5 Awesome Rock Rides - Which Is Best For You?
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- 5 fantastic rock ride cymbals for your consideration - which ones are right for you?
Link to purchase the cymbals in this video:
Zildjian K Custom Hybrid Ride Cymbal 21"
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Paiste Signature Reflector Bell Ride Cymbal 22"
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Sabian HH Raw Bell Dry Ride Cymbal 21"
Available for purchase here: buydru.ms/12172
Meinl Cymbals Classics Custom Dark Ride 22”
Available for purchase here: buydru.ms/CC22DAR
Istanbul Agop Xist Brilliant Raw Ride Cymbal 22"
Available for purchase here: buydru.ms/XRWRB22
Link to purchase the drum set used in this video:
Canopus RFM 3pc Rock Drum Set Bitter Brown Oil
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Canopus 'The Maple' Snare Drum 14x8 Natural Oil w/ Cast Hoops
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The Paiste hands down.
Proud owner of the Paiste. Unbelievable cymbal.
It’s a toss up between the paiste and the k custom hybrid. I’d take both of them!
Playing PAISTE Signature Reflector Bell Ride 22" for more than 10 years already. Stunning cymbal!
the paiste has a savage bell.
I own the k hybrid. Depending on the stick it's a pretty versatile cymbal.!!! Love the bell on the paiste.
I always listen to this paiste signature... and I always fall in love....
I loved the Paiste! Seems like the best all-rounder, and the bell sounded great! Istanbul sounded great when just used as a ride in the traditional sense, and not used for crashing.
Paiste Bell with Zildjian body!!
Luiz Gustavo Schneider or with Sabian body. I like the slight trash.
I’m a Zildjian guy but that Paiste sounded awesome.
OMG! That Meinl! OMG! The Paiste! You know what? ALL of them had great sounds.
The Paiste and Meinl were excellent!
I've always been a Zildjian fanboy up until recently. Paiste always blows my mind in bright and cutting stuff
Ясен-красен что эстонцы лучше 🎉😂
I don't think you can go wrong with Paiste, Zildjian or Sabian, depending on the particular cymbal, for sure. Sabians are basically Zildjians as improved by dearly departed Robert Zildjian in the Canadian plant he received in the lawsuit against his brother. But, Sabian did their own thing, for sure too. Sabian is an anagram he and his wife figured out from their kids, Sally, Billy and Andy.
Meinl sounds very Heavy 👌🏻
Yes, that one surprised me, holds it own.
The Paiste signature was really nice
This segment is wicked important! I love that Paiste reflector the best. But please try the 22" Meinl soundcaster fusion, with the raw part on it a little. One of the best ride cymbals I EVER heard!!
The HH RBDR is my favorite. I also would recommend the AA version of the raw bell series.
They all sound good in their own way. I own about 12 Paiste, Sabian and Zildjian rides. I might sell 2-3 eventually. I find it helps to carry a few of your favorite cymbals for comparison in a cymbal bag with your desired sticks when checking out new or used ones in the store. Sometimes one that catches your ear in the store might be redundant to what you have already, or fall flat against what you have on the kit at home. I have bought probably 4-5 cymbals over the years I thought were nice or even great in the store, but just didn't quite measure up at home. Also, every cymbal is different. I have two 20" Zildjian flat top rides that sound very different, but both are super cool in their own way. I put those on two different kits as they fill the function(s) best for a given set up (the particular drum kit, the genres being played, their mix with other cymbals, suitability for live gigs or recording, etc.). For example, one flat top has a warm, gentle, compressed, low volume but distinct ping for recording soft passages in a song, while the other is brighter, louder, clearer, and more shimmery for live playing and has a more generic, classic ride tone (picked it up used for only $75 in excellent condition). It amazes me how two of the same Zildjian flat top 20" rides can sound so different, but both be useful depending upon the application, and their mix in the context of other cymbals on various kits.
I love my Paiste Powerslave bell ride! It sounds and look amazing!
1. Paiste
2. Meinl
3. Zildjian
4. Istanbul
5. Sabian
#1 Zildjian cuts bright, bell also bright, clear sticking. Not a good crash ride.
#2 Paiste cuts lower in tone, clear sticking bright bell. Not a good crash ride
#3 Meinl cuts lowest tonally, very clear sticking, bell low tonally. Could crash ride
#4 Sabian standard cut, sticking washy, brighter bridge, bell mid range. Much more of a crash ride
#5 Istanbul agop standard cut, pleasent sticking, bell blended in, mid range tone. Great crash ride
My humble opinions are based on your title. Best "Rock" ride cymbals. Everyone's ears and preferences will come into play here. However, how very lucky we are as drummer's to have a channel like DCP to provide us with video comparison's like this. Thank you guys so much from your fellow drumming community 🥁🤘
Jetty 1502 zildjian custom hybrid ride is much more of a crash ride than the Sabian raw bell dry is. The sabian with its heavy weight, flat profile, and smaller bell just doesn’t crash that well
All are stunningly beautiful.
The Paiste 2oo2 22" Ride is so good for This style.
Paiste & Meinl know their stuff how to make a good specific "Metal" tone cymbal.
Paiste is the Best! Awesome!!
I don't know about you but my favorite was that k custom hybrid
I own the Paiste Powerslave Bell ride. It's my favorite ride.
The 21 K Zildjian Hybrid has been my Go-To for 6 years and it always works, rock or Americana.
I'm a Sabian guy but that Zildjian K Custom hybrid!! I'm in love! Should of done the Sabian 21 AA rock ride.. perfect rock ride. Just ask Chad Smith and Ray Luzier...
I have that one in 22. It is great.
Funny thing, I'm a Zildjian guy but I like the Sabian the best! Lol I may have to listen again :-)
I got the 22" and it's awesome !
I think Jay from Tesseract and Blake from Between the Buried and Me play the HH RBDR.
Naw, sabian aax metal ride is their best, but truth be known Sabian really needs to beef up their powerful rides, they don't have the powerful bells like Zildjian does, or paiste does for that matter. That's why the serious metal players use Paiste, they are the best tools for that job. My heart is with Sabian, I started using them when they first came out, so they will always be MY 💖 brand, but I'm not in denial.
Paiste for sure. All of them sounded great (Meinl close second) but the Paiste had articulate sticking action, piercing bell and a beautiful ambient crash.
The Paiste and Meinl were fire...and there was something about the Istanbul...
Yea it was a little different in a good way.
@@NinthDensity I think it would sound good in a mix.
The Zildjian has a beautiful high frequency that appears about 3/4 into the full hit. None of the other's have it. It's such a sweet sound.
I think the Zildjian was hands down the best at crashing. It was way louder and brighter than what I'd expect from a K series cymbal, which tend to be darker and lower volume. But it *IS* a K _Custom_ , which means it's going to be experimental and different.
I thought the Istanbul had the most complex sound as a pure ride cymbal, and it's crash sound was _OK_ . But it's bell sound was kinda odd. Its bell sounds kinda like an old school alarm clock! Maybe the Istanbul isnt ideal for pure rock music(??), but good for jazz....
The Paiste was nice, and would work well as a rock ride. I thought the Sabian HH raw bell one was equally nice.
The Meinl ride doesn't have a very good crash capacity, but was adequate at riding.. it's bell sound was good.
@@HighlanderNorth1 Yes, I heard that good analysis, ride cymbals are all different, even within the same exact model sometimes. For me they are the real ear candy on a drum set. I am always looking for cool ones that fill a niche for me.
I loved Istanbul the most
Seems odd the picked several dark rides for rock. Usually people use bright cymbals for rock. Not saying it won’t work but the darker lines tend to have less volume and don’t cut through like bright one. Just an observation.
i have the Paiste reflector bell ride, and yes, its the best! :D
I still have my Zildjian 22" Light Power Z ride, but I always wanted the Paiste Signature ride. What a sweet-sounding cymbal.
I really liked the Zildjian K Custom Hybrid,..probably my favorite of the bunch. Then a toss up between the Paiste and the Meinl for #2,...and the Istanbul which had the most unique tone of the bunch.
Good video, nice to see someone doing Rock Rides. Another KILLER Rock/Hard-Rock/Metal ride to check out is the Zildjian A Custom Rezo Ride... Very articulate and defined ping that's very cutting without being offensive. It's VERY clean and musical, and blends well with out overpowering. Absolute ear candy. check it out if you can find one, I've seen them for cheap because I don't think people know what they have
I own the K hybrid 21 and the Sabian Hh raw bell dry ride. The k hybrid is more open and loud, the bell sound is clearing and cats. The Sabian is more mellow but as a beautiful sound. The bell on the Paste is superb.
Should try this again with the 20” Meinl CCD Heavy Ride. Heavier and with a much bigger bell.
My favorite rock ride is the Meinl serpents ride. My favorite all around ride of all time is the Meinl polyphonic ride but if you want a loud rock ride with a crazy loud bell with great stick definition and still have crashability the serpents ride is where it’s at! The polyphonic ride has a raw bell but it’s still defined and bright and the crashability is the best ever on that ride.
The K Custom Hybrid for sure. The most versatile out of all of them. 3 distinct playing surfaces, has great wash sound, and just looks beautiful!
I cant believe how well the meinl dark ride sounds, with such a huge hammer pattern. Now you could also add the Zildjian S dark ride, if it weren't sold in a pack!
Meinl classic dark sounds best to my ear. 🤘 you guys rock!🥁🥁
Loving that snare. 🙂
It's quickly becoming one of our new favorites at the shop. It has everything.
Observation #1:
Years ago I was the first drummer in the local rock and punk scene to buy a K Custom ride. The bell and the ping were great, but the "dinner plate" wash kept it from being perfect. Looks like Zildjian finally solved that dilemma. And it only took 30+ years!
Observation #2:
Is there any doubt from the retailer and peanut gallery that the CCD's are the greatest bargain in all of cymbal manufacturing right now? It's a good thing Meinl is hitting on these because someone in Germany needs to throw them back on to Mr. Rodgers Trolley OUT of the Land of Make Believe where you price your Euro-style cymbals at the same price point as the 2002's, and expect to win in the marketplace.
I am a zildjian user and fan through and through, but the Paiste sounds amazing, and what a great bell.
I closed my eyes and listened the Sabian was my favourite and I am a zildjian guy
I always do the same, regardless of what they are comparing, kits, heads or cymbals. It's the only way to truly be unbiased in your opinion. 🥁🤘⚡⚡
Im a Paiste guy, but the Sabian was the best of this bunch.
Zildjian K Custom Hybrid sounds not too dark yet cuts
My 21” KCH isn’t really dark at all. It has a nice low shimmer when crashed lightly. Mine is over 3000 grams and it still crashes well. It cuts like a MF with that amazing bell.
That’s why they made it, it’s a balance between the great articulation and cut of bright crashes, and the great dark bell sound you get from the classic dark K cymbals
I have a Paiste Precision 20" Heavy Ride that just kills. I do like that Paiste Signature.The Classic Meinl sounded nice too, though Dark.
Paiste, of course. Try the 20 duo ride.
I think most will be drawn to the Paiste, however, that distinct tone of their alloy and design does not blend well with other manufacturers. I don't like to mix brands but it is possible to do so with most i.e. Zildjian, Sabian, Meinl etc. Given that, I recommend and own the K hybrid. At that, the particular one I possess is heavier that the norm so it is undisputedly my go to "Rock Ride"! Looking and sounding good Tony!
….up until the last second that is lol!
@@JanPatrickLucas the stress has finally beaten him. 😔
@@adamfrost8417 I think so ha ha.
I’m a Sabian guy but I should say that PA Meinl and Istambul are amazing!!!! I think HH ride you used for comparison is not the correct one... I would have chosen AAX 21” Raw bell dry ride or AAX 20” X-Plosion ride... regards from Mexico!!!
Hey bro he did lol he's playing the 21 hh ride not HHX RIDE LOL
Sall good honest mistake lol
That Paiste though 🙌🏻🙌🏻
I know right? I'm a Sabian guy through and through, but that Paiste ride is the tits.
OMG, loving that first Zildjian :)
The most versatile one (disregarding crashability) is the Sabían HH Raw Bell Dry Ride, you could play almost anything with that ride
Imo having stick definition with a nice bell along with crashability is one of main points of a ride being versatile. But that’s just me and what I look for. It’s not versatile to me if it doesn’t have crashability for what I need a ride for. Imo the meinl polyphonic ride is the most versatile ride I’ve ever played but that Sabian one is pretty nice too
I own a 20 k custom
IT’s everything
Great bell. Stick articulation. Wash crash.
Can sound mellow if played right.
After crash stick articulation comes right back.
Paiste and Meinl ❤️
My top 2 choices for sure!!!
Same here
I like the sound of the Istanbul, but my favorite bell was the Zildjian.
All great choices. I use a Paiste 21” signature full ride. It also rocks
That is my all-time favorite ride!
I've got the 22'' version.. love it! Great balance with the wash and cut.
As a life long (and very happy) Sabian player, I have to say that the Paiste and Meinl rides sounded the best for this particular application to me. Not that the other offerings were bad, but the sound I would want for solid rock playing was exemplified in both of those cymbals. I have to say I am becoming more and more intrigued by Meinl cymbals in general.
😕 I've had a somewhat negative opinion of Sabian cymbals, because of the _extreme_ dislike I had for the very 1st crash cymbal I ever owned. It was a Sabian B8 of roughly 18" that came with my first drum set(an old worn out kit that I bought in 1994 for $200 with stands and 3 newer cymbals).
The 14" Paiste hi hats included with that set were very thick and clanky, but they were acceptable. However, the Sabian B8 crash sounded so bad that I cringed every time I hit it. I tried to avoid using a crash because of how bad that cymbal sounded!
About 2-3 months later, I bought a new Pearl Export series 5 piece set, but used up all my extra money on it. So, again, I was stuck with those same cymbals. Then I moved in 1995, and wasn't able to play drums where I moved to, so I sold the set. It wasn't til 2004 that I got a new Sonor kit, with an entry level Zildjian cymbal set(ZHT or ZBT, I don't recall which). All of them sounded immensely better than that Sabian B8 crash.
Since then I've heard quite a few Sabian cymbals I like, mostly HHX. The Sabian HH ride ^here sounds pretty nice.
I couldn't agree more.
I love zildjian grew up on em, but paiste has it going on with there hi hats and rides.
Love that Paiste! But that snare is unreal!! Oh my gosh!!!
I hope you are happy! Now I need one of those too!
Another great video! What's missing (and it's important) is the gram weights of all of these. Gram weight helps you identify that "sweet spot" you like in a cymbal. And, with some manufacturers, certain models can have quite a bit of gram weight difference (within the same model), thus making them sound different from cymbal to cymbal.
Good point.
When I buy a ride cymbal online if I can’t verify the weight I simply won’t buy it. There enough examples here on YT that if you find a sound file of a cymbal within 20 grams they should sound very similar.
I think the Paiste 2002 Heavy Ride 20' would be great choice too.
Paiste all day long. I prefer Paiste Signature Heavy Dry Ride--great for rock.
That is a very sweet K Custom Hybrid Ride. I like the stick sound of the Istanbul Agop Raw Ride, but the bell just doesn't do it for me; too sedate and "blendy."
Thanks DCP for these awesome comparison videos, it's very helpful to hear gear compared directly to other gear in the same space, recorded the same way.
We need a top 10 METAL RIDE video, some of these could do it, but we need that Xtra bell that hurts a bit and piercing projection!
Neal Babbitt YES
@@brodrick406 I use a paiste dimensions 22" Power bell ride, it definitely does what I need, Paiste leads the way in this category and has numerous rides to choose from in all price ranges. I've been meaning to acquire a paiste alpha metal ride, which is an excellent sounding cymbal and can be found used often at a steal under $100!
Paiste dry heavy or blue bell
They all sound pretty good.
1 Zildjian
1 Paiste
3 Istanbul
4......
5.......
That Paiste sounds sweeeet! the Zildjian isn´t bad either. Damn! just saw the price of the Paiste 😞 Didin´t know it´s Nicko Mc Brain´s ride
OMG! That Zildjian K Custom Hybrid!!
They all sound great. Be happy to have any of these cymbals.
I scored a 22" AA Rock Ride for $100 au. I love it !
Thanks DCP 👍
Love how that Meinl sounds.
The bell on that zildjian 👍
The K Custom Hybrid & the Sabian AA sound great!
I like the Meinl and the Paiste for the definition
I just ordered the Paiste Bell Ride, to me its just the perfect sound, but I have to admit the Meinl sounds really good to me too. If I wasn't so in love with Paiste, I would probably go Meinl.
Raw bell dry ride is more than just a rock ride. I own it and to me it's very versatile
Call me crazy but the bell on the meinl was fucking epic
I think I like the Istanbul the best, and the Meinl the least (by far). The Paiste and Sabian are a tie for me as a close second to the Istanbul. The Istanbul's crash sound is was sold me as to why it's my favorite of this bunch.
Nice selection of ride cymbals.
Game over right out of the gate, K Custom.
Oh wait, LOL, I love them all, wow, that's a hard one and I'm a Paiste guy
Obviously you should have tried Paiste rude and Zildjian mega bell, possibly the Sabian hhx power ride and power bell ride too.
Great video!
Zildjian
Paiste
Istanbul
Sabian
Meinl
Wow I am going with the Sabian....2.Paiste 3.Istanbul and I'm a Zildjian guy! but to my ears I do not care for the high overtones produced from the Zildjian hybrid, at least here.
How do you choose? I cannot decide which one I like the most! Normally one stands out to me but not this time. Even the crash sounds were all nice. Don't do this to me again please , going to go into the poor house from buying too much stuff.
Everyone seems to use wood tip sticks which doesn't really showcase the sharper, more pingy sound you get from using nylong tips. I would demonstrate these with nylong tips as they are Rock rides.
The K Custom seemed to have the most middle of the road characteristics in terms of wash/ping/bell/crash, which is why it's my favourite of the bunch. (Still not as great as the A Custom Medium I have, but anywho). The others are all better in other areas but lack in certain ways, like have a better bell but the crash is too gong-y etc, so of those 5 the K was the most well-rounded.
The bell on that Sabian slaps hard
I liked the Meinl Cymbals Classics Custom Dark Ride 22” but for dark Rock. It's not a "sweet" sounding as all the other rides but I feel like the pitch is lower but without being almost in audible like some big thick rides are. I thought of "Come As You Are" Dave Grohl style with that.
I love Paiste, but not a huge fan of their ride cymbals. I used this video to get my K Custom Hybrid. Overall best in stick def., bell, and crashability.
I´d take Sabian over the others. Thanks guys!
It's the Paiste for my ears!!! The Meinl comes next!
I like the reflector best also
Holy crap I got a Drum Center of Portsmouth add literally right before watching this, what are the odds lol
Paiste Signature Power Ride is also a great rock ride.
Great video. Thanks for the comparison.
Zildjian
Istanbul
Paiste
Meinl
Sabian
I guess I'm simple. Love an A Custom Ping under a nylon tip.
HHX Legacy Heavy 22” 🤘🏻
Thank you so much! (Kai, 8, Los Angeles, CA)