LBC caller insists she's 'not privileged' despite sending child to private school

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  • Опубликовано: 22 ноя 2024

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  • @Lewisgrahamdodd
    @Lewisgrahamdodd 20 дней назад +115

    Doesn't the fact they can afford to hire such an expensive lawyer kinda prove the point the government are making?

    • @paul8161
      @paul8161 15 дней назад +1

      Money talks.

    • @findstephen70
      @findstephen70 14 дней назад

      @@paul8161only if you choose to listen, it’s not compulsory & saying no to it is easy if it’s for the right reason.

  • @percymacdonald6657
    @percymacdonald6657 20 дней назад +316

    The real winners of this budget were the tiny violin makers 🎻

    • @JasonEwing-x1q
      @JasonEwing-x1q 20 дней назад +4

      Fantastic and very funny 😂😂😂

    • @peterb5
      @peterb5 20 дней назад +3

      Shame, I thought it’d be the toolmakers and nurses in one of the big London hospitals 😂

    • @zacharygilbert6401
      @zacharygilbert6401 20 дней назад

      😂😂😂 well said sir

    • @RightSnowflake-p6y
      @RightSnowflake-p6y 19 дней назад +1

      After she gave all the pocket money to one of your siblings?

    • @RightSnowflake-p6y
      @RightSnowflake-p6y 19 дней назад +2

      Did she have to pay VAT on those essentials or did she get a tax break like the private schools?

  • @growlingleapard7868
    @growlingleapard7868 20 дней назад +226

    The answer to this could be to have a rule.All children of MPs must attend state school

    • @Flippant-j5d
      @Flippant-j5d 20 дней назад +28

      About as likely as politicians fighting in wars lol.

    • @GregOrCreg
      @GregOrCreg 20 дней назад +9

      Unfortunately, a lot already do, BUT they send them to selective schools or schools in 'nice catchment areas'. They also tend to pay for private tutors or use their political influence and Parent/Governor Association status, to get their kids into the better state schools.
      I also know a few Labour Party colleagues, including would-be councillors, who send their kids to grammar schools.
      Private schools are only half the issue.

    • @gillianwhitby7442
      @gillianwhitby7442 20 дней назад +1

      Especially if they have the same education I had between 1947 until 1958 along with all my friends who were able to hand write clearly, spell and knew about apostophies, commas and hyphens! Maybe not used by hand anymore but the knowledge is there for life! And my parents didn't have to pay for that!

    • @bensolo2000
      @bensolo2000 20 дней назад +2

      No it won't, if they send kids to private schools they will pay vat too????

    • @GregOrCreg
      @GregOrCreg 20 дней назад +4

      @@gillianwhitby7442 You're not exceptional. I attended secondary school in the 90s, and I appreciate the correct use of punctuation.

  • @blazzz13
    @blazzz13 20 дней назад +132

    In order to "prioritise funds" you need to be earning above a certain threshold anyway. Someone on minimum wage can prioritise all they like, but they ain't affording £3k per term per child.

    • @nate9198
      @nate9198 20 дней назад +7

      18k per year is the average per child

    • @mwd331
      @mwd331 20 дней назад +9

      It's a lot more than £3k!

    • @PLl-jr8xi
      @PLl-jr8xi 20 дней назад +7

      So everyone should live like the poor,? instead of aspiring for more.. they should just be dragged down..? People need to stop looking I'm other people's pockets.

    • @joelbenson5322
      @joelbenson5322 20 дней назад +25

      @@PLl-jr8xi No they just shouldn’t complain when private schools have to pay VAT as it’s ridiculous that institutions that educate statistically the most financially privileged in our society get a tax break

    • @frogandspanner
      @frogandspanner 20 дней назад +20

      @@PLl-jr8xi The rich got their wealth by dipping into the pockets of the poor.

  • @Human_Herbivore
    @Human_Herbivore 20 дней назад +74

    The quality of the education anyone gets should never depend upon ability to pay.

    • @marcuskingstanley9522
      @marcuskingstanley9522 20 дней назад +3

      you have just uttered a nonsense that doesnt stand up to reasoning. And what is to be gained by holding people back?

    • @PatrickLee-h1y
      @PatrickLee-h1y 20 дней назад +2

      And what do you think that University education ( indoctrination),is?

    • @PatrickLee-h1y
      @PatrickLee-h1y 20 дней назад +2

      The problem with having a standard for all is, that generally becomes set at the lowest common denominator.

    • @Human_Herbivore
      @Human_Herbivore 20 дней назад +7

      @marcuskingstanley9522 having anything essential like education, healthcare etc, involve a profit motive is what always drives down quality for most.

    • @Human_Herbivore
      @Human_Herbivore 20 дней назад +5

      @PatrickLee-h1y higher education should also be available to everyone.

  • @Justinian-IV
    @Justinian-IV 20 дней назад +170

    Christ my tiny violin has been busy since the budget. As an aside, TAX THE CHURCH!

    • @lionguardant5468
      @lionguardant5468 20 дней назад +2

      The church IS taxed?

    • @dogzero1
      @dogzero1 20 дней назад +16

      @@lionguardant5468 Well tax it more until it goes away.

    • @Warbaman
      @Warbaman 19 дней назад +5

      ​@@ronnygibbon no one should be exempt from tax, ever.

    • @verystripeyzebra
      @verystripeyzebra 18 дней назад +4

      ​@@lionguardant5468they are exempt from many taxes.
      Exclusions apply to institutions which are for religious, educational, or charitable purposes.

    • @nameunavailable-gp3ot
      @nameunavailable-gp3ot 17 дней назад

      ​@@lionguardant5468no its not?

  • @Alex-cw3rz
    @Alex-cw3rz 20 дней назад +30

    Interesting fact private school fees have gone up 55% rise in school fees since 2003, well outstripping inflation. Yet for some reason there was no complaint.

    • @nickydietrich5924
      @nickydietrich5924 17 дней назад +3

      Ahhh now that is interesting.

    • @kemalistdevrimturkaydnlanm168
      @kemalistdevrimturkaydnlanm168 14 дней назад +1

      @@Alex-cw3rz it’s not the same as paying 20 percent more over night. It’s not the same when we already paying 10 percent for the state education which we don’t use. Now we lay 30 percent to state education. I complain about the tax free islands the government run. Do you complain about that? Do you complain about the king charging millions of pounds rent from public services? I do.

  • @darv65
    @darv65 20 дней назад +83

    They are businesses , End of story

    • @PaulaK385
      @PaulaK385 20 дней назад

      Most are charities. Typical ignorant socialist!

    • @deco2132
      @deco2132 20 дней назад +1

      So are GP's surgeries

    • @LiamMorris5
      @LiamMorris5 19 дней назад +3

      They’re not, they are charities. A very small minority are for-profit. Do your research.

    • @Deomnibusdubitandum274
      @Deomnibusdubitandum274 17 дней назад

      So is Tesco and kids clothes are exempt from VAT

  • @Tall_Paul_On_Bikes
    @Tall_Paul_On_Bikes 20 дней назад +64

    Meanwhile sales in tiny violins have increased exponentially.

  • @iandodds3218
    @iandodds3218 20 дней назад +58

    I honestly can't get why the few can't understand that the education of their children is a choice they make. i don't have children, but i still pay tax. My tax helps pay for other people's children to be educated. I haven't a choice in this, they pay tax, and now they will have to pay 20% VAT on what, in my opinion, is a luxury, ultimately that is a choice. I may have gotten the wrong end of the stick, but i didn't think i have.

    • @claudiafigueiredo4979
      @claudiafigueiredo4979 20 дней назад +1

      They don't get is the same as tories preaching about 2 child cap

    • @iandodds3218
      @iandodds3218 20 дней назад +2

      @claudiafigueiredo4979 but why should the taxpayers pay for anyone to have more than 2 kids if you can't afford them, Don't have them

    • @RightSnowflake-p6y
      @RightSnowflake-p6y 19 дней назад

      Why should we pay for winter fuel allowance. If you can’t afford it turn off the heating.

    • @carolewynn9407
      @carolewynn9407 19 дней назад

      People don't realise that this spplies to special needs schools , with a real detrimental impact.

    • @carolewynn9407
      @carolewynn9407 19 дней назад

      ​@@RightSnowflake-p6y The older generation paid for your education, medical, ( vaccines etc) dental and optical health.

  • @Cossieuk
    @Cossieuk 20 дней назад +22

    The median household income is around £34500 per year. This is after tax, NI and council tax are paid according to the IFS. So 50% of households are below this figure.
    You would still have to pay all other living expense after this
    The average Private school fee in the UK is around £16000 a year.
    If after paying all of the bills you still have £16000 left a year to pay for private education for 1 child you are privileged. If you have more than 1 child in private school then you are very privileged.

    • @Jim90117
      @Jim90117 20 дней назад

      I love the conflation that if you work really hard in life and sacrifice alot of things to have money left over that makes you privileged.

    • @Cossieuk
      @Cossieuk 20 дней назад +11

      @@Jim90117 A yes because people who cant afford it dont work hard and dont sacrifice anything.
      If after paying all your bills you still have £16000 a year left to pay for private school then yes you are privileged.

    • @1violalass
      @1violalass 15 дней назад

      @@Cossieuk But it doesn't follow that all who send their children to private schools are privileged (some schools are cheaper, some people get bursaries etc).

    • @kemalistdevrimturkaydnlanm168
      @kemalistdevrimturkaydnlanm168 14 дней назад

      @@Cossieuk we pay one salary to the school, we pay 20 percent tax for the state sector as currently each individual pays 10 percent tax for state education. We don’t use this service and we also save the tax payer I believe 6k each year by not using state sector. Now the government wants another 20 percent tax from our low income households. How is this fair to you where the King and other privileged people don’t pay inheritance, corporation, stamp duty and income taxes. They have a right to not to declare how much voluntary personal income tax? Where the government runs tax free islands? Please let me know, how is this fair ?

    • @thommcfarlane5456
      @thommcfarlane5456 12 дней назад

      It's not fair... Neither is the ability to pay for a better education. None of it is fair. Pay your Tax. 👍

  • @cheryllcooper
    @cheryllcooper 20 дней назад +75

    Private schools have consistently put up their prices every year but no-one complained. As soon as the government want to raise the standards of the many and the SEND funding there are the loudest few that try and stop it. Why? I work in a crumbling school and we have had to let go of 3 TAs this year. We need the money. Pay the tax and help us.

    • @canavan85
      @canavan85 20 дней назад +8

      How much has gone overseas to fund endless wars we aren’t in but gotta raise taxes to pay for things we need. Makes great sense

    • @lloydspencer9348
      @lloydspencer9348 20 дней назад +8

      The parents currently pay twice for their children's education, if they move their children to a state school you pay (assuming you have ever paid any tax) for their children's education and they stop subsidising you (if you had a state education).

    • @KiwisDownUnder
      @KiwisDownUnder 20 дней назад +3

      @@canavan85 Oh look over there....

    • @canavan85
      @canavan85 20 дней назад

      @@KiwisDownUnder 🥱

    • @PaulaK385
      @PaulaK385 20 дней назад

      You won't get it. But They have to fund the illegal immigrants somehow!
      This is pure spite

  • @Thai.Farang
    @Thai.Farang 20 дней назад +99

    If she herself has been privately educated, then she should request a refund.
    She reckons that 30% equates to 1 in 4. Alright love.

    • @ScruffyTubbles
      @ScruffyTubbles 20 дней назад

      Mmmmmm... worrying. Only 35 years ago there'd also have been proper professional exams to smoke out these people and ensure they failed- across the board, in Law, Accountancy, Insurance, Surveying etc.

    • @callum9999
      @callum9999 19 дней назад +1

      @@ScruffyTubbles Your lack of incredibly basic critical thinking is more worrying. She doesn't "reckon 1 in 4 is 30%", she simply rounded for convenience. As people do all the time.
      She's a typical self-absorbed over-privileged person living in her own fantasy world, but this maths insult is just moronic.

    • @northleedspoppa
      @northleedspoppa 19 дней назад +4

      ​@@callum9999 no rounds 1 in 4 to 30%
      1 in 3 maybe

    • @ScruffyTubbles
      @ScruffyTubbles 19 дней назад

      @callum9999 I think it was someone else who made that comment

    • @Warbaman
      @Warbaman 19 дней назад +2

      ​@@callum9999 1/3 is 33%, 1/4 is 25% ... so you think 30% is closer to 25 than 33??

  • @barrygentry5364
    @barrygentry5364 19 дней назад +55

    I bet those complaining about VAT on private school education didn’t complain about the annual cuts to state school education. We live in a me, me, me society.

    • @kemalistdevrimturkaydnlanm168
      @kemalistdevrimturkaydnlanm168 18 дней назад +3

      But we pay for state education too.

    • @annaisiomaful
      @annaisiomaful 18 дней назад

      You do understand that the government confirmed that the classes in state schools will be increased to 45 per class.. This nonsense is not going to improve a broken system just like the NHS. Parents will do what they can to provide the best care for their kids, it is the actual duty!

    • @annaisiomaful
      @annaisiomaful 17 дней назад +2

      @@kemalistdevrimturkaydnlanm168preach and state schools will always suffer because teacher are running to other countries due to better salaries!

    • @kemalistdevrimturkaydnlanm168
      @kemalistdevrimturkaydnlanm168 17 дней назад +2

      @@annaisiomaful not sure about what the teachers would/ will do. But I don’t think it’s fair to punish parents who choose to pay for education for one reason or another when this country runs tax free islands for very rich elites. We knew but it’s revealed without a doubt that the royal family is not paying taxes, charging services which needs money to keep afloat. Taking large rents from charities where parents like myself support like attending cake sales each year. Donating money, even my 11 year old daughter donates to these charities.

    • @purplefood1
      @purplefood1 16 дней назад

      ​@@kemalistdevrimturkaydnlanm168so because there's an inequality with other taxes we shouldn't address this one? Got it no problems can be solved because there are other problems.

  • @yc9129
    @yc9129 20 дней назад +54

    Take your car to a garage you pay vat, get a haircut you pay vat, why should education be any different? You are buying a service

    • @milohenry1233
      @milohenry1233 20 дней назад

      Because people that send kids to private school are saving the government money by not using the state schools

    • @TheWebstaff
      @TheWebstaff 19 дней назад +2

      A privileged service.
      The purchaser can clearly see the added value in it.

    • @ianharley1726
      @ianharley1726 19 дней назад +1

      No vat on gambling!

    • @joelhall5124
      @joelhall5124 19 дней назад +6

      Because education isn't a profit generating industry when it comes to schools, tha overwhelming majority of private schools are small or SEN schools, and because children have a right to education, it's not a choice that parents can just forgo, like owning a car.

    • @yc9129
      @yc9129 19 дней назад +5

      @@joelhall5124 I get your point but I don't agree. I believe if you choose to pay for a private service then you pay vat. I'd also include vat on private medical treatment

  • @admiralpegasuscc
    @admiralpegasuscc 20 дней назад +23

    When people on low incomes spend the vast majority of the income in bills and cheap shopping (new national min wage will bring in £21k per year based on 40hrs per week) and they pay 90% of their income on bills, shopping, expected payouts, clothes, they certainly don't have the money to pay to send half a child to private school.

    • @normanpearson8753
      @normanpearson8753 20 дней назад

      It's £25, 400 pa

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 20 дней назад

      @admiral But you're not on a low income are you?

    • @admiralpegasuscc
      @admiralpegasuscc 20 дней назад +1

      @chatham43 no I'm sadly stuck on benefits being a full time carer to my disabled partner and autistic son. I would love more to be back at work, but can't. Giving up my job in the NHS was the hardest thing I ever had to do. And for someone like me who loves working, it's a kick in the gut to have to get Universal Credit, and become a full time carer, with very little, if no support to help me.

  • @Flippant-j5d
    @Flippant-j5d 20 дней назад +54

    My missus is Nanny, she works with "high value clients" up to royalty. She's told me stories of privilege that would make your stomach churn. If you think the rich consider we commoners as anything but peasants you'd be wrong lol.

    • @gameofender4463
      @gameofender4463 20 дней назад +3

      But it’s not about that though. Not everyone who can afford it are elitist.
      Some work very hard and decide to make a hard decision of putting everything they can into affording it to give them the best opportunity they can.

    • @El_Paracleto
      @El_Paracleto 20 дней назад +2

      Yes, I hear members of the 'Cheshire Set' are like this, not mentioning any footballer's wives names (lol)...'Working Class Hero' -JL saw it, well as far as he cud see...

    • @beastieboy3926
      @beastieboy3926 20 дней назад +2

      Starmer certainly thinks us average ppl are peasants

    • @melphillips9318
      @melphillips9318 20 дней назад

      yes of course she does another story that didn't happen, also commoners also go to private school ignorance is not a favourable trait.

    • @normanpearson8753
      @normanpearson8753 20 дней назад +1

      An awful lot of us are common .

  • @brianferguson7840
    @brianferguson7840 20 дней назад +144

    I'm not privileged !🤨🤨
    My maid isn't privileged our butler isn't privileged.
    Even our chauffeur isn't privileged !!

    • @moomin7461
      @moomin7461 20 дней назад +5

      😂😂

    • @brianferguson7840
      @brianferguson7840 20 дней назад +9

      ​@@lesigh1749
      I have absolutely no idea what point you are trying to make. Anyone can continue to send their children to private school regardless of political persuasion, it's simply that their private education will no longer be subsidised by the taxes of those too poor to enroll their own children.

    • @lesigh1749
      @lesigh1749 20 дней назад +7

      @@brianferguson7840 Of course you don't understand the point, that's why you are a labour voter.
      Let me try to explain it in small words.
      The cost of public school is going to go up because of VAT being added.
      Families on low incomes who could only just afford it before, will now be priced out and not able afford it in future.
      RICH people like Starmer and co, will be able to afford the higher price.
      Got it now?
      And those schools weren't being subsidized by taxes, they just weren't having their pupils fees creamed off the top by a greedy government.

    • @BLUESKY-zt1nv
      @BLUESKY-zt1nv 20 дней назад

      🤣

    • @allysha.j
      @allysha.j 20 дней назад

      Yes you are! If you able to access to those things whatever that maybe, you are privileged. And everybody has the “privilege” to have a maid, butler, chauffeur even if they wanted to, plz have self awareness and gratitude. Years ago I met these twin girls that were able to attend private school due to a scholarship/grant, they weren’t rich but they were fortunate enough to get a place. Not many have that….or fortunate enough to. It might not be much to you but at least it’s better than nothing. Many work hard and still cannot obtain such things. The lack of self awareness and gratitude with people is appalling. This is just to give perspective.

  • @brianbell3836
    @brianbell3836 19 дней назад +11

    Why should poor people subsidise rich ones.

    • @mohammadaamerasad117
      @mohammadaamerasad117 19 дней назад +1

      Then why should taxes help state schools be free? It is all tax money.

    • @antonydavis2764
      @antonydavis2764 19 дней назад +3

      You do realise that they are paying for state education with their taxes and then saving the state money by not using them.

    • @brianbell3836
      @brianbell3836 18 дней назад

      @@antonydavis2764 Oic. Doing it for the benefit of others! How noble!

    • @brianbell3836
      @brianbell3836 18 дней назад

      @@mohammadaamerasad117 I don't understand your complaint.

    • @antonydavis2764
      @antonydavis2764 18 дней назад

      @@brianbell3836 no-one said they’re doing it for the befit of others - that’s just the way the economics of the situation works.

  • @DarrenHannar
    @DarrenHannar 20 дней назад +110

    If you have money to send kids to private school your doing very well financially,,, pay your tax like everyone does rich people

    • @Jack_k32
      @Jack_k32 20 дней назад +32

      I guarantee they pay more tax than you

    • @veganbarnsley15
      @veganbarnsley15 20 дней назад +36

      ⁠​⁠​⁠@@Jack_k32As a percentage of earnings? It’s not just about the total amount payed. What kind of a country permits educational apartheid? Private schools help hoard wealth, power and opportunity for the few. They are indeed enablers of wealth hoarding, of power hoarding, of opportunity hoarding. They are, in short, an affront to any notion of a just or inclusive society. They should not be given tax breaks. Personally I would ban private schools.

    • @fumanchu9701
      @fumanchu9701 20 дней назад +14

      @@veganbarnsley15Jack_k32 has gone quiet. Maybe he didn’t think of paying tax as a percentage of earnings. Don’t be too harsh on him as he’s just finishing his primary education.

    • @GregOrCreg
      @GregOrCreg 20 дней назад +2

      @@veganbarnsley15 I agree with your overall argument about unfair privilege, but speaking as someone who had a torrid (state school) education, I'm still not keen on the idea of banning anything. Let a fool spend his money where he likes, just as long as he doesn't try to wriggle out of paying what's due.
      And, to be fair, right now, this policy is in the benefit of state school students, so, I hope most families do keep their privileged sprogs in private schools for the time being.

    • @blackpound2297
      @blackpound2297 20 дней назад +3

      @@Jack_k32 check out the brain on Jack!

  • @raymondwebb4179
    @raymondwebb4179 20 дней назад +58

    VAT on school fees are truly a Brexit bonus,

  • @julianlawrence-ball2279
    @julianlawrence-ball2279 20 дней назад +31

    It took me less than 10 seconds to discover that the yearly fees for Harrow were £12500 per term for 2016/17 and are £18000 per term 2024/25 a 35% increase. Where was the outrage then?

    • @leefisher816
      @leefisher816 20 дней назад +2

      Most private schools are not like Harrow buddy

    • @Alex-cw3rz
      @Alex-cw3rz 20 дней назад +7

      ​​@@leefisher816 the average increase in fees in Private schools has gone up 55%...

    • @MonkeySlayer-j7z
      @MonkeySlayer-j7z 20 дней назад

      It was back then

    • @boobrancher9941
      @boobrancher9941 19 дней назад +1

      You get what you pay for with Harrow unlike any money given to the government.

    • @mckenzie.latham91
      @mckenzie.latham91 18 дней назад

      ​@@boobrancher9941yeah you get a free ride into the elites of society just because you came from on overcharging boys club

  • @Just-Wool
    @Just-Wool 20 дней назад +9

    Schools can, you know, drop the fees to be the same price as now post VAT, rather than make their customers spend more. If they want to.

    • @1violalass
      @1violalass 15 дней назад

      Only if they have the wiggle room to have less money coming in.

  • @themills23
    @themills23 20 дней назад +25

    Less old Etonians benefits us all. Surely everyone can see that?

    • @Polly-d5c
      @Polly-d5c 19 дней назад +3

      Fewer. But yes I agree!!

  • @infosuge
    @infosuge 20 дней назад +49

    if you have the money you can send your children to private school. If you’re too poor to afford the fees your children will miss out which has always been the experience of lower income families 90% of the country.

    • @NINA10117
      @NINA10117 20 дней назад

      Not true. Most private schools have a scholarship fund or families that will chip in to send a child. Seems like everyone is just enjoying being a victim.

    • @canavan85
      @canavan85 20 дней назад +1

      A lot of people don’t have the money, they remortgage, borrow and save. Private school isn’t a privilege

    • @storm65432
      @storm65432 20 дней назад +5

      ​@@canavan85​And how exactly
      does one without the means to own go about "remortgaging"?
      Please post links of ethical lenders where low-earning parents might borrow against "decades of hard work", "making ends meet", and "fervent hopes and dreams for our Jill"?

    • @NINA10117
      @NINA10117 19 дней назад

      @@mariannehavisham8323 This is not meant to insult you I'm just askig. Might that have been because the local state school had lower standards?

  • @obiwanjabroniX
    @obiwanjabroniX 20 дней назад +5

    This woman goes to show that the old Scottish saying that Edinburgh isn't Scotland, is true.
    Am sorry Edinburgh is so posh that you have to be posh, the rest of the country is working class and suffering. Disgusts me hearing Scottish people spout what essentially amounts to Tory propaganda

  • @iangascoigne8231
    @iangascoigne8231 20 дней назад +7

    Perhaps she should follow her own advice and prioritise her funds better.

  • @garyballared2077
    @garyballared2077 20 дней назад +59

    shut up and pay up

    • @Dynasty1818
      @Dynasty1818 20 дней назад +2

      Same with all you "struggling" financially. Get better with money.

    • @blackpound2297
      @blackpound2297 20 дней назад +4

      @@Dynasty1818 shut up and pay up!

    • @garyballared2077
      @garyballared2077 20 дней назад

      @@Dynasty1818 what spare money?

    • @garyballared2077
      @garyballared2077 20 дней назад +2

      70 per cent of income on rent leaces nothing spare

    • @RightSnowflake-p6y
      @RightSnowflake-p6y 20 дней назад

      Or be born into privilege in a system set up to give tax breaks to the privileged… oh yeah let’s change that

  • @ShineyTwoShoes-qh4lt
    @ShineyTwoShoes-qh4lt 20 дней назад +49

    Ban private and faith schools completely. Parents can fund thier kids schools for the benefit of all its pupils. Just use the Finland model.

    • @jonathanlewis453
      @jonathanlewis453 20 дней назад +3

      Excellent idea -you can teach people what to think and not how to think.

    • @chrislodge5808
      @chrislodge5808 20 дней назад +7

      They all fund the state school through taxes, even if their children go to private school. MY tax helps fund schools, and I don’t have children!

    • @andyptv1996
      @andyptv1996 20 дней назад

      What does that have to do with private schools existing? I pay tax and don't have kids also. So? Cost of living in a civilised country. ​@@chrislodge5808

    • @marmite8959
      @marmite8959 20 дней назад

      ​@@jonathanlewis453so in your insane world private school students somehow have a better grasp on reality???

    • @meagain4168
      @meagain4168 19 дней назад

      Yes.Start with islamic schools.
      See how that works 😅

  • @storm65432
    @storm65432 20 дней назад +5

    Not a privilege??? Please post links of ethical lenders where low-earning parents might borrow against "decades of hard work", "making ends meet", and "fervent hopes and dreams for our Jill"?

  • @Lynnpjjbdndji
    @Lynnpjjbdndji 20 дней назад +10

    Question... private school claim charity status.... So are the fees a Donation. ????????

  • @mick3765
    @mick3765 20 дней назад +10

    People who can afford private education on people using food banks. Buy supermarket own brands, get rid of netflix get a better paid job. Message to people worried about VAT on school fees. Practice what you preach.

    • @MWB_logic_reason_respect
      @MWB_logic_reason_respect 18 дней назад

      The Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) has highlighted a critical oversight in Labour’s proposal to raise £1.7bn from VAT on private school fees, as the estimate does not consider the significant costs required to support students who may be forced into the state sector as a result.
      In reality, once the additional state spending is accounted for, the projected £1.7bn quickly shrinks to zero.
      Beyond this, the government has already committed considerable funds to address existing education needs-£450m for teacher recruitment, £365m for school breakfasts, and £15m for school-based nurseries-leaving only £970m from the original estimate.
      OBR and IFS forecasts indicate that between 35,000 and 40,000 pupils will leave private schools, requiring an additional £305m under current state per-pupil funding levels. However, if the IFS’s revised estimate of 90,000 students holds, this could add up to £700m in extra funding. This leaves a net of just £270m-£665m.
      Independent schools, which are largely registered as charities, already provide enormous value to the state, relieving pressure on state schools by educating over half a million students at no cost to taxpayers. The sector contributes an estimated £16.5bn annually to the UK economy and supports around 300,000 jobs. Moreover, it saves the government billions in education costs that would otherwise be required if these students moved into the state system.
      In addition to economic contributions, many independent schools support children with Special Educational Needs (SEN), which can be costly for local authorities. Currently, around 120,000 children in private education have SEN, with 8,000 requiring Education, Health, and Care Plans (EHCPs). Moving these children into state schools could place a heavy burden on local authorities, requiring millions more in funding.
      Further strain would be felt in areas with high concentrations of private school attendees. Some areas, such as Surrey, may require the construction of new schools to accommodate displaced students, costing tens of millions more.
      The ripple effects continue, as many independent schools may also claim VAT rebates for up to 10 years after registration, adding further strain on public finances.
      If this policy were implemented, the impact would not only be financial but would disrupt families, overstretch local authorities, and potentially lead to closures of independent schools. In the end, a plan aimed at raising revenue may leave the state bearing a net cost, while damaging a sector that brings significant economic and social benefits to the country.

    • @allmodcons2274
      @allmodcons2274 15 дней назад

      110% correct. And the old chestnut 'don't have kids if you can't afford them.....(private schools)'

  • @Edward-cv2gw
    @Edward-cv2gw 20 дней назад +5

    Taxing people extra to do the state a favour by lessening the burden on state schools for a better education which will benefit the country in the long run by having a better educated populous. Okay.

    • @mckenzie.latham91
      @mckenzie.latham91 18 дней назад

      So in other words, poor people should subsidize the education of elites to rule them like cattle
      Got it.

  • @Bubbasmum
    @Bubbasmum 20 дней назад +36

    If I cannot afford the VAT on a car, then I don't buy the car.

    • @NINA10117
      @NINA10117 20 дней назад +4

      @Bubbaasmum That's a little short-sighted. A properly educated society is a healthy and productive society. If goverment schools are cranking out poorly educated students then long term your society will collape, much like it's doing right now. So it's clear that it's not working. On the other hand your car is a machine that loses value the minute it's driven off the lot. And it continues to devalue right up until it's useless and sold for parts. So you are comparing children and the future of your society to a car? Is that an example of the public/government school you went to? Maybe if government schools did a better job of educatng students they wouldn't need to pick the pockets citizens who want a better life for their children. Or is that a crime against socialism too?

    • @goodluck-mx4qr
      @goodluck-mx4qr 20 дней назад +1

      When VAT came in it was meant to be temporary but still here 50 years later

    • @ceebee6633
      @ceebee6633 20 дней назад

      These are not cars they are children. If parents cant mange to fund the extra this will affect these children’s future and impact local schools that impact all tax payers.

    • @EchoPandaGaming
      @EchoPandaGaming 20 дней назад

      @@NINA10117if “it isn’t working” then you shouldn’t be worried about people changing it? xoxo

  • @tonyjackson7322
    @tonyjackson7322 17 дней назад +2

    The Lawyer's and Barristers will be Rubbing their Hands, more money to pay for their kids Law School Education..

  • @davidstrudwick6879
    @davidstrudwick6879 20 дней назад +4

    Private school fees have increased by 55% since 2004. Numbers of children attending those schools has remained largely unchanged. So it would appear that parents don’t mind paying when the schools increase fees but when the government introduces vat on the over inflated fees that’s just not on. Perhaps they could sell off some rugby pitches. That will keep the fees down

    • @allmodcons2274
      @allmodcons2274 15 дней назад

      Or get the king to reduce their rents.

  • @Keggums
    @Keggums 20 дней назад +8

    If people who send their children to private school can claim that they are not privileged or rich, please, tell me what are the people who can not afford to do this classed as then?

  • @chrstnldg6652
    @chrstnldg6652 20 дней назад +3

    The tories think that charities are the way you support the social contract. Tax is for them to avoid

  • @JIMMYNDMS
    @JIMMYNDMS 20 дней назад +4

    "... They've hired some of the _most expensive_ lawyers in the country..."😂😂😂😂

  • @acrodave9287
    @acrodave9287 20 дней назад +4

    Nothing makes some working class people as proud as scrimping and saving to send their kids to private school and having them come home to look down on their own parents, treat them like dirt and practically disown them publicly; it makes all their sacrifice seem so worthwhile.

    • @mckenzie.latham91
      @mckenzie.latham91 18 дней назад +1

      Ah yes the 6% of families that send kids to private school
      With 16-18k pound per semester tution fees
      Those working class folks...

  • @mjl2904
    @mjl2904 20 дней назад +3

    Parents do know sending your kids to private school is a choice. You are choosing to pay fees that you cannot afford.

  • @DavidGetling
    @DavidGetling 20 дней назад +4

    Not only do some parents prioritise their funds, some even go out and work an extra job, such as evening cleaning, to fund their child's further education: I'm not making this up. Does this seem privileged?

    • @mckenzie.latham91
      @mckenzie.latham91 18 дней назад +1

      Expalin to me you can can afford 30-45k pound year tuiojs (many schools have 16-18k per semester tuition costs)
      On 30k a year as 80% of the work force makes...
      While stil having expenses for cars, utilites taxes, rent and etc.
      Don't lie to us, the nunbers don't match
      Also private school fees go up 20-30% ever 1-2 years
      What cost you 16k in 2016, now costs $24-25k in 2024...
      So why no piblicnoutrage agaisnt that if you're so worried about makijg the money?

  • @TheBurdenOfHope
    @TheBurdenOfHope 20 дней назад +31

    Go on Matthew. Spell out to these deluded people. Private Schools are not charities. The clue is in the name: Private!

    • @PLl-jr8xi
      @PLl-jr8xi 20 дней назад +2

      Education is also compulsory. So you can't tax it like it's a luxury can you.

    • @amayastrata4629
      @amayastrata4629 20 дней назад +1

      ⁠@@PLl-jr8xibut the difference between private and state is akin to shopping at fortnums or Sainsbury’s. I can afford Sainsbury’s but fortnums is a rare treat.

  • @annepoitrineau5650
    @annepoitrineau5650 19 дней назад +2

    There is a word for your caller matthew, it is not "normal" it is "entitled", and then another: "Out of touch".

  • @BigAlCapwn
    @BigAlCapwn 20 дней назад +5

    "VAT is charged on most things"...Actually when it comes to children, no it isn't, children's clothes, food (outside junk food), healthcare/medicines and domestic fuel/energy are all VAT exempt or zero rated. Toys are probably the only common child expense that attracts VAT

    • @ajwright5512
      @ajwright5512 16 дней назад

      Would you wish a childhood without toys on a child?

  • @rhidianchapman2560
    @rhidianchapman2560 20 дней назад +5

    No money to pay VAT, money to go to court lols

  • @cadasare9333
    @cadasare9333 19 дней назад +1

    Single parent with 3 children...no help from their Dad. Ive always worked full time since they were school age. Paid for 11+ tuition for all of them . One child went to a private school; super bright and got a generous bursary and scholarship cos she was so bright, and what i paid towards her fees was means tested. My other two went to state schools and are absolutely fine and happy. Do what works well for your child's personality

  • @TheEvilTaffyapple
    @TheEvilTaffyapple 15 дней назад +1

    Just to clarify - you absolutely do not have to be privileged to go to private school. I went to private school and had a bursary to pay for my place - my mum and dad were poor, and he later died of cancer whilst I was at school so we lived on one basic salary for the majority of my childhood.
    Obviously, this means the VAT wouldn't have effected my mum - but I thought it was worth pointing out there were plenty in my position, too.

  • @kalebdaark100
    @kalebdaark100 20 дней назад +15

    If it's not a privilege to send your kid to a private school, why bother doing it?

  • @LAD907
    @LAD907 20 дней назад +2

    No one should be denied access to life-changing education, or at least not to the degree that has been charged in over recent decades. Apart from private education, governments actually committed to provide free universities for a long period of time, yet here we are with firms having trouble filling competent positions

  • @patdavis3043
    @patdavis3043 15 дней назад

    It’s a wonder that these “Karens” continue you call in because you sure do call out their bougie cluelessness.

  • @1pauljs
    @1pauljs 15 дней назад

    Impressive how coherent that was when arguing against sense.

  • @lesnorris
    @lesnorris 14 дней назад

    Why is it that those that have worked hard are always being asked "to pay a little more" for those who have sat on their backsides and done nothing.

  • @Elfo_
    @Elfo_ 15 дней назад

    A few years ago, I read an article in a major German newspaper about a wealthy family being interviewed at home. Through the article, the family kept complaining that they weren’t really wealthy, and that their expenses were so high, and they couldn’t understand why people would consider them wealthy. I was shocked at what they spent their money on, thousands of euros on vacations, smartphone contracts for everyone and hundreds per month on clothes for their kids, as if that were normal for everyone. At the end of the article, the author wrote, "As I wrapped up the visit and left the house, a delivery of new lawn for their front yard was arriving, imported from the Netherlands because the family preferred the grass there."

  • @salford6
    @salford6 20 дней назад +3

    Yet another LBC comment section filled with jealousy, envy & hate 🥱

  • @si8568
    @si8568 16 дней назад

    Left the uk due to this and now I'm in dubai enjoying the sun. Thanks labour

  • @jimbo-yv5jh
    @jimbo-yv5jh 20 дней назад +3

    Fee paying schools are subject to VAT, obviously universities should be paying VAT?

  • @unionjack8463
    @unionjack8463 18 дней назад +1

    Private schools are essential to some parents. My parents were not wealthy. A post office radio engineer and a nurse. It was the county council and his employer that funded my private school education. When residential school was the only option while British exports were sold abroad children were incarcerated in private schools in Britain. VAT on education is a diabolical concept. Room and board taxable? How does the schools charitable status affect VAT? Not all private school students are wealthy, a survey of the car park on parents day would enlighten the whiners.

    • @allmodcons2274
      @allmodcons2274 15 дней назад

      Room and board, well they do tax B&B's.

    • @unionjack8463
      @unionjack8463 14 дней назад

      ​@@allmodcons2274
      The tax collector funds the service, collecting tax on the service it funds. A model for the ages...

  • @LDN-pup
    @LDN-pup 18 дней назад +2

    Almost without exception I agree with Matthew’s *points*.. but this video is a perfect example of how presentation matters!
    She may have been wrong but sounded fairly reasonable.. which you’d never guess from his interruptions and overall tone 🙄

  • @AlejandroMonteagudo
    @AlejandroMonteagudo 16 дней назад

    If they can afford the most expensive lawyers in the UK they can afford the VAT

  • @kemalistdevrimturkaydnlanm168
    @kemalistdevrimturkaydnlanm168 18 дней назад +1

    We are both working and on average salaries, but have to find money to pay for our one child’s education as it’s our responsibility to give her the best possible and suitable education possible. We made an informed decision to bring her to world. Since we made this decision, we don’t have our needs or wants just hers. That’s how I see it when you make a decision to have a child. I am disgusted that I have to cut down more , find more money while this country runs tax free islands and under rule of privileged people who pay no tax and demand more tax from us to pay the privileged elite more of my taxes.

  • @Stephanie-wf6xr
    @Stephanie-wf6xr 20 дней назад +3

    93% of children, do not go to private school.😂😂

  • @lsrm18
    @lsrm18 20 дней назад +5

    Many people do have wrong priorities! I know many people who claim that they can not pay for private school but then have a Range Rover parked on the driveway.

  • @WrechedStuff
    @WrechedStuff 15 дней назад

    'People who can't afford private schools are normal people' and then seconds later, from the person who can afford to send their child to private school: 'I am normal!' - that cognitive dissonance is wild. Most normal people can't afford that. I am an electrical engineer and could never ever afford to £8000 a year without forgoing shelter. You're not normal if you can afford that, I wouldn't even say that I'm entirely normal as I earn well above the national average and I can't afford it, so what does that make the caller!?

  • @Liam.921
    @Liam.921 20 дней назад +15

    So she has money??? What’s the problem????

    • @franklingoodwin
      @franklingoodwin 20 дней назад +10

      That she's as deluded as you are. Still crying about Labour winning the General Election I see. Bore off, Liam 😂

    • @Alex-y2r6p
      @Alex-y2r6p 20 дней назад

      Do your kids go to private schools

    • @GregOrCreg
      @GregOrCreg 20 дней назад +3

      Nothing whatsoever, but if she has the money, she can afford to pay the VAT. Simple.

    • @jamesarnold7253
      @jamesarnold7253 20 дней назад +5

      There is no problem with having money. Having money and going on the radio pretending you're in the same situation as average people is silly though
      I'm in the top 10% of earners. So I wouldn't go on a radio show and pretend I'm not doing well. Because statistically and relatively I obviously am. This woman should look up what percentile her net worth puts her in before coming on the radio to complain about being taxed for a luxury

    • @Liam.921
      @Liam.921 19 дней назад

      @@franklingoodwin jealous franky-boy!!!!!!! Ha

  • @claireclayforth339
    @claireclayforth339 14 дней назад

    Neither are the labour lot who are now asking for concessions to keep sending theirs!

  • @poohead99
    @poohead99 20 дней назад +1

    so by the reasoning of Kat those who are childless should be reimbursed £8k a year???

  • @achatwithalex474
    @achatwithalex474 20 дней назад +3

    Let's just do away with private education and focus on standards across state schools. On this thing about being 'privileged'..
    Let's not pretend it's a purely private sector issue. Although overall I back the budget, the public sector has been largely spared. Now a lot of those do crucial jobs, I'm not denying that. But I do think we've become obsessed with 'those who have very little vs the rest' and whilst the rest includes multi-millionaires for whom the impact will be minimal, it will undoubtedly encourage the next generation not to save into a pension.
    Once again, it's the middle who get squeezed

    • @gameofender4463
      @gameofender4463 20 дней назад

      I don’t agree. Before, I would’ve agreed with you on abolishing it.
      But what changed my mind is that for those that are genuinely talented and gifted they do deserve to have the opportunity to benefit from it.
      Tldr, if it was merit-based it’d be a lot better.

  • @allmodcons2274
    @allmodcons2274 16 дней назад

    I got one of those 'smallest violins' for these buffoons. Improve state schools for the majority, and provide more scholarships. Also, private schools have charitable status!

  • @ianlightfoot9458
    @ianlightfoot9458 18 дней назад

    V.A.T. on private school fees, finally a Brexit benefit?

  • @brianferguson7840
    @brianferguson7840 20 дней назад +48

    I'll bet not one child is taken out of private school as a result of VAT. Next the rich will be claiming tax exemption for new Bentleys and Champagne 🍾

    • @SuperChorlton
      @SuperChorlton 20 дней назад +4

      They already have.
      U r either a troll or have no idea what you're talking about

    • @Alex-y2r6p
      @Alex-y2r6p 20 дней назад +3

      ​@@SuperChorltonname 1000 😊

    • @gameofender4463
      @gameofender4463 20 дней назад +2

      I’m not against taxing the rich more, not at all.
      But this is a very simplistic and incompetent way to do it.

    • @brianferguson7840
      @brianferguson7840 20 дней назад +5

      ​@@SuperChorlton
      No they haven't. I shouldn't have to explain this to anyone but, all the numbers quoted have been simply predicted or stated intentions for when the VAT is implemented. At this time no pupils have been withdrawn from private schooling as the VAT has not been implemented and parents will not take their kids out of school for which they have already paid.

    • @DreZato12
      @DreZato12 20 дней назад +3

      @@gameofender4463 simplistic yes, incompetent no.

  • @APMerry
    @APMerry 16 дней назад

    Does all VAT from private schools go straight to education?
    This should be delayed until April in my opinion. For an organisation that has never had to charge VAT on it's fees and does not pay VAT on all it's expenses still, 2 months is a very short amount of time to be ready with financial systems ready to handle it.

  • @example306
    @example306 18 дней назад

    I don't understand why private school parents who dare against VAT just don't work harder? All this whineing when they could pull themselves up by their boots straps instead of looking for VAT exemption handouts. If you want to give your kid an unfair advantage, work more hours, get a second job, cut back on holidays, or takeaways, or nights ou, or avocado toast, or Netflix subscriptions. You know, the kind of things normal families do just to make ends meet.

  • @moshudoduwade219
    @moshudoduwade219 20 дней назад +2

    Bring out the violins 🎻 😂😂

  • @RichardStephens-bt6or
    @RichardStephens-bt6or 20 дней назад

    67 now I went to a RC second modern in Warrington do know what? I now realise how privileged I've been

  • @seamuspadraigsanders431
    @seamuspadraigsanders431 19 дней назад

    Every single parent involved in taxing private schools are rich enough to afford the tax. Make it make sense.

  • @paulhodgers
    @paulhodgers 14 дней назад

    I know I'm 5 days late on this one.
    I think this lady convinced me...

    • @paulhodgers
      @paulhodgers 14 дней назад

      To support the government on their VAT on private schools.

  • @jacquelinemosforth8280
    @jacquelinemosforth8280 17 дней назад

    This Caller is extremely out of touch. Priorities! 🙄

  • @paulmidsussex3409
    @paulmidsussex3409 13 дней назад

    There are other things that do not have VAT on it - Newspapers, books, funerals, houses, mortgage interest - most of the money spent on these things are spent by privileged people so Reeves should get her backside in gear and put a VAT tax on these.

  • @maryotoole7389
    @maryotoole7389 14 дней назад

    Putting your child in private school you are entitled or you wouldn’t have your child in private scgool

  • @paulbird3235
    @paulbird3235 20 дней назад +1

    Do they have the same lawyers as the farmers and Royal family.

  • @RJW1967
    @RJW1967 20 дней назад

    Brilliant stuff Mathew!

  • @andrewcharlton2709
    @andrewcharlton2709 18 дней назад

    education should never be taxed. and sorry my son is not the same as somebodies asbo kid

  • @leemoore5751
    @leemoore5751 19 дней назад

    If you can afford kids that need to go to private-school, don't have them.

  • @sgbh8874
    @sgbh8874 12 дней назад

    The ‘privilege’ is the ‘schooling’, not necessarily the education.
    "Of course, you know how Grant Allen used to deplore the fact that young people, even those with the so-called highest advantages, are brought up to know next to nothing of the natural marvels that surround them; and he used to get laughed at for saying, ‘What a misfortune it is we should let our boys’ schooling interfere with their education!’ Edward Clodd.

  • @JamesBrown-ev3eb
    @JamesBrown-ev3eb 18 дней назад

    The delusion of some people.

  • @aldeelollah5732
    @aldeelollah5732 19 дней назад

    The government needs to be warned.
    1:32

  • @craphead9842
    @craphead9842 19 дней назад

    If you want private education for your children then pay for it.... Tony cuenca

  • @mariannehavisham8323
    @mariannehavisham8323 20 дней назад

    Social services occassionally pay for a child to attend private school so it's not always rich kids. When I chose to move to the local state school we were on free school meals because our household income fell in a very low bracket. Being the only kid not from a wealthy background at a school full of wealthy children is difficult and embarassing frequently

  • @colincampbell4261
    @colincampbell4261 20 дней назад +1

    I did not that about the EU and VAT on education fees.

    • @ollie1317
      @ollie1317 20 дней назад +1

      The first brexit benefit i have ever heard of

  • @growlingleapard7868
    @growlingleapard7868 19 дней назад

    To enlarge on my previous comment. Hows this for an idea.upon winning a seat in parliament all MPs will sign a document of commitment, their children must attend state school then spend a total of six years in the British infantry. And of course all MPs must use the NHS

  • @graemebuchan8142
    @graemebuchan8142 20 дней назад +1

    Raises the question, why is state education so bad?

  • @ChrisinHove
    @ChrisinHove 20 дней назад

    To be fair, we now need higher stamp duty and Council Tax on houses near the best rated state schools.

  • @bob23301
    @bob23301 20 дней назад +1

    Boohoo.......let me give her some advice that i am sure she has stated more than once over the last few years as she watched people struggle to get by on the basics like heating and eating...............get another job and don't have kids you can't afford..............right?
    Oh dear, the shoe is now on the other foot.

  • @XX-zu6ot
    @XX-zu6ot 20 дней назад

    People always want something for nothing these days. Sort your own lives out rather than worrying about what other have earned.

  • @ziggytree1
    @ziggytree1 20 дней назад +1

    VAT on school fees will raise less than 1% of the education budget. There then seems to be a lot of confdence from Matt that the Labour government will allocate that money effectively which is delusional. Also,, a bit thick to tell a "privileged" Scot how the wealthy voted for Brexit when Scotland voted Remain.

  • @dylanmckeith5500
    @dylanmckeith5500 19 дней назад

    This might be a hot take but I think he is absolutely on the money 💯💯💯

  • @clivewalker5465
    @clivewalker5465 20 дней назад

    If you are in a position to send your Children to a Private School well done , this is not a privilege because anyone can do it , whether you have the resources is a different matter ,

  • @maxine2798
    @maxine2798 19 дней назад

    They should just work harder. The scholarship kids should be VAT free.

  • @damongt4
    @damongt4 19 дней назад

    Won’t the amount generated result in 1 additional teacher per school……. Hardly a revolution is it.

    • @Ken-yy9us
      @Ken-yy9us 18 дней назад

      Still an improvement though!! Ever tried being a teacher?
      Didn't think so 😂