OLDEST OAK tree in IRELAND Belvoir Forest Belfast
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- After some help in locating it from fellow RUclipsr Sparksone I have found maybe the oldest recorded oak tree still living in Ireland. It is in Belvoir Forest on the edge of Belfast and on the banks of the River Lagan.
Belvoir Forest is part of the former Belvoir demesne which was created in the early 18th century. It supports one of the largest concentrations of ancient trees in Northern Ireland and is home to the oldest known trees in Ireland. Tree ring studies reveal that some of the trees at Belvoir pre-date the demesne, with one tree stump dating as far back as 1642. Some trees may be older, as many of the older trees become hollow and unsuitable for tree-dating techniques.
For further information and verification etc go to link
www.ancient-tre...
and tree expert John White and the Woodland Trust.
Tree number 302
Tree record status Verified
Verified by Gregor Fulton
Verified on 15/05/2007 14:06
Original Recorder Katherine Owen
Grid reference J33666935
Date of survey 20 April 2007
Country Northern Ireland
County Down
Tree species Oak
Girth 8m 01cm
Height of girth 1m 10cm
Public accessibility Public - open access (e.g. public park)
Tree form Pollard
Standing or fallen Standing
Living status Alive
Location
Parkland
Veteran status Ancient tree
Tree fungi
Evidence ofTree invertebrates
Evidence of
Tree epiphytes
Fern
Lichen
Moss
Tree condition
Decaying wood in the crown
Hollowing trunk
Nice. Is it still alive?
Hi Anemone. I'm not sure. i haven't been along that path lately. I'll have to get back. Best wishes from the Belfast Castlereagh hills.
@@TomMcClean Thanks Tom. Be nice to think it was still alive. Best wishes from darkest Dorset.
Hi again Anemore. I always love to hear where folks are from so thanks for that. I remember being 15 all those years ago and spending the summer selling ice-cream on the esplanade out in a kiosk at the front of local magistrate Kings restaurant.
@@TomMcClean Me too. A spin-off of having a RUclips 'channel' is that I get to have nice conversations with people such as yourself from different parts of the world where things are a bit different than in Dorset. Good luck in all your endeavors.
Many thanks Anemone. That's right! I 'talk to folks from all over the word. Great fun!
From the perspective of the Norman mound there is or was a path along the top of far side of the adjacent 'deep' valley, is this that path? If so wow a lot of trees have gone from there since I was a kid. At that time the bottom of that 'deep' valley was riddled with Giant Hogweed
Sorry William we are quite a distance from the old Norman mound that is beside the main car park in Belvoir forest. This old oak and the others alongside are at the back of the community centre and theatre opposite the primary school. The hogweed is still there round the wee stream near the mound. Best wishes from Belfast Northern Ireland.
@@TomMcClean Cheers, that's probably good then, I thought something had happened to the forest. If memory serves me there was a Miss McClean at Belvoir Pk Primary along with Miss McClain or McClane, Mrs Walker, Mr Thompson, Mr Stevenson (HM) and Mrs Lea?cock in the 60's, I can't remember any names.
You have a good memory William. I don't know any of these folks. I taught RE up in the big school Newtownbreda HS from 1974 onwards for 30 years though. The forest suffered Dutch elm disease a number of years back. this had a devasstating effect many trees had to be cut down. It has made a slow but steady recovery to almost back to normal now. Best wishes
@@TomMcClean Cheers
Hi Tom , I can remember when this tree was surrounded by trees , we used to climb it as kids , cheers Billy Fletcher
+Xmanhoe F
Hey thanks for dropping in Billy and leaving your very interesting personal remembrance.
I taught a Billy Fletcher years ago. He was a decent chatty cheerful lad. Was that you?
+Tom McClean.. years ago I was taught RE by Tom.. he also was a chatty decent man lol.. yep it is I the one and only!
+Xmanhoe F
You have me smiling so bad my false teeth are threatening to fall out!
Good to hear from you Billy. I have a load of other Newtownbreda HS/Shaws Bridge/Edenderry/WW1 and WW2 remembrance videos up too. Tanya says that i've become obsessed by RUclips. 750 videos now up! lol
Are you still around Belvoir? Have you got a motorbike? I'm on a very rare, old dog, American import Honda 450cc Nighthawk. 0 to 60 in 5 minutes! lol
link ruclips.net/video/T3n6cVEpaI4/видео.html
Precious time is slippin' away as Van the Man sings. They were good times at NHS. Long gone. Tanya is still there in the new Breda Academy in school office as matron etc but it is not in any way the same. A bit of a disaster.
I see you are interested in tanks too. My 'ole mate Bob was a tank commander in Iraq.
Take care. Tom
+Tom McClean lol you made learning fun! yes still in Belvoir and a grandfather too! I have a Vespa and a Piaggio X8 . I came across you whilst looking for a video on Grey Point Fort ! lol love military history, Reg Killops would be proud lol, I am semi retired ish lol so if you fancy a coffee drop me an email with your number? billfletch65@googlemail.com . I have photographs of the big house @ Belvoir taken by my Dad before demolition!
+Xmanhoe F
Hey thanks young Billy. a grabda too! Amazing! i have 3 kids the 2 boys are not even dating anyone! And my daughter and boyfriend have no thoughts of marriage!
Hey 2 nice scooters there too!
I have a lot of WW1 and WW2 videos up. There is so much stuff around. I have videoed a lot of the gable wall commerative WW1 stuff. I've done vids on Blair Mayne and James Magennis ( only WW2 VC winner in N Ir ) Yer man at the Fort has some collection. Have you been to the Ulster rifles Museum near St anne's Cathedral or the Ulster Aviation society place at the Maze?
Yes I'm your man for a coffee/tea shops. I know them all.
It was such a shame the big house went.
Will e mail you.
Cheers Tom
Can someone save some acorns to grow trees for the future from this one? Also, somebody needs to take some decent photographs of it. it's beautiful in more ways than one.
I don't see why the acorns couldn't be saved Sheila. What a good idea! And agreed about the photos. Thanks for dropping by. Best wishes from Belfast
There was a very old 'historic' tree on a nearby college campus that had to be cut down after it was badly damaged. But someone decided it would be a good idea to save some seeds.
www.capitalgazette.com/news/annapolis/ph-ac-cn-liberty-tree-1019-20141019-story.html
I love touching an old tree and thinking of the history that has passed during their lives.
Thanks for the link sheila. I will check this out.
Looks like the tree was giving you the finger
Yep I hadn't noticed that! lol