Can We Bring Sega's 1969 Gun Fight Back To Life? | Electronics and Cosmetics (Part 2)
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Sega's Gun Fight is an electromechanical arcade game from the late 1960's. We're lucky enough to own one here at the Arcade Archive but it needs a lot of care and attention to make bring it back into service. Today in the restoration series we're focusing on the electronics and more cosmetic restorations. Watch the full series at • Sega Gun Fight Restora...
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What a work of art these old mechanical games were, they must've had a lot of fun (and perhaps a little frustration!) designing and building them.
So good to see this lovely machine being restored. Those old mechanical games were a different experience to the arcade cabs, but equally as mesmerising to a young kid. I love that it was 5P a go, too! 😅
Thanks Bob
You certainly got value for 5p with this game.
I remember playing on that in the arcades when it was new! it's lovely to see you put some love into it.
Wow, this is looking great already. Really can't wait to try it out at The Cave when it's fully operational again. BTW, loving the music to these videos!
I lot of progress! All the bits and pieces look like they are coming up very well. A lot of hard work.
Fascinating to see the mechanical side inside 😎
I can't wait to see the end result, great job guys 👍
This is a brilliant series, I can't wait to see this finished and to visit for a play on it!
Thank you
Excellent episode. Loved the exhibition of the process and how it became almost a DIY type of program. Looking forward to new episodes.
Can't remember if I've said before, but I remember playing this in an arcade in Hornsea, was shoved in a dark corner with all the old games that nobody was interested in.
Really enjoyed this mate, great to see the project progress.
Thanks Dave
Hope your well
Amazing attention to detail, the machine is almost back to factory fresh.
Thanks Ed
I cannot wait to see what this is like once it’s up and working again. I visited the Arcade Archive back last April and saw it then (amazing place btw, I really need to come back!), but couldn’t quite imagine in my mind how it all worked. I’m so glad you’re restoring it now - looking forward to the next episode!
So much hard work! Thanks for doing this and sharing!
This is coming together nicely.
7:10 I'm getting The Thing! flashbacks😆
Brilliant work guys, hope to get to play this at some point, a visit definitely on the cards this year.
😂
Such a joy to see this level of care and attention in restoring a cabinet that's so tactile and mechanical. It really does seem closer to a an old pinball machine in its inner workings when compared to a in comparative terms a more modern microchip based arcade machine. It's bit before my time but I love to see these really old machines brought back to life for everyone to enjoy, you are doing the community a massive service.
Thanks very much, it’s for everyone to enjoy at the museum.
Brilliant restoration, great to see it all coming together 👍👍👍.
It's looking fantastic Alex, great to see the components springing into life after all these years and the speakers sound awesome
Great work on the guns, they look great, when you mentioned chroming I thought that wouldn't be cheap but it sure would look nicer than the paint effect
This is going to be amazing to see finished. Great work both 👍
Thanks James much appreciated mate
Absolutely phenomenal restoration! Will be visiting the museum next week for my 40th birthday, so excited to be able to see the games I grew up playing again!
Great update you two really coming along nicely can't wait to give this ago when it's finished
Thanks Alex
For the chrome paint, you could try a gloss black under it and maybe a lacquer over the top. I've seen this improve the shine.
I wonder if Sega even have one of these in their collection at Japan HQ.
They might try and buy it off you if they haven't and this comes to their attention!
When I'm using chrome paint on my Tonka's I use a grey primer followed by gloss black and then the chrome paint.
Just a note. The reason why chromers charge so much is because what they usually get from people will rarely look good chromed the way it's received. It needs to be mirror polished before any plating can begin, and what they get, is rarely in that state.
You might want to consider nickel plating, which is fairly simple and can be done by any regular person.
Again, you need to spend the time to remove any rust and sand using progressively finer grits, and finally polishing using a buffing wheel and compounds. Once the part looks like you want then you can electroplate nickel onto the part. There are many good videos on RUclips showing that process.
After plating, several coats of clear lacquer will provide protection for years of enjoyment.
Thanks for the tip I might look into that in future 👍
Thats awesome. Thank you. Great work. Love it.
Hello, its lovely to see you push so much time in to this old machine from a very different era of build quality and technology. I've tested lots of different chrome effect paints, and the best one by far is VHT Plate Finish Chrome Plus VHTSP5251 - it gives a very good finish. Lay it on very heavy, just on the verge of running and its drys to a pretty shiny finish.
Thanks for the recommendation but I’ve decided now to get it chromed, the game deserves it.
@@TheArcadeArchive I think that is a very good call! That VHT paint is the best I found out of about 12 different chrome effect sprays, but its not a patch on a real chroming job. The down side is though that the pitting really stands out when you mirror chrome it, so its all in the prep.
Could watch this all day. Great work
Thank you 🙏
I've been enjoying this restoration! It really takes me back; I grew up in the Chicago suburbs in Cook county. My father worked at a tavern, and later, as a coin-op service technician. I remember playing on many vintage EM arcade machines, most of which were manufactured by Chicago Coin; Many people forget that the Chicago area was a major hub for the arcade industry, with companies like Seeburg, Rock-Ola, Chicago Coin, Bally, Miday, Willams, Gottlieb, Stern and Happ based out of the area. Electromechanical arcades beyond old Pinball machines don't get much love these days!
Great work guys!
Great game resto video,loved this thank you guys x
Exceptional work being carried out in this restoration. It's going to look amazing in the end. Saved for generations to come.
It looks amazing 😊
Well done 🏆
Thanks you
£175 vs £10. I know what I'd go for. Coming along really nicely. Top job you two.
Love this series and anything arcade related really. I need to come and visit one day!
Please do, we will have this up and running soon.
Not sure about the durability , but to me the best chrome out of a spray can is by Revell.
Not cheap its 30 euro's here in the netherlands .
I use it on vintage toys and it works perfect.
Theres a few video's on youtube of people comparing it with other brands and it by far is the best out there.
Just a though if you have such a thing again. I would sand down those chrome pieces and nickle plate them it is pretty cheap to do and last so much longer and you can polish it up like chrome to an amazing brightness.
If it’s particularly cold, are you warming the chrome spray paint in warm water before use? You should get better results
Maybe have a new speaker grill cut from stainless steel. Much cheaper and longer lasting.
You should try nickel plating those chrome pieces by electro plating them. Seems like a pretty easy and not terribly expensive process, if you have a power supply.
And once you've got the stuff to do it, I'm sure you'll have a ton of stuff around the museum to electroplate later on anyway.
Thanks I think I’m going to spend the money on Chroming now, the game deserves it.
Regarding the perspex with the logo. If its a hassle, could you not get Neil's mate who did the vinyl cutting for the Sega megatech and have that logo recrreated?
Fifty year old sampling! How the flip does that work then?!
Chroming at home isn't that hard or expensive (I bought a kit for less than 100 US dollars and it will last me a long time), the chemicals needed can be ordered through Amazon, the equipment you most likely already have.
Forget the chrome, DIY Nickel plate would not look out of place.
ohh 175£ to get those 3 small pieces chromed... eeekk! , Matblack paint?
Not sure why, but your voice sounds more like a daytime TV presenter than a RUclipsr.
Get out of here 😂
£175 to chrome those three small parts?! Whoever is charging that has watched too many wild west movies! 🤣
Get yourself an electroplating kit and first lay down some copper layer then the chrome one…
Love these restorations, and that electro-mechanical game is amazing! I hope to visit again towards the end of Summer so hopefully it'll be ready for a game!
You have really done this cabinet justice. I love watching the process. Well done
Thank you
Hopefully you can come down and enjoy it soon
It always seems wild to me that a mechanism with so much mechanical complexity, and presumably a lot of hands-on assembly at the factory, was cost-effective to build for something so frivolous as arcade games. Certainly wouldn't be today.
That’s true and I think that’s why arcade games became more prevalent as well because Pong was so much cheaper to manufacture.
Enjoying your restoration and your observations about how the game works. I have restored this game about 5 years ago and it is performing well to this day.
A few comments if I may.
1. The game external facing metal work is chrome plated including carriage bolts, brackets and the speaker brackets and grill. Try to chrome as much as you can as this bling is not usual and makes the game standout.
2. Before you put all back together the gunmen and the base should be separate from the below gun bracketry (GF-3009 Gun Support) so you can remove/install by removing the two M4 screws in the men plastic base without removing the playfield.
3. Do you have a parts manual and Rev B Schematic? I could send you copy if you do not.
4. the speaker sound is superb. Not like a lot of games stateside. The capacitors etc. may need changing out if outside their limits but still sound great.
5. Do not be surprised if the game play counter has gone around the clock at least once. The game is a tank regarding wear.
6. The small scanning disc (GF-1403) got a lot of wear but there are still available.
7. The score Step-Up units (S-91747) have a tiny spring about 0.007"-gauge wire and about 8 turns if (I remember) that is critical to the stepper clocking consistently. Easy to remake if they are stretched like mine.
Waiting for the next installment.
Regards Steve J.
So it made about 14,433 GBP in its lifetime.
Lookin great!
They do a nice power coat Crome now had a motorcycle mudguard done
great stuff alex, its great to see this come back to life! £175 seems a lot of cash but lets see how the spray can works out maybe? I cant wait to give this a go when you guys are done!
Thanks Paul
Hope you get down to play it.
@@TheArcadeArchive just a matter of time mate
I watched a repair shop recently where Dom re-chromed something with a home kit, basically a kit of materials that stripped the rust then chromed it in a plastic tub, worked well, maybe worth a look if the spray paint doesn’t work.
Oh I need to look into that, thank you 😎👍
@@TheArcadeArchiveI've been trying to find the episode but I can't remember what he restored. But it worked really well.
Dude! I'm loving this series. Super impressed with the video production & tunes too. Keep up the great work 👍
Thanks very much 😊
22:17 Everything's flipped 😁
Considering the amount of work involved in metal prep for rechroming (cleaning, polishing, prep), then the chroming process itself, and the final clean and polish..
£175 was actually quite a reasonable price for a one-off job.
0:46 As you highlighted, you look as if you are quite accustomed to pulling the head off cowboys. Could probably do two at a time - Clearly a man good with his hands ahahaha yes, i'm crude and immature.
p.s. First time seeing your channel, seen you previous on Neil's RMC stuff. Good stuff... Keep it up.
As I've been trying to use cotton swabs to clean delicate or fiddly stuff, I'm finding myself annoyed by how easily they shred up and fall apart. Theres gotta be something better? Wish they made more durable swabs.
Great vid. Lazy and slow way to get rid of the existing paint and rust is to dump the parts in a vinegar bath for a couple of weeks.
Works wonders and the paint literally just slides off in one piece.
Handy if you don't like using paint stripper or don't have any tools.
RetroKrazy did a great video on plating old C64 metal parts that was very impressive and gave great results, cheaper than what you were quoted and hopefully better than the spray. Also would give you a one up on Neil as I don't think he's tried that with his trash to treasures 😂
Should of used just lacquer on the guns, or cold blueing like they use to blacken real guns, and then lacquered over the top. But they still look amazing.
You want to try and get a Taylor Mr Top Gun. loved that back in the 70s
Really interesting! Thankyou!
Looks great guys. This game is pretty cool. I love the added cactus mechanic, pure genius.
A nice touch would be to have ponchos and cowboy hats, a la Clint Eastwood, that people could put on before playing it.
Would add to the vibe.
There is chrome powder coating, looks pretty close to real chrome.
I like the way you pronounce 'electronics' 😁
What “eeeeelectronics” 😂
Awesome job! When I lived in Germany in the early '80s I could get 1 pound in 5 pence pieces for 4.5 dm. The 5 pence piece and the 1 dm piece were so close in size and weight that I could play arcade games/slot machines using a 5 pence piece instead of one full Deutsche Mark. That's about 20 plays as opposed to 4. I was such a rebel :)
All the tricks as a kid hey 😂
Great restoration progression so far😁
Thank you
Hi Alex, since you mentioned about painting miniatures, and you're saying about chroming the metal pieces, I had a thought about another video i saw on RUclips by Adam Savage of Mythbusters fame, painting his Iron Man Mk1 Costume - he takes a number of "Molotow Liquid Chrome" and mixes it for airbrushing onto the suit and applies it - before the suit is weathered back down, the suit really does look like a Chrome job - Might be worth a shot?
Thanks Jon good advice but ive gone with chroming them now.
Amazing work guys! 👍
Thanks Dean
Well done guys, looks like a lot of hours and work going into the restoration. Looking forward to seeing the final result and in person! Keep up the great work and the documentation vids.
Thanks mate
congrats. some project!!
it's starting to look great
Ah, getting those spaghetti western vibes (some of my face movies of all time). This, game is going to be amazing when it's back working. Can't believe the sound is that loud and booming. Sega definitely wanted people to be 'in the game'.
You mentioned that these were around for at least 10 years. I would say even longer because I can remember one of those in the harbour arcade in St Ives Cornwall. I was born in 79 and if I can remember it reasonably clearly it must have been around until at least the mid 80s when I was 5 but I feel like I remember playing it at the age of 10 which would make it still functional after 20 years. I can't wait to find time to pay a visit to you and play it again.
Wow!! You and the team should be immensely proud of what you’ve achieved on this absolute classic. Can’t wait to see the final push to get it complete, and of course, come along to the arcade to have a go!!
Look forward to seeing you again mate
so cool to see it come back to life!
Thanks buddy 😎👍
Excellent work guys! Well done. You are very patient and dedicated to the long hard work of getting this antique cabinet back to life! 👍🏻
Thanks Russ
This is such an impressive project. You guys are really going the extra mile to fully restore that beautiful old machine.
Thank you
metallic vinyl wrap for the chrome pieces could be an option