LET'S ARGUE: J. Cole Isn't Even Big 3

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  • Опубликовано: 24 апр 2024
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  • @SwizzleMix
    @SwizzleMix 20 дней назад +4430

    "We saw you from across the bar and we really dig your vibe. Wanna argue at our place?"

  • @MrAwesomehappy
    @MrAwesomehappy 20 дней назад +1470

    Why does feel like my parents sitting me down to tell me they’re not together anymore

    • @randomsomeguy156
      @randomsomeguy156 20 дней назад +33

      I was gonna say having two people older then me standing up and arguing brings me back to childhood!! Fantano experimenting with some mummy and daddy play

    • @vinceeager8553
      @vinceeager8553 20 дней назад +111

      This is your Dad introducing your step-Mom to you

    • @colonelpopcorn7702
      @colonelpopcorn7702 19 дней назад +6

      @@vinceeager8553Wait you’re so right

    • @deldel5204
      @deldel5204 19 дней назад +6

      Probably trauma

    • @EsperLeon730
      @EsperLeon730 9 дней назад +1

      My talk started off the same way too .. Lets argue... You're Father isn't even Big 3
      ...or somethin idk

  • @mayitakeyourhatsir8632
    @mayitakeyourhatsir8632 19 дней назад +141

    that guy equating using an AI generated voice of somebody to making a cover of a song is absolutely ludicrous. a cover is a different version of a song, it isn't attempting to imitate the song, rather do a new spin on it. AI generating someone's voice purely exists to imitate, the slim amount of artistic value to come from that concept is lost by the exploitive nature of it

    • @ropesquid2085
      @ropesquid2085 15 дней назад +9

      Like, Jonny Cash didn't just 'cover' Hurt by Nine Inch Nails? It was a transformative performance that is now the preferred version.

    • @acksawblack
      @acksawblack 9 дней назад +3

      I love declarative statements on subjective topics.

    • @zapotc
      @zapotc 8 дней назад +1

      Well, some covers don't really do much but I agree :l

    • @mingledingle1556
      @mingledingle1556 8 дней назад +8

      @@acksawblackyou don’t need to say “in my opinion” before every single statement. You can just infer that the statement is subjective based on what the person is talking about. Not addressing their argument and instead going after them because they left out a clunky and unnecessary phrase seems like a cope to me tbh

    • @eon6274
      @eon6274 7 дней назад

      @@mingledingle1556 that just makes you a well adjusted person and not the norm hah

  • @bienzoo
    @bienzoo 20 дней назад +324

    I agree with the idea of Big 3, because i feel like Buggy the clown isn't as powerful as Shanks, Blackbeard, or Straw Hat Luffy, therefore we can remove buggy from the Big 4 to make a Big 3. Sure I can't deny the influence and size of Buggy's fleet, but a large fleet can just get sweeped easily with Haki by any of the others in the big 4 or marine admirals, making them somewhat unimportant. And really at the end of the day, he's not fooling any keen readers or prominent figures in the manga, really, It's just Mihawk and Crocodile pulling the strings.

    • @shiren9976
      @shiren9976 20 дней назад +6

      Lmfaoo

    • @eternalyt5175
      @eternalyt5175 20 дней назад +21

      Watch how Buggy ends up being the pirate king

    • @4dbagel945
      @4dbagel945 19 дней назад +10

      But have you thought about the size and influence of buggy’s feet?

    • @bienzoo
      @bienzoo 19 дней назад +8

      @@4dbagel945 good point, but Luffy can always stretch and have a ginormous feet if he wills to. I guess Buggy wins against Blackbeard in terms of feet, since i theorize that BB's feet would smell horrendous, potentially the grossest thing in all of the Blue Sea. Even outside of Big 4, does Buggy have the best feet in the game still? I don't think so, I have many names in my mind that would fit that, so i don't think it's correct to put him in big 4 by focusing on that quality.

    • @4dbagel945
      @4dbagel945 19 дней назад +14

      @@bienzoo Mothafuck the big 3 it’s just big feet

  • @elive1367
    @elive1367 20 дней назад +3392

    Kinda creepy seeing Fantano talking in the same room with someone who isn’t Cal

    • @MrPoKe007
      @MrPoKe007 20 дней назад +174

      Fr I’m so uncomfortable watching this
      I’m sorry Anthony but if you want human contact try a video call next time

    • @blooman80
      @blooman80 20 дней назад +6

      @@MrPoKe007fr

    • @eedoan
      @eedoan 20 дней назад +46

      now I'm imagining a Let's Argue with fantano and Cal, that would be fun

    • @elive1367
      @elive1367 20 дней назад +11

      @@eedoan That would be go insaneo style

    • @foxsake6634
      @foxsake6634 20 дней назад +7

      It’s AI bro, everything is AI

  • @Darksomnium
    @Darksomnium 20 дней назад +4374

    The real big 3: Anthony, Fantano, TheNeedleDrop

  • @lotsopontso4023
    @lotsopontso4023 20 дней назад +32

    I got so fucking scared to see another person come in that I threw away my phone

  • @oilineder
    @oilineder 20 дней назад +43

    hearing tyler mentioned in the top three discussion is a very pleasant suprise for today. good take

  • @In.New.York.I.Milly.Rock.
    @In.New.York.I.Milly.Rock. 20 дней назад +709

    8. We Argue Together

    • @Stella_Ultima
      @Stella_Ultima 20 дней назад +24

      9. Melon Hearts

    • @runningman3769
      @runningman3769 20 дней назад +19

      Disc 2. 1) Count melon out

    • @ace_woe
      @ace_woe 19 дней назад

      @@runningman3769 11. Clown 🤡

    • @JamesKovacic
      @JamesKovacic 19 дней назад +27

      Melon Morale and the Big Chuchestas

    • @tubbisaurusrex
      @tubbisaurusrex 13 дней назад +1

      Stop tap dancing around the controversy

  • @thisneverhappenstome
    @thisneverhappenstome 20 дней назад +639

    Alright, Mom and Dad. I'll try to get my grades up.

  • @justnachoday5811
    @justnachoday5811 20 дней назад +62

    I now understand why Fantano doesn’t like Drake. Because like Arby’s, Drake’s got the meats.

    • @leftisbest7173
      @leftisbest7173 20 дней назад +2

      Heyyyyyooooo!

    • @4dbagel945
      @4dbagel945 19 дней назад +3

      But doesn’t he love vegan cookie recipe?

    • @CMStrawbridge
      @CMStrawbridge 3 дня назад

      🎶BBL DRIZZY, OH! BB ELL DRIZZAAAY, HOOO HOO-HOO🎶

  • @b8IIin
    @b8IIin 17 дней назад +42

    Her not reading the questions properly was irking the hell out of me

  • @countyfacts6920
    @countyfacts6920 20 дней назад +542

    Not sure which is crazier....
    Cal Chuchesta being featured in almost every main channel video-
    Or the return of "Let's Argue"

    • @skilless935
      @skilless935 20 дней назад +67

      What's craziest is Fantano bringing a woman on screen

    • @leonsalgeuro
      @leonsalgeuro 20 дней назад +25

      For real, Cal's made a massive comeback on the main channel

    • @cesartijerino4239
      @cesartijerino4239 20 дней назад +21

      Fantano has been off the rails this year lmao

    • @blarghblargh
      @blarghblargh 20 дней назад +5

      ​@@skilless935 this is not the first time. Guessing you're new here.

    • @facundozapata7364
      @facundozapata7364 19 дней назад +2

      Divorce really made a number on him lmao

  • @The_CuriosityHub
    @The_CuriosityHub 20 дней назад +2134

    I can't believe Melon collabed with Aubrey Plaza

    • @ludou7
      @ludou7 20 дней назад +47

      Ugly Plaza *

    • @donnie1725
      @donnie1725 20 дней назад +363

      ​@@ludou7🙄

    • @athilhenderson971
      @athilhenderson971 20 дней назад +168

      She lowkey looks like that lady from ratatouille

    • @simpoly6929
      @simpoly6929 20 дней назад +44

      Melon tryin to clap

    • @simpoly6929
      @simpoly6929 20 дней назад

      ​@athilhenderson971 and?

  • @crashbandicoot5636
    @crashbandicoot5636 20 дней назад +62

    Recency bias is a hell of a thing.

  • @fortheSavior
    @fortheSavior 20 дней назад +8

    The last Chipotle I went to, all of the staff were visibly stoned, the place smelled like weed, and every table had trash on it.

  • @Bobnicky-
    @Bobnicky- 20 дней назад +693

    I understand J Cole apologising to Kendrick after the diss but he didn’t have to go and change his middle name to Lamar

    • @thenamelessone6119
      @thenamelessone6119 20 дней назад +42

      JL Cole

    • @LutherTheOne
      @LutherTheOne 20 дней назад +14

      Tf ,thats his government name 🤦🏾he's called Jermaine Lamarr Cole hence Jcole

    • @ThunderSpecial
      @ThunderSpecial 20 дней назад +71

      ​@@LutherTheOner/woooosh

    • @iiAmShatter
      @iiAmShatter 20 дней назад +7

      ​@@LutherTheOner/whoooosh

    • @poetryismyting8854
      @poetryismyting8854 20 дней назад +15

      @@LutherTheOneactually his name is Jermaine Cole Lamar. His last name is Lamar. Kendrick’s middle name is Lamar. Kendrick Lamar Duckworth

  • @TEproductons
    @TEproductons 20 дней назад +820

    Cole can't catch a break 😂

    • @AsianHazza09
      @AsianHazza09 20 дней назад +59

      after the apology he did it to himself

    • @gangg1762
      @gangg1762 20 дней назад +5

      He deserves it for what he did to his fans

    • @firstlast9846
      @firstlast9846 20 дней назад +65

      Even still.. a lot of people will tune into “The Fall Off” (God that album name has aged poorly) to see what he has to say.. but it’s not gonna hit the same. And anytime he says he “wants smoke” on the album - people are gonna fast forward 10 seconds or change to next track 💀

    • @olblue3478
      @olblue3478 20 дней назад +6

      ​@@firstlast9846you mean gracefully

    • @MrPoKe007
      @MrPoKe007 20 дней назад +1

      Only move that’ll save him a full diss album that goes hard

  • @TannerHowe
    @TannerHowe 20 дней назад +3

    We need more content with these two!

  • @gorddihiryn444
    @gorddihiryn444 20 дней назад +2

    the chemistry between you two is great, more collabs in the future I hope :)

  • @TheMrManjana
    @TheMrManjana 20 дней назад +633

    Yeah we all know that the real big 3 are Eminem, Vanilla Ice and Fred Durst

    • @KL6Soup
      @KL6Soup 20 дней назад +34

      terrible list, kid rock over fred any day.

    • @Cohen-
      @Cohen- 20 дней назад +30

      ​@@KL6Soup Wrong. Obviously G-Eazy

    • @ruff1236
      @ruff1236 20 дней назад +41

      No Tom macdonald?!?

    • @ecab992
      @ecab992 20 дней назад +32

      No Macklemore???

    • @ThisDude234
      @ThisDude234 20 дней назад +23

      No MGK??

  • @TSAdu
    @TSAdu 20 дней назад +1212

    Who knew apologizing would get you demoted 💀

    • @Sataka23clips
      @Sataka23clips 20 дней назад +14

      Lmao 🤣🤣

    • @Orpheus_Online
      @Orpheus_Online 20 дней назад +74

      He shoulda never been up there in the first place

    • @Ilostmyairpod
      @Ilostmyairpod 20 дней назад

      We all knew? You’re basically taking knee which is a bitch move. That’s it period.

    • @dashondennis-watkins530
      @dashondennis-watkins530 20 дней назад +24

      @@Orpheus_Onlineyou gotta tell me somebody who raps on his level that would replace him

    • @Ianis_bs110
      @Ianis_bs110 20 дней назад +34

      ​@@dashondennis-watkins530maybe Denzel

  • @golbeatspro
    @golbeatspro 20 дней назад +1

    i like the energy around arguing... for me, that's the right approach!! Nice One @fantano

  • @smitmodi8265
    @smitmodi8265 20 дней назад +11

    if cole was called cdot you'd put him in its just big him

  • @jenconvertibles
    @jenconvertibles 20 дней назад +355

    Bold of Olivia Rodrigo to criticise her own music like that

  • @squilliam6001
    @squilliam6001 20 дней назад +831

    The real problem with the big 3 is that we arbitrarily decided to stop at 3. Hip-hop is too diverse for 3 people to represent even just the major waves in the genre.

    • @AaraliRam
      @AaraliRam 20 дней назад +132

      Why did we ever ditch top 5, 5 was a number that felt like could include different lanes and vibes while forcing you to be selective. 3 is some real scarcity mindset, "what grain based food should go?" type beat

    • @ogpandamonium
      @ogpandamonium 20 дней назад +78

      J Cole just saidbthat and now everyone's acting like its a thing

    • @devzeppelin
      @devzeppelin 20 дней назад +13

      W take, actually.

    • @porkeywings
      @porkeywings 20 дней назад +54

      ​@@ogpandamonium literally, it was just a cold bar he wrote for first person shooters, not meant to be some codified rap bible "the big 3". Theres really no big 3, kendricks one of the best technically skilled but theres plenty of rappers out there who can go toe to toe with him

    • @flaminghead1va
      @flaminghead1va 20 дней назад +4

      Well in Metal, there was 'the Big Four'; so either J Cole said this to be deliberately different OR ....someone else popularized the idea of big 3 in hip hop culture 🤷‍♂️

  • @jonathansaraco
    @jonathansaraco 16 дней назад +4

    It was really cool to have a guest for Lets Argue. I just wish she read the tweets properly? It wasnt clear to me if Anthony understood that the tweets were saying that Kid Cudi should be considered a top 10 rapper of the 2010s, not all time. And that Drake is the McDonald's of hiphop, not music. Those meaningfully change what the tweets were saying.

  • @xBeepz
    @xBeepz 20 дней назад +52

    Lil Wayne Big 3??? We all agreed Big 3 is 2010's no??? Cause no way Drake and Kendrick are Big 3 OAT. I'd be concerned if Potty thinks so.

    • @username-ek1kd
      @username-ek1kd 16 дней назад +11

      Tf you mean Kendrick isn't in the big 3 OAT

    • @JACK-OMARI
      @JACK-OMARI 13 дней назад

      ​@@username-ek1kdHe's not

    • @narhwallord6985
      @narhwallord6985 11 дней назад +7

      ​@@JACK-OMARI I would think K has a better shot than anyone else in the modern Era at this point

  • @firetxranger
    @firetxranger 20 дней назад +172

    I mean the Big 3 is pretty obvious. We all know it's
    1. Corey Feldman
    2. Corey Feldman (child actor)
    3. Corey Feldman (Angelic 2 The Core artist/musician/creator)

    • @randomsomeguy156
      @randomsomeguy156 20 дней назад +6

      People need go swap "fantano you didn't need to say racist thing and " it would be an 8 if it were blank" with Corey Feldman relating comments or just the word Corey Feldman

    • @GLOCK-NINE-666
      @GLOCK-NINE-666 19 дней назад +1

      The best version of Corey Feldman is Donatello the Ninja Turtle from 1990 .

  • @IK-yb5rn
    @IK-yb5rn 20 дней назад +250

    I think Big Three refers to the 2010s era. Rappers like Lil Wayne and Kanye were already legends before anyone heard of Drake or Kendrick, so they shouldn’t count

    • @Flat_top_king12
      @Flat_top_king12 20 дней назад +14

      I disagree because if their dominance continues into the next Era why would it matter? I don't think Wayne has but kanye for me definitely

    • @lawjones1
      @lawjones1 20 дней назад +5

      You're correct. It's more about the time in which they came up and maintained their status. People can say whatever they want but Cole has progressively been getting better and I'm here for it

    • @runa_7022
      @runa_7022 20 дней назад +2

      theyre still influencing this generation tho too, so i think its also valid to carry them into big three this gen too - minus kanye in that

    • @abcdefg12055
      @abcdefg12055 20 дней назад +4

      ​@@runa_7022why minus kanye

    • @teacherpondja
      @teacherpondja 20 дней назад

      Why minus Ye?? ​@@runa_7022

  • @abrahamthayer4059
    @abrahamthayer4059 19 дней назад +7

    saying drake is like arby's and not mentioning how he has the meats is a crime

  • @davisdial3301
    @davisdial3301 18 дней назад +3

    would massively enjoy a podcast with these two

  • @injeraenjoyer4570
    @injeraenjoyer4570 20 дней назад +106

    this format is kinda genius. More guest arguers from time to time!

  • @user-uz3rl7hl7t
    @user-uz3rl7hl7t 20 дней назад +789

    My top three:
    1. Kendrick
    2. Melon
    3. My sleep paralysis demon

    • @lokithecrusader
      @lokithecrusader 20 дней назад +34

      based list. I would put my sleep paralysis demon at 2 though, just so much versatility

    • @conors.6669
      @conors.6669 20 дней назад +12

      What about Cal???

    • @kyleswi764
      @kyleswi764 20 дней назад

      So this is where people go to develop mental disorders 😭

    • @user-uz3rl7hl7t
      @user-uz3rl7hl7t 20 дней назад +47

      @@conors.6669who do you think my sleep paralysis demon is?

    • @bekimmehmedi2905
      @bekimmehmedi2905 20 дней назад +7

      Idk how to tell you this but your sleep paralysis demon has been visiting me in my sleep 😔😔😔

  • @jored37
    @jored37 18 дней назад +1

    That outro made me feel like this wasn't the only arguing going on tonight.

  • @MuiltiLightRider
    @MuiltiLightRider 20 дней назад +8

    Wayne is for sure not "Big 3" of the 2010s. Wayne's prime was in the second half of the 2000s, the Big 3 of the 2010s is people who dominated the 2010s. Kendrick is a lock, Drake is a lock, Future and J. Cole are the ones fighting for that 3rd spot. They both blew up around 2011/2012 and released their essential projects during the 2010s. Tyler started to hit his stride late into the 2010s, Travis broke in like 2014 so that's a little too late for him to be counted imo. J. Cole is the better rapper but Future is by far more influential so it's a toss up between the two

    • @desihayward2510
      @desihayward2510 20 дней назад

      Perfectly said

    • @saulgoodman3963
      @saulgoodman3963 20 дней назад +3

      big 3 consists of rappers whose main strength is lyrics,bars and flows. travis or future are trap rappers and lyrically weak, production,autotune and flows carry them. they wouldn't fit in the big 3 where the two others are drake and kendrick, neither future or travis can body cole while rapping. cole kendrick drake is the perfect big 3

    • @RV1AND
      @RV1AND 15 часов назад

      I thought it was about right now. If it's strictly 2010s then it's Kanye.

  • @momochan2654
    @momochan2654 20 дней назад +830

    “you play j. cole you get the 🐱 dry”

    • @WickedHill
      @WickedHill 20 дней назад +14

      X looked up to Cole ….

    • @nedisahonkey
      @nedisahonkey 20 дней назад +108

      X probably looked up to cole because they were/are both wildly overrated.

    • @EthanShen-dh7sq
      @EthanShen-dh7sq 20 дней назад +80

      @@nedisahonkey X probably looked up to cole because they were/are both wildly overrated. - fantano and his clones

    • @nedisahonkey
      @nedisahonkey 20 дней назад +89

      @@EthanShen-dh7sq If you can't make a good argument just claim I'm a fantano follower and then like your own comment. You're clearly a master debater.

    • @TEproductons
      @TEproductons 20 дней назад +2

      ​@@WickedHill And... 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @Randomjackass135
    @Randomjackass135 20 дней назад +378

    Why the FUCK is Internet discourse obsessed with like 8 rappers

    • @kmw319
      @kmw319 20 дней назад +72

      why you so pressed about it lil bro??

    • @chandler_martian
      @chandler_martian 20 дней назад +108

      Ur right we need to be talking more about the real rappers like Viper

    • @corneliusrawness
      @corneliusrawness 20 дней назад +55

      You know I’m sure people will give you shit for this comment but yeah it’s starting to get annoying af 😭 it was fun at first but now 😑

    • @m00nglass41
      @m00nglass41 20 дней назад +14

      Kendrick drake ice spice Travis scott Eminem Kanye

    • @d.6786
      @d.6786 20 дней назад

      @@kmw319tell him!

  • @mcmcnair97
    @mcmcnair97 20 дней назад

    This was great, Anthony. Cant wait for you and Los to do a lets argue from his car then go for a drake n drive ❤

  • @nmzamora
    @nmzamora 20 дней назад +1

    I like this format a lot, well done!

  • @firstlast9846
    @firstlast9846 20 дней назад +87

    *Just saw a J-Cole Fan at the side of the street* and he was getting jumped. I tried to intervene and he just held out his hand and said,
    “I deserve this” someone check on Cole fans please.

    • @szolim_oh
      @szolim_oh 18 дней назад

      - Give me your wallet or i hit u in the face
      - No, dude! F you... I herebly warn you i can handle a fight and you can get screwed so you better turn around and leave
      -.....
      - Umm, wait. Maybe you need this wallet more than me actually. I'm sorry I threatened you when you jumped on me. Here you go, take this and i hope we can stay friends. I didnt mean to cause any harm and i want to stay in my own lane.

  • @MissEmC2024
    @MissEmC2024 20 дней назад +85

    Kid Cudi walked ... just to break his foot raging lol

  • @light-feathered6972
    @light-feathered6972 20 дней назад +1

    the first 30 seconds of this video felt like a Tony Zaret skit. LMAO.

  • @Benjlmao1996
    @Benjlmao1996 20 дней назад +248

    Fantano why are you talking to my 17 year old sister 💀

    • @countyfacts6920
      @countyfacts6920 20 дней назад +110

      Drake's going to give his existence a redux

    • @MrPoKe007
      @MrPoKe007 20 дней назад +18

      @@countyfacts6920In 2 pac’s ai voice too

    • @martinwalters8677
      @martinwalters8677 20 дней назад +9

      I feel like this should be the next discussion on the Joe Budden podcast

    • @sharibyaku
      @sharibyaku 20 дней назад +14

      That girl has to be 28 at LEAST dawg

    • @vitormelomedeiros
      @vitormelomedeiros 20 дней назад +4

      ​@@countyfacts6920 BRO 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

  • @BigDunk2g
    @BigDunk2g 20 дней назад +70

    we all really know why he said Drake was the Arbys of rap

    • @Kinggenton
      @Kinggenton 20 дней назад +29

      he's got the meat lolololol

    • @L3afo_
      @L3afo_ 20 дней назад +7

      Yooo 😭

    • @ShapeGillis
      @ShapeGillis 20 дней назад +1

      Pusha t also dropped a dope ass arbys commercial

    • @AugustCrossroads
      @AugustCrossroads 18 дней назад

      if drake's arbys cole is high school cafetaria

  • @gymggang46
    @gymggang46 20 дней назад +1

    “ A Drake and Drive” and “Drake being a cool Baja Blast” is frickin hilarious 😂😂😂 people really just be out there with these descriptions fr lol

  • @r3ckl3ssrhino85
    @r3ckl3ssrhino85 20 дней назад +1

    Fun fact: Fantano, on the Best Rapper Bracket video described Eminem as the McDonald’s of rap, stating DRAKE was replacing Em of that title.
    Just coincidentally clicked on that video next and heard that.

  • @SUBMACHINEGOTH
    @SUBMACHINEGOTH 20 дней назад +204

    everytime the fandango man speaks she seems like shes watching her teacher making a big statement

    • @randomsomeguy156
      @randomsomeguy156 20 дней назад +7

      Just smile and wave, smile and wave

    • @jamessmyth6100
      @jamessmyth6100 20 дней назад +5

      A polish man is talking, listen and learn

  • @MrPoKe007
    @MrPoKe007 20 дней назад +47

    Is this your sister Cantaloupe?

    • @4dbagel945
      @4dbagel945 19 дней назад +4

      Naw, that’s Honeydew

  • @intbaggy
    @intbaggy 20 дней назад

    You should do a fan conversation where you do a lets argue irl.

  • @dopey473
    @dopey473 20 дней назад +3

    Limp Bizkit jumpscare in the credits

  • @vegbetle
    @vegbetle 20 дней назад +141

    I know Kanye has gone completely off the deep end, but it's kind of crazy to not even mention him in the big 3 conversation. He has been far more influential than even Drake.

    • @totallynotS1
      @totallynotS1 20 дней назад +98

      Kanye is from an older gen, I think that’s why he’s not being included. I believe his era big 3 contenders were Eminem , 50 cent and himself
      I hate that mf but he is really one of the most influential artists out there. They’re not leaving him out, it’s just a different gen

    • @vegbetle
      @vegbetle 20 дней назад +26

      @@totallynotS1 that's a good point, but Kanye continued to be influential into the 2010s with MBDTF, Yeezus, life of Pablo, Ye. If anything those are my favourite of his albums and from a decade where 50 cent and Eminem not really relevant.

    • @blarghblargh
      @blarghblargh 20 дней назад +14

      He would be top 3 if he didn't drink a 12 pack, whip it out, and absolutely drench his reputation. But it's soaked and it needs to dry out for a while. Too bad he keeps on pissing

    • @ecab992
      @ecab992 20 дней назад +6

      @@vegbetlemy brother we’re almost halfway through the 2020’s. the 2010’s ARE the previous era hes talking about. And Kanye hasn’t put out good work in like 7 years

    • @Joris0815
      @Joris0815 20 дней назад

      @@totallynotS1 If youre talking about his era then top3 would be Em, Andre 3000 and MF DOOM

  • @Aswerv
    @Aswerv 20 дней назад +237

    "The big 3" is completely subjective and makes no sense. Are we talking about the big 3 lyricists ? all around artists ? the top 3 names who sell the most ? I feel like rap as a genre and this topic in general is too complex to just use the term big 3.

    • @TallicaMan1986
      @TallicaMan1986 20 дней назад +7

      Rap is about the bars and will forever be about the bars. Ya'll can hype all that other stuff and get crunk or whatever, but Rap and Hip Hop over all is about craftsmanship, elevation, and competition.

    • @user-uu1kf5wo5n
      @user-uu1kf5wo5n 20 дней назад +48

      @@TallicaMan1986 not true rap is about the content just as much as the bars

    • @godsstrongestschizo
      @godsstrongestschizo 20 дней назад +14

      @@TallicaMan1986”crunk” LMAO

    • @TEproductons
      @TEproductons 20 дней назад +12

      I don't think it had anything to do with technical ability (because if it did, Drake wouldn't be on the list)
      It just so happened that they were the three most beloved/popular rappers of the 2010s, so the label was put there by the fans.

    • @gangg1762
      @gangg1762 20 дней назад

      @@TallicaMan1986lmfao you’ve gotta be at least 40. Your time is up, old man

  • @slackstarfish8133
    @slackstarfish8133 20 дней назад +6

    they’re dating?

  • @zaidlacksalastname4905
    @zaidlacksalastname4905 6 дней назад +1

    I got a mole at Anthony Fantano Inc and apparently he turns into Cal when they're in the bedroom. It's been mistaken for a level 8 earthquake twelve times

  • @elcapo6067
    @elcapo6067 20 дней назад +195

    If we're talking about most influencial, then for sure it has to be Drake, Kendrick and Kanye.

    • @renee7271
      @renee7271 20 дней назад +57

      Isn’t this whole big 3 thing about 2010s artists?

    • @sandenson
      @sandenson 20 дней назад +37

      Kanye is in a different generation, though, no?

    • @landonwalker665
      @landonwalker665 20 дней назад +16

      If it wasn't the big 3 of the 2010s none of them would be on it, it would be pac em and ye

    • @Green-su1mo
      @Green-su1mo 20 дней назад

      I 100% agree even if I don’t like some of the artists

    • @WeedGuyMike
      @WeedGuyMike 20 дней назад +5

      @@sandensonhe’s multi generational

  • @unclephillymya
    @unclephillymya 20 дней назад +63

    1 - kendrick
    2 - Cal
    3 - vegan cookie enthusiast who is also a singer

    • @Helkrug
      @Helkrug 20 дней назад

      Cal?

    • @Nersius
      @Nersius 20 дней назад +1

      ​@@HelkrugCal Cuchester

    • @Aryzo
      @Aryzo 13 дней назад

      clearly no #1 is DJ CRIB DEF no debate

    • @lorenzoiozzo6629
      @lorenzoiozzo6629 4 дня назад

      J Cal

  • @KalaniAmosa
    @KalaniAmosa 20 дней назад +7

    is epotty standing on a stool?

  • @VlogCreations
    @VlogCreations 20 дней назад

    7:40 it’s gonna happen whether you like it or not though. From an artists standpoint, it’s better to make money from it than to stand against it and make nothing

  • @ApocalypseMoose
    @ApocalypseMoose 20 дней назад +59

    The big 3: Anthony, Epotty, and Austen.

    • @flomoyo
      @flomoyo 20 дней назад +3

      Facts

    • @asherrmathew
      @asherrmathew 20 дней назад

      Who? Outside of anthony

    • @blarghblargh
      @blarghblargh 20 дней назад +1

      Shit I forgot Austen. Sorry Austen!

    • @asherrmathew
      @asherrmathew 20 дней назад

      @@blarghblargh who is austen?

    • @bluehole6019
      @bluehole6019 19 дней назад

      @@asherrmathewshe’s one of Anthony’s editors, seemingly the person with the biggest input on his videos other than him. He mentions her a lot.

  • @Ethanol_13
    @Ethanol_13 20 дней назад +82

    The thing about AI music is that if you're only basing it on recycling pieces from a certain artist, nothing new will progress. AI Music won't take over because it takes humans to make the decisions and choices that are required to push boundaries. This isn't for just music, but any artform in general.

    • @TallicaMan1986
      @TallicaMan1986 20 дней назад +15

      The vast majority of humans aren't that creative. Not to rip on them or anything, but True creativity is so incredibly rare. Most of us are recycling stuff and will continue doing it subconsciously. And besides. I already heard some rather Banger Ai music lol. Yeah it comes off as a bit bland and generic like how Most Beginners will sound, but pretty soon. It's going to be able to take creative liberties during the rendering process and there might even be a slider or an option to do that.
      In a DAW. There's a VST for Kontakt thats a guitar. There's a knob in which you can add randomness to it like its a human playing as opposed to the riff sounding the exact same everytime it's repeated.
      Ai is a space in art that we didn't think was possible. I believe this is more a blessing in disguise then anything else. Nobody had the foresight to see that Ai could be creative before taking over white collar jobs and labour jobs.

    • @duewest1987
      @duewest1987 20 дней назад +2

      Almost every "new" idea is just recycled or repackaged from old ideas

    • @charlenemaximum
      @charlenemaximum 20 дней назад +25

      @@TallicaMan1986 the difference is that humans have personality, and that personality will more often than not show in their music. that, and they'll also make errors and have those little humanizing touches that you can only get from a human. computers do not have personality and so they have nothing to express. it's actually pretty disturbing how many people are willing to defend AI infecting creative mediums way before actually doing something beneficial to society. a VST using a "randomizing" algorithm to simulate human playing (which is still *simulated*) is not the same as AI generating slop that's being directly pulled by other artists based off of a prompt that you write in 14 seconds.
      there is also a world of difference between a human being inspired by something and those influences making their way in their own music, and telling a computer "make a 4 minute track that sounds like Metallica". even if the human is "just copying" another artist, they are still using their brain and their human impulses to think of a song that sounds good to their ears, and composing it whether it be on an instrument or in a DAW. there is still artfulness in that because you are engaging your mind and your body in some way to make sound. there is no artfulness in telling a computer to generate music and then putting it on the internet to sell for money or rack up views on social media, and to say "AI art is fine because humans aren't that creative anyway" is a very pessimistic and defeatist way to think about art. it's honestly quite depressing to read.

    • @Xx_BeastKiller2008_xX
      @Xx_BeastKiller2008_xX 20 дней назад

      @@charlenemaximumget his ass

    • @MrChoklad
      @MrChoklad 20 дней назад +3

      ​@@TallicaMan1986i think this is a superficial take. It's true that no one creates anything out of thin air, but, even just subconsciously, people never copy someone's idea as is, even when the origin of it is clear, it gets mixed up with that person's personal beliefs and personality to the point where it gets different, original, in a way, because YOU made it. AI doesn't have anything inherently in it that does that, it copies work from other artists as is, it doesn't have any ability to fill what's missing or to produce anything truly interesting. In sure AI has produced some interesting things here and there, but art is not about making things, is about making good things, if you just keep trying you will eventually make something good, with ai one could say the process gets easier, but let's not pretend ai can create anything a human could not because it's not true, not at this time. Also, an important point I don't see people talking enough about, ai is cool and all when there is enough art around for it to learn and copy, but if the content we give the ai is made by other ai, the process brakes down really quickly. AI doesn't produce art that is better than the content used to teach it, people can do that. Now, what does "better" mean in this case is debatable, but the point remains

  • @apeheadboink
    @apeheadboink 20 дней назад +4

    more guest let's argues! like that guy bradley tastes music or whatever

  • @brotherbear7465
    @brotherbear7465 20 дней назад +3

    I feel like many people misunderstand the “Big 3” title/conversation. Kendrick, Drake and Cole have been grouped together as the top 3 from their class of rappers (the early 2010s) because they were the most popular from that class. As early as 2015, people gave them that distinction. Drake is there because he’s the most popular, Kendrick the most acclaimed, and Cole is right behind them in terms of popularity. Though I do agree, talent wise, Cole does not belong there. However, you cannot replace him with artists such as Lil Wayne or Kanye because they are not from that CLASS/GENERATION of rappers that came up with Kendrick, Drake and Cole. I think Tyler is a great replacement in the conversation as he started to make his name around that time and has the popularity to back it up.

    • @Flat_top_king12
      @Flat_top_king12 20 дней назад

      If we're talking about the new generation of rappers than for sure but if we're talking about the 2010 to 2019 decade I'd put kanye in that conversation

    • @brotherbear7465
      @brotherbear7465 20 дней назад

      @@Flat_top_king12 Kanye came out in ‘04, he does not fit there.

  • @renanmiranda9868
    @renanmiranda9868 20 дней назад +15

    A "Let's Argue" series with guests would be fire.

  • @rcurl44
    @rcurl44 20 дней назад +15

    Really cool of Melon Man to collab with Daria.

  • @dhruv14112
    @dhruv14112 19 дней назад +1

    Bro include earl sweatshirt in big three im up for it just include him 🗣️🔥

  • @Uchiha_Deadpool
    @Uchiha_Deadpool 18 дней назад

    this looks fun
    so this is fun
    pls do more of this

  • @noahdavidson1343
    @noahdavidson1343 20 дней назад +4

    This is fun and I would like to see this collab go further. But also, I think for me personally, I preferred when you guys were going back and forth more than when you would each give your own full thoughts on a topic and then move on. Being used to doing this on your own I think leads to kind of a different style than having two people.

  • @user-ul5yy5tz1o
    @user-ul5yy5tz1o 20 дней назад +14

    Anthony (Dad), my mom is still waiting on the child support payments from the past twenty years (my age) and would love to discuss this matter with you in detail (meet my biological father for the first time)

  • @IntotheAgora
    @IntotheAgora 20 дней назад

    I always love it when Mom and Dad are getting along

  • @LukeTheSchoolBoy
    @LukeTheSchoolBoy 17 дней назад +3

    If Cole's pride, like when he said he's Muhammad Ali in FPS or the entirety of Huntin Wabbitz and many other songs, is on purpose to lead up to The Fall Off then he's easily in the big 3. He seems really humble in interviews and when he apologized to Kendrick so I feel like it could be the case.
    Pride comes before the fall.

  • @guywithasukapfp7835
    @guywithasukapfp7835 20 дней назад +41

    you're not even in the top 3 music critics tony☝️😏

    • @isaacdr3w62
      @isaacdr3w62 20 дней назад +4

      ok but in terms of influence who would be the big 3 music critics?
      Pitchfork, Rolling Stone, and???

    • @perhaps1094
      @perhaps1094 20 дней назад +4

      @@isaacdr3w62 Man that's depressing

    • @Kalitayy
      @Kalitayy 20 дней назад +3

      @@isaacdr3w62Brad Taste in Music

    • @isaacjones5937
      @isaacjones5937 20 дней назад +2

      @@isaacdr3w62Village voice dude, robert christgau

    • @biconditionals
      @biconditionals 20 дней назад

      ​@@isaacjones5937 Christgau is a legend but what's his influence like today? How about Stephen Thomas Erlewine - surely everyone online has read at least one of his allmusic reviews

  • @diabeetus_9837
    @diabeetus_9837 20 дней назад +111

    J. Cole not in the Top 3? What gave it away? Was it the music? I bet it was the music, huh.

    • @zaygonslay
      @zaygonslay 20 дней назад +8

      The apology. He too weak to be inna Big 3 💀

    • @ross1779
      @ross1779 20 дней назад +2

      And the music 🤡😆

    • @Flat_top_king12
      @Flat_top_king12 20 дней назад +6

      Jcole been clowned on since b4 the apology. I like alot of his music but I never understood why people were always hyping him up as apart of the big 3

    • @erboch7124
      @erboch7124 20 дней назад +3

      These comments revisionist asf lmao

    • @kristiankolbjrnsrud4498
      @kristiankolbjrnsrud4498 20 дней назад +5

      The issue is that the apology made most of his bars for the last 10 years irrelevant. He's been talking so much shit about wanting people to test him, and when someone did, he made a mid disstrack where he was clearly lying about his opinion of Kendrick's music, and then apologised. In 48 hours he destroyed the image he spent over a decade building.

  • @PhinnOz
    @PhinnOz 20 дней назад

    the lack of no doubt/gwen stefani mention during the olivia rodrigo conversation is criminal

  • @JamsandTea
    @JamsandTea 20 дней назад

    Damn Tony you gotta invite us on sometime

  • @Batman_with_a_Mustache
    @Batman_with_a_Mustache 20 дней назад +19

    Its so Colever bros.

  • @ambreprivat
    @ambreprivat 20 дней назад +7

    Really cool to see two people reacting and arguing! I hope it isn't the last time

    • @nedisahonkey
      @nedisahonkey 20 дней назад +2

      Enjoy it while it lasts, Fantano is in his thot era. He'll have a new baddie in 2 weeks.

    • @NamelessInternaut
      @NamelessInternaut 20 дней назад +16

      ​@@nedisahonkey Question, do you actually go outside? Like, at all?

    • @nedisahonkey
      @nedisahonkey 20 дней назад

      @@NamelessInternaut I stay fucking. Fuck touching grass, I'm grabbing ass.

    • @facundozapata7364
      @facundozapata7364 19 дней назад +1

      ​@@NamelessInternautdude he was just joking. What happened to this channel? We used to clown Fantano in the comments all the time. With love obviously

  • @theabactor9561
    @theabactor9561 20 дней назад

    This was really fun

  • @marek9741
    @marek9741 20 дней назад

    Fantano describing Travis Scott's sound is so funny. "Psychedelic trap coughed out psyched out overdose"

  • @kareeb4106
    @kareeb4106 20 дней назад +82

    Melon at this point you can just tell us that y’all dating

    • @tristanfrench7198
      @tristanfrench7198 20 дней назад +12

      FRRRR

    • @ChadIs
      @ChadIs 20 дней назад +22

      I mean I'm happy for bro but Jesus why is she in like every other video and live stream

    • @zeedananwar1740
      @zeedananwar1740 20 дней назад +7

      @@ChadIs she is?

    • @felipenaran4152
      @felipenaran4152 20 дней назад +3

      @@tristanfrench7198isn’t melon married?

    • @ChadIs
      @ChadIs 20 дней назад +4

      @zeedananwar1740 she was in his live stream recently and I think they made a review or something together. Idk it's nothing against her but I subbed to Fantano so I get kinds annoyed when he starts shoving guests into his videos when he's a music critic. I don't care about other people's opinion I subscribed for his specifically

  • @officialcels
    @officialcels 20 дней назад +7

    Fantano done met his twin flame. Nice.

  • @culturecode01
    @culturecode01 20 дней назад

    Been a while since the "let's argue" segment

  • @savanabp
    @savanabp 20 дней назад

    Was waiting for someone to say this

  • @willfahlman9033
    @willfahlman9033 20 дней назад +145

    J Cole? More like J Not Cool

    • @WickedHill
      @WickedHill 20 дней назад +21

      This might be a homeschooled joke lmao

    • @gulermo
      @gulermo 20 дней назад +7

      damn he ain't never coming back from this one

    • @ItzJuanG
      @ItzJuanG 20 дней назад +8

      This is going too far man...

    • @ac-kk9er
      @ac-kk9er 20 дней назад +7

      Yo bro, you got him good there, he gonna apologize soon

    • @damonmeier3652
      @damonmeier3652 20 дней назад +1

      @@ac-kk9er😂

  • @deadbeatdevil1586
    @deadbeatdevil1586 20 дней назад +4

    i've really liked epotty seeing on the channel recently, hoping she'll stick around. good shit, bald man.

  • @kevin4680
    @kevin4680 20 дней назад

    I thought this was going to be let's debate, you agreed on everything.

  • @baddonkeyworld7254
    @baddonkeyworld7254 20 дней назад +1

    Good editing

  • @kshurnsb1
    @kshurnsb1 20 дней назад +10

    we really doin this right before he drops the fall off which is supposed to be his peak

  • @QPC321
    @QPC321 20 дней назад +6

    The Rizzler Drop

  • @Summonergeek
    @Summonergeek 19 дней назад

    Your channel makes me listen to more music.

  • @visuallotus8184
    @visuallotus8184 6 дней назад

    Great guest. Would love more

  • @asher2102
    @asher2102 20 дней назад +31

    saying Cole deserves to get booted out of the big 3 but drake who hasn’t had a good album since 2015 belongs in the big 3 is just hilarious

    • @Kinggenton
      @Kinggenton 20 дней назад

      n. the disresct to put rocky........... all because of an apology! cause cole respects a nigga

    • @thatguyzayy3362
      @thatguyzayy3362 20 дней назад +15

      Drake has been the most popular rapper since 2010 I think he deserves to be on their lil bro

    • @chiky1070
      @chiky1070 20 дней назад +10

      Arguments can be made against Drake AND Cole. Kendrick was right, there is no big 3, just big me

    • @Kinggenton
      @Kinggenton 20 дней назад +6

      @@chiky1070 WRONG !!!!
      There is only BIG CAL

    • @Flat_top_king12
      @Flat_top_king12 20 дней назад

      Well the problem is It comes down to more than just technical skill. I think most people who aren't drake stans would admit cole and kendrick are more technically skilled but Drake has the popularity, the persona, and the dominance to make up for it.

  • @snkelol
    @snkelol 20 дней назад +5

    i hope you guys keep collaborating in the future! you guys bounce off each other so well.

  • @_cosmix_
    @_cosmix_ 20 дней назад

    bro really liked that Civerous record🗣

  • @dadyvypa
    @dadyvypa 18 дней назад

    He is like RICK from Rick and Morty😂😂😂. The crazy rant😂

  • @jamesm3828
    @jamesm3828 20 дней назад +6

    J Cole isn't in the big 3 and Future is boring. Also Olivia Rodrigo its decent but generally sounds extremely derivative of other bands, leading to the feeling of inauthenticity.

  • @cameronmendez6483
    @cameronmendez6483 20 дней назад +63

    Olivia Rodrigo is more interesting than Billie Eilish to me right now.

    • @ScandalousUser
      @ScandalousUser 20 дней назад +5

      Low bar

    • @ItachiUchiha-sh6of
      @ItachiUchiha-sh6of 20 дней назад +6

      Low-key I feel the opposite. While I enjoy both of there music a lot I feel like Billie's music is more unique and varied than Olivia.
      Even just looking at the last 2 albums of each of them. Imo Billie feels like a metamophasis. While Olivia's feels like an evolution. If that makes sense 😅

  • @Able406
    @Able406 14 дней назад +6

    Chat, are they fuckin?

  • @devaronhlavinka4541
    @devaronhlavinka4541 20 дней назад +2

    I hope you have epotty on again, she's great.

  • @desmondmyers
    @desmondmyers 20 дней назад +3

    That AI comment…smh what are we doing folks? if this person is using the word “sound royalties” (not a thing) then I’m sure they’re totally an expert and have really thought through the implications of what they’re saying.