"YOUR WELCOME" with Michael Malice
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- Опубликовано: 2 апр 2024
- Michael Malice (“YOUR WELCOME”) welcomes author and political science researcher, Richard Hanania, onto the podcast to share his thoughts on the multi-layered pro-life debate, how wokeness blinds people from fundamental issues, and why hit-pieces often tell you that you’re doing something right.
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Richard took questions from supporters exclusively at malice.locals.com/post/5472233/richard-took-your-questions
Hello Michael,
I'm glad I came across your channel a few days ago. (Probably because I'm new to Austin.)
I find your background, knowledge and courage ideal to eloquently speak to the good, the bad and the worse across topics. I just subscribed.
Thank you for the effort you put into creating helpful and realistic content.
🔥 P.S. I noticed your ad on men's underwear. You might want to be more specific about how helpful the "compartments" are for men. This way women buy them for the men in their life. (I got your subtle comment about it *only* because my brother explained it years ago after he embarrassed me - to the core - when he kept moving and touching himself in a funny way --- in public!)
schulz ran a hitpiece on shapiro
5 minutes in and my BS detector broke the needle.
which way to arrange the collectivist deck chairs. geez this is like talking about dating as if it's not permanently over.
After a few minutes its crystal clear that Hanania cannot be taken seriously.
The guy is a fool.
The contradicting logic is too pervasive
Malice: People always talk past each other on abortion.
Hanania: Proceeds to assert hedonistic utilitarianism as if it's facially evident.
Mr Hanania has crazy in his eyes.
I see that as well. It’s usually a good indicator of crazy.
His eyes are crazy/intriguing 🤷🏻♀️
“I like Turtles” kid all growed up.
those are beautiful eyes, aren't they?
Looks like he dyes his eyelashes…. Probably why his eyes are a sharp contrast. Had an ex bf, VERY metro sexual…. who used to do the same thing.
When someone makes a difference between taxation and theft, because the latter is destructive, he kind of is finished as a thinker for me.
I stole from a millionaire to buy my kid formula. It this taxation or theft?
This simple hypothetical would destroy him.
@g_r9567 good question to smoke it out
When the interest on the debt is more than we take in in taxes, that's probably too much, lol
Hanania strikes me as a man who glows in the dark after the skeletons in his closet were put on the table
Take a shot every time Michael giggles with his hand covering his mouth.
tehehehe
Hey come on, maybe he identifies as an East Asian broad?
You want people to get cirrhosis?
Alcohol Poisoning: The Game
I get Malice’s attack on the “Hitler was a leftist” Boomer narrative, BUT if you look into his policies and actions you’ll see that Nazism was a socialism based on race, not class. I didn’t watch TIK History’s 5hour video on this topic just to have it be boiled down to “lol boomer argument”
He’d be a great guest for the podcast
Some food for thought: (nomnomnom 🧠 )
Hayek called Nazism: conservative socialism in Road to Serfdom. Socially conservative and economically socialist.
In Conflict of Visions Sowell argues that Nazism takes elements from both the unconstrained (typically leftish) and constrained (typically rightish) visions.
I wouldn’t call Nazism extreme right (where are property rights?) but also not extreme left either (socially very conservative)
Also watched some of Tiks material on this and defo don’t disagree with his (and your!) points and would be a great guest indeed.
Have a good day Jimmy!
@@StheSharknl when it comes to social matters though would that make all authoritarians “conservative”? In North Korean women and men are only allowed to have certain hairstyles, thats definitely not a “liberal” thing sure, but does that now make Kim Jong Un right wing and conservative?
I just personally think that when it comes to social matters the “left v right” dynamic doesn’t work. At that point it becomes “Authoritarian v Libertarian”
Don’t get me wrong I still love Hayek I just disagree with this point
@@13StJimmy I think you could look at it as authoritarian/libertarian and progressive/conservative 2 by 2. Part of the messaging in the Bolshevik revolution was quite progressive for example (gender stuff).
Great point though, I wouldn’t call North Korea right wing ofc haha but definitely partly conservative which I think is inherent in a dictatorship. They want to conserve their power / safeguard the status quo. The Nzs wanted to return to the historical past of the superior race etc. But economically/politically definitely a bunch of dirty statists cucks
Never liked Hanania much. His criticisms of the right aren't compelling usually and he comes off like David French.
I'm genuinely concerned I may have contracted Autism after watching this interview.
Was this released on April 1st?
I’m not sure how one goes “too far” with a child’s safety car seat.
We they still have to sit in one while driving themselves to school
Car seats have expiration dates now. And kids have to sit in one until they're 8
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An expiration date on a car seat does seem a bit ridiculous.
Good point.
auron has far more cred than this guy does.
The painter from Austria was a high ranking member of two separate short lived soviet governments in Bavaria. TIKHistory did a video about it.
"Social context" doesn't determine human value, biology does. Using arbitrary social factors as a benchmark for determining whether abortion is a valid practice or not is nothing short of economic eugenics.
“How dare they refer to us as eugenists” say those who commonly support abortion depending on genetic conditions and economic circumstances!!!!!
"That's like people shouldn't write gossip stories as long as there are starving children in Yemen." How about people shouldn't write gossip stories about people that are poorly reasoned and baseless?
The pro-life argument is that we never excuse the intentional killing of an innocent human being in any other context. The key is innocent - which nobody doubts in the abortion case. We also dont divide human beings based on value: history has shown what a mess that's been.
"Doctor says you can off yourself"
Michael Malice: Okay, I see your point, that's valid.
As someone who actually had an attempt, f Richard so much
Nasally fucks
He mentioned as teenager he was suicidal, according to his logic he wouldn’t be alive today especially in Canada
Stealing has more redeeming qualities than taxes.
Tupperware or something else?
In regards to Abortion, it just seems like Mr. Hanania wants to have his cake and eat it too. The idea that killing an 8 week old unborn child is either murder, or totally acceptable, based solely on whether the mother wants the child is incoherent.
“Voters matter” is one of the most absurd things ive heard on this show
I really want to thank you for introducing me to so many off-beat and interesting thinkers. Stuck here in New Zealand, I doubt I would ever hear about most of your cool guests, otherwise.
The eye thing has yet to fail
Congrats on getting Richard Hulkamania!
I hate when every one of someone's ideas blatantly won't scale in any realistic sense and there's no implication or small afterthought that it matters the most if you want any utility outside projecting yourself
If I close my eyes, Richard sounds like a young Steven Pinker.
It made so happy to hear someone agree with me, there is way too many years of schooling. I have been thinking this for decades. Adding schooling years started as a intentional government policy level after WW l l, before that it was used as a bar to entry to some professions.
Hanania looks like he’s been on the cannibal diet for a few years
Came for the conversation, stayed for the eyelashes 👍
He is gorgeous.
I literally just heard of Klaus Nomi for the first time today and Michael has his tuxedo as a collectible and mentions it on the same day.
If you listened to more Scarling. You would know Klaus Nomi
Is that the terrifier?
“It’s like people who say taxation is theft. All about definitions”…. He says to Michael malice. Where was the argument that working from definitions is problematic?
Using a coherent, Socratic approach is kryptonite to sophists
I think it's kinda baseline that you can't define away the problem. At some point, you do get to discuss competing values.
@@Oatriumph which can't happen if you're argument is denying the nature of the thing. Human life and theft have definitions both of which Hanania can't deal with.
@@lukenick2299 "Life" is vague. It's one of the first things most of us learned in basic biology. It's not always simple. I read a great article by a Christian lawyer on the abortion issue. One specific point in the article is the "life begins at conception" isn't really accurate. The sperm and egg are both "living" and are certainly human, so life actually "begins" prior to conception.
But that's kinda my specific point here is that there is no middle ground for the abortion issue anymore because on group wants to define it as murder. They don't want to talk about it, just stop it and prosecute it. If we could talk about issues without trying to outdefine our opponents, we may have a better discussion.
@@Oatriumph no one is doing that. But one side wants to play semantics.
Human life is human life. A blurry line does not invalidate any distinction. You can play games about the definitions of a dog and a horse all you want.
Pro life isn’t trying to win on a definition. They’re very clear on the moral principle and their definitions.
The other side wants to try and hide behind being vague. They won’t have courage for their conviction.
“I don’t believe all human life should have human rights” is their position but they won’t own it.
Hello Michael,
I'm glad I came across your channel a few days ago. (Probably because I'm new to Austin.)
I find your background, knowledge and courage ideal to eloquently speak to the good, the bad and the worse across topics. I just subscribed. 😎🖖
Thank you for the effort you put into creating helpful and realistic content.
welcome!!
You are welcome !
Thank you, @@microsoftpain !
Thank you, @@coreybruyere2371 !
This was a great conversation thanks Michael!!!
Freedom within hard borders. No contradiction.
My mother was pro choice until she was pregnant with me. I was kind of an oops baby. She had friends that tried to pressure her into ending the pregnancy. They used it as birth control and these were women who already had kids. They thought nothing of it. She was so disgusted she became a hard core pro lifer. I am not but I think it should be limited and more women I meet hate even the idea of having kids in general.
Women in general have no inherent moral values apart from Utilitarianism. Especially without societal pressure.
I like the way Richard pronounces the word err correctly
Couldn’t make it half way through.
I don’t usually leave comments but this guy is one of those people says a lot but doesn’t really make a point.
He clearly demonstrates that he doesn’t understand any of the arguements for and against abortions and euthanasia.
If how I fundamentally see you is dependent upon social context….not good for you. It’s better for everyone that people like me think you have value because of an “image of God” belief.
much love all
I like the guy more than I expected.
in Poland DNR is actually mandatory for all paramedics when they're dealing with a cancer patient
Or a Lizard….. run Michael runnnnnnn
The two sematic join forces.
1:00:00 When I was unhappy I was a Communist/Fascist, now that I'm happy I'm a libertarian.
He says conflating taxation and theft is wrong but then says murdering a innocent baby and giving a murderer the death penalty is the same thing. A little hypocritical.
Did he say drug legalization works? Have you been reading about Portland Oregon?
I don't like this person. For one, it looks like he's using an ethot filter, but then some of the things he said really bug me. He said back when he was depressed he might have taken the suicide pill. But that's kind of the point. He was depressed, and now he's not. People come through this stuff. Then with abortion, he brings up that we don't value life always, war, self defense... Then goes on to say we also value quality of life... But we don't go around killing people to improve our quality of life. His argument was not just lacking, but repulsive.
Exactly
Reminds me of another fast talker that passes as smart, little Ben?
Better you than me Michael. Didn't make it too deep into this one. Does that make me close minded?
🔥 I noticed your ad on male underwear. You might want to be more specific about how helpful the "compartments" are for men. This way women buy them for the men in their life. (I got your subtle comment about it *only* because my brother explained it years ago after he embarrassed me - to the core - when he kept moving and touching himself in a funny way --- in public!)
@@steakeater4018 oh shit really?!
He's a discount destiny
Also.... Are you drinking wine out of dietCoke cans?
Bio-Leninism sounds like Steve Job's concept of a "bozo explosion" within companies.
We will never bet a country that has a market for euthanasia. Pharmaceutical company’s and hospitals are way too powerful and they want to have customers for as long as possible. We keep wayyyyyyy too many people alive past when we should it’s super un ethical but for some reason keeping people alive at all cost is the slippery slope we are on.
Alot of these ppl, or their family could refuse the measures taken to “keep them alive”.
It doesn't matter what's about to happen. Michael Malice is America's best friend
Michael Malice is the same age as alex jones!
No
Alex Jones isn't even 50, he just looks old, and has for the past 20 years. I think Malice is older. Like mid 50s.
@@nesne2167 Jones is 50 as of this year. Malice is late 40s.
Taxation isn't theft? Nice, we can stop enforcing it then.
26:20 Amazing arguments
- We shouldn't have slaves, black people have human rights too
- I mean, you can play the "definitions" game but...
Wow this guys take on euthanasia is terrifying. Guy is suspicious
he's in favor of eugenics
Big Mike new this was a disaster from the jump
Turns out youre not a person if your parents dont want you 🤷♂️ who knew?
Very poor reasoning on the abortion issue. In this guy‘s view, a woman can make a statement that she doesn’t want her unborn, baby, and at that moment the life loses all value. Very odd
That‘s what‘s effectively happing right now.
@@rudi5139 Yep. Was discussing this with my wife. She has friends who are pro choice, but also had a miscarriage, and then gave out bands with the babies name on it, and organized a charity because of it. I said to her, I can't get on board with it either being a tragedy, or absolutely nothing, based completely on whether the baby was wanted or not.
In 2024 only women are basically deciding who deserves to live. True gynocracy!
I find it annoying how Hanania is using libertarian values to attack stances that are more associated with nationalism.
To add to this he likes to point out contradictions while completely ignoring the nuance. It’s what makes him an annoying Twitter follow, because it feels as if he’s impression farming or something
Who's Dim Fool? My brother keeps talking about him?
I believe that is a reference to Tim Pool.
@@evasionhunter who's that?
once he said we value human life a little too much I was out. euthanasia is a slippery slope. I understand having the free will to take your own life but at what point does it become your civil obligation to make sure you don't live too long because you are more of a cost than a benefit?. Old people will start to be treated like low level employees at a big corporation
Do they talk about the brutal beating he took at the hands of Yarvin? I don’t understand why people think this guy is smart. He isn’t dumb but he isn’t saying anything novel. Kinda just another mid.
You'd have to be pretty mid to get beaten by Yarvin.
Not sure why this guy is getting so much hate in the comments here. He appears to loathe the political brands and over- reaching govts and has common sense points on a lot of things. Just because the guy may lean a little left culturally doesnt mean he is supports elitism.
Perry Farrell's handsome younger brother?
I was thinking Harry Melling’s half brother
I used to think Richard's thoughts were interesting. "If someone wants to do the job cheaper and is better at the job" ... Who fits this category? Cheaper and better? He doesnt understand the modern blue economy. Maybe he's advocating for outsourcing jobs to China, that's what it sounds like
My friend.
I just disagree. Life should be protected, right up until that life is dangerous- be it at a week or at 35yrs
Women don‘t want to ruin their body/life for bad genetic material.
You may not like it, but that‘s the position of most women. What are you going to do about it?
I'm not white pilled. I'm not black pilled. I kinda don't give a shit anymore - and I really want chicken wings. Is that considered grey pilled?
I believe you are Grill Pilled good sir.
The sauce is the boss in that case
Grease pilled I guess.
The serious answer is the Clear Pill
He the male equivalent of AOC
All I know about this guy is that based twitter hates him, if his entire substack is just like these weird shilly "it's not 100% bad thing, its probably closer to the opposite of bad thing, so dont worry about it" arguments he keeps making, then no wonder
does he have makeup around the eyes?
This was the worst guest in quite some time
dave rubin was just on last week
@hallucinus3523 ah right. I intentionally skipped that one and forgot about it.
So it’s only a child(baby)….if it’s a planned pregnancy. Got it. Smh
The problem with Richard's entire world view is that's essentially a liberal (democatic) one with a few caveats. He even says he doesn't really take consequences of his views into account, favoring the more libertarian perspective. What the left does is build a world view around their opinion that no other society is better than another and we HAVE TO have equal outcomes whether you like it or not. He's basically taking this world view from a libertarian perspective but then seemingly at random chooses issues to be more conservative on. There's no binding principle to any of it, including libertarianism. It was a weird one to listen to.
I just cant with this individual.
I think Chris Cantwel is still an anarchist, he's just also really racist.
That is sad this guest would literally rather die then be a teen again, this dude needs Jesus
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Who could've foreseen that the guy who looks like a high schooler who does nothing but sniff their own farts, constantly talked out of their ass about thing the Right (and Auron) are correct on.
“siloized”? How about just “siloed”?
Childs car seats? Wtf am I listening to
The more I hear from libertarians...😧
Hanania looks too much like the University of Idaho killer.
Does he still believe in IQ differences between races?
His abortion argument is a joke... I was hoping for something better.
Cant standja
Richard is cute..
Ew
I made it 25 minutes. This person is terrible.
Sorry Malice, this is your worst guest so far. Either he doesn’t interview well, or he’s just fast talker that sounds smart. I keep hearing word salad, very hard to listen.
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Clever and original!
This guy isn't right of center.
For the record, while Scott Alexander sometimes likes to imply he's libertarian when talking about specific issues, he definitely isn't isn't in general. He writes some excellent stuff, but he's not principled or interested/believing in small government as a default.