We have to realize that some people dont show their true colors before marriage. Once your married and binded together forever without escape they will show their true behaviour
Its not that simple@@theconqueror742, even the start of marriage can show their sides and its always been whether your partner had been changed from before or not
Divorce is illegal in the Philippines because legislators depend their electoral winnability with the conservative Catholic and Evangelical voters, so a legislator (a district representative) who advocates for allowing absolute divorce is expected to lose in the next legislative election.
Yes, but the main reason really is because it has never become a priority bill in the first place. The Catholic church has significantly lost its influence in the past few decades so they are not the real barrier here. Based on what I observed, the country just has too many problems to solve and discuss first that it became so easy for legislators to just dismiss divorce
Hypocrite! Alam nmn ng lahat yan! Kahit cmbahn alam nmn na need ng divorce pero,patuloy prin sa pgiging ipokrito at ipokrita,cno b nmn ang gustong mkisma sa taon hindi mo na mahal at di kna masaya,ang gusto ng cmbhn eh khit hindi kna masaya mgptuloy kpa rin sa kasal mo,pno nmn ung mga nkkita n ng ibang mkksma at bumilang n ng anak sa iba at gusto ng mgpakasal.
This is infuriating. I'm abroad but someone there I want to bring to the USA to marry but I can't because she's still married to a man that abandoned her 25yrs ago. She can't get a K1 Visa because she's still married. The annulment process can also be a scam and very expensive. They will extract thousands of dollars from you during the process. This is horrid for her because she shouldn't feel like a "low class lady" when she has someone.
I think the video title should be "Why some Filipinos want their country to have a divorce law again?" as we used to have that until 1950s. The annulment law in the Philippines is just like a divorce law but a very expensive & complicated version of it. The annulment case can lasts for 2 years or longer making it more costly but advantageous for the lawyers. Absence of divorce law in PH shows that many lawmakers in PH love hypocrisy, want to please some church leaders who strongly oppose enactment of divorce bill, don't care about the majority who can't afford to spend for an annulment case & many are probably afraid that their spouses will divorce them & the court might order majority of their properties to be given to innocent spouses since the divorce bills submitted before didn't include no-fault divorce.
As a Filipino man living in the USA. I think the laws in my country should remain the same! I am never been a fan of Divorce, Child Support, or worse, Alimony! Women over here in the USA are taking full advantage of the family courts even though they are the ones who initiated the divorce themselves and their men are not the abuser. Women over here are promiscuous and Infidelity is running rampant here, all because women are given more rights and privileges than men! If they change the laws to legalize divorce in my country, I can 100% bet plenty of innocent good husbands who are not abusers will suffer and infidelity will be more popular than the Catholics can handle! I say NO to legalizing divorce!
I worked in a law office for five years and filing an annulment costs a million worth of filings, pleadings, appearance fee, acceptance fee and attorney's fee even paying for a psychological report by psychologists but it's doesn't mean that you'll be granted. Worse, it takes several years if you are going to appeal with the higher court after being denied. I would agree with this report! PS: No wonder how other Filipinos did some shortcuts in a illegal manner.
Thank you for an interesting topic. I am Ukrainian who travelled to Philippines and met friends and got to learn about people a fair bit. I wish Philippinos courage to make a move and give freedom to people whose lives it affects. At the end of the day you can’t make life choices on behalf of all people. People need a choice to make a decision and they will stand the God’s trial if that’s what the belief is. The Catholic Church in Philippines can exert its efforts of education and continue their efforts to help the poor and homeless.
If you can enter into a binding contract, and just break the contract and be rewarded for it...Who on Earth would ever enter one? Thats marriage in America, you would have to be a fool to get married in America as a man today.
The woman is lying. Coerced marriages are illegal by both the Philippine government and the Catholic Church and is clear ground for annulment, without being overturned. This story is full of lies. And the woman has also chosen to live as an adulteress by the moral standards of her church, the Catholic Church. Therefore, she will never be allowed to remarry. She knows that and yet she has made her choice. Don't feel so sorry for her. This is not a political issue. It is a personal choice she made. As for the DW presentation of this, it is for a social value agenda that is opposed to the Catholic Church. That is why they have misrepresented the situation. Btw, I am in Ukraine.
@@SubvertTheStateYou guys just hate marriage in America because there, women don't have to deal with negging men. Women and children don't suffer as much. While here in the Philippines, you men are more than free to leave and hurt a woman as much as you like.
Im one of the filipina who filed for annullment and because of lack of evidence my annullment was denied,we file a motion for reconsideration to reverse the decision and now i am waiting for the decision... So stressful this annullment our law here is not fair ,how we can move on if we still used the surname of our husband...
Legalizing divorce just promotes marriages of convenience like the U.S. which has over a 50% divorce rate. People get married for the ring and reception. The sanctity of marriage is just an afterthought.
But not legalizing it just prisons women who are getting abused by their husbands even if it's a vow we don't care if it was made in church since the marriage is already falling apart
@@ronbernardpenero7926 False. Legal separation means women can leave an abusive relationship. If you don’t believe in marriage vows either leave via separation or don’t get married.
@@dillinpicklesworth5698can you stop controlling the life of the people,if you don't help us..focus your preaching every Sunday or focus to fixed the scandals one of your father did..
@@divorcephilippines6768 sorry that you're offended by my simple comment, but it's true, a vow is a vow, if you are too weak to keep your vows, then don't make them.
Then why marry in a church, by a priest. People want to be celebrated by everyone, swear vows before God, be recognized by the State and everyone they know as married. Until their "feelings" change, now it should be easy for someone to change their mind?
@@SubvertTheState "now it should be easy for someone to change their mind?" Yes obviously it should be easy for someone to change their mind, that is what happens in reality all the time.
Anullment is not the same as divorce. It's worse. Anullment is what the Roman Catholic Church has in stead of divorce, but it is not equivalent. It means that the court declares that your marriage never existed. For that, it needs a "proof", and that can be difficult to provide. But saying that the marriage never existed is a lie in most cases. When people marry, they often marry for love. And the marriage is real. When their love disapear, it does not mean they never loved each other. The concept of anullment force people to claim what is not true: to claim that the marriage never existed. The people are forced to lie. And then the court also lies, because it also claims what is not true. And when it is a religious court, then it is a lie before God. That make anullment actuallly anti-religious. Anullment makes lots of harm by forcing people to lie. That is why divorce should be legal everywhere.
One of the possible "poofs" which the Church acknowledge for claiming the marriage never existed is that it was involuntary. That means that the woman in the video is actually one of the rare cases when annullment is possible, even by the strict rules of the church. The fact that it was denied to her is another proof how unjust the Philipino system is and how desperatlelly the country needs to legalize divorces.
Philippines should change the law. People can choose who ever they want to married. Also philippines shouldn't follow the vatican. I still i don't understand why philippines follow a roman catholic ways. As roman catholic i'm sad of this situation. My message to both Filipino men and women don't enter a relationship that you're unsure of. Appeareance can be deceiving. A person true nature will be reveal to you when you spent you're days with them. Pray 🙏 that this situation will be over for the good of the Filipino people.
Legalizing divorce will start the degradation of family values…. Annulment should be granted after physical abuse ( with police and medical records) , infidelity, forced or under a threat marriage and abandonment ( 2 years)…. People sometimes divorce just because their spouse snore a lot or have different goals in life….
There is one additional way some Filipinos obtain divorces. That way is where a Filipino citizen obtains residency or citizenship in another country and obtains a divorce there. If so, that Filipino can legally remarry in another country if only have residency in that country. If they have citizenship, they can remarry in the Philippines based on a valid overseas divorce. Various celebrities have done this but need to have some money. Annulment, Philippines style, is very expensive and time consuming and so is largely limited to the wealthy and privileged there. This is an area of law urgently needing reform. The current bills before the Congress are largely modelled on the former Senator Santiago`s model which is in part fault based and in part minimum separation period based. The proposed law is therefore conservative in contrast to countries like Australia where divorce is not fault based. Just 12 months separation required to show marriage breakdown.
@@LSmoney215 That is why I wrote "some". Most Filipinos do live in poverty as you say, so neither legal option is available to them. That is why divorce must be introduced.
You are not 100% correct. It is possible to travel to the U.S. as a tourist. Then go to Nevada for six weeks and get a divorce provided you plan to get married to someone in the U.S. You get have a divorce finalized in Nevada on Saturday and get married in California on Sunday. So, no you do not need to be a resident or Citizen -- at least not in the United States.
I’m not in favor of this. We will be just like other countries. Making marriage like a game of trial and error. Look at other countries, marry today divorce tomorrow
Are you familiar with the adage, 'It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer'? By extension, I believe it's preferable for ten individuals to divorce for trivial reasons than for one person with valid grounds to be denied the opportunity to divorce. This analogy underscores the importance of ensuring that those in abusive or intolerable situations have the freedom to seek divorce, akin to safeguarding the rights of the innocent, while acknowledging the complexity of divorce decisions in different circumstances.
@@GerbsCE Imagine if we applied your logic to other aspects of life. Would we advise against starting a business because there's a risk of failure? Or discourage people from pursuing their dreams because there's a chance they might not succeed? Just as in marriage, where love and commitment are the driving forces, life is full of risks, but it's the pursuit of happiness and fulfillment that makes it worthwhile. Instead of avoiding marriage altogether because of the possibility of divorce, we should focus on supporting healthy relationships and providing resources for those who find themselves in difficult situations.
Don't do it. I support allowing people to end marriages due to abuse, but people shouldn't be allowed to divorce for any reason. Once you make the commitment towards marriage, you must understand that it's a lifelong commitment that can only be broken under the most extreme circumstances like abuse.
An OFW living in Dubai for seven years with a resident card is unable to obtain a divorce from her husband in the Philippines from whom she has been separated for 20 years. Ironically in the event the same individual came into the United States whether legally or illegally she might obtain a divorce in the United States.
Ana santos, thank you. Just wanted to add, catholic church is against divorce but during the pandemic, when a lot of people cant travel back to their provinces. Did these churches provided help or food to those jeepney drivers who just slept in their jeepneys?
This is why I'm scared of marrying, there is no divorce here. And I can't marry the man I love because he is still legally bound to his ex wife. So annoying.
See, it is the opposite here, I am afraid because half of marriages end in divorce, and they dont have to say a reason why. Marriage has lost its meaning completely because of this
3:43-3:47 Not really. According to the Catholic Church, a marriage can be annulled in at least three cases, including not only death, but also serious lying about yourself. For example, when a husband knows that he cannot have children, he knows about it and he doesn't inform a woman about it, this marriage is often practically non-existent and can be annulled.
Since we were young "Filipino" they drill it to us that marriage is sacred and you have to be serious about it. We are the last two nation in the world that don't have divorce, I remember a priest in a debate about divorce saying "Are we being left by time? or are we still holding on on what is right?" And it makes you think deeply, I believe that we are still holding on on what we believe is right. You can get a civil wedding (may be divorce can be apply here) but if you want a church wedding then commit to your vow, to God and to yourself and to your partner (most filipino are separated if there's an abuse in marriage).
She's hiding information in that polling! Yes, most Filipinos are okay with divorce under certain circumstances, such as, abuse. Not like in the west where you can divorce for whatever reason.
That is why it is in good time or bad time. Don’t get pregnant if you don’t want to be in forced marriage. Philippines doesn’t have room for broken marriages.
because annulment is very costly here in the Philippines if the annulment the way is not expensive and short term process only . the more the long term and expensive .the people will be having trauma from financially and depress for waiting for the papers .
Im waiting for the day when i will hear divorce is legalized in Philippines my gf is suffering so much with her husband as he used to beat her always , curse her , and now she has left him but unfortunately cant marry me. Which is deeply saddening
@@seikimachan but how would she be able to get India citizenship if she renounces Filipino citizenship im very patiently waiting for divorce to be legal in Philippines.
@@Thepatriotickashmiri Then she must live with you in India for few years. Just follow the laws there. If she becomes naturalized Indian and subsequently renounced her Filipino citizenship, she can for divorce in India so, she could marry you. The other party, his former husband, will file his petition for judicial recognition of foreign divorce to nullify their marriage. The process time of Judicial Recognition of Foreign Divorce is shorter than Annulment. Your woman must obtain a divorce paper and have it consularized in both Indian and Philippine Embassy before give it to his former husband. Be sure that she is already Indian citizen and no longer a Filipino. That's the only way for Filipinos to obtain divorce by renouncing their citizenship by birth in favor of obtaining any foreign citizenship. Disclaimer: This is based when I became a legal secretary in a law office about 11 years ago.
@@seikimachan unfortunately she cannot become an Indian citizen by the process of naturalization as she need to spent at least 7 years in India which is impossible on a tourist visa and a long stay visa can only be granted if she applies for the intention of marriage in the marriage registrar's office with me . Which she wont be able to as to do so she needs to get NOC from Filipino embassy and The Embassy wont give NOC cuz she is already in the married records of the country.
The church isn‘t about „love“. It‘s about control. Which is why everybody should think twice before they demand that religions should have more power over our laws! We KNOW that theocracies are horrible! But some people just don‘t want to learn.
depend on which Church you mean the false cult churches i would expect this , however the Real Church that has been called out of Ignorance isn't about that i would suggest doing some research before you post this again
The laws are based on values. That is our value. Until it isn't, these laws remain. Maybe in another 10 years. There are less religious persons in the Phil, much like the rest of the world. There's no political influence. Our body is not separate from our soul. When that happens, the person is usually dead. When a person separates his sould from his body while still breathing, he is basically a zombie.
they use the name of God and bible to manipulate the people in the Philippines so they can excuse the solution..they are suggesting annulment but they dont help even one peso
Philippine must have a divorce law already. even politicians here have already separated from their husband or wife and is already in relation with another.
There even nursery rhymes in the Philippines, or at least my hometown, we sing "casal camo sa padi, daing bawi bawi"..."you are married by the priest, you cannot undo it, never".
You can file a divorce in Pennsylvsnia after living here 90 days. The problem is obtaining a tourist visa to come to the U.S.. How csn you file for a Fiance 90 day visa for a Filipina unless she is already divorced?
In the first place, there is no Divorce Law in the Phils, therefore you cannot say it is illegal. Properly, you can state, divorce is not yet allowed. Hows that?
Filipin should do revolution mental, ppls there should brave to speak up on media. Make it viral on social media, Let everyone in this world know, so that the government there is ashamed. If it goes viral, the government will definitely handle it quickly, trust me. That's how it works nowadays, if it goes viral, it will definitely be handled quickly
Non catholic have divorce, so why catholic dont have divorce we are all Filipino citizen, annullment is unfair law we need to be free to our abusive relationship, we are the one suffering and cant move on.. we need 2nd chance to be love and to be happy and we dont want to live in a sin
the bottom line is, S.X is necessary or essential for the society to survive, while Marriage is conventional but only given importance because of hypocritical in/doctrination. Marriage establishes order in the society and so has to regulate relationship including S.X, but marriage is not absolute across time and life. The point is, divorce is likewise necessary in order to give a formal exit to marriage (being conventional) when it does not work anymore or does undermine the welfare of any in the family. There is no need any more to prove about psychological incapacity, etc.; there is no more need to make a lie or pretensions anymore just to avail annulment in court. When marriage does not work anymore, it is done, unless both are willing to give it a second chance under a favorable circumstance. Further, divorce should not be as dramatic as annulment, for in divorce bill, psychological intervention is part of in the transition framework towards a re-energized life. Yes, there is fear/doubt in marriage as well as in divorce, and the success of someone's relationship does not justify the continued curse of someone else's life. The question of expenses or to the eternal vow of marriage is superficial against the primary necessity of S.X and happiness of each in the society.
If divorce didn’t inevitably lead to the family destroying disaster that is no fault divorce I suspect there wouldn’t be as much pushback against it. But there definitely needs to be something in place for these marriages where there is clear and obvious abandonment or abuse, and it shouldn’t be paywalled behind hundreds of thousands in legal fees.
This is the choice of the majority, People in the Philippines always voted for those people in SENATE specifically. Shout out to Sen. Villanueva, Who also drags the SOGIE bill passing. Eck. Hypocrisy at its finest.
I hope they change the law but should somehow protect the value of marriage as a filipina, i'm still hoping that if i marry, i'll marry once for a lifetime 😭 praying to God please help me met and choose the right one 🙏🏻
@@natajean10 No the feminine men wouldnt survive in a traditional country. I can barely survive in feminist America. Im just saving money and will either die alone farming or move to another country. I dont care to spend time with jealous and selfish people.
Lets be honest: the problem is not divorce. The problem is marriage. It is an outdate ceremony that simply does not fit modern society. Thats why so many marriages fail. What constitutes a relationship and family in 2023 is totally different than what it was back in biblical days. GET rid of marriage and then there is no need for divorce. When the love ends you simply go your separate ways.
Wow. The Catholic church is moral. The Catholic church is the longest and one if the largest pagon religion in the world. Look st the record of the priests.
This report was biased. DW presented an emotive case and then misrepresented Catholicism. It presented an anti-Catholic pro-divorce commentator but not any representative from the Catholic Church. Annulment is not against Catholic values. It actually was not the Catholic Church that was preventing annulment in the reported case; it was the state. In Catholicism, it is not supposed to be the state that grants or refuses annulments, it should be the Church itself.
Attacking the news media again. You say it is not the Catholic Church when in fact legislation for Reproductive Health Bill was so contentious because of the catholic priests who have been intrusive all of these years.
There are several ways that are used in the Philippines. There is annulment, nullity of marriage and legal separation. The problem is, legislators should at least strengthen these laws. We can afford not to have divorce, but at least a semblance of it
@@billyjavier646its because marriage is not always about happiness. All couples even say that in their vows. If a person is not into fulfilling whatever they say on that vow dont marry.
Im not religious but marriage without divorce makes the marriage even more meaningful. What are they thinking? They said," Till death do us part". That is no joke. The woman's story is a lesson for young people, to think first before getting married.
People being trapped in an unhealthy relationship doesn't do anyone any good. Outside of religion, marriage is simply a legal contract. The idea of a contract that can't end, can't be altered, and can't be broken (with penalties, of course) is anathema to the rule of law.
I never got married because I wasn't going to make that commitment. While not very religious ( certainly against organized religion) I kind of uncomfortable straight up lieing to God ( in case there is one)
Wrong. The law states only the husband or wife can bring this to court. Everyone in the Philippines can know you are committing adultery and they do not have the right to put you in jail.
People have a hard time grasping the fact that people change in a relationship. Physical and emotional abuse can start years after marriage.
"Emotional abuse"
@@SubvertTheState troll or just emotionally stunted. Maybe both.
@@marshmallowcello7528whatever story you need to tell yourself. Cant ever be uncomfortable or anything.
@@SubvertTheState I grew up in a broken home and so are many others I know. This isn't an isolated case as you make it out to be.
Their political system has a senate, so, no true democracy because promotes extra power to the bigger parties by the senate tool.
Without love marriage is a prison, divorce is love for loved ones’ future,and future is hope.
All of that "self love" in the form of alimony, child support and half of the assetts.
Their political system has a senate, so, no true democracy because promotes extra power to the bigger parties by the senate tool.
Divorce is a legal conclusion and separate the assets in a right way..and knows.where the custody
Marriage is poison.
Puro kayo love jan unahon nyo muna mga anak nyo bago layo magmahal ng ibang tao
We have to realize that some people dont show their true colors before marriage. Once your married and binded together forever without escape they will show their true behaviour
Then dont marry unless you know each other
You will only find out the true color of your spouse once you are cohabitating as husband and wife.
Its not that simple@@theconqueror742, even the start of marriage can show their sides and its always been whether your partner had been changed from before or not
Divorce is illegal in the Philippines because legislators depend their electoral winnability with the conservative Catholic and Evangelical voters, so a legislator (a district representative) who advocates for allowing absolute divorce is expected to lose in the next legislative election.
Bakit si tatay digong pre? Gusto nya divorce nanalo parin. Anu yan pre, di naman kasi pinaguusapan ng mga tao. Nahihiya siguro.
Very 1800s kind of mindset
You are right.. most of the senators are blocking this bill.. shameless senators
Yes, but the main reason really is because it has never become a priority bill in the first place. The Catholic church has significantly lost its influence in the past few decades so they are not the real barrier here. Based on what I observed, the country just has too many problems to solve and discuss first that it became so easy for legislators to just dismiss divorce
Hypocrite! Alam nmn ng lahat yan! Kahit cmbahn alam nmn na need ng divorce pero,patuloy prin sa pgiging ipokrito at ipokrita,cno b nmn ang gustong mkisma sa taon hindi mo na mahal at di kna masaya,ang gusto ng cmbhn eh khit hindi kna masaya mgptuloy kpa rin sa kasal mo,pno nmn ung mga nkkita n ng ibang mkksma at bumilang n ng anak sa iba at gusto ng mgpakasal.
This is infuriating. I'm abroad but someone there I want to bring to the USA to marry but I can't because she's still married to a man that abandoned her 25yrs ago. She can't get a K1 Visa because she's still married. The annulment process can also be a scam and very expensive. They will extract thousands of dollars from you during the process. This is horrid for her because she shouldn't feel like a "low class lady" when she has someone.
I think the video title should be "Why some Filipinos want their country to have a divorce law again?" as we used to have that until 1950s. The annulment law in the Philippines is just like a divorce law but a very expensive & complicated version of it. The annulment case can lasts for 2 years or longer making it more costly but advantageous for the lawyers. Absence of divorce law in PH shows that many lawmakers in PH love hypocrisy, want to please some church leaders who strongly oppose enactment of divorce bill, don't care about the majority who can't afford to spend for an annulment case & many are probably afraid that their spouses will divorce them & the court might order majority of their properties to be given to innocent spouses since the divorce bills submitted before didn't include no-fault divorce.
As a Filipino man living in the USA. I think the laws in my country should remain the same! I am never been a fan of Divorce, Child Support, or worse, Alimony! Women over here in the USA are taking full advantage of the family courts even though they are the ones who initiated the divorce themselves and their men are not the abuser. Women over here are promiscuous and Infidelity is running rampant here, all because women are given more rights and privileges than men! If they change the laws to legalize divorce in my country, I can 100% bet plenty of innocent good husbands who are not abusers will suffer and infidelity will be more popular than the Catholics can handle! I say NO to legalizing divorce!
Look at that pretzel. You never went to the US. Just sit down, and zip it.
BEING BORN AS A FILIPINO IS ENDLESS SUFFERING FROM CRADLE TO GRAVE.
Would you rather be born in Somalia or North Korea instead? Life can be a lot worse than being born a Filipino
@@bigsmoke4568 so true
I worked in a law office for five years and filing an annulment costs a million worth of filings, pleadings, appearance fee, acceptance fee and attorney's fee even paying for a psychological report by psychologists but it's doesn't mean that you'll be granted. Worse, it takes several years if you are going to appeal with the higher court after being denied.
I would agree with this report!
PS: No wonder how other Filipinos did some shortcuts in a illegal manner.
Yes true cause we are desperate to have freedom its so hard to get justice in our country if you don't have money
May alam po ba kayo Clinical Psychologist?
@@bicolanasilyzel4529 Edith Galura ung alam kong psychologist
Christianity is practiced worldwide….why is it just the Filipino people suffering under this rule?
@@chuck5553 Mixing with Politics
Thank you for an interesting topic.
I am Ukrainian who travelled to Philippines and met friends and got to learn about people a fair bit.
I wish Philippinos courage to make a move and give freedom to people whose lives it affects. At the end of the day you can’t make life choices on behalf of all people. People need a choice to make a decision and they will stand the God’s trial if that’s what the belief is.
The Catholic Church in Philippines can exert its efforts of education and continue their efforts to help the poor and homeless.
If you can enter into a binding contract, and just break the contract and be rewarded for it...Who on Earth would ever enter one? Thats marriage in America, you would have to be a fool to get married in America as a man today.
Their political system has a senate, so, no true democracy because promotes extra power to the bigger parties by the senate tool.
The woman is lying. Coerced marriages are illegal by both the Philippine government and the Catholic Church and is clear ground for annulment, without being overturned. This story is full of lies. And the woman has also chosen to live as an adulteress by the moral standards of her church, the Catholic Church. Therefore, she will never be allowed to remarry. She knows that and yet she has made her choice. Don't feel so sorry for her. This is not a political issue. It is a personal choice she made. As for the DW presentation of this, it is for a social value agenda that is opposed to the Catholic Church. That is why they have misrepresented the situation. Btw, I am in Ukraine.
It's a norm, binding contract sworn till death!
@@SubvertTheStateYou guys just hate marriage in America because there, women don't have to deal with negging men. Women and children don't suffer as much. While here in the Philippines, you men are more than free to leave and hurt a woman as much as you like.
Nothing like living in the 15th century in 2023
Honoring a contract?
Their political system has a senate, so, no true democracy because promotes extra power to the bigger parties by the senate tool.
I feel so bad for her. I hope she finds peace and love.
Im one of the filipina who filed for annullment and because of lack of evidence my annullment was denied,we file a motion for reconsideration to reverse the decision and now i am waiting for the decision...
So stressful this annullment our law here is not fair ,how we can move on if we still used the surname of our husband...
Omg..I feel you situation sis thats why I am.afraid to file Annulment then later on sometime you are scam
Hi mam mg file din po ako ngyun October na curious po ako Anu po evidence and need Ng court na henhenge po pra. M approved po nla ?
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Legalizing divorce just promotes marriages of convenience like the U.S. which has over a 50% divorce rate. People get married for the ring and reception. The sanctity of marriage is just an afterthought.
amen, a vow is a vow
But not legalizing it just prisons women who are getting abused by their husbands
even if it's a vow we don't care if it was made in church since the marriage is already falling apart
@@ronbernardpenero7926 False. Legal separation means women can leave an abusive relationship. If you don’t believe in marriage vows either leave via separation or don’t get married.
@@dillinpicklesworth5698can you stop controlling the life of the people,if you don't help us..focus your preaching every Sunday or focus to fixed the scandals one of your father did..
@@divorcephilippines6768 sorry that you're offended by my simple comment, but it's true, a vow is a vow, if you are too weak to keep your vows, then don't make them.
They should separate church from state. A secular state wouldn't have that that problem.
Then why marry in a church, by a priest. People want to be celebrated by everyone, swear vows before God, be recognized by the State and everyone they know as married. Until their "feelings" change, now it should be easy for someone to change their mind?
@@SubvertTheState Not all marriages are under a religion, i didn't get married under one so your argument doesn't work
@@SubvertTheState "now it should be easy for someone to change their mind?"
Yes obviously it should be easy for someone to change their mind, that is what happens in reality all the time.
@@SubvertTheState not sure if just civil marriages exist in the Philippines
@@SubvertTheStateA church wedding is just a civil wedding with extra frills. It's nothing special.
Anullment is not the same as divorce. It's worse. Anullment is what the Roman Catholic Church has in stead of divorce, but it is not equivalent. It means that the court declares that your marriage never existed. For that, it needs a "proof", and that can be difficult to provide. But saying that the marriage never existed is a lie in most cases. When people marry, they often marry for love. And the marriage is real. When their love disapear, it does not mean they never loved each other. The concept of anullment force people to claim what is not true: to claim that the marriage never existed. The people are forced to lie. And then the court also lies, because it also claims what is not true. And when it is a religious court, then it is a lie before God. That make anullment actuallly anti-religious. Anullment makes lots of harm by forcing people to lie. That is why divorce should be legal everywhere.
One of the possible "poofs" which the Church acknowledge for claiming the marriage never existed is that it was involuntary. That means that the woman in the video is actually one of the rare cases when annullment is possible, even by the strict rules of the church. The fact that it was denied to her is another proof how unjust the Philipino system is and how desperatlelly the country needs to legalize divorces.
@@samuela-aegisdottir there is a child, therefor the church will neither grant Anullment or divorce
Isn’t divorce lying when vows are exchanged to honor each other, “in sickness and in health, till death do you part”? 🤔
annulment is woke law divorce is a real law..
Philippines should change the law. People can choose who ever they want to married. Also philippines shouldn't follow the vatican. I still i don't understand why philippines follow a roman catholic ways. As roman catholic i'm sad of this situation. My message to both Filipino men and women don't enter a relationship that you're unsure of. Appeareance can be deceiving. A person true nature will be reveal to you when you spent you're days with them. Pray 🙏 that this situation will be over for the good of the Filipino people.
If you think praying will change anything, just pray for world peace and end to immediate suffering and starvation etc.
I need to be free I'm separated for 11years already so please be legal the divorce
Legalizing divorce will start the degradation of family values…. Annulment should be granted after physical abuse ( with police and medical records) , infidelity, forced or under a threat marriage and abandonment ( 2 years)…. People sometimes divorce just because their spouse snore a lot or have different goals in life….
There is one additional way some Filipinos obtain divorces. That way is where a Filipino citizen obtains residency or citizenship in another country and obtains a divorce there. If so, that Filipino can legally remarry in another country if only have residency in that country. If they have citizenship, they can remarry in the Philippines based on a valid overseas divorce. Various celebrities have done this but need to have some money. Annulment, Philippines style, is very expensive and time consuming and so is largely limited to the wealthy and privileged there. This is an area of law urgently needing reform. The current bills before the Congress are largely modelled on the former Senator Santiago`s model which is in part fault based and in part minimum separation period based. The proposed law is therefore conservative in contrast to countries like Australia where divorce is not fault based. Just 12 months separation required to show marriage breakdown.
Most Philippines are living in poverty and dont the funds to travel abroad become a citizen and then pay for a divorce. That's expensive
@@LSmoney215 That is why I wrote "some". Most Filipinos do live in poverty as you say, so neither legal option is available to them. That is why divorce must be introduced.
This is true! If one person granted divorce, the other must file judicial recognition of foreign divorce!
So divorce is possible, but only for rich. That is hypocrisy.
You are not 100% correct. It is possible to travel to the U.S. as a tourist. Then go to Nevada for six weeks and get a divorce provided you plan to get married to someone in the U.S. You get have a divorce finalized in Nevada on Saturday and get married in California on Sunday. So, no you do not need to be a resident or Citizen -- at least not in the United States.
I’m not in favor of this. We will be just like other countries. Making marriage like a game of trial and error. Look at other countries, marry today divorce tomorrow
You have the right to be retarded, but don't try to take decisions for orhere.
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Are you familiar with the adage, 'It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer'? By extension, I believe it's preferable for ten individuals to divorce for trivial reasons than for one person with valid grounds to be denied the opportunity to divorce. This analogy underscores the importance of ensuring that those in abusive or intolerable situations have the freedom to seek divorce, akin to safeguarding the rights of the innocent, while acknowledging the complexity of divorce decisions in different circumstances.
@@GoreGahan then don’t marry.
@@GerbsCE Imagine if we applied your logic to other aspects of life. Would we advise against starting a business because there's a risk of failure? Or discourage people from pursuing their dreams because there's a chance they might not succeed? Just as in marriage, where love and commitment are the driving forces, life is full of risks, but it's the pursuit of happiness and fulfillment that makes it worthwhile. Instead of avoiding marriage altogether because of the possibility of divorce, we should focus on supporting healthy relationships and providing resources for those who find themselves in difficult situations.
Don't do it. I support allowing people to end marriages due to abuse, but people shouldn't be allowed to divorce for any reason. Once you make the commitment towards marriage, you must understand that it's a lifelong commitment that can only be broken under the most extreme circumstances like abuse.
god you are so behind the real world
They should change marrige law not divorce law
An OFW living in Dubai for seven years with a resident card is unable to obtain a divorce from her husband in the Philippines from whom she has been separated for 20 years. Ironically in the event the same individual came into the United States whether legally or illegally she might obtain a divorce in the United States.
Ana santos, thank you. Just wanted to add, catholic church is against divorce but during the pandemic, when a lot of people cant travel back to their provinces. Did these churches provided help or food to those jeepney drivers who just slept in their jeepneys?
Keep fighting for your freedoms! Don’t let religion or culture keep you in bondage when you know it’s wrong.
stay strong Philippines
This is why I'm scared of marrying, there is no divorce here. And I can't marry the man I love because he is still legally bound to his ex wife. So annoying.
do not marry
See, it is the opposite here, I am afraid because half of marriages end in divorce, and they dont have to say a reason why. Marriage has lost its meaning completely because of this
3:43-3:47 Not really. According to the Catholic Church, a marriage can be annulled in at least three cases, including not only death, but also serious lying about yourself. For example, when a husband knows that he cannot have children, he knows about it and he doesn't inform a woman about it, this marriage is often practically non-existent and can be annulled.
there's annulment, no need to divorce
Since we were young "Filipino" they drill it to us that marriage is sacred and you have to be serious about it. We are the last two nation in the world that don't have divorce, I remember a priest in a debate about divorce saying "Are we being left by time? or are we still holding on on what is right?" And it makes you think deeply, I believe that we are still holding on on what we believe is right. You can get a civil wedding (may be divorce can be apply here) but if you want a church wedding then commit to your vow, to God and to yourself and to your partner (most filipino are separated if there's an abuse in marriage).
Same story of love life 😢... Hoping and praying divorce will be legalize... Seeking it for 21yrs.
She's hiding information in that polling! Yes, most Filipinos are okay with divorce under certain circumstances, such as, abuse. Not like in the west where you can divorce for whatever reason.
Western women will divorce because of the sky being grey, marriage has lost its meaning here
That is why it is in good time or bad time. Don’t get pregnant if you don’t want to be in forced marriage. Philippines doesn’t have room for broken marriages.
It was a big problem here in Philippines I want the divorce legalised here so that I could be free from my fail marriage
kati lang yan😂
You shouldn’t have gotten married in the first place then.
not-only-women-in-the-philippines-are-suffering..Also-us-men
because annulment is very costly here in the Philippines if the annulment the way is not expensive and short term process only . the more the long term and expensive .the people will be having trauma from financially and depress for waiting for the papers .
Divorce is a basic human right. There must be a way out of a toxic, bad marriage.
Im waiting for the day when i will hear divorce is legalized in Philippines my gf is suffering so much with her husband as he used to beat her always , curse her , and now she has left him but unfortunately cant marry me. Which is deeply saddening
A devout Catholic marrying a Hindu Indian and live where?
Let her renounce Filipino citizenship in favor of foreign one so, both of you could marry!
@@seikimachan but how would she be able to get India citizenship if she renounces Filipino citizenship im very patiently waiting for divorce to be legal in Philippines.
@@Thepatriotickashmiri Then she must live with you in India for few years. Just follow the laws there. If she becomes naturalized Indian and subsequently renounced her Filipino citizenship, she can for divorce in India so, she could marry you. The other party, his former husband, will file his petition for judicial recognition of foreign divorce to nullify their marriage.
The process time of Judicial Recognition of Foreign Divorce is shorter than Annulment. Your woman must obtain a divorce paper and have it consularized in both Indian and Philippine Embassy before give it to his former husband. Be sure that she is already Indian citizen and no longer a Filipino.
That's the only way for Filipinos to obtain divorce by renouncing their citizenship by birth in favor of obtaining any foreign citizenship.
Disclaimer: This is based when I became a legal secretary in a law office about 11 years ago.
@@seikimachan unfortunately she cannot become an Indian citizen by the process of naturalization as she need to spent at least 7 years in India which is impossible on a tourist visa and a long stay visa can only be granted if she applies for the intention of marriage in the marriage registrar's office with me . Which she wont be able to as to do so she needs to get NOC from Filipino embassy and The Embassy wont give NOC cuz she is already in the married records of the country.
Laws in the Philippines ought to be secular.
As a Filipino, that 1986 Constitution esp its Family Code is merely obsolete!
The church isn‘t about „love“.
It‘s about control. Which is why everybody should think twice before they demand that religions should have more power over our laws!
We KNOW that theocracies are horrible! But some people just don‘t want to learn.
depend on which Church you mean
the false cult churches i would expect this , however the Real Church that has been called out of Ignorance isn't about that
i would suggest doing some research before you post this again
The laws are based on values. That is our value. Until it isn't, these laws remain. Maybe in another 10 years. There are less religious persons in the Phil, much like the rest of the world. There's no political influence.
Our body is not separate from our soul. When that happens, the person is usually dead. When a person separates his sould from his body while still breathing, he is basically a zombie.
they use the name of God and bible to manipulate the people in the Philippines so they can excuse the solution..they are suggesting annulment but they dont help even one peso
Philippine must have a divorce law already. even politicians here have already separated from their husband or wife and is already in relation with another.
Same here. I was separated for 18 yrs. I was abandoned with my 2 kids. Yes, not a single cent of legal support
You can go to the public attorney's office. And child abandonment is a violation under Violence Against Women and Children law.
There even nursery rhymes in the Philippines, or at least my hometown, we sing "casal camo sa padi, daing bawi bawi"..."you are married by the priest, you cannot undo it, never".
legal separation makes a lot of sense. wish that was more prevalent in the states where people divorce each other for money all the time
Sure. But there should be an ethical basis and not a hedonistic intent.
I don’t understand why anybody gets married these days. It makes no sense at all.
some people go to other countries to get divorced
The Philippines is hypocrite on this issue.
The Phillipines is a place. Marriage is an oath until death
@@SubvertTheState let me rephrase for your sake. The Filipinos are hypocrites on this issue." ✌️✌️
@@SubvertTheStateya let the husband beat her until the death lol. Poor mindset
@@SubvertTheStateIt's better to break the marital oath than to have a broken bone caused by abusive spouse. Wake-up and move forward not backwards.
You can file a divorce in Pennsylvsnia after living here 90 days. The problem is obtaining a tourist visa to come to the U.S.. How csn you file for a Fiance 90 day visa for a Filipina unless she is already divorced?
Please divorce
Dyan lang yata tayo magkakasundo sa Divorce law ipaglaban niyo yan!
In the first place, there is no Divorce Law in the Phils, therefore you cannot say it is illegal. Properly, you can state, divorce is not yet allowed. Hows that?
God bless the philippines for upholding this beautiful law of God. Next y’all need to get rid of all the imagery
Divorce only benefit a man and not the woman. She can apply for legal separation.
Very toxic law as Filipino I got Scammed 😢
Filipin should do revolution mental, ppls there should brave to speak up on media. Make it viral on social media, Let everyone in this world know, so that the government there is ashamed. If it goes viral, the government will definitely handle it quickly, trust me. That's how it works nowadays, if it goes viral, it will definitely be handled quickly
If politicians don't want to do it, can they have the people decide it via referendum?
Here in the US you can be Catholic and be married and divorced 10 times if you want. Get real.
Divorce is a humain right
Non catholic have divorce, so why catholic dont have divorce we are all Filipino citizen, annullment is unfair law we need to be free to our abusive relationship, we are the one suffering and cant move on.. we need 2nd chance to be love and to be happy and we dont want to live in a sin
the bottom line is, S.X is necessary or essential for the society to survive, while Marriage is conventional but only given importance because of hypocritical in/doctrination. Marriage establishes order in the society and so has to regulate relationship including S.X, but marriage is not absolute across time and life. The point is, divorce is likewise necessary in order to give a formal exit to marriage (being conventional) when it does not work anymore or does undermine the welfare of any in the family. There is no need any more to prove about psychological incapacity, etc.; there is no more need to make a lie or pretensions anymore just to avail annulment in court. When marriage does not work anymore, it is done, unless both are willing to give it a second chance under a favorable circumstance. Further, divorce should not be as dramatic as annulment, for in divorce bill, psychological intervention is part of in the transition framework towards a re-energized life. Yes, there is fear/doubt in marriage as well as in divorce, and the success of someone's relationship does not justify the continued curse of someone else's life. The question of expenses or to the eternal vow of marriage is superficial against the primary necessity of S.X and happiness of each in the society.
If divorce didn’t inevitably lead to the family destroying disaster that is no fault divorce I suspect there wouldn’t be as much pushback against it.
But there definitely needs to be something in place for these marriages where there is clear and obvious abandonment or abuse, and it shouldn’t be paywalled behind hundreds of thousands in legal fees.
Wala nman problema para SA may pera at maka afford SA annulment of marriage,Ang MGA mahirap walang justice ganun manahimik nalang
This is the choice of the majority, People in the Philippines always voted for those people in SENATE specifically. Shout out to Sen. Villanueva, Who also drags the SOGIE bill passing. Eck. Hypocrisy at its finest.
She got pregnant!!! Pregnant 1:07 good for the parents.. learn to not sleep around.
Don’t sleep with men, she married because she got pregnant
Pretty judgemental. I don’t think those people asked for your judgment. Wishing you to get laid at least once this year with or without husband.
Probably true
Don’t get married! It’s a waste of time, energy and money.
I support legalization of divorce because we can't afford Annulment.
I hope they change the law but should somehow protect the value of marriage
as a filipina, i'm still hoping that if i marry,
i'll marry once for a lifetime
😭 praying to God please help me met and choose the right one 🙏🏻
not all like you..your opinion dont generalized to everyone..if you dont want divorce then dont apply..but dont block the other that need it..
Don’t get married there.
@@divorcephilippines6768 MAKASARILI KASI YAN! yes to divorce
Annulment is only to people who have enough money to pay for the annulment is to expensive lot of people cannot afford to pay it
Isn’t this the place where passport bros are fleeing to? 😮
LoL yes to escape from manly leftover western women 😂
@@M3ganwillslay There is an epidemic of feminine men in the west. Now they are fleeing to the 🇵🇭
@@natajean10 feminine men don't come here .only manly men who wanna have a female come to PH . We pinays don't like western trans men
@@natajean10 No the feminine men wouldnt survive in a traditional country. I can barely survive in feminist America. Im just saving money and will either die alone farming or move to another country. I dont care to spend time with jealous and selfish people.
All the law in the philippines designed to make Filipinos suffered and pay a lot of money and still denied
Lets be honest: the problem is not divorce. The problem is marriage. It is an outdate ceremony that simply does not fit modern society. Thats why so many marriages fail. What constitutes a relationship and family in 2023 is totally different than what it was back in biblical days. GET rid of marriage and then there is no need for divorce. When the love ends you simply go your separate ways.
Yes to divorce bill
Not all people in the Philippines are catholics so we need divorce law lot of couples are suffering from bad marriages.
Wow. The Catholic church is moral. The Catholic church is the longest and one if the largest pagon religion in the world. Look st the record of the priests.
Its "Pagan"
Fun fact: before the Spaniards brought Catholicism to the Philippines, Filipinos were pagans. So not a problem.
This report was biased.
DW presented an emotive case and then misrepresented Catholicism. It presented an anti-Catholic pro-divorce commentator but not any representative from the Catholic Church.
Annulment is not against Catholic values.
It actually was not the Catholic Church that was preventing annulment in the reported case; it was the state. In Catholicism, it is not supposed to be the state that grants or refuses annulments, it should be the Church itself.
Attacking the news media again. You say it is not the Catholic Church when in fact legislation for Reproductive Health Bill was so contentious because of the catholic priests who have been intrusive all of these years.
Big yes to divorce bill kaylan pa now na
Yes to divorce!!
If you know there is no divorce, will you take marraige so lightly? Marraige is a serious thing. If you make a mistake you may go to "Prison"
People change.
@@krol09.No, women get bored and want to be excited and enjoy pleasure. So she will just cheat on her husband. Cuz thats what gives her pleasure.
Correct! A person's character may change in time.
There are several ways that are used in the Philippines. There is annulment, nullity of marriage and legal separation. The problem is, legislators should at least strengthen these laws. We can afford not to have divorce, but at least a semblance of it
The Catholic Church are keep meddling with this matter
Only reach people can be out of marriage 🌍🇵🇭😭
i hope we have never been freed from our American colonizers so divorce can be legal here...
Yes to devorce,26 years na po akong hiwalay Bakit pahirapan pa pra ma free nah
I am a Filipino but I am not pro catholic,, why am I suffer just because I am not islam!
Yes to divorce
🌍Help us women to be free🇵🇭
Yah we really need help.we are so vulnerable..and here we are the victims.
Why they Mary men they don’t want to be married to?
happiness is against catholic values.the pope needs to step up in this. and do the right thing. let theses women free.
Maybe they should keep their legs closed until they meet their dream husband
It is not only woman that are caught in bad marriages! Why do people only see from one side?
@@wamnichosuper agree. Take accountability ika nga.
Best be careful who you marry
Live with them for at least one year first!
Ipasa n ninyo po yn para matapos ang paghihirap ng mga niloloko ng kanila mga asawa .
Yong ayaw Ng divorce selfish, corrupt,dahil Hindi na Kikita Ang MGA lawyers
Is the philippines so superior or more morals compared with all the countries have divorce?
Nobody really talks about this in the philippines. I think because only few complains. Many just makes their marriage work.
@@billyjavier646 if so, good for them. How about others not?
@@billyjavier646its because marriage is not always about happiness. All couples even say that in their vows. If a person is not into fulfilling whatever they say on that vow dont marry.
Im not religious but marriage without divorce makes the marriage even more meaningful. What are they thinking? They said," Till death do us part". That is no joke. The woman's story is a lesson for young people, to think first before getting married.
People being trapped in an unhealthy relationship doesn't do anyone any good. Outside of religion, marriage is simply a legal contract. The idea of a contract that can't end, can't be altered, and can't be broken (with penalties, of course) is anathema to the rule of law.
I never got married because I wasn't going to make that commitment.
While not very religious ( certainly against organized religion)
I kind of uncomfortable straight up lieing to God ( in case there is one)
Amen 🙏🏾 bro
People change. It's not hard to understand.
@@krol09. Purpose of marriage is for the child. Not for the happiness of woman or man. Real world is not a cinderalla story.
Yes to divorce bill..go go 💯💯agree for divorce bill👌👌👌👊👊👊👍👍
Meanwhile, millions of American men are playing the world's saddest song on the world's smallest violins...
Dapat ito ang nakikita ng gobyerno. Approve the divorce bill as soon as possible
ang problem kse is tila takot sila sa Simbahan Katoliko!
And yet you pretend to believe that a man in a dress is a victim, and even worst, is a woman.
The options is to point out the church short comings like sexual abuses committed so to lessen there moral correctness
You shouldn’t show the guys photo - or her full face. Adultery is illegal in PH and both can go to jail.
Wrong. The law states only the husband or wife can bring this to court. Everyone in the Philippines can know you are committing adultery and they do not have the right to put you in jail.
So if the husband is such an evil abuser, why isnt she in jail?