The U.S. Heavy Rockets & Missiles of the Vietnam War
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- Опубликовано: 5 июн 2024
- High mobility systems demonstrated with operational overviews of the Pershing & Sergeant (nuclear capable), the Honest John MGR-1B (M50) 762mm, and the (M510) Little John 318mm MGR-3A (12:46).
I was a sergeant missel crewman back in 1973, we fired our 1st . one at Whitesands New Mexico for our operational readyness test before deploying overseas. 3rd of the 81st field artillery out of Fort Sill
Back when the Army trusted sergeants and privates with nuclear ballistic missiles.
Yes sir, that was before the Pentagon wanted to send pregnant women to the line
More trustworthy than drunk assed rear area officers,
@@leewood331 No sympathy for REMFs no matter the rank.
@Magnus Arthur
If you have to hack your girlfriends Instagram account then you have bigger problems than advertising some program that you probably get a kickback on
The Army had Nuclear Artillery rounds till in the 1990’s 155mm fired from M109 howitzer.
I was a radio/teletype operator in the Army back in 1962, and we had to fire either the honest john, or the little john missile every Saturday morning for a training exercise. The whole operation took about 4 hours. We usually was finished by about noon. We were all really glad to get it over with, because that meant we were off until Monday morning.....God, that was a long time ago.
Were you a blanket remover?
History my friend.
@@tylerdurden629 lol...No I was a radio operator.
That's interesting, there are people in the comments here saying they were in Vietnam and that there were no honest johns there. I happened to believe you though, sir.
@@therocinante3443 , I never said that I was in Viet Nam...I wasn't...I was deployed to Korea for 13 months, and had came back to the states. In 1962 I was stationed at Fort Sill, Oklahoma. That's where we fired the Honest John, and Little John missiles . We fired them in training exercises. I couldn't tell you if they had them in Viet Nam or not.
I sleep well at night thanks to fellas like this.
I allow myself one 'medium' video to watch per night and i was scrolling aimlessly through videos and I picked this
How many ‘large’ videos per night?
I was in the 5th of the 77th Field Artillery. It was a Sergeant missile unit based outside of Wiesbaden in early 1973. In the summer, we changed to the 1st of the 333rd and became the first Lance unit in all of Europe.
Nice video showing powerful and exactly aiming to wards enemies positions of rocket and missiles
Never heard of this before. Pretty neat!
I had one “Honest John” in my military compound in Italy, in 1984 :)
Pretty awesome. Thanks for your service. I don’t know why nobody else has said anything yet.
I was born that year. Life is weird man.
Where in italy? Mantua?
@@rebelbiker9956 Portogruaro, near Venice, was in display, not operative, was discontinued many years before, but the truck was in the structure.
@@herik63 oh I see, I am from Mantua, we have e 4th Missili, anti aircraft SAM
When I attended US Army AIT at Fort Sill in 1979 I was told ONE time.....
" Sharks have FINS........Missiles have Control Surfaces "
Thanks for this 👍
I was in an "Honest John" rocket unit in Ft. Hood in the '60's.
I don't think a video can convey the experience of one of those things going off.
They actually had VIP's in lawn chairs 50 feet away to bask in the experience.
It's all over pretty quickly, the loudest WHUMP! you have ever heard and it's a tiny dot in the distance, blink you missed it.
Then you have to repaint the launch truck, LOL!
hahaha, That's kind of a catch 22.. You want to see it go, but don't want to paint the truck!
back in the days, nuclear war was a piece of handwork.
2:37 Rick Moranis watching and getting info for his future shrinking ray
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Now I see him 😄
OMG for real
I have learned that if the military tells you about it that means they already have something better
Obviously bruh this shit is fucking 50 years old
That camouflage was dope
"We need artillery support now!"
"hold on lemme tighten this screw up real quick"
missiles are not run by ground forces but air force....
@@adnansulejmanovic6254 You did see the big “US Army” sticker on the side of those things right?
NONE of these weapons were ever deployed to Vietnam. They were Vietnam Era weapons, but not Vietnam Weapons.
Agreed, had the same thought.
@Yomangamer an ignorant comment. You sound young
@@mattdownes6361 bomb the usa...mada fakas war mongers
@Yomangamer layman talking shit lmao
@Yomangamer Dude, you're 30 which is the new 12.
From a former (21G20), Pershing crew member of the 3/9th FA and 3/84 FA Pershing units. "Hooray for Pershing 1A and Pershing II". - "We Gave Peace A Chance".
I retired as Patriot, this looks like the march order, emplacement and reload drills we used to do.
@biggy biggy a public comment from a private page, a coward indeed🤣🤣🤣
Very interesting.
Okay boys pack it up they decided not to fire it, they drove a 105 howitzer close enough to take care of the problem for us.😂
My dad was in the 30th ABA. He was a SPEC-4 stationed in Okinawa. He told me he was responsible for launching Nike and Hawk missiles during the Vietnam war.
I did that job with the little John. In the late 60s that’s what I went in to be was a field artillery and rocketry man. I went to training and then they came around and assigned me to the army security agency. In the ASA I was an O5k
Still fascinating technology. Especially when you look on what had to be done by mechanical instruments with some electronics support and what knowledge and skills the operators had to have in order to put it into an action or even more - to do repair is something did not work properly.
Agreed. This is analog systems I'm pretty sure. The computer is very very early digital, if it is digital lol. I'm guessing it's analog but I'm no expert.
The 1970s brought in the age of the digital computer I think
All this stuff looks so primitive now
My unit in Germany the 210th field artillery had two Honest John missile units but they were done away with in the 1971.
My unit (attached), 1974, 56 Field Artillery Brigade, had Pershings (each had 15 KT warhead), and they were parked outside my bedroon window.
210th is in Korea mow
@2:36 "Mommy said I could play army man!"
Looks like Rick Moranis in Ghostbusters
Super amazingly engineering of man.
These missiles may have been used during the Vietnamese war years, but I don't believe they were ever used in Vietnam to my knowledge. If anyone has specific knowledge about any of these weapons used in Vietnam, I sure wish you can tell us about the incident, please.
13thBear Can't say that I have either. The possible exception may be the deployment of SAM systems to defend major bases like Da Nang, Cam Rahn Bay, Bien Hoa, etc.
I put my missile in a Vietnamese girl and caught crabs.
They were to be used against waves of Russian tanks in a hypothetical European offensive.
Eat U Raw
Yeah man, just like how I spoke to a France man before buying a beer from a Germany bartender, while asking a young Mexico lad for a light.
Dat dude lol
Damn the war is over by the time one was fired.
wekker090 lol
"Some assembly required". Lol!
wekker090 lol ikr
Considering it was nuclear the war would be over after it was fired for sure
lol
In 1966 I went to Ft. Sill in OK with a group of other boys from the downtown San Antonio YMCA. We saw an Army firepower demonstration. Among other things they fired off an Honest John missile. Pretty wild. I wonder if they still do those demos?
Nice Film!!!
Little known fact, the little john rocket was also referred to "the Sit n' Spin".
In the British army we called it "Shoot and Scoot".
Well boys we fired the missile... looks like we are out of service for a week until the next missile arrives in country...
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No kidding… and how about that 30-minute deployment time - AFTER you get where you’re going! 13+ troops per shot? Cripes.
(This from an ignorant, non-military viewer.)
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Thank - you .
The most anticlimactic job in the Army. All the driving, setting up, maintaining, and firing the missile and then it's "OK boys, let's pack it in and go home!"
It wouldn’t be that anti-climactic if it had a nuke strapped to it. That’s why most of these these were built, as tactical nukes. Thank god they were never used for that reason.
All the enemies have to do is destroy one of the four vehicles and the missile is a DOA.
Yeah, but seeing as they were usually one hundred miles behind friendly lines....Good Luck with that.
@@brianfoley4328 drones have changed the game now.
Jesus. My Dad fought on Guadalcanal & New Georgia. What came after made us all paranoid, fatalistic, and certain the world would be destroyed in our lifetimes.
McGregor firing range Ft. Bliss TX and White Sands Missile Range NM were training and test sites. Lots of Nike and Hawk variants as well. Mainly a Cold/Hot war tactical deterrent along Iron Curtain and N. Korea. Used to watch numerous rocket and missile tests with Raytheon contractors and Pentagon reps. Picnic at the dunes afterward or head out to hunt Quail and Dove at McGregor, just had to dodge snakes and unexploded ordinance.
Good job
I was trained on the Honest John Rocket at Fort Sill in 1969. And they were not used in Viet Nam.
I doubt any of these were used in Vietnam
These missiles and rockets were mainly for Europe
When I was in Nha Trang during the Vietnam War, the US Army deployed a Nike Missile system to protect the Nha Trang Airbase and military units nearby. But when the US military realized that North Vietnam was not capable of flying into South Vietnam for airborne bombing raids, the Nike Missile system was quickly packed up and sent back the stateside duty assignments to protect USA cities and military installations.
Thats interesting, thanks for telling!
In addition, I believe that a battery or two of MIM-23 HAWKS were deployed to DaNang in 1965.
sir, the North could but chose not to
if you read the document about the undercover communist spies among the Saigon Regime ranks, you will see there were a lot of South pilots
they basically could if there were order or they went rogue
in fact in the Fall of Saigon, on 8 April, a South Vietnamese pilot and communist, Nguyễn Thành Trung, bombed the Independence Palace and then flew to a PAVN-controlled airstrip
Your are mentally affected.
Awesome 👍
I was a Pershing Missile Crewman from 1977 to 1991. We gave Peace a chance.
If one of those vehicles broke down, that system wouldn’t work
That's why they are single purpose units, that way if one transporter for example breaks down you can easily repair or replace it
The war would have been lost or won during the time the missile is prepared for launching.
This is slowed down for the video
These things could be up and gone in 15 min or less
Lost then, I guess.
XD
I was getting kinda horny watching the missel take off.
@@FP194 it's obsolete
Cool I find this interesting
I love the speaker , he is the same guy with goofy from WB old cartoon right?
Lil wayne rocket production in progress now
Guided by crunk guidence system
Look at all that GERMAN technology.
ozarkprepper1 Designed and produced by German paperclip science!
russian i guess?
Actually USA developed the very first liquid fuelled rocket so actually germany copied the USA lol
@@sethlance8009 wasnt the v1 the first guided?
Looked for it, and the development for the first us guided missile startet in 46
8:00 the colors of the rockets are changing
Cool
The fact is that USA has a wide range of weapons , but they are not showing it to anyone , and its a fact , they first brought the first radio jamming techniques , for radioactive deconsulation , so you can think how advanced they are .
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All of these systems have been long gone for at least 30 years.
Lol and talban defeat usa at last..the most advance technology loos against talban ..ALLAH ho AKBAR
@@paladin0654 they r old and obsolete
@@wallpaperwalaayexpointerio3414 Piss off asshole.
Third reich's V2 rockets' technology maybe a little advanced ones these are.
And, you ignorant wehraboo, the Krauts got the technology from Robert Goddard who was firing near Roswell in the Thirties
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@@colbeausabre8842 so what, does my comment express that that technology was invented by third reich? Also, pls be careful what you say, no need 2 b unnecessary some kind of nationalist or whatever ideological person. Thnx 4 yr info btw.
Big difference between solid and liquid fuel propellant . That little missile is close to 1/2 A megaton yield. After 5 minutes of flight P1A they have hit a target barge 200 miles off the cape out in the Atlantic.
@@colbeausabre8842 this has to do with GNC you did not have it it went into outer space
Were these used in Vietnam? I’ve never seen any images of them being used in that war
I doubt any of these were used in Vietnam these were probably mainly for Europe during the cold war
very practical
Only problem, none of these missiles were ever used in Vietnam. They stayed Stateside or were in Germany or Korea.
Poor Europe.
Seems like a lot of equipment, a lot of specific setups and a lot of manpower for a relatively weak and one-off (aside from nuclear) support system. To me it just doesn't really make sense to dedicate so much to it. And after firing, then what? Would be more meaningful to put those men and materials towards more traditional mortar and artillery. With these rocket systems being more specialized towards certain situations.
Also a shame he last system footage gets cut off a bit. It looked more useful.
yeah,meanwhile russians improved this system, and today, one of these pieces of artillery took out a stealth plane over former iugoslavia.
today, it's basically one big truck, with sensors, that can have 1 intercontinental ballistic missile, or more smaller ones. it's basically a multi purpose portable rocket silo.
US doctrine at the time was more concerned with the Soviet threat. These systems were designed to be used in 'deep battle' striking enemy forming up points, transport nexuses etc etc to disrupt the enemy from as far back into his own lines as possible.
it'sMe TheHerpes the system you describe was a dedicated air defense SAM system, not a theater ballistic missile shown in the video. That’s like comparing a wrench vs a hammer for which can tighten a bolt, it’s not a fair comparison
I see in one of the videos the soldiers fired the First Sergeant.
Democracy rockets. There's nothing to fear! We Vietnamese will defeat all of our enemies
There's examples of all of these at the Field Artillery Museum in Fort Sill Oklahoma..pretty sure that's where this was filmed..
All that for just one BOOM!
It was nuclear capable, so yes, boom.
Military Industrial Complex, new models on display in 1965.
Damn the military has came a long way since then !!!
V2 to these - less than 30 years. These to now - over 50 years.
What helicopter was that, with the two pods and the clamshell doors?
That was the CH-37 Mojave, one of the first American military heavy-lift helicopters and the largest Western helicopter at the time of its introduction. The pods each contain a Pratt & Whitney R2800 Double Wasp radial engine, the premier American engine of its type during WWII, as well as the retractable landing gear, which was new to helicopters at the time. The CH-37 was used for airlifting heavy loads, especially downed aircraft recovery, in VietNam and was succeeded by the CH-53.
@@Ms.Strahl Piston engines? Men had balls in those days.
@@arlingtonhynes Well, early on, airplane piston engines were the only choice and remained more reliable up until the introduction of turboshaft engines on the HU-1 "Huey". Modern aircraft piston engines are still used today for inexpensive lightweight helicopters.
@@Ms.Strahl As a toddler I was scared nigh-shitless of that bulging-ugly MF; painting cartoon eyes on those pods hardly made a difference: Thing is still gong-ugly today.
The roundness of the pods covered Radial engines! It was all so iron-age back then, right down to the low-saturation green paint and the lack of chammies. Also, we had collectively forgotten about losing any war; we were still cherries in our own minds, naive, w/ WW2 experience and opinion suppressed, and a 'youth culture' emerging.
@@jamesbugbee6812 Well, I have a bit of a fondness for the odd-looking aircraft developed in the 1930's-1950's, especially the experimental ones. I suppose seeing them a lot in fiction where the creators were looking for designs that stood out may have had something to do with that, but also I just like the "air of whimsy", for lack of a better term, not that I'll deny that they're quite unseemly! I also prefer Drab Olive Green to the point of choosing models both physical and digital painted in it, especially over Desert Tan with certain theater-appropriate exceptions, but that's all just a stylistic choice of nostalgia for a bygone era. Sadly, that same "naive righteous youth culture" is still pushed today by would-be autocrats who depend on demagoguery to keep their geopolitical maneuvering from being questioned by the populace.
*I’d just like to see the four mating bolts.* 😂
10:31 - the only compensation for can’t is can!
A cold and callous way of thought, but as one gazed upon the waxy like features of the white g.i. , the grayish pallid of the. black g. I. , both.dead, both of them torn apart by either the impact.of the AK round, or the destruction. bought about by a rpm, all that one would think was ' better him than me' I am a former grunt , years '66- 68. 4th infantry division, South Vietnam.
Anyone remember the first Pilot TV guided ROCKET/missile? I am trying to remember I'm not sure but I will say 1967. The TV let the pilot guide it right in a window.
German design first used in WW2...and it worked then, too.
This military might never win single war except in Hollywood movies
Nothing like watching a Spec 5 and E 6 starting WW3
The progression was good though
These are great great great grandfathers of the tomahawk :)
Tomahawk now is Great great grandfather for India's Bramhos which you should be knowing is the best right now.
@@SrinivasanKumar uhm no it's just a replica
@@SrinivasanKumar Delusion is normal.
This is a ballistic missile not a cruise missiles.
@@therocinante3443 lol he is an Indian hindu what else do u expect
Vintage War Rocketry.
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Did they weld the sections of the huge pipe sections to each other ? It doesn’t show any welding of the pipes ! ?
The Russians must've rolled on the floor , laughing when they saw these ancient V-2 Rocket copies. Compared to these , the Soviet FROG and SCUD missiles where light years ahead in the 1960's.
You should read up more on history. The Soviet FROG and SCUD were 1960s technology. The Honest John rocket shown in this video was deployed in the early 1950s.
Lol light years!
Ummmm NO
These are the same people whose casualty rates were 20 x that of ours in Afghanistan. Doesnt seem to have helped them much.
Not the Pershing.
One missile was managed to be launched before the entire war was over lol
Hhhhhhh...
I JUST HOPE THE US HAVE VERY BIG MISSLES JUST LIKE THE OLD DAYS WITH VERY MIGHTY WARHEADS
Heyyy man we got a clear back blast?
12:20 looked like it crashed off target into a totally unsuspecting hillside.
Yeah that didn’t look like 38km
lol, yeah, must have been a sidewinder! :D
It looks that way, but it was all for the show at Ft. Sill. Fired from a big live fire demonstration site, West to an impact area far out of sight. They sometimes improvised with a fuel drum explosion within sight....so the spectators would be impressed with a "splash".
@@hugofischer2709 Yes, the infamous airshow "bombing run" with fuel fireballs like a 1970's Japanese monster movie.
So, there are hillsides capable of suspecting something?
does papa john have anything to do with honest and lil john?
He uses solid rocket motor propellant, instead of the traditionally used oregano, in his pizza sauce recipe to achieve the crappy taste that is the hallmark and calling card of his restaurant chain and it's so called "pizza".
If we had used the Pershing - I on Hanoi, or better yet the port of Haiphong, the war would have been over . 400 kiloton nuclear warhead, about 20x the yield of the weapon used on Hiroshima.
What years?
15 infantry men to launch a rocket with a range of 1500 meters lol no wonder casualties were so hi
If enemies too many we can use it
None of these were used in the Vietnam War.
Mhm, Because they are kinda expensive and not as cheep as Katyusha Rockets, Which is still in service to today, From 1939 to now its still in service.
Same black & white rocket for all weapon systems
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look at all German technology 🇩🇪
USA development of the guided rocket was 20 years before Germany. As it was done by doctor Goddard in 1920
So Americans developed the first guided rocket. In the world
No it's american
War is war .....
The winner will be charcoal.
And the losser will be dust..
Các
Yes sir u say right the losser will be dust like USA, dust in vietnam & now in afghanistan🙄🙄
When your country wants the most expensive way possible to delete an objective with nuclear ordinance, oh and it needs to be done by the infantry with chopper portable artillery
Those artillery mos soldiers.
I never saw any of these when I was in. I suppose only a select few get within ten miles of these things when they're in the field.
d e austin: I was school-trained on the Pershing Missile when I was at Fort Sill in the early eighties. Then to Europe. We fired them live in Greece, once. Very interesting work.
Interesting that they say "Little John" was made to also carry a nuclear armament. Little John only has a range of 12 miles! Wondering who this crew would be that has to load and fire it?
Aussie2u Americans even have nuclear weapons with 3 miles range. This is not surprising..
They even had a nuclear bazooka, though common sense prevailed in the end and they never used it. they also had a nuclear shell (fired from a very large gun).
Christopher Webber to be fair, common sense has prevented any other country from using nuclear weapon to attack other countries.
(Other than the USA against Japan) - we can only hope that the situation continues that way, as it only takes the wrong kind of person to be in charge of such weapons for them to be used; the longer peace lasts the more likely people are to forget the horrible consequences of war or to discount ideas such as MAD or nuclear winter.
Christopher Webber like i said, "any other country.." I mean, it's usa, common sense isn't exactly their strong point. Don't forget that they used to drink radioactive water as a health drink..
Imagine being under air attack during the assembly of these missiles. By the time required to assemble the rockets an air attack would probably wipe the crew out.
That's what having aerospace supremacy is about.
Excelente documental
Unreal that these were all analog.
ни одна из этих ракет во вьетнаме не применялась низкая точность позволяла использовать их лиш сядерными зарядами
How do you communicate to the enemy that they need to hold still for fifteen minutes?
first of all you send over a Hercules to drop jellybeans and twinkies on the enemy so they will stay in the target zone while all this is going on...Don't you know anything!
It's a tactical missiles, they targeting a stationary objects or groups of enemy forces, not something mobile. Also, all similar weapon systems of that era was kinda like that. Development of advanced electronics made such systems much mobile, faster and easier to use. Modern guided tactical ground-to-ground missiles are based on mobile platforms, needs only 3-4 crew members to operate and can be deployed by few minutes.
@@russellking9762 dude, that cracked me up
Holy Inertial guidance system batman
Two vehicles are an early laptop and it's power pack.
I don't see the touch-paper. Who lights it?