AI vs Human: Who Will Win The Creative Clash? (ft.
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
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With the recent rise of generative systems like ChatGPT and Midjourney, artifical intelligence is changing the world around us. In this three-part series, Dagogo Altraide from @ColdFusion examines the impact of AI on the health, education and creative industries. Which industries will win, and which will lose in the AI revolution?
Watch Part 1 on Medicine: • The Truth About AI and...
Watch Part 2 on Education: • ChatGPT is Changing Cl...
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00:00 Intro
00:39 Overview of Latest AI Art Tools: Midjourney, RunwayML, Wonder Dynamics
02:47 How These Systems Work
03:49 AI Wins Prestigious Art Award
04:01 AI v Artist Legal Debate: Who Will Win?
04:10 Solutions for Human Artists
05:51 Artists View On AI: Jordan T. Mystic and Andrew Price
07:34 Conclusions
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If u wanna use AI, feed them with ur own copyrighted, pictures videos etc! AI it is no different from all the filters everyone uses nowadays! And before deciding the AI own the copyright (be sure it didn't used another person work) but on the contrary started from scratch.
Another incredibly well done video from ColdFusion! Hope we get more of these collabs.
Thanks mate, and appreciate the comment!
Great video again by coldfusion!
Mate, it is so cool that your contents is now recognised through having the ABC on board.
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As an illustrator, this video and comment section just makes me sad.
I've spent a full decade honing my craft and now it's being torn apart before my eyes and turned into a subscription based mobile app.
Nobody can make a living off of art anymore except for a couple of higher-ups at Microsoft; there is nothing to integrate into, there is nothing to adapt to. AI is a pure human replacement mechanism.
And it's even sadder to see how many people are willing to sacrifice others just to get a toy, either hoping or not knowing that it's only a matter of time before they're next.
Mark my words, AI is a tool for billionaires, to make sure that you never crawl out of the lowest financial class.
I mean, there are open source models - seems logical to conclude, IMO, that there is a way to level the field as opposed to just letting billionaires have all the benefits.
@@gondoravalon7540 ChatGPT costs Microsoft 700,000 dollars to run EVERY DAY (Google it). You will never be able to run a proper AI machine on your own device locally.
AND, even if you do, the billionaires will always out-spend you, and own the AI that will be leagues ahead of yours in every regard. There is no way to compete, and once the AI armies kick in, there might not even be a way to rebel.
Same with me, spent last 15 years at great personal cost to just finally be hitting my stride with illustration and AI comes along.... It sucks soo much, we missed the golden age of illustration, now high end digital illustration is generated with a few clicks it breaks my heart.
@@yingle6027 Stay strong! I’ve watched a lot of congress hearings and it looks like AI might soon become a legal mine-field that’s simply not worth it (it might get legislated into an early grave).
Another thing is the it’s not financially viable atm, and unless the AI bros figure out something, AI might implode on itself soon.
So it’s not all doom and gloom yet!
I've spent last 15 years (at great personal cost) to just finally be hitting my stride with digital illustration and AI comes along.... It sucks soo much, now high end digital illustration is generated with a few clicks it breaks my heart. I've missed the golden age of illustration and it makes me sad because that's all I've ever wanted to do since I was 5 years old!
nah man, people who used AI art got their engagement and statistics tanking hard
and people Avoid it because people actually can distinguish AI created stuff,
they even labeled those stuff as lazy.
therefore your content or product must be bad if you're taking shortcut like that
why? because there are no Art direction, no consistency, the art was used as it is without being modified further.
therefore it was easy for people to generalize all AI Artwork as a cheap AI generated stuff.
in youtube alone, there are thousands of videos that used AI Artworks, and they all look like each other,
you can't even distinguish what channel it was from the thumbnail alone.
and most of the time, that kind of AI Art was used by an Amateur or Bot channels.
therefore, when people see AI Generated Art, they'll automatically think of it as an Amateur or Bot channel,
and just ignore it.
here is the thing, i think you know this already but, illustration made by real person are kinda badass, ambitious and ground breaking.
because people always trying to do groundbreaking things all the time, and their efforts shows.
just look up at 2010-2020 Artstation or Deviantart Art, people are actually kinda crazy, how strong they are at that time.
if you actually compared that side by side, AI Art can't even hold a candle.
nowadays, people stop posting anything on Artstation. and actually Artstation was in decline
@@jensenraylight8011 I get what you're saying but in 10 years time ai art will probably be so good, humans will be irrelevant. I'm more concerned of the trend of AI taking our livelihoods.
@@yingle6027 don't worry about it, Everyone can use AI, even a Baby, it's that easy.
if everyone can use it, Artists could use it even better, you could took maximum advantage out of it.
you could even create your own datasets out of your own arts.
you could modify and improve the works of AI to be in line into yours, something that AI Bros could never do because of their lack of experience.
the fundamental skills always needed, the tools might change, but the skill is always with us
just keep this in mind, nobody, not even 10 years from now will be able to accidentally generate a Masterpiece Movie/Game just from pressing a button.
generator is just a generator to generate one Jpg, you can't call 1 single jpg a Movie or Games
how do i know? because i'm a software engineers
everything that could be achieved by pressing a button will be perceived as lazy and will be ignored, because people don't like a Generic overused things, regardless of the quality.
this is something that people never had expected, so take it into your mind.
i am having a similar experience as you. I've just started to get the hang of digital art after playig with it for a couple years. Now it feels like, whats the point..... feels the same way as the AI girlfriend type things..... makes me feel like, what even is the point in trying.... @@yingle6027
first off, that's ai generated text you are arguing with.
second this video mentioned how the annual photography award from Sony was given to AI so you don't have to wait 10 years
third, look at movies. practical effects are far and away better looking than CG. masters of their craft tend to bring a personal level of talent that isn't replicated. so while Bob B. Basic may accept a logo for his used car lot made by Joe Blow on an ai tool, discerning customers will value having a human to interpret feelings that come from the nuance of people interacting. it's not like AI can explain why they think the art that is requested is not the best choice because it's beginning to be cliché or in poor taste.
fourth, you can use AI to give you a frame that you can make your own. cut through the time it takes to make a rough outline concept, and then manipulate it as your own.
finally, there are some people who are thankful for a tool to make their own ideas become something that they previously would have gotten wildly frustrated about. trying and failing to produce what they imagine affects your mood for longer than when you are at the canvas. not to mention the amount of times I've smashed a canvas or put a hole through it, i imagine it's far more expensive with a tablet or computer.
more please
With the speed that OpenAI is moving to update Dall-E 2 you can continue to count on it remaining largely irrelevant for the time being.
It's sad because the current Dall-E 2 Experimental model is quite good. It can even do text fairly well. If and when they ever release Dall-E 2 Experimental version, or whatever they name it it should be one of the best models out there. Maybe it shall be called Dall-E 2.5? By then
It should have perfected text even.
The elephant in the room are the Open Source models which are catching up rather quickly to Midjourney, Dall-E 2 Experimental version and the rest. I fully expect the Open Source models to come out on top. They will be uncensored and free to use!
Why would anyone pay OpenAI 13¢ for 4 images while having to jump through their Censorship hoops for when they can do it for free? Or at worst a fraction of a penny?
Keep dragging your heels OpenAI while you get left behind. I'm all for it too.
If the StackOverflow AI can cite its sources, surely an image generator could as well...
They say that these AI models are a black box, very opaque. It's very hard to impossible to figure out how ChatGPT came up with the answer that it did. Or which images and their components how they all contributed to the end result.
Imagine the model may of drew upon 1,000 different images to get the tree just right, 100 for the blades of grass, 500 for the sky and clouds. 3,000 images to have great lighting. 10,000 images for the particular composition it chose to use etc.
All that would be extremely difficult to track. Then to cite all of that data as part of a returned image. All that Metadata would consume as much or more data than the image produced I bet.
Let's roundup my estimated number of images that contributed to the final result to 15,000 different images. Now how do you fairly split 3.5 ¢ up 15,000 different ways? How do you weigh which images contributed more, or less, to the final result?
That's not how these models work. They don't use references.
AI will not change anything. It is just a catalyst to make the rich even richer. Those who can't afford to own an AI of their own will serve those who does.
It's like $20 a month. An artist spends that much on paint. Adapt or die.
Have you even used an AI program?
With a few thousand dollars in hardware you can train/make your own small but useful AI. Many of the larger models have also been leaked. Training is becoming more efficient.
Silly comment, by a casual who doesn't use technology. It has already changed everything and won't stop. Wonderful times
This is such a bad take. On the contrary, this allows people to create things much faster (skipping years of schools) and for pennies.
Who else noticed that Dagogo used an AI-generated version of his voice for some of the lines?
I believe the move away from user replaceable batteries was purely a profit driven one
you just cant change the fact that theres many many people who hate AI art, once you use it on your market, expect being cancelled.
Unless you dont have any hardcore fans and you are basic af, you could ai anything and no one will care
ayyeee. thats awesome you feel that way.
I am here beside cold fusion.. don't know ABC science
Welcome 👋
Phones don't need to be as thin as they are. I get sore fingers because my smartphone is hard to hold and navigate. I think the manufacturers only cared about making the thinnest smartphone and completely forgot about usability.
phones need to be thin, Phone cases accessories, on the other hand can be thick,
once phones can be smaller and thinner, you can integrate it into your clothes, etc, everywhere making it more mobile
The only problem with Ai is ... well ... hands.
Human already won, by creating AI, plus AI does more of a patchwork job by using already existing arts... it's just far way too complicated. People using AI creation on dating websites. Copyright infringement. etc etc, instead of seriously discussing the situation, and set boundaries, rules and new global laws around it (sooner or later it will be everywhere), people are praising it and letting it spread without control!
I'm not worried at all for three reasons.
Firstly, the value of artists will rise with time.
Secondly, art is unlimited there is always room for everyone.
And thirdly, there will be tools to prove that this art was done by a human being In the future.
If you are an artist just keep moving forward
Not sure about that third point - at least in so far as the current tools having rather shaky accuracy rates AND that they can be used adversarially - that is, to make things more likely to not be detected correctly as "AI made."
Best thing to happen to art since the stick figure. Finally every human has the ability to express themselves with artistic ease.
Once everyone can excel in art no one's art or natural talent will be special anymore. I find that concerning.
@@marcomastenbroek3307
That's an extremely elitist stance. Art should be for the people by the people.
@@morpheus2573 I'm certainly not elitist. But imagine you have real talent, and people can't distinguish your art which you spent years perfecting from that of a five year old. Where's the actual creativity and satisfaction of creating something purely from your own mind?
@@marcomastenbroek3307 Now you're being agist. I've met 5 year olds with more talent and "wisdom" than a lot of so-called established artists. Mozart composed his first piece of music at age five; by age six, he had performed before two imperial courts. You shouldn't need a license or permission to create art.
@@morpheus2573 But you need talent to create real art. Sure there are talented five yearvolds with talent. You're just arguing for the sake of the argument. If you want to live in a communist world, with no one to look up to or personally excel in anything that's fine. I know that sounds a bit dramatic but life wouldn't be very satisfying I think without personal development, sense of achievement or a talent that sets you apart.
There are well established copyright protections and international treaties to protect original works. The program appeared to be unaware of these.
You need to do a little research about copyright law with respect to AI. There is nothing clear or established about it and it varies from country to country, as the presenter correctly layed out. AI art is not about making a direct copy of an existing artwork. That's called photocopying.
@@morpheus2573 I wasn't aware that modifying original works and republishing as your own, was now free of intellectual property protection world wide. Don't tell any of those musicians who have successfully litigated for many years due to the theft, morphing, and republication of their works. Their lawyers will be devastated with this news that you bring🤦
@@user-fed-yum Have you actually used any AI art programs?
ai does what any other artist is doing. it learns from other sources.
i yet have to see an artist that didnt stole, i mean took inspiration from someone elses work.
@@olaoluwaoyenuga8511 Considering all the litigation over songs sounding similar in terms of melody, I'm not sure that having the amount of "protections" (that benefit the corporations that lobbied for them) is a good thing.
The mechanism of AI generation is interesting, but I believe that the flood of AI-generated products will cause us to lose sight of the noble purpose of art itself, which is to glorify humanity, and will degenerate into a mere means of making money.
absolutely.
The purpose of art isn't to glorify humanity what the hell are you talking about?
@@dudenamedchris3325it is lol in a way to create and express
@@paulaumentado1588 That doesn't mean glorify.
@@dudenamedchris3325 it kinda does lol an example of that is berserk despite the struggle of guts the main character he still resists the temptations of evil to turn to a monster othe works glorify humanity in different ways as well while also questioning it
Wooo
8:00 "AI promotes democratization of skills" This take is so evil. With a computer and internet connection almost all skills that AI "democratize" are already disponible to learn on youtube, for free
I've already saved tens of thousands of dollars being able to generate the artwork I need with prompting, instead of going back and forward with a designer. Very, very happy!
make sure that you're not including any Artists name, no Art related stuff ever, unless you can proof the judge that
that Artwork contain zero stuff resembled the training data from a certain Artists.
which is like reconstruct the fruit from the blender
only generate a Realistic real life style image. this is one of the safest thing, but even then
who knows if the AI use data from a renown photographer for training
it would be a shame that you saved yourself tens of thousands of dollars, only to get yourself a Million dollar lawsuit.
the judge don't care what your justification and delusion that you're crafting,
if an AI can't function without the data that they stole, then you're automatically guilty
there are a reason why companies avoid AI generated stuff with a ten foot pole,
and there are also a lot of companies that redo their product again to remove all the AI generated stuff they had used.
@@jensenraylight8011 I'm well aware of the law and the use of ai artwork. Your concerns are unfounded.
@@bigpickles oh really, why don't you tell me how Aware you're? and how my concerns are unfounded?
nah man, that kind of argument isn't going to win you any discussion. this is not twitter where you can just sh*t talk with one sentence
give me the reasoning and proof,
and i'll even accept defeat if i find your proof reasonable
That means that a designer lost his job
@@dudenamedchris3325 or her job
It means that a portion of the population will be irrevocably tied to meaninglessness. Because meaning originates with self-expression.
We will see a very obvious (at least to one section of the population) rift between those in the perpetual darkness and those in the light.
What are you even saying with that vague nonsense?
I for one, do not think it means that, at all. No one will be "irrevocably tied to meaninglessness", that is an absurd statement to make. Everyone will be free to adapt, and human-made content will always have more value, no matter how good AI content gets.
great, except nowhere to be found is the fact that one small alignment error can wipe out humanity, e.g. in virus research or military application.
AI is a tool, its not different to a software like photoshop, it can't create art by itself, it can't start to work by itself, so the license holder should be both, entitled to profit from the work and liable for it.
Do you know the defintion of a tool? A tool helps you to create or change existing materials (In this case art) to suit the needs. A tool doesnt do things for you. You can just write prompts and the ai will spit out an image without you needing to lift a single finger. This is not a tool for me. Its just a shortcut for assholes to make easy coins with it, for almost no effort. This is ruining the bussines of actual artists who spend hours upon hours to create their art. Ask any non ai artist, what they think about it. Trust me there's almost no artist who approves of it.
The main issue I have with the Anti AI movement is, that nearly all of them somewhere assume that a certain style of art could be owned by someone and therefore stolen. That is plain nonsense. That was never the case in the entire art history. Every question of copyright and plagiarism is about the reproduction of someones specific motives NOT the style. You simply can not copyright an art style! But what freaks me out the most is, that a hell of a lot of those people seem to exactly know about that facts but claim that tech to steal something anyway. Just because they like to argue as if there would be somekind of alternative facts to that. 🤦♂
I remember the time when workers destroyed their machines, because the machines could do the same as they could faster and better.
It would be really idiotic to destroy the most revolutionary tool we have invented since the steam engine.
We will always have a place for intelligent, creative people to work. Actually, we never ever had such a workforce shortage as we have today. And if AI will take all the jobs - the better for us, because it will provide us with all the goods we could ever dream of! (Won't happen, don't worry.)
what the heck! i have made a career making shoes for horses, but now the world doesn't need me because bicycles and cars exist. wah wah wah
- _all luddites_
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