the fact y'all be telling black people we shouldn't be offended by things like this. yall need to sit down. literally it's disrespectful and it's wrong, it doesn't mean she should like get cancelled or something. the fact that year pass by and this is still a thing it's bc she was never held accountable. what she did wouldn't make her a bad person, but your response to it made everything worst. btw, if you're black and don't feel offended by this, good for you! but don't try to shame ppl who do.
looooool is this what everyone was making a big deal about , surely if you've watched any comedy shows you've already seen stuff like this done all the time
Well, some people always need to make a big deal out of smth to give them stuff to complain about. Honestly, it feels like the black culture appropriation theme is getting old, most of them getting wayyyy too butthurt over braids and sassy gestures. She presented a stereotype, one that most black people would recognise if they were asked to imitate others, she wasn't trying to be racist. The same stereotype seen all over entertainment. If black people do it, it's alright, if whites/asian attempt it, it's full on war. Don't have any issues with a black person trying to imitate me, but God help me if I tried it to imitate them back. #sensitivemuch?
just because this type of stuff happens alot in comedy shows doesnt make it ok. Only this year there have been like two incidents where idols do blackface in variety shows so now blackface is acceptable???? dont believe anything or think its acceptable just because its on tv
Yes, people in Korea are ignorant to the offensive nature of stereotypes. However, it's not acceptable. Kpop fans cannot continue to allow their idols or their biases to appropriate black culture, find humor in stereotypes, and use black face, just to name a few recurring incidents. Although her intentions were not spiteful, it still is hurtful to those who are black. No, I will not hate her, I'm sure she's a wonderful person, she just made a mistake, but, we cannot excuse this behavior. Instead of saying, "Oh, they're ignorant" or "Oh, they don't understand", why don't we speak out and let them know what they're doing is unacceptable. There is no need for being overly defensive on either side, but we all need to agree that we cannot let this go on anymore.
100%!! I think most of the people that commented on this didn't see the whole show. At one point she said she especially knows how to imitate black men because they're like gangsters.... If that isn't offensive I don't know what is. To put millions of people in a box based on what's shown in the media while exposing yourself to the media doing the same is more harmful than anything. We're it to be the other way around someone imitating Asians a certain way saying they're all like that it would've been hell in korean media. Especially with such massive foreign fan bases it's time for people to start getting it right rather than defend the ignorance.
Your're getting offended because she stereotyped black people yet you're steryotyping koreans by saying theyre ignorant hm. And also, when people make stereotypical comments towards asians, they dont make big deals about it. Especially in South Korean and Japan.
+jordan nathaniel yeah I totally agree with you. I mean yeah it sorta wasn't her fault since she was being ignorant but she should be more careful and more aware of what she says.
This isn't even racist. She's just doing an impersonation of a stereotype. She's not trying to discriminate against a race, which, by the way, is the definition of racism. She's not implying that she's superior to black people. Someone should just advise her not to make jokes like that. I still stan Wendy.
I liked it. I'm black and unfortunately most other black people I know, even in my own family, act like this. And if you are black, in our culture, if you don't act all annoying and aggressive like this, if you are soft spoken and polite and overly nice, they will tease you and ask why you acting so white and that you must really hate yourself (desire to be white). So to avoid this type of reaction from them, I end up adapting and acting and speaking aggressively/loudly. Blacks speak very loudly and have dramatic, way over-the-top facial expressions and gestures. If you are black and you don't (act/speak this way), they will say you are weak/submissive (especially if male). So, ...basically the exact opposite cultural norms as "most" East Asians' cultural norms. No wonder each group has such stereotyped reactions of the other. And don't think blacks are innocent, either. They are usually the first to stereotype/disparage others, I notice that they will just usually do it only around close friends (aka while Asians and whites and Hispanics are NOT around). But I think everyone does that. It's just shocking (not to me but I guess for others) to hear someone come out and do it so publicly. But whatever, I like this real side of KPop. If black people didn't generally act this way, they wouldn't be stereotyped this way. Makes it hard for us who don't, but doesn't make it any less valid/true for most. JMHO.
And I also love how black people are always pointing the finger at surface things they call racist when that is like their specialty? What about the movie white chicks? Did we not laugh through that shit? Where is the line drawn? Are we the only ones excluded from beg racist? I get that seeing this can be somewhat frustrating initially, but then I come to my senses and realize that it's a fucking joke. I've heard/seen much worse than this right here in America with comedians on the stage. And they tell the most truth out of anyone.
+Camie Li Please do not spread this ignorance about our race. We are so much more than stereotypes. I'm sorry you are not free to be who you truly are, and you have to succumb to the stereotypes, but DO NOT paint me or other black people with your stereotypical paint brush. Thank you.
Some people just need constant reasons to get butthurt, wayyyy too sensitive about things. I wouldn't give a rats ass if a person of a different skin color jokingly imitated me (because we all know that the entertainment media creates all these stereotypes), but God forbid if I ever decided to imitate back a sensitive black person...
Just because you're black doesn't mean other black people don't have the right to be offended. You're seriously okay with her labeling all black men as "gangsters"? Love yourself.
I never said you didnt have the right to be offended number 1. i just said i dont see the big deal. Number 2. When did she call black men "gangsters" i dont keep up with red velvet ive only seen this clip. I dont really care. Number 3 i do love myself thank you VERY fucking much :) which is why im not insecure about what some random asian girl says. You let this effect you for what?? maybe you need to learn to love yourself and stop getting offended by someone who's only doing something for comedy. black people are portrayed to be like this in movies and tv shows and if that's all she had to go why even blame her? It's supposed to be funny. get over yourself. I bet if this was a white girl impression you wouldn't give 2 shits. Pro-blacks honestly get on my nerves.. you guys always play the victim card instead of changing things. black people DO act like this. Have you not been to the hood? Do you know how many black girls say " i know youre not fucking talking to me?" or "Who the fuck you talking to?" Exactly. If you dont like how things are change it :)
also... i honestly dont give a fuck what she calls others. i know who i am and how i act. Im not ghetto. im well mannered when it's called for... in your case it's not because you come off as very disrespectful and you dont get my kindness. "love myself" Who are you to tell me im unhappy because words dont phase me. What a shame..
Goth Tiana Why? she's just being over sensitive.. it's unnecessary. i honestly forgot about this until you commented lol.. she doesn't need to breed is she's gonna pass along these teachings
1. Yes, it's a bit disappointing for Wendy doing 'dangerous' act like this, without considering how fans will react. I'm not hating, just a bit disappointed. 2. IMHO, she's not being what y'all called 'racist'. There's a fundamental thing that differentiate between being racist and stereotyping: the intention to discriminate. As we can see, she's impersonating how certain culture / people talk. She's not ridiculing / discriminating the certain culture / people mentioned. 3. Y'all have to differentiate between being racist and stereotyping (read books, google things, learn some shit). If i say "All chinese eat rice and using chopsticks", am i being racist? If i say "english" with japanese pronunciation, "enggurishu", am i being racist? If i say "geez all of korean idols doin that annoying aegyo thingy", am i being racist? Nope, i'm stereotyping them and i have pure zero intention to degrade / discriminate them. 4. Y'all need to stop overreacting. Even you guys must ever doin something like Wendy did at least once (imitating and stereotyping, that often misjudged as being racist). Stop the hate. 5. I know that things like this is very sensitive. Koreans really need to learn more about other culture so they can avoid something like this happened again in the future.
bro, i think you need to listen to african american people's opinion. Ok, you're right about the 'racist card', but it still doesn't change the fact that Wendy's imitation might upset some people.
So if I started speaking the ENGRISH language the way Asian people do with an accent then that won't be considered racist? Or how about when a Tmz reporter did that when repeating how a exid member responded when landing in california and their company accused tmz of being racist and even trying to file a lawsuit. So its racist when it's done to them, but when they do it to others then all these excuses come out?
OMG THAT IS SO RACIST IM GONNA CRY OMG OMG WHY SHE DO THAT THAT'S SO INHUMAN SO UNCALL FOR ... lol it's not even that bad, ppl that are butthurt should take a chill pill.
MC ASKED HER to imitate and showing them the difference between « black girls and white girls expression and accent » learn Korean before talking. I can see that you cut the moment when he asks her. And if you don’t know idols have a script to read and learn tho. Don’t think that kpop industry is always clean and perfect as you think stop dreaming lmao. In second part if you are very offended go yell to all those celebrities who stereotyping white, black and even Asian people. Because yes I think that we always talk about black ppl but not Asian ppl often. Some ppl just hate Wendy that’s why they just want to make issues.
+TaeTi Anti People allow black people to portray other races in a bad way. Nowadays, it is too often when I say see a black person imitating white girls and Asians.
+Norma Brown-Duncan Don't even try it. Literally everyone portrays "Asian" (Chinese) people in a stereotypical way. Asia is known to be racist /colorist towards black people, this is COMMON in Asia.
+TaeTi Anti she is imitating a sassy person and u r the racist one here who is saying that black people act like that therefore by imitating a sassy person she is imitating a black person. and I love myself and I am telling what I think whether loving my self or not has nothing to do with this
Who call this racist?!lmao maybe you just want to criticize her for reenacting what she observed and saw from other foreign countries/people.... Some foreign artist even do this what's the big deal is it because she is an Asian? What a mentality.....
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the fact y'all be telling black people we shouldn't be offended by things like this. yall need to sit down. literally it's disrespectful and it's wrong, it doesn't mean she should like get cancelled or something. the fact that year pass by and this is still a thing it's bc she was never held accountable. what she did wouldn't make her a bad person, but your response to it made everything worst.
btw, if you're black and don't feel offended by this, good for you! but don't try to shame ppl who do.
I really want to like RV...this is why its hard to stan kpop groups 😧😧
No please still love RV! She was just ignorant at this time! They're a great group. This one incident shouldn't reflect on the whole group!
Is this comment a joke? XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
looooool is this what everyone was making a big deal about , surely if you've watched any comedy shows you've already seen stuff like this done all the time
Well, some people always need to make a big deal out of smth to give them stuff to complain about. Honestly, it feels like the black culture appropriation theme is getting old, most of them getting wayyyy too butthurt over braids and sassy gestures. She presented a stereotype, one that most black people would recognise if they were asked to imitate others, she wasn't trying to be racist. The same stereotype seen all over entertainment. If black people do it, it's alright, if whites/asian attempt it, it's full on war. Don't have any issues with a black person trying to imitate me, but God help me if I tried it to imitate them back. #sensitivemuch?
just because this type of stuff happens alot in comedy shows doesnt make it ok. Only this year there have been like two incidents where idols do blackface in variety shows so now blackface is acceptable???? dont believe anything or think its acceptable just because its on tv
School shtings happen all the time too...I don't see you defending it
Yes, people in Korea are ignorant to the offensive nature of stereotypes. However, it's not acceptable. Kpop fans cannot continue to allow their idols or their biases to appropriate black culture, find humor in stereotypes, and use black face, just to name a few recurring incidents. Although her intentions were not spiteful, it still is hurtful to those who are black. No, I will not hate her, I'm sure she's a wonderful person, she just made a mistake, but, we cannot excuse this behavior. Instead of saying, "Oh, they're ignorant" or "Oh, they don't understand", why don't we speak out and let them know what they're doing is unacceptable. There is no need for being overly defensive on either side, but we all need to agree that we cannot let this go on anymore.
100%!! I think most of the people that commented on this didn't see the whole show. At one point she said she especially knows how to imitate black men because they're like gangsters.... If that isn't offensive I don't know what is. To put millions of people in a box based on what's shown in the media while exposing yourself to the media doing the same is more harmful than anything. We're it to be the other way around someone imitating Asians a certain way saying they're all like that it would've been hell in korean media. Especially with such massive foreign fan bases it's time for people to start getting it right rather than defend the ignorance.
oh shut up lamo shes acting sassy...grow up
she lived in fucking canada
Your're getting offended because she stereotyped black people yet you're steryotyping koreans by saying theyre ignorant hm. And also, when people make stereotypical comments towards asians, they dont make big deals about it. Especially in South Korean and Japan.
I'm black and how is this racist she imitating a sassy person
I know right what's the big deal? She was obviously just joking
+jordan nathaniel yeah I totally agree with you. I mean yeah it sorta wasn't her fault since she was being ignorant but she should be more careful and more aware of what she says.
Wait did she say that her imitaition was to black people? It's an honest question not supposed to be aggresive.
yes this was an imitation of a black woman,, spreeding the "sassy angry black woman" stereotype. This is not ok.
This isn't even racist. She's just doing an impersonation of a stereotype. She's not trying to discriminate against a race, which, by the way, is the definition of racism. She's not implying that she's superior to black people. Someone should just advise her not to make jokes like that. I still stan Wendy.
She's being ignorant in the video.
I liked it. I'm black and unfortunately most other black people I know, even in my own family, act like this. And if you are black, in our culture, if you don't act all annoying and aggressive like this, if you are soft spoken and polite and overly nice, they will tease you and ask why you acting so white and that you must really hate yourself (desire to be white). So to avoid this type of reaction from them, I end up adapting and acting and speaking aggressively/loudly. Blacks speak very loudly and have dramatic, way over-the-top facial expressions and gestures. If you are black and you don't (act/speak this way), they will say you are weak/submissive (especially if male). So, ...basically the exact opposite cultural norms as "most" East Asians' cultural norms. No wonder each group has such stereotyped reactions of the other. And don't think blacks are innocent, either. They are usually the first to stereotype/disparage others, I notice that they will just usually do it only around close friends (aka while Asians and whites and Hispanics are NOT around). But I think everyone does that. It's just shocking (not to me but I guess for others) to hear someone come out and do it so publicly. But whatever, I like this real side of KPop. If black people didn't generally act this way, they wouldn't be stereotyped this way. Makes it hard for us who don't, but doesn't make it any less valid/true for most. JMHO.
And I also love how black people are always pointing the finger at surface things they call racist when that is like their specialty? What about the movie white chicks? Did we not laugh through that shit? Where is the line drawn? Are we the only ones excluded from beg racist? I get that seeing this can be somewhat frustrating initially, but then I come to my senses and realize that it's a fucking joke. I've heard/seen much worse than this right here in America with comedians on the stage. And they tell the most truth out of anyone.
The truth has finally spoken.
+Camie Li Please do not spread this ignorance about our race. We are so much more than stereotypes. I'm sorry you are not free to be who you truly are, and you have to succumb to the stereotypes, but DO NOT paint me or other black people with your stereotypical paint brush. Thank you.
So most black people are from North America?🤔😭I don't know where you come from but most black people don't act this way.
not every black person is from north America ffs. just because you've chosen to accept the stereotype that is placed on u that doesn't mean we do.
im black... i don't see what the big fucking deal is??? I do that shit all the time when i make fun of others... we're all joking.
Some people just need constant reasons to get butthurt, wayyyy too sensitive about things. I wouldn't give a rats ass if a person of a different skin color jokingly imitated me (because we all know that the entertainment media creates all these stereotypes), but God forbid if I ever decided to imitate back a sensitive black person...
Just because you're black doesn't mean other black people don't have the right to be offended. You're seriously okay with her labeling all black men as "gangsters"? Love yourself.
I never said you didnt have the right to be offended number 1. i just said i dont see the big deal. Number 2. When did she call black men "gangsters" i dont keep up with red velvet ive only seen this clip. I dont really care. Number 3 i do love myself thank you VERY fucking much :) which is why im not insecure about what some random asian girl says. You let this effect you for what?? maybe you need to learn to love yourself and stop getting offended by someone who's only doing something for comedy. black people are portrayed to be like this in movies and tv shows and if that's all she had to go why even blame her? It's supposed to be funny. get over yourself. I bet if this was a white girl impression you wouldn't give 2 shits. Pro-blacks honestly get on my nerves.. you guys always play the victim card instead of changing things. black people DO act like this. Have you not been to the hood? Do you know how many black girls say " i know youre not fucking talking to me?" or "Who the fuck you talking to?" Exactly. If you dont like how things are change it :)
also... i honestly dont give a fuck what she calls others. i know who i am and how i act. Im not ghetto. im well mannered when it's called for... in your case it's not because you come off as very disrespectful and you dont get my kindness. "love myself" Who are you to tell me im unhappy because words dont phase me. What a shame..
Goth Tiana Why? she's just being over sensitive.. it's unnecessary. i honestly forgot about this until you commented lol.. she doesn't need to breed is she's gonna pass along these teachings
Wow this is so racist that Nelson Mandela is crying from Table Mountain
Sponge Bob u even don’t understand the context mc asked her and she was obliged to read and learn et script
Y’all so overreacting
@@gereumaniumdaegubacksu1327 it's still racist regardless. Y'all never wanna hold y'all faves accountable when they're in the wrong
Red Velvet's Wendy You ain't gonna talk to me
camilli santos she won’t bcs of her busy schedule
28 people aren't talkin to wendy
Tony Tempo yes bcs u can’t
How the hell is this racist? It's just a comedy act lol
Everyone is saying this is racist lmao, grow up.
We're just supposed to allow people to imitate black people in a negative light? K.
TaeTi Anti The impersonation wasn't even that big of a deal lmao, could've been worse. Black people imitate other races too and it's not a big deal.
+Kait "That big of a deal" yeah ok cause black people have been portrayed as ghetto and ratchet for the longest ok.
THANK YOU, fellow RUclipsr with at least an ounce of common sense.
She said in the show she can imitate black men because they're gangstas...but hey, its funny so thats all that matters right
1. Yes, it's a bit disappointing for Wendy doing 'dangerous' act like this, without considering how fans will react. I'm not hating, just a bit disappointed.
2. IMHO, she's not being what y'all called 'racist'. There's a fundamental thing that differentiate between being racist and stereotyping: the intention to discriminate. As we can see, she's impersonating how certain culture / people talk. She's not ridiculing / discriminating the certain culture / people mentioned.
3. Y'all have to differentiate between being racist and stereotyping (read books, google things, learn some shit). If i say "All chinese eat rice and using chopsticks", am i being racist? If i say "english" with japanese pronunciation, "enggurishu", am i being racist? If i say "geez all of korean idols doin that annoying aegyo thingy", am i being racist? Nope, i'm stereotyping them and i have pure zero intention to degrade / discriminate them.
4. Y'all need to stop overreacting. Even you guys must ever doin something like Wendy did at least once (imitating and stereotyping, that often misjudged as being racist). Stop the hate.
5. I know that things like this is very sensitive. Koreans really need to learn more about other culture so they can avoid something like this happened again in the future.
Thank god, someone using their logic.
bro, i think you need to listen to african american people's opinion. Ok, you're right about the 'racist card', but it still doesn't change the fact that Wendy's imitation might upset some people.
So if I started speaking the ENGRISH language the way Asian people do with an accent then that won't be considered racist? Or how about when a Tmz reporter did that when repeating how a exid member responded when landing in california and their company accused tmz of being racist and even trying to file a lawsuit. So its racist when it's done to them, but when they do it to others then all these excuses come out?
OMG THAT IS SO RACIST IM GONNA CRY OMG OMG WHY SHE DO THAT THAT'S SO INHUMAN SO UNCALL FOR ... lol it's not even that bad, ppl that are butthurt should take a chill pill.
I dont find this racist xD everyone is over reacting lol
It's absolutely racist
TaeTi Anti nah ahah
+Adrianna Struss How old are you? I wouldn't want to have a conversation with some pre teen that knows nothing.
TaeTi Anti 13, ill be 14 in less than a month
+Adrianna Struss I wouldn't expect you to understand
MC ASKED HER to imitate and showing them the difference between « black girls and white girls expression and accent »
learn Korean before talking.
I can see that you cut the moment when he asks her.
And if you don’t know idols have a script to read and learn tho. Don’t think that kpop industry is always clean and perfect as you think stop dreaming lmao.
In second part if you are very offended go yell to all those celebrities who stereotyping white, black and even Asian people. Because yes I think that we always talk about black ppl but not Asian ppl often. Some ppl just hate Wendy that’s why they just want to make issues.
its not racist loool
It is
soo cute
not at all
@@snsdsdaughter wait wtf I didn't mean to comment this shit 💀 I don't support Wendy
Soooooo how is this racist? She's just imitating.
and she shoudn't do that.
She's being ignorant with harmful racial stereotypes
Wow people actually made a big deal out of this like I am black and I don't find this racist
You don't love yourself
+Allison The Human They're allowing other races to portray black people in a bad way.
+TaeTi Anti People allow black people to portray other races in a bad way. Nowadays, it is too often when I say see a black person imitating white girls and Asians.
+Norma Brown-Duncan Don't even try it. Literally everyone portrays "Asian" (Chinese) people in a stereotypical way. Asia is known to be racist /colorist towards black people, this is COMMON in Asia.
+TaeTi Anti she is imitating a sassy person and u r the racist one here who is saying that black people act like that therefore by imitating a sassy person she is imitating a black person. and I love myself and I am telling what I think whether loving my self or not has nothing to do with this
this isn't even racist. gosh
How is it not?
+TaeTi Anti Because in real life, that's how people really act.
+mina Choi Are you fucking serious?
+TaeTi Anti Yes. I am fucking serious. So Fuck off about my opinion.
+mina Choi Your "opinion" is wrong. You're so fucking blind, you probably don't even know what racism is, this is definitely racist.
Who call this racist?!lmao maybe you just want to criticize her for reenacting what she observed and saw from other foreign countries/people....
Some foreign artist even do this what's the big deal is it because she is an Asian? What a mentality.....
she labelled black people as loud and aggressive people
it's racist
It is racist
This is actually funny
this is so ugly,,,,,,,,,
Yall want to hate Wendy
U are overreacting honestly smh