Even in a field where you live or die PURELY BASED ON PERSONALITY, BECAUSE EVERYTHING ELSE IS A CONSTRUCT... people still blame their inadequacies on perceived handicaps based in racist presumptions, as was hammered into them time and time again in high school and college and is now being hammered into them in elementary and middle school. Good shit.
Yeah it doesn't even make sense cause as far as I know most vtubers are some form of Asian, and ironmouse is latina and one of the biggest vtubers. These people just don't put in the same amount of time and effort as the popular vtubers and wanna blame some strawman
@@CodeeXD Many of the top Vtubers are also gay or bisexual (or at least act or pretend to be) Showing that even your sexuality doesn't matter much in the grand sceme of things
The episode of Fairly Odd Parents where Timmy wished for everyone to look exactly the same is a message that still sits with me. There will always be people who think they're better than everyone and act like jerks no matter what. It's all about mentality.
@@CodeeXD Off topic, but I find it interesting that a lot of people use the term Latino as a kind of race, even though Latino is just a language group, a Latino person can be White, black, Asian or a mixture of all of these.
I love how everyone wants to blame someone other than themselves. I'm sorry, but not everyone is cut out to be an entertainer, because to be a Vtuber, an actor, or a comedian you have to... you know... be entertaining. I wanted to be a youtuber once upon a time, but it's just a fact that I'm not that entertaining to watch and I moved on. I still have that creative bone and write light novels, but I'm not cut out for being a public figure. I feel like Twitch and Vtubing has become over saturated. Too many people who let a little success go to their heads, and suddenly they think they're the best ever because they aren't COMPLETELY obscure.
You can still be a vtuber without being entertaining. I'll prove it in the future. You just need to not care about anything other says. I mean, I think it was Jo Koy who was asked about his worst stage performance and he answered that it was the 1st stand up. He made the audience clap and laugh and to him, he thought he was killing it that night. When he viewed the replay, it was just one guy laughing at his own joke. And now, he had multiple comedy specials including a movie. Point: Being "entertaining" depends on people. While you might be unentertaining to most, you might be entertaining to some. And that some, will suggest you to their friends who are like them, until your "some" become "more" and then it becomes a community of people who appeciate your "entertainment." It's just a matter of how you get yourself be affected until you get that community you deserve.
It's the thing about the current progressive/woke movement as a whole : it preaches that all of your problems are _not_ your fault (provided you are not white/cis/straight/male), even when it follows from your own bad decisions. They go out of their way to not have any accountability to anyone other than the current "evil" group. That's why the only thing they ever do is blame others for their failures.
imma have to add on to that one P1 - "You having a good time?" P2 - "Yeah. Everything is good, thanks" P1 - "STOP INVALIDATING MINORITIES!" P1 - *immedietly invalidates the majority in one place* Sensible human beings "hey wait a minute thats not right!" P1- *shocked pikachu face when they do the exact thing they say to not do but they change target*
While you're clearly not privileged in other aspects, that has nothing to do with white privilege. White privilege is systematic with real consequences on the basis of race, not an exemption from suffering on the basis of race. Privilege comes in other forms; not just with race. This person is ranting about white people and white privilege for quite a bit, so I assume that's what you're referring to, but I apologize if you meant privilege as a whole and I am mistaken. I'm sorry you went through some tough stuff.
@@nomoretwitterhandles and whats wrong with that? white people made their country why wouldn't they have an advantage non whites counties are the same thing but yet they attack for being privilege
Tbh that whole thread didn't make sense at all. The original tweet is complaining about something just to shit on cis white people I guess for the hell of it
Bruh that vtuber had the trans flag just plastered on their model. That's a classic tell me you have no personality without telling me you have no personality. They could have been so much more creative with their model like give yourself armor, gown, suit, etc. A vtubers model should give a good idea of what they are about.
Hey hero Hei. Appreciate the content. One thing I know from this recent Vtweeter crap is I guarantee if these people had their real faces on their profiles they wouldn't say half the shit they do. Bunch of keyboard warriors, and virtue signallers. And from past experience a lot of people who virtue signal to this degree often have skeletons in their own closets.
I hate anything nerdy or weebish getting too popular because it attracts the grimiest type of internet user, then the community tanks. Once its a husk of what it was they move on and never look back on what they destroyed. I fear anime will end up the same in the west. I mean it kinda already is. Trash VAs and other part time EN Vtubers don’t really appreciate what anime is to those of us who was here from the start, its just a paintjob for their internet career.
People like this make me lose faith sometimes. Yet its people with takes like yours that remind me not everyone is crazy. Keep up the good content my man.
@@GlassesnMouthplates when you tries to search something and ended up getting woke and disgusting stuff in da. I'm considering getting a pixiv account instead, Japanese artworks are generally more of my cup of tea
This is a massive case of “Skill Issue” AKA: This person’s shit/mid/meh and can’t compare to the big names, so they scream about some unfair boogeyman that makes everything unfair to JUST THEM, and ONLY them. Cause there’s no way a normal person could ever be disadvantaged.
Indeed. And this person's issue can be easily fixed on top of it. Get off your ass, stop being a whiney loser, and actually put in the work like the big names did. You're an entertainer, so entertain. People don't watch Vtubers to get lectured about how evil and horrible they are. People are not interested in this mindless sloganeering bullshit. They watch because they want to forget the stress of life and take their minds off things for a bit.
These "antiracist" vtuber types actually genuinely seem pretty racist, tbh. They hear someones voice and think if they don't use slang or have any kind of accent then they must be white
@@dog_boy5123 dude honest racists wont try to play victim while they throw their hateful perspective around. anyone who claims to not be racist in the slightest is fucking lying and you shouldnt trust them
They also tend to have trash ass models, further solidifying that it’s not the rest of the world making it hard for them, they just don’t want to put the work in
It's always hilariously ironic to me that the same types of people who say you shouldn't use someone's identity against them and judge them for that are the same people using a slur against straight people (cis) and identifying them by the color of their skin rather than the content of their character... wait a second there was a Civil Rights activist that said something like that!
The thing is, these people think they are on the "right side of history". Therefore, in their mind, they are allowed to do the vilest shit imaginable, because anyone against their cause is literally worse than Hitler.
Why do you think double speak exists in 1984? Because hypocrisy is the only thing keeping their ideology alive and it keeps the useful idiots in check.
@@ItIsGonnaGetWayWorse Get out of here with that BS. Communism isn't real, every system has its lazy people. Consider where Elon got his riches. Consider who built the Transcontinental Railroad. Sure as hell wasn't the product of hard-working capitalist CEOs.
Reminds me of that dumbass artist who made quite a following for drawing inflation fetish art but for whatever reason, he decided to become a feminist + LGBT ally by making a crappy webcomic series where he's personified as an anthropomorphic blue bear who constantly criticizes "sexism" in videogames and (of course) men in general. At the end of the day, he would still be getting repeatedly called out for being hostile towards a woman in a conversation (I think she criticized his comic or something like that) and running another webcomic series about a group of lesbian girls where he clearly made them sexualized in a lot of scenes.
Yup, being white has given me such benefits as; being so poor I have creditors hounding me, need around 10k worth of dental work done due to accidents, as well being told I'm the root cause of all evil. Good times and much privilege
i feel like the woke response would be: imagine how much worse those things would be if you went through all that AND were also black. comparative victimhood is a game with no winners
@@PyrokineticFire1 Well said, I agree. There really is no winner. All that happens is more division by trying to one up each other when we should instead just agree that the past is the past and awful things happened, learn from it, and do better. Too bad humans seem cyclical and repeat ourselves, just with different flavours, all with the same shitty taste though
Isn't that basically money laundering? A V-tuber is responsible to put out as much content for the viewer's approval and gratification. Without among those things, clout driven people tends to pour as much rotten eggs into the basket to drive away the birds from the nest. (Wasting precious money and the effort into the model and rigging to amplify the V-tweeter's authority of power and insensible anecdotes)
@@PlaystationTaxation69999 I don't think you know what money laundering is. That's when you use a business to run illegal money through so it's now "legal" money
@@CodeeXD I knew the definition of it, its just I used it in the wrong circumstance. (If it was a company that pulls money within illegal intentions and exploits, then my comment will be altered. In that case, my answer is a no, considering that I used the example of V-tweeter instead of a malicious corporation.) Thanks for the correction.
@@PlaystationTaxation69999 Looks like you're thinking about scammers. Money Laundering is the method of making illegally obtained funds seem legitimate. ie, getting a job so it doesn't look strange when an unemployed drug dealer can afford a nice car.
You know I get kinda sick of being called things I'm not or being told I hold privilege over others just because of my skin color. Telling someone they have white privilege is racist.
Just the concept itself, in my opinion, is racist. It's basically another form of judging someone else by the color of their skin. Where was my so-called "whit privilege" when I was growing up, hmm?
I find it funny minorities can call white people all sort of horrible things and most people are cool with it because it’s white and they have privilege. I honestly find it bs and those people are the real racist but hide behind their skin color to avoid it and some claim you can’t be racist as a minority which is extra funny. Also since this is the internet, I’m a minority and myself who hate when people use their race as a clutch for not being able to work for something and want things handed to them.
I'd say I've lived a privileged. Not because of skin color, but because my Dad is a Chad. Moved to this country and made a life here. I can't not respect the man.
@@Chaos89P Whats worse is that americans being americans project that shit to other country like europe. Those mf dont understand that just because your white skinned doesnt mean you are the same as another white skinned guy. Like I m the child of two Polish (illegal) immigrants in Belgium. I had fck 0 privilege. Not even white since skin color matters less in european country than nationality and religion lmao
There should be an unspoken law where, if you can prove they accused you of white privilege and you're not privileged, you can cold cock them. Just BAM! Right in the love-me-tenders. It might not stop it, but it'll make the rest of us feel better.
3:15 When you complain that people asking for “good vibes only” in their community is a problem, you know you’re the kind of person who WANTS to marinate in their own misery a little too long.
First things first: That base looks pretty sweet! Its always EN VTubers that forget/never understood that a huge reason for why we even watch VTubers is to take our minds off of the real world for a few hours a week/day. Heck, you could apply this to other media too. If I wanted to talk about real world issues, I would do it in the apropriate places with the apropriate people - not with some random anime character online. These people cant separate fantasy from reality, and it only gets worse the more theyre online
Seriously. Just the short clip from them would make me not want to watch not only because it's more stupid twitter anti capitalism stuff as usual but the person just sounds....disinterested and just wanting to push their ideology over wanting to be entertaining. It's ironic how some of these people are so anti religion yet do nothing but preach
@@fluidwolf the clip is the same thing i honestly can get not just from other people like them, but the people taking the piss out of these types too. "oh, the catholic church" yeah, like i didn't hear that one in every standup going back over 20 years. or the anti-religious now. or the actually religious who want to say the church is terrible because it's sold itself out. it's nothing interesting.
Got to love that privilege, paying full price for college and having to outscore people by an additional 20% just for admissions because people with my level of melanin makeup make up a majority of the population that wants to go to college. Not to mention having to lawyer up for every little thing if the other person involved even in the most black-and-white * pun not intended* cases like somebody running a red light on my dash cam happens to be a little bit more toasted than I am.
@@kabob0077 I think only ame and mori could somewhat put up a fighting chance (mori not giving a damn and ame’s handling of toxic players in her stream sometimes) but other than that, no other vtubers would survive those games 💀
Wow they push positivity when they are trying to entertain people? Even the ones who tend to be super positive will talk big issues if they come up, but usually they just want to vibe because it's nobody else's business what's happening in their lives.
It is like these people forgot what having a "private life" is suppose to be like. And honestly this is exactly why I hated Twitter when it became popular in 2012. Like do I really need to know every facet of your life. Smosh made a joke where Twitter was the equivalent of announcing to everyone you took a big dump in the bathroom. These Vtweeters are essentially doing that, but giving us too much of a view into their disturbed minds. These people badly needed actually therapy, and especially not from a quack psychiatrist that probably is just feeding them what they want to hear rather than actually addressing the problems.
I think it's prolly not about the vtubers live. but more all the ppl in chat that want to trauma dump and stuff demand the vtubers give attention and pity them or something.
I have an idea. If you don't want to get continuously judged for irrelevant attributes (skin color, sexuality, what not)... consider not making it the main part of your entire personality? Consider being the best "you" that you can be, instead of fishing for sympathy and expecting automatic respect because you're of a specific gender or something?
people only judge on the gender,skin colore etc when things are going "bad" in the 21 century, some people are still been judge even if they dont make it part of theire personality.
@@soc_rodjean_390 dear God that grammar is atrocious how do I a non native speaker speak better English then someone from an English speaking country it's sad really
Sometimes I wonder why SJWs keep repeating basic notions such as "sexism is bad" every day as if they were some sort of complex, deeply intellectual hot takes. Then I see slow people like this Hellspawn Godfather guy and I remember they do it because they're projecting their bigoted past selves onto everyone around them, thinking that coming to the basic realization that "sexism is bad" is somehow difficult for people. The reality is that good, open-minded people come to these realizations on their own.
One reason other Vtubers are successful if the fact they purposely avoid politics and social commentary. There's nothing wrong with talking about politics, but most people enjoy Vtubers because they don't get political. When you choose to go down the political road you immediately alienate at least 1/2 of your viewer base, and depending on your views, a lot more than that. I understand wanting to use your platform to promote your views and ideas, but don't expect to hold on to fans when you are actively attacking a portion of your possible viewers. Just be clear this goes both ways- extreme left or extreme right. Doesn't matter. Most people are just tired of listening to your shit.
Funnily enough, I imagine most people that claim to be loving life and having a great time have actually experienced tons of hardship. However, they tend to avoid complaining about those hardships (at least publicly) because they understand that hardships are just a part of life and they don't feel the need to seek any validation. Just as well, just because someone isn't having a terrible life doesn't mean they are suddenly responsible for someone else's terrible time. If someone were to say "Man, my life sucks" they'd probably get some sympathy. However, normal people don't go online and post paragraphs about how other people are suffering while they are not unprompted, which is what a lot of these conversations seem to be implying to me (that they want CIS white people to just post about the sufferings of other people unprompted).
It sounds like these would-be vtubers aren't interested in playing games, cooking, creating art or music and just chillin' back. Instead they're only interested in complaining, preaching their politics, and finding excuses not to do anything.
The whole point of Vtubers is that YOU DON'T SEE THE REAL LIFE PERSON, and subsequently their race is also anonymous? 😐 -Actually, the other day I found out what a couple vtubers who I watch look like, and they looked completely different and happened to be different races than you might have thought, but AMAZINGLY I DIDN'T CARE. The only people who do care are those who think that people should be treated differently depending on their outward ethnic appearance....
And they say if you're a well-known V-tuber, you won't have any problems... No no no! You will just get bullied for playing a wizard game and have your parents get doxxed. Chill. 😌
@@r99azm80 absolutely, thanks to some lewd VTubers, especially Mel who was technically a pioneer they think adding 18+ will bring in attention without realizing that that's not the main selling point, sure you can be lewd but are you entertaining? Do you have anything to offer?
Honestly that’s just great. What I don’t get is when you can maybe do more fantastical character design, why not? And yes. Purple is just an awesome color.
@@ichigokage Exaaactly, it's such a potential avenue for some really crazy cool designs! I'd model a monster Vtuber if I knew how to use Blender better! Originally I wanted to just straight up be a monster streamer LOL.
I appreciate you being so humble and admit this is kinda low hanging fruit. I don't think there's much inherently wrong with making a video on such a goofy Twitter reply section, I got good laughs from it, too. You even respect the people there, too, even if some of these takes give me figurative brain damage trying to understand what they're attempting to say.
@maxxor-overworldhero6730 You know, there is another funny way to put it. I am white, male and heterosexual. I do not 'identify' as any of the three, I simply 'am' them. I only identify as things I feel label me as a person and don't use the things least important about me to describe myself. I am a Gamer and an Anime Fan.
Hero hei, you know they deleted because of the backlash they knew they would get. People can be stupid when they are on social media. Also they don't understand that you can go through life and not have people be rude to them all of the time because they interact with people with good manners. It's also not that they attack people Hero Hei because they're homophobic and all of that, and I know you know this already but they attack you because you are right and the things that people with "privilege" say are actually logically sound and are reasonable. I choose to see both sides of a debate and because that's how I learn things but that is how I get people to listen to me before the debate degenerates in to a fight. They just have moral superiority and love to see others miserable because of it.
The reason this conversation seemed to veer so far afield is because it did. After the first couple of tweets, particularly the clown at a mugging metaphor, it veered into how most Vtubers aren’t actively stumping for a Socialist Revolution which naturally makes them part of the “Problem”.
I'm already at the point where if I see that flag on a profile or on the model itself, I ignore. I have so many trans friends who are just people and dont make this their identity.
That point you made in the last sentence is ironic. If they self-criticizing, due to their ineffectual and misleading behaviors, then they have to pay for the damages they caused and learning the consequences of how it's affecting others.
I grow up in poverty, and i still live on the poor end of the financial side. My entire life i was living in poor social conditions. Seeing people trying to gaslight us that that we have it better just because our skin color despite all the terrible thing I and many others went through is disgusting. Our family home nearly collapsed on us but guess I'm privileged because I'm white. I went to schools, with nothing in my stomach, driving a bycikle 20km daily, but i guess i had it easy because I'm white. The most annoying part about this entire thing is that the people calling us privileged, are always some rich spoiled mf from U.S or U.K
Being brown and bisexual, I am sure I could rant for awhile about shit like that "if" I was a vtuber. Good thing I have an "old fashioned" job, that's Monday-Friday eight hours a day so I can spend my hard earned money on my hobbies, what ever they may be and not give a crap about what others think about what I do.
What are you even talking about? I’m sure when the communist Revolution takes hold the new government will have a department specifically for diverse and inclusive Vtubers to work at
After going through those threads it reminds me of forums a decade back. I see the same talking points of the people that invaded gaming, table top and nearly every other form of entertainment. These people are political activists who care little for hobbies and just invade them to take them over and kick out the people originally in it. For them, everything is about power. Gate keep your hobbies folks.
😑 to this day I fail to comprehend the "privileged" concept for the sole reason that after hearing what it is, making correlations to the actuality, and then saying that you see a privilege that isn't "white privilege" you get called either a racist, sexist, transphobe, ect...
You can't say how good your experience in a space is? Is it an obligation now to add ''but others don't have it good''??? What the hell? The miserable want others to be miserable, not a surprise.
Where do you think half of Tumblr migrated too in the first place most of this crap like harrasment doxing campaign's cancelling people Can be pretty much blames on Tumblr is where all this crap came from
Fun note, Asians get lumped into white privilege claims when it suits those making the accusation. I see it happen way too often. If you point out statistics that show it's actually Asians who get favored in things (college entry was one of those at one point before colleges started discriminating against them for the sake of equity), they say their actually white too. People who claim that something is purely due to race in this day and age are people who fail to consider any other possibility and are usually racist themselves. Race shouldn't be an issue at this point, but if we can find things that are blatantly racist, we do need to fix that. However, privilege claims are too ambiguous and do nothing to actually find and fix any sort of problems that might exist.
Yep because my grand parents who grew up in poverty and worked their asses off to give my parents (who still grew up in poverty) a good life and then in turn they did the same for me and my sister is somehow a white privelage thing. I swear if someone ever told me that irl i'd probably land in jail.
why do these people assume that every community must be racist in some form to minorities or something, like do they think its not possible to have a community that isn't racist? The entire point of vtubing it to have your own character you act as instead of using yourself as the basis, like people shouldn't know what your skin color is if you are doing it correctly.
Ok what's with the trend of these warriors trying to be vtubers? So what if you're vtuber. You will be treated the same way as a regular streamer. You don't get special treatment. And that these people want is just special treatment and they throw a tantrum when they don't get it.
5:43 I think he kinda sunk that ship before it could even set sail XD dude calling the vtuber community transphobic but wants to be a vtuber. Hate to say it but there’s no community in existence that like it when the people they’re fans of start calling them names and saying they’re transphobic. They did it with the saints row remake, they did it with forspoken, there’s also vtuber who have done it aswell. Didn’t go well for any of them
"Most gay people I know you couldn't tell they're gay" It's almost as if someone's sexuality doesn't have to be their entire identity and there's more to them as a person.
how many time do we teach you old man! Edit: holy hell that charity money already! if i didnt give a lot to kika (kids cancer/ clini clowns in the netherlands) i would help you! keep up the damn good work!
That transphobia remake doesn't make sense given how many guys are using female avatars, some with voice changers and some without and are not treated any more poorly than anyone else.
Gee, how privileged I am, constantly struggling to keep financial stability in my life so I don't have to live with family. Gee, I'm so privileged that I still don't even have a car, yet! 😃
I mean this with all due love and understanding. I myself am on the autism spectrum. My pet theory at the moment is that, as some have noted, there is a correlation between autism spectrum, and tending to not identify readily with the standard gender norms. And there seems to also be correlation with autism spectrum and transness -- there is not 100% overlap by any stretch, just a higher-than average correlation is all, by however many percentage point I don't know. And folks on the autism spectrum tend to have a big "justice" angle for how they see and react to the world. We tend to go off about things that don't sit right with us. I wonder how much of these disagreeable social justice takes are from folks literally on the autism spectrum. From what I know of autism, and my own experience, yeah we do tend to go off about stuff and have some added difficulty with perspective-taking to see the damage or hurt our strong reactions could cause before getting into them... Add to that some anonymity and the ease of reaching people (online discourse/twitter) leads to these bad takes being seen by a lot of people very quickly. The other bit of it is, I would think being trans can be a really painful experience at the worst times. Pain makes it hard to have the patience to deal with other people's perspectives, especially people who feel like they're still antagonizing you on an ongoing basis... It becomes easier to just be upset and harder to take a balanced perspective, and I sympathize with that to some extent. Who here has never posted a wrong take, or something we changed our mind on after posting? I'd be surprised if anyone did. And It's not that these issues don't matter. It's that we're not all experts and we can all be wrong from time to time. Sometimes the anger is misplaced because the premise of the argument just falls apart. I do think it's important to think through whether an argument is actually productive, and not just randomly talk into the void on your social account, otherwise whoever reads it will just get weary and tired rather than learning anything. Eh. Unless you clearly label your post as just venting or whatever. At which point do pretty much whatever you want. But at some point a random tweeter with a bad take just needs to get ignored. We all have bad takes now and again. I just wish this sort of these aimless and vague "find someone who is doing privilege wrong" stuff wasn't so common, and honestly so lazily thought through sometimes. Moral of the story: Think before you tweet, I guess. But also: Ignore the trolls, sometimes people just make questionable posts.
"Some of the gayest people I know, you wouldn't be able to tell..." Got a friend like that. Took me 2 years to figure it out. Though in hindsight, the love of pop music and corndogs should have clued me in sooner.
So... these tweeters are really dead set on rejecting the idea of vtubing being a place for everyone _(regardless of who you are & what you believe)_ to escape all the political/ideological nonsense & just have some fun, huh?
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They are pretty privileged to be complaining about this. Most people have actual problems.
And most people trying start problems so that they would have problems.
Herself included
Facts. Plenty of other people in the world don't have the privilege of wasting their days fabricating outrage on Twitter.
@@renmcmanus that's not really the fault of the west but rather certain backwards sholes
@Kira pretty sure the last two is a problem pretty much half the world faces given our cratering economy closing the economy down dint help ether
Even in a field where you live or die PURELY BASED ON PERSONALITY, BECAUSE EVERYTHING ELSE IS A CONSTRUCT... people still blame their inadequacies on perceived handicaps based in racist presumptions, as was hammered into them time and time again in high school and college and is now being hammered into them in elementary and middle school. Good shit.
Yeah it doesn't even make sense cause as far as I know most vtubers are some form of Asian, and ironmouse is latina and one of the biggest vtubers. These people just don't put in the same amount of time and effort as the popular vtubers and wanna blame some strawman
@@CodeeXD
Many of the top Vtubers are also gay or bisexual (or at least act or pretend to be)
Showing that even your sexuality doesn't matter much in the grand sceme of things
The episode of Fairly Odd Parents where Timmy wished for everyone to look exactly the same is a message that still sits with me. There will always be people who think they're better than everyone and act like jerks no matter what. It's all about mentality.
@@CodeeXD it is not a matter of time and effort. They are just not likable.
@@CodeeXD Off topic, but I find it interesting that a lot of people use the term Latino as a kind of race, even though Latino is just a language group, a Latino person can be White, black, Asian or a mixture of all of these.
I love how everyone wants to blame someone other than themselves. I'm sorry, but not everyone is cut out to be an entertainer, because to be a Vtuber, an actor, or a comedian you have to... you know... be entertaining. I wanted to be a youtuber once upon a time, but it's just a fact that I'm not that entertaining to watch and I moved on. I still have that creative bone and write light novels, but I'm not cut out for being a public figure. I feel like Twitch and Vtubing has become over saturated. Too many people who let a little success go to their heads, and suddenly they think they're the best ever because they aren't COMPLETELY obscure.
You can still be a vtuber without being entertaining. I'll prove it in the future. You just need to not care about anything other says.
I mean, I think it was Jo Koy who was asked about his worst stage performance and he answered that it was the 1st stand up. He made the audience clap and laugh and to him, he thought he was killing it that night. When he viewed the replay, it was just one guy laughing at his own joke. And now, he had multiple comedy specials including a movie.
Point: Being "entertaining" depends on people. While you might be unentertaining to most, you might be entertaining to some. And that some, will suggest you to their friends who are like them, until your "some" become "more" and then it becomes a community of people who appeciate your "entertainment."
It's just a matter of how you get yourself be affected until you get that community you deserve.
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It's the thing about the current progressive/woke movement as a whole : it preaches that all of your problems are _not_ your fault (provided you are not white/cis/straight/male), even when it follows from your own bad decisions.
They go out of their way to not have any accountability to anyone other than the current "evil" group.
That's why the only thing they ever do is blame others for their failures.
Most VTweeters are talentless losers.
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"You having a good time?"
"Yeah. Everything is good, thanks."
"STOP INVALIDATING MINORITIES!"
24/7 whining.
imma have to add on to that one
P1 - "You having a good time?"
P2 - "Yeah. Everything is good, thanks"
P1 - "STOP INVALIDATING MINORITIES!"
P1 - *immedietly invalidates the majority in one place*
Sensible human beings "hey wait a minute thats not right!"
P1- *shocked pikachu face when they do the exact thing they say to not do but they change target*
Twitter in a nutshell 🤣
Yes, I've had so much privilege. From my biological father trying to kill my mom and me, to being homeless my whole life.
While you're clearly not privileged in other aspects, that has nothing to do with white privilege. White privilege is systematic with real consequences on the basis of race, not an exemption from suffering on the basis of race. Privilege comes in other forms; not just with race. This person is ranting about white people and white privilege for quite a bit, so I assume that's what you're referring to, but I apologize if you meant privilege as a whole and I am mistaken. I'm sorry you went through some tough stuff.
@@nomoretwitterhandles I think they meant privilege as a whole, including socially
@@nomoretwitterhandles Did you get a PHD in privilege or smth?
@@nomoretwitterhandles and whats wrong with that? white people made their country why wouldn't they have an advantage non whites counties are the same thing but yet they attack for being privilege
@@mancave10369 Yeah, I considered they might be saying that, but I wasn't sure. I appreciate your opinion on that, thank you.
We need more Vtubers like Pipkin Pippa fr.
These Vtweeters are just bargain bin Vtubers.
God that super lobby was hell
They aren't vtubers, they are mentally challenged individuals with a model rig.
Agreed.
Just another Vtweeter trying to get some clout by baiting outrage hoping it'll help their career take off.
The bargain bin is too good for them. They're more of a dumpster tier.
The "So they're just ...people?" part realy made me go "wtf is wrong with you ?"
I find more often than not people who latch onto a crusade are over compensating for their own demons, and project that onto others
Tbh that whole thread didn't make sense at all. The original tweet is complaining about something just to shit on cis white people I guess for the hell of it
@@satansshadow218 I like how you use the term demons and then I read of your name. Truly being in the role. Love it. 10/10
@JackWrath386 Vegeta from TFS: BAN HIM!!!
@@PlaystationTaxation69999 It's a bot just report nothing else replying to them ain't worth it so it's best to mass report for spam
Bruh that vtuber had the trans flag just plastered on their model. That's a classic tell me you have no personality without telling me you have no personality. They could have been so much more creative with their model like give yourself armor, gown, suit, etc. A vtubers model should give a good idea of what they are about.
I mean, technically it does give a good idea what theyre about
Theyre a NPC
Don’t forget the lad is chugging on a drink called “Extra Gay Energy”
I dunno, man. Seems pretty clear just from that what they're about.
No no this is good. Like this they weed themselves out
It shows what they are about. What they are about is virtue signalling
Hey hero Hei. Appreciate the content. One thing I know from this recent Vtweeter crap is I guarantee if these people had their real faces on their profiles they wouldn't say half the shit they do.
Bunch of keyboard warriors, and virtue signallers. And from past experience a lot of people who virtue signal to this degree often have skeletons in their own closets.
I hate anything nerdy or weebish getting too popular because it attracts the grimiest type of internet user, then the community tanks. Once its a husk of what it was they move on and never look back on what they destroyed. I fear anime will end up the same in the west. I mean it kinda already is. Trash VAs and other part time EN Vtubers don’t really appreciate what anime is to those of us who was here from the start, its just a paintjob for their internet career.
"CIS white creators"
Anyone going to tell this... person... about Japan? No?
Yeah... I wouldn't want to waste my breath, either.
That's what V-tuber concept originated from. Japan. Nobody examines this historical pieces of artifact.
Please I would rather live in a swamp and get eaten by a gator than talk to those fools
@@PlaystationTaxation69999 Commies dont like history
Nah, just wait a few years then bring it up and ruin their lives. Cancel em right on back
Just further proof that "cis" is (and always was) intended to be a slur.
People like this make me lose faith sometimes. Yet its people with takes like yours that remind me not everyone is crazy. Keep up the good content my man.
im taking your faith privileges
Can't even be a cute anime girl in peace 💀
@JackWrath386 Vegeta from TFS: BAN HIM!!!
Deval's avatar looks like a badly-drawn Deviantart fetish art, maybe that's why s/he couldn't be in peace.
@@GlassesnMouthplates when you tries to search something and ended up getting woke and disgusting stuff in da. I'm considering getting a pixiv account instead, Japanese artworks are generally more of my cup of tea
I'm suprised that few comments talk about this
This is a massive case of “Skill Issue”
AKA: This person’s shit/mid/meh and can’t compare to the big names, so they scream about some unfair boogeyman that makes everything unfair to JUST THEM, and ONLY them. Cause there’s no way a normal person could ever be disadvantaged.
Most people are boring and average.
agreed.... victim mentality be running rampant nowadays
Indeed. And this person's issue can be easily fixed on top of it. Get off your ass, stop being a whiney loser, and actually put in the work like the big names did.
You're an entertainer, so entertain. People don't watch Vtubers to get lectured about how evil and horrible they are. People are not interested in this mindless sloganeering bullshit. They watch because they want to forget the stress of life and take their minds off things for a bit.
These "antiracist" vtuber types actually genuinely seem pretty racist, tbh. They hear someones voice and think if they don't use slang or have any kind of accent then they must be white
You can't be antiracist without being a racist because you must view humans through a purely racial perspective
I would rather have honest racist person than an "antiracist" person
At least the honest racist won't hide their motives
Projection is all they have.
@@dog_boy5123 dude honest racists wont try to play victim while they throw their hateful perspective around.
anyone who claims to not be racist in the slightest is fucking lying and you shouldnt trust them
They also tend to have trash ass models, further solidifying that it’s not the rest of the world making it hard for them, they just don’t want to put the work in
It's always hilariously ironic to me that the same types of people who say you shouldn't use someone's identity against them and judge them for that are the same people using a slur against straight people (cis) and identifying them by the color of their skin rather than the content of their character... wait a second there was a Civil Rights activist that said something like that!
The thing is, these people think they are on the "right side of history". Therefore, in their mind, they are allowed to do the vilest shit imaginable, because anyone against their cause is literally worse than Hitler.
Why do you think double speak exists in 1984?
Because hypocrisy is the only thing keeping their ideology alive and it keeps the useful idiots in check.
There are many of us who still hold Mr. King’s dream close to our hearts. Down with all these racists and sexists.
@@ZettyLad Reality is racist and sexist, and we've had the numbers for decades to prove it.
@JackWrath386 Vegeta from TFS: BAN HIM!!!
It's so baffling the ways people use excuses to not work hard
commies in a nutshell
@JackWrath386 Vegeta from TFS: BAN HIM!!!
*Woke people in a nutshell.*
@@ItIsGonnaGetWayWorse Get out of here with that BS. Communism isn't real, every system has its lazy people. Consider where Elon got his riches. Consider who built the Transcontinental Railroad. Sure as hell wasn't the product of hard-working capitalist CEOs.
Yea
These people need to realize that their political opinions and most people do not care
@JackWrath386 Vegeta from TFS: BAN HIM!!!
Hellspawn Godfather is the perfect example of 'I am these things so im going to project to everyone else.'
And you ask yourself why there's a Total Retard War going on.
Reminds me of that dumbass artist who made quite a following for drawing inflation fetish art but for whatever reason, he decided to become a feminist + LGBT ally by making a crappy webcomic series where he's personified as an anthropomorphic blue bear who constantly criticizes "sexism" in videogames and (of course) men in general. At the end of the day, he would still be getting repeatedly called out for being hostile towards a woman in a conversation (I think she criticized his comic or something like that) and running another webcomic series about a group of lesbian girls where he clearly made them sexualized in a lot of scenes.
Yup, being white has given me such benefits as; being so poor I have creditors hounding me, need around 10k worth of dental work done due to accidents, as well being told I'm the root cause of all evil. Good times and much privilege
i feel like the woke response would be: imagine how much worse those things would be if you went through all that AND were also black.
comparative victimhood is a game with no winners
@@PyrokineticFire1 Well said, I agree. There really is no winner. All that happens is more division by trying to one up each other when we should instead just agree that the past is the past and awful things happened, learn from it, and do better.
Too bad humans seem cyclical and repeat ourselves, just with different flavours, all with the same shitty taste though
"VTuber" who skipped the debut & the streaming part
😂😂😂
Isn't that basically money laundering? A V-tuber is responsible to put out as much content for the viewer's approval and gratification. Without among those things, clout driven people tends to pour as much rotten eggs into the basket to drive away the birds from the nest. (Wasting precious money and the effort into the model and rigging to amplify the V-tweeter's authority of power and insensible anecdotes)
@@PlaystationTaxation69999 I don't think you know what money laundering is. That's when you use a business to run illegal money through so it's now "legal" money
@@CodeeXD I knew the definition of it, its just I used it in the wrong circumstance. (If it was a company that pulls money within illegal intentions and exploits, then my comment will be altered. In that case, my answer is a no, considering that I used the example of V-tweeter instead of a malicious corporation.) Thanks for the correction.
@@PlaystationTaxation69999 Looks like you're thinking about scammers. Money Laundering is the method of making illegally obtained funds seem legitimate. ie, getting a job so it doesn't look strange when an unemployed drug dealer can afford a nice car.
You know I get kinda sick of being called things I'm not or being told I hold privilege over others just because of my skin color.
Telling someone they have white privilege is racist.
Just the concept itself, in my opinion, is racist. It's basically another form of judging someone else by the color of their skin.
Where was my so-called "whit privilege" when I was growing up, hmm?
I find it funny minorities can call white people all sort of horrible things and most people are cool with it because it’s white and they have privilege. I honestly find it bs and those people are the real racist but hide behind their skin color to avoid it and some claim you can’t be racist as a minority which is extra funny.
Also since this is the internet, I’m a minority and myself who hate when people use their race as a clutch for not being able to work for something and want things handed to them.
I'd say I've lived a privileged. Not because of skin color, but because my Dad is a Chad. Moved to this country and made a life here.
I can't not respect the man.
@@Chaos89P Whats worse is that americans being americans project that shit to other country like europe. Those mf dont understand that just because your white skinned doesnt mean you are the same as another white skinned guy.
Like I m the child of two Polish (illegal) immigrants in Belgium. I had fck 0 privilege. Not even white since skin color matters less in european country than nationality and religion lmao
There should be an unspoken law where, if you can prove they accused you of white privilege and you're not privileged, you can cold cock them. Just BAM! Right in the love-me-tenders.
It might not stop it, but it'll make the rest of us feel better.
3:15 When you complain that people asking for “good vibes only” in their community is a problem, you know you’re the kind of person who WANTS to marinate in their own misery a little too long.
First things first: That base looks pretty sweet!
Its always EN VTubers that forget/never understood that a huge reason for why we even watch VTubers is to take our minds off of the real world for a few hours a week/day. Heck, you could apply this to other media too. If I wanted to talk about real world issues, I would do it in the apropriate places with the apropriate people - not with some random anime character online. These people cant separate fantasy from reality, and it only gets worse the more theyre online
Seriously. Just the short clip from them would make me not want to watch not only because it's more stupid twitter anti capitalism stuff as usual but the person just sounds....disinterested and just wanting to push their ideology over wanting to be entertaining.
It's ironic how some of these people are so anti religion yet do nothing but preach
@@fluidwolf the clip is the same thing i honestly can get not just from other people like them, but the people taking the piss out of these types too. "oh, the catholic church"
yeah, like i didn't hear that one in every standup going back over 20 years. or the anti-religious now. or the actually religious who want to say the church is terrible because it's sold itself out. it's nothing interesting.
Got to love that privilege, paying full price for college and having to outscore people by an additional 20% just for admissions because people with my level of melanin makeup make up a majority of the population that wants to go to college. Not to mention having to lawyer up for every little thing if the other person involved even in the most black-and-white * pun not intended* cases like somebody running a red light on my dash cam happens to be a little bit more toasted than I am.
Seems like the opposite of privelage to me
These vtubers wouldn’t survive a mw2 or halo 3 lobby (or 2016 RUclips)
Or a War for Cybertron lobby for that matter... A MW2 or Halo 3 lobby would be terrible.
@@kabob0077 I think only ame and mori could somewhat put up a fighting chance (mori not giving a damn and ame’s handling of toxic players in her stream sometimes) but other than that, no other vtubers would survive those games 💀
Mother of pearl, the teabagging alone would be fatal.
@@gankgoat8334 to bad RUclips censored your comment, that was gold
@@pabcu2507 Pippa and Tenma would probably thrive tbh. Pippa was a Channer iirc and Tenma fucking explodes.
Soooo many tourists nowadays. We need to go back to when you got bullied on high school for liking anime.
At least we didn't have to deal with the wokies and our hobbies were intact.
Someone: Is happy.
Twitter: "Hey, that's illegal."
Sounds like a skill issue LMAO. Maybe if they were actually ENTERTAINING and not miserable losers, they would actually be successful in the industry.
Wow they push positivity when they are trying to entertain people? Even the ones who tend to be super positive will talk big issues if they come up, but usually they just want to vibe because it's nobody else's business what's happening in their lives.
@JackWrath386 Vegeta from TFS: BAN HIM!!!
It is like these people forgot what having a "private life" is suppose to be like.
And honestly this is exactly why I hated Twitter when it became popular in 2012. Like do I really need to know every facet of your life. Smosh made a joke where Twitter was the equivalent of announcing to everyone you took a big dump in the bathroom.
These Vtweeters are essentially doing that, but giving us too much of a view into their disturbed minds.
These people badly needed actually therapy, and especially not from a quack psychiatrist that probably is just feeding them what they want to hear rather than actually addressing the problems.
I think it's prolly not about the vtubers live. but more all the ppl in chat that want to trauma dump and stuff demand the vtubers give attention and pity them or something.
I have an idea. If you don't want to get continuously judged for irrelevant attributes (skin color, sexuality, what not)... consider not making it the main part of your entire personality? Consider being the best "you" that you can be, instead of fishing for sympathy and expecting automatic respect because you're of a specific gender or something?
that would be to difficult for people like this. their entire identity is things like this, and they feel they must always be validated all the time.
people only judge on the gender,skin colore etc when things are going "bad" in the 21 century, some people are still been judge even if they dont make it part of theire personality.
@@soc_rodjean_390 dear God that grammar is atrocious how do I a non native speaker speak better English then someone from an English speaking country it's sad really
@@soc_rodjean_390does that include grammar?
@@fireblade295 can you elaborate on that?
Sometimes I wonder why SJWs keep repeating basic notions such as "sexism is bad" every day as if they were some sort of complex, deeply intellectual hot takes.
Then I see slow people like this Hellspawn Godfather guy and I remember they do it because they're projecting their bigoted past selves onto everyone around them, thinking that coming to the basic realization that "sexism is bad" is somehow difficult for people. The reality is that good, open-minded people come to these realizations on their own.
NPCs dont think
They just repeat the script theyve been programmed to follow
Because the need to feel relevant and intellectual is a basic need to them. It's dumb.
Bold of you to assume it's their past selves and not their current self
💯
replace sjws with leftists and youre on point
One reason other Vtubers are successful if the fact they purposely avoid politics and social commentary. There's nothing wrong with talking about politics, but most people enjoy Vtubers because they don't get political. When you choose to go down the political road you immediately alienate at least 1/2 of your viewer base, and depending on your views, a lot more than that. I understand wanting to use your platform to promote your views and ideas, but don't expect to hold on to fans when you are actively attacking a portion of your possible viewers. Just be clear this goes both ways- extreme left or extreme right. Doesn't matter. Most people are just tired of listening to your shit.
Funnily enough, I imagine most people that claim to be loving life and having a great time have actually experienced tons of hardship. However, they tend to avoid complaining about those hardships (at least publicly) because they understand that hardships are just a part of life and they don't feel the need to seek any validation.
Just as well, just because someone isn't having a terrible life doesn't mean they are suddenly responsible for someone else's terrible time. If someone were to say "Man, my life sucks" they'd probably get some sympathy. However, normal people don't go online and post paragraphs about how other people are suffering while they are not unprompted, which is what a lot of these conversations seem to be implying to me (that they want CIS white people to just post about the sufferings of other people unprompted).
It sounds like these would-be vtubers aren't interested in playing games, cooking, creating art or music and just chillin' back. Instead they're only interested in complaining, preaching their politics, and finding excuses not to do anything.
i mean its obvious that from the start they saw vtubing as just another medium to spread their propaganda
The whole point of Vtubers is that YOU DON'T SEE THE REAL LIFE PERSON, and subsequently their race is also anonymous? 😐
-Actually, the other day I found out what a couple vtubers who I watch look like, and they looked completely different and happened to be different races than you might have thought, but AMAZINGLY I DIDN'T CARE. The only people who do care are those who think that people should be treated differently depending on their outward ethnic appearance....
Remember: This are the same people who bullied vtubers and streamers for playing the Harry Potter game.
And they say if you're a well-known V-tuber, you won't have any problems... No no no! You will just get bullied for playing a wizard game and have your parents get doxxed. Chill. 😌
And the people who watch questionable movies like Drawn Together.
Remember guys, if you see a 🔞 emoji on a VTuber's name, there's an 80% chance they're like this, they'll rant and make the worst takes.
And that 🔞BS is nothing but just a label to get attention.
@@r99azm80 absolutely, thanks to some lewd VTubers, especially Mel who was technically a pioneer they think adding 18+ will bring in attention without realizing that that's not the main selling point, sure you can be lewd but are you entertaining? Do you have anything to offer?
almost all of the people who have 🔞 or “minors dni” in their bio have awful takes
Hero Hei: "I feel like I'm in a nut house right now."
Oh you just noticed? Welcome to Twitter, my friend.
Imagine if Deval said that about Blacks.
Would've been based
When you see a location (real or virtual) called a "space" you know you're dealing with a psycho that can be safely ignored.
Its pretty gross how these things are polluting the VTuber community now. I thought that was VShojo's job.
Just block and mute.
These v-tweeters are a prime example of EVERYTHING that's wrong with Twitter.
Copy paste bot
@@dddaaa6965 Doesn’t look like it to me.
Yep
@@dddaaa6965 Still better than spam links
@@thatemocat Howdy
Aaaaaaand that's exactly why I made my Vtuber a skin color only possible in fantasy. :)
Also I just really like purple.
Honestly that’s just great. What I don’t get is when you can maybe do more fantastical character design, why not? And yes. Purple is just an awesome color.
@@ichigokage Exaaactly, it's such a potential avenue for some really crazy cool designs! I'd model a monster Vtuber if I knew how to use Blender better! Originally I wanted to just straight up be a monster streamer LOL.
I'd l9ve to see this twitwit say something about Kobo
Sorta why gatekeeping is needed :/. What is it with these Vtweeters :/
They are their own worst enemy.
A self correcting problem, hopefully
I appreciate you being so humble and admit this is kinda low hanging fruit. I don't think there's much inherently wrong with making a video on such a goofy Twitter reply section, I got good laughs from it, too. You even respect the people there, too, even if some of these takes give me figurative brain damage trying to understand what they're attempting to say.
Seeing you get excited about your first base made me smile
Remove VTweeters.
TTD.
🎩
🐍 no step on Snek!🇺🇸🇭🇰
Just remove vtubers at this point.
The barrel has been completely poisoned.
Did they even ask if the people in question identify as Cis? I don't, I don't identify as a label.
Never forget, "cis" was from the beginning created by these types of people as a slur first and foremost.
@maxxor-overworldhero6730 You know, there is another funny way to put it. I am white, male and heterosexual. I do not 'identify' as any of the three, I simply 'am' them. I only identify as things I feel label me as a person and don't use the things least important about me to describe myself. I am a Gamer and an Anime Fan.
Hero hei, you know they deleted because of the backlash they knew they would get. People can be stupid when they are on social media. Also they don't understand that you can go through life and not have people be rude to them all of the time because they interact with people with good manners.
It's also not that they attack people Hero Hei because they're homophobic and all of that, and I know you know this already but they attack you because you are right and the things that people with "privilege" say are actually logically sound and are reasonable. I choose to see both sides of a debate and because that's how I learn things but that is how I get people to listen to me before the debate degenerates in to a fight. They just have moral superiority and love to see others miserable because of it.
The reason this conversation seemed to veer so far afield is because it did. After the first couple of tweets, particularly the clown at a mugging metaphor, it veered into how most Vtubers aren’t actively stumping for a Socialist Revolution which naturally makes them part of the “Problem”.
These people always seem to want somebody to start the revolution for them while they do nothing.
Socialists sure do love enemies
I'm already at the point where if I see that flag on a profile or on the model itself, I ignore. I have so many trans friends who are just people and dont make this their identity.
*me looking thru hero hei's wallet for the privilege card* where is it you bastard?! 😝
Bruh, why do some of these vtubers want to cancel themselves with dumb crap like this? Its almost like, they really hate themselves or something.
I've been thinking that Twitter freaks in general are nothing more than loathsome sacks of hatred, at best.
These people dont have proper risk assessment abilities
Theyre the ones that natural selection leaves behind
Society hinders that selection
Oh wonder wonder, they do hate themself otherwise they wouldn't want to change their gender.
That point you made in the last sentence is ironic. If they self-criticizing, due to their ineffectual and misleading behaviors, then they have to pay for the damages they caused and learning the consequences of how it's affecting others.
@@Chaos89P a lot of them have pent up aggression towards things that are not even remotely serious.
At this point I think they're just upset other people are not paying attention to them and their problems 24/7
they don't have any problems
@@dibberz-v1z they are just depressed and bored.
A true first world problem.
I grow up in poverty, and i still live on the poor end of the financial side. My entire life i was living in poor social conditions. Seeing people trying to gaslight us that that we have it better just because our skin color despite all the terrible thing I and many others went through is disgusting. Our family home nearly collapsed on us but guess I'm privileged because I'm white. I went to schools, with nothing in my stomach, driving a bycikle 20km daily, but i guess i had it easy because I'm white. The most annoying part about this entire thing is that the people calling us privileged, are always some rich spoiled mf from U.S or U.K
Another day, another vtuber ruining her career. At this point, it's like they're trying to see who can ruin their career first. 😂
@JackWrath386 Vegeta from TFS: BAN HIM!!!
*Get woke, go broke-speedrun.*
funny of you to assume she even had a career in the first place lol
This is obviously a dude
Being brown and bisexual, I am sure I could rant for awhile about shit like that "if" I was a vtuber.
Good thing I have an "old fashioned" job, that's Monday-Friday eight hours a day so I can spend my hard earned money on my hobbies, what ever they may be and not give a crap about what others think about what I do.
"Yeah I should've worded this tweet better."
Or you could've just, you know, not said anything?
You expect these kinds of people to keep their mouth shut?
Impossible.
That twitter thread: Troon attacks normal people, other troons and troon adjacents join in and cheer the troon on.
...we are doomed as a society
we can save it if we ban people under 16 years old from internet and ban the twitard activists "teachers" from school
Talking about how capitalism sucking when the only reason that Vtuber models can exist is because capitalism has given it a market to thrive in.
What are you even talking about? I’m sure when the communist Revolution takes hold the new government will have a department specifically for diverse and inclusive Vtubers to work at
True, legit VTuber models are expensive too, they're not cheap which is expected for art of that quality but it's hypocritical AF.
After going through those threads it reminds me of forums a decade back. I see the same talking points of the people that invaded gaming, table top and nearly every other form of entertainment. These people are political activists who care little for hobbies and just invade them to take them over and kick out the people originally in it. For them, everything is about power. Gate keep your hobbies folks.
How can you tell someone's sexuality or skin color by their vtuber avatar or voice?
😑 to this day I fail to comprehend the "privileged" concept for the sole reason that after hearing what it is, making correlations to the actuality, and then saying that you see a privilege that isn't "white privilege" you get called either a racist, sexist, transphobe, ect...
You can't say how good your experience in a space is? Is it an obligation now to add ''but others don't have it good''??? What the hell? The miserable want others to be miserable, not a surprise.
Cis? Oh she mean the normal person who ofc aware of their gender
You mean "he", but yeah. "Cis" is in reality nothing more than a slur they came up with.
Grab the popcorn 🍿
And I can't wait until they bitch and moan and kiwifarm documents at all so we can hear about how Josh Moon these people are retarded on his MATI.
Demon / WifeWolf…
What did you expect to read after that? 😂
We are beginning to reach tumblr levels of insanity from the time porn was still allowed there - now on Twitter.
It is still going on on that thing called a website.
The Dark Web?
Where do you think half of Tumblr migrated too in the first place most of this crap like harrasment doxing campaign's cancelling people
Can be pretty much blames on Tumblr is where all this crap came from
Tumblr banning porn ruined the internet
twitter has been like this since 2018
This feels like "How dare people be happy and kind to eachother! Don't they know they are evil?"
I think... The top 10 first VTubers are actually Japanese... Like... KizunAI or Mirai Akari... So IDK what are they talking about.
Asian privilege
Don’t you know? East-Asians are considered Honkies now.
Fun note, Asians get lumped into white privilege claims when it suits those making the accusation. I see it happen way too often. If you point out statistics that show it's actually Asians who get favored in things (college entry was one of those at one point before colleges started discriminating against them for the sake of equity), they say their actually white too.
People who claim that something is purely due to race in this day and age are people who fail to consider any other possibility and are usually racist themselves. Race shouldn't be an issue at this point, but if we can find things that are blatantly racist, we do need to fix that. However, privilege claims are too ambiguous and do nothing to actually find and fix any sort of problems that might exist.
Gura is Japanese?!!
I'm still waiting for that membership card in the mail as well as a list of benefits on top of where to cash them in. Guess it got lost or something.
Not entirely sure about this, but doesn't your personality dictate the kind of community you attract?
Someone’s covered a take by Deval(Demon/WifeWolf) before, I recognize the picture. Feels like it’s been from a while ago though
Yep because my grand parents who grew up in poverty and worked their asses off to give my parents (who still grew up in poverty) a good life and then in turn they did the same for me and my sister is somehow a white privelage thing. I swear if someone ever told me that irl i'd probably land in jail.
why do these people assume that every community must be racist in some form to minorities or something, like do they think its not possible to have a community that isn't racist? The entire point of vtubing it to have your own character you act as instead of using yourself as the basis, like people shouldn't know what your skin color is if you are doing it correctly.
Ok what's with the trend of these warriors trying to be vtubers? So what if you're vtuber. You will be treated the same way as a regular streamer. You don't get special treatment. And that these people want is just special treatment and they throw a tantrum when they don't get it.
They choose to be vtubers because they are not attractive people
i actually seen deval streams before so this surprised me to see this
5:43 I think he kinda sunk that ship before it could even set sail XD dude calling the vtuber community transphobic but wants to be a vtuber. Hate to say it but there’s no community in existence that like it when the people they’re fans of start calling them names and saying they’re transphobic.
They did it with the saints row remake, they did it with forspoken, there’s also vtuber who have done it aswell. Didn’t go well for any of them
I think my brain fried during this one. Dial-up sounds kept running in my head.
"Most gay people I know you couldn't tell they're gay" It's almost as if someone's sexuality doesn't have to be their entire identity and there's more to them as a person.
Noooo I’m still waiting for my privilege card!
That rant was so confusing it made my stomach hurt
"It's like [they're] trying to say something, I know it!"
Dont worry, theyre more confused than you
how many time do we teach you old man!
Edit: holy hell that charity money already! if i didnt give a lot to kika (kids cancer/ clini clowns in the netherlands) i would help you! keep up the damn good work!
That transphobia remake doesn't make sense given how many guys are using female avatars, some with voice changers and some without and are not treated any more poorly than anyone else.
i mean if you look at all those peoples bio's and it explain a lot how they think and what kinda problems they got
Gee, how privileged I am, constantly struggling to keep financial stability in my life so I don't have to live with family. Gee, I'm so privileged that I still don't even have a car, yet! 😃
That's literally 80% of us 😂
White Privileges my arse.
Lmao.... Dude.... Magical entities 🤣🤣🤙
*These people need to be gatekept out.*
I mean this with all due love and understanding. I myself am on the autism spectrum.
My pet theory at the moment is that, as some have noted, there is a correlation between autism spectrum, and tending to not identify readily with the standard gender norms. And there seems to also be correlation with autism spectrum and transness -- there is not 100% overlap by any stretch, just a higher-than average correlation is all, by however many percentage point I don't know.
And folks on the autism spectrum tend to have a big "justice" angle for how they see and react to the world. We tend to go off about things that don't sit right with us. I wonder how much of these disagreeable social justice takes are from folks literally on the autism spectrum.
From what I know of autism, and my own experience, yeah we do tend to go off about stuff and have some added difficulty with perspective-taking to see the damage or hurt our strong reactions could cause before getting into them... Add to that some anonymity and the ease of reaching people (online discourse/twitter) leads to these bad takes being seen by a lot of people very quickly.
The other bit of it is, I would think being trans can be a really painful experience at the worst times. Pain makes it hard to have the patience to deal with other people's perspectives, especially people who feel like they're still antagonizing you on an ongoing basis... It becomes easier to just be upset and harder to take a balanced perspective, and I sympathize with that to some extent.
Who here has never posted a wrong take, or something we changed our mind on after posting? I'd be surprised if anyone did.
And It's not that these issues don't matter. It's that we're not all experts and we can all be wrong from time to time. Sometimes the anger is misplaced because the premise of the argument just falls apart.
I do think it's important to think through whether an argument is actually productive, and not just randomly talk into the void on your social account, otherwise whoever reads it will just get weary and tired rather than learning anything. Eh. Unless you clearly label your post as just venting or whatever. At which point do pretty much whatever you want. But at some point a random tweeter with a bad take just needs to get ignored. We all have bad takes now and again. I just wish this sort of these aimless and vague "find someone who is doing privilege wrong" stuff wasn't so common, and honestly so lazily thought through sometimes.
Moral of the story: Think before you tweet, I guess. But also: Ignore the trolls, sometimes people just make questionable posts.
"Some of the gayest people I know, you wouldn't be able to tell..."
Got a friend like that. Took me 2 years to figure it out. Though in hindsight, the love of pop music and corndogs should have clued me in sooner.
Pressed the video when its published time was 5 minutes
How are they blaming white privilege on a niche of the market that you are encouraged to not show yourself? My head hurts. 😫
Congrats on reaching the charity donation goal. 🎉🎊👍
Funny, all I hear is "I'm going to blame my failures in life on discrimination despite the fact I don't experience actual discrimination". Uh.
This reminds me of a south park episode where randy marsh takes a ancestry test and makes out with a native American for his ancestry test.
So... these tweeters are really dead set on rejecting the idea of vtubing being a place for everyone _(regardless of who you are & what you believe)_ to escape all the political/ideological nonsense & just have some fun, huh?
Looks like it. Time to gatekeep.
Evil can only corrupt after all
Everything about this thing's Twitter, Tweet, and design just scream "yikes" lol