just oil. But anyways, I understand what you said with the fueled planes, they can be fun in a way and have a cool feeling when using them. I prefer electric because I prefer getting the airplane in air and doing stunts (It's possible with fuel planes, but probably easier with electric). Good vid by the way
love the beriot
REAL FLYINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGFAB DAYS
ROGs are tough... 😁
Why are all the motors running so roughly?
When disappointment becomes fun
A properly trimmed plane should power right Glide left😋
What is up with dammned cameraman?
You don't have to watch.
shooting this is hard. very high brightness (which actually makes it harder sometimes) and a very small target. the AF wants to lock in on the sky or macro. the trick is a camera where you can AF lock and then switch to manual to stop the AF from going fritzy.
Ya what????
Order! Orderrr!! Orrrduhhh!!!
Well, who am I to judge? As long as you are not hurting anyone else, then your choice of lifestyle should be respected.
These people are painfriendly
Imagino que son buenos maquetistas y constructores y no saben volar con RC , yo conocí muchos casos de gente que le gusta construir y luego yo se los volaba.
My eyes! My eyes!
Full scale is different than model. It's kind of like comparing a phone to a PC. I'm not saying Electric is better than gas, and anyways, there shouldn't be an arguement about that. This video just kind of made me feel like gas are very hard to get started and in the air, I think it's the video's fault. I don't have much experience with gas models nevertheless.
Many of the motors shown in this video are vintage diesels, which can be a bit cantankerous at times. Modern glow engines tend to be a bit more foolproof.
Might want to take a couple of lessons on how to use a camera....
Is the missing engine due to lousy tuning or is the rich running engine a technique for free flight. I'm like, lean sucker out
Great videos. Don’t worry about the dolts who complain, but do nothing useful.
This looks really fun... Howevr the first thing that popped into my head is that someone like Colin Furze should make one of these that's powered by a very small valveless pulse jet... Though knowing Colin, it'd be a very serious fire hazard. D:
First things first, get a camera man who can bloody see 🤣😂.
Very interesting, I never knew such a hobby existed.
Try to stay on the planes when you take a video!
How I miss the smell of diesel fuel 🙂
I started mixing my own! Just get the bottles from Model Technics at any show.
When are these guys going to learn that ROGs don't cut it!
Nice planes but why not put in a receiver and a few servos and fly them with radio control so they don’t crash and you can have fun actually controlling them. I have built and flown RC planes and helis for 30 years now and have never understood the attraction to free flight.
lol the guy with the white plane 2 misses and the last one was a dangerous one; he almost looks upset on each run
Do not get any part of this,I fly RC,but you must be forever repairing,as you have no control of anything
There's a lot of things I cannot understand in life. This time, what really instigate me, is why a total movie failure deserve a video on youtube... Yes, there is always a possibility to call me names or just a wigging due to my misbehavior, but... check other comments here: I'm at the end of row!
none of these gentlemen know how to fine tune a nitro engine, all i heard was spit-spit and spattle. adjust the needle to make the engine run at the highest rpm then turn it out about a 1/4 turn toward rich. they will fly beautiful. i was 10 yrs. old back in around 1947 or 48 and did free flight it tickled me to see the plane i built fly.
I would bet these are diesel engines.
@@billkuhl442 i would bet they are two-stroke glow engines. WHY would anyone want to build and fly a 100-year old, ANTIQUE design. its just stoopid. the use of these old Old designs, in a hobby where SCIENCE MATTERS, can no longer be excused as nostalgia. these are folks who are STUCK in the past. cheers
@@daviddavids2884
The majority of them are diesels. Nitro engines weren't common outside of the US when most of these planes were designed, and many builders prefer original engines.
Most of these designs are 50-80 years old. We build them because they are beautiful, we like to build and to think of a simpler time. Who says what this hobby is about? Wikipedia defines a hobby as "A regular activity that is done for enjoyment, typically during one's leisure time". It's supposed to be FUN! Who cares if it isn't the cutting edge of science! There's FAI competition to people who like the cutting edge, and who have the money to put in to it.
@@maeflower5108 the majority of . . . ARE GLOW ENGINES. not diesel. the fuel was CASTOR OIL. the majority . . . of my time is not spent replicating, with great precision, ANCIENT antiquated Designs. the whole concept of 'scale' modeling is Flawed. because, APPROPRIATE, SCALE-RELATED DESIGN CHANGES ARE SELDOM MADE. or, the original design 'had its own problems'. feel free to not bug ME, again.
85 - 95 percent crash and fail and rest fly perfect no in between lol
I love the purity of powered Free flight but what possesses grown men to spend months on the most intricately detailed and immaculately finished scale miniatures only to subject them to almost certain doom at the mercy of badly tuned motors that are designed to cut out...no powered airplane flies well deadstick and around 70-80% of these landed hard or crashed. There is no skill involved once it leaves the hand and only a small chance of a safe landing - it boggles the mind.
when they do fly well, they are amazing to watch, and there is a huge amount of skill involved in trimming this planes.
that is the pain. watching them work makes the pain worth it.
wonderfulcat it seems like a lot of these modelers don’t have the trimming part down. Is there any way to test fly?
Guys, why not put a radio in those things and really fly them instead of chucking them up and watching them crash. Geez.
Because it is called "FREE" flight. There are different ways to enjoy this hobby you know. Do you have a motor on all your bicycles?? Why Not?
Yes, and don't you love watching all the RC plane crashes.
This is the difference between Free Flight and RC. Build a model and trim it just right, without the need to control it. It's a bit harder, to be honest. Anyone can fly RC but, it takes a lot of skill to build a free flight and have it fly beautifully.
Why is it that all british planes is like shit when they are used like free flight planes?
good! (#^.^#)
Don't see a point of buying a gas plane anymore - the motors just are a bit heavy weight, the sound is loud, and starting up the thing takes some time and seems like take off might be hard. And last but not least, it's not so environment friendly.
Good on you dudes for doing what you like and all, but for real - why bother working so hard on something that crashes every time it takes to the air?
That adds to the excitement. Aeroplanes are meant to fly.
Dan Orr
If you want to see planes that really fly, watch the Germans or the Americans.
Lets spend all this time money and effort building - and give it no control and watch it smash into the ground. Mental ! Stick some electrics in em -
You clearly don't get it.
I sorta agree.
And they are a greasy mess!
WOW! Tell that to all the airshow pilots flying full scale! They had better come up with an electric stuntplane real fast! I fly gas and glow as well as electric and I can tell you that the thrill is not as much fun with electric! I collect dust on most of my electrics but they are fun to pull out for a few minutes. However, even with 5 chargers, I cannot keep up with a full day of flying on electric alone! Once I bring out the big planes, the electrics sit in the grass on display.
YEAH, THATS NOT EASY !!!!!!!!!!
What's wrong with you in England? I did not see a single properly trimmed flight
Gas powered lawn darts
an extrem badly poor filmer...
Rc model planes are better then free flight
No way!
Look up Maxifart videos and then say that.
maxfliart
Foolish comment. "Better"? You like it better is all that means.
YEP!!!! look up Maxfliart the man is outstanding!!!
cameramen =horrible
dangerous free flight and running around boaring
Then don't watch it and don't complain. I'm sure most of us would find your life boring also.
The worst camera man I may have ever seen in my life.
Bad videoing