A few years ago at a continuing education class a few years ago the instructor told us it was never legal to run type NM cable ( yea Romex ) to an outdoor box even thru the back of a bell box lime you did. This cable is not approved for damp or wet locations. Told us to run UF cable. Hope no inspectors looks inside of the two quality Killark aluminum FS boxes that I installed on my outside walls over 45 years ago. A POS flimsy bell box would never remain dry all of them years. Hope the homeowners had a lot of fire insurance , sprinkler system and smoke/CO2 detectors before you showed up. Nice that you went the extra effort using g a deeper 4" junction box ( 1900 box ). Great set up & best in class paint job on your van.
One thing I’ve learned from doing my own wiring now, and its basic wiring, not anything complicated. If I buy another house, make sure I check all the wiring!
It;'s not a bad to hire an electrician to do a quick review and suggest what should be upgraded. I had a customer once move to Massachusettes and call me to ask about a few things at the house he bought.
At the beginning of the video, when you stuck your pinky into the top of that electrical box, I cringed. I then realized you obviously already disconnected the power. LoL
Nice video! At 13:00 in the video, I am surprised that you didn't use "grey duct seal" instead of a white sealant/chalk to seal the hole in the brick wall. Why? Also, according to the NEC, don't they now require a "bubble" cover on outdoor outlets so an electrical plug can be inserted into the outdoor outlet and rain and snow don't get into the electrical circuit?
Hey Ron, I really enjoy your videos. Been in the electrical and power industry almost 40 years. We call that bootleg wiring here in East Tennessee as well. Hahaha!
Great video, as an Industrial journeyman electrician in a factory, my residential experience is limited to what I've done in my own home. I love how you take time to explain things. One question I have on this video, when you're running the wire to the outdoor gfci, is that older white shielded 12/2? I was expecting to see yellow.
@@hugovargas7411 I've seen NM cable that had grey or black, but mostly white plastic outer sheath, depending on the manufacturer and the year. Of course the NEC requires they all be marked with indelible ink or be stamped with the gauge size and number of conductors. It wasn't until about 2002, I believe, that they started color-coding. White is 14ga, yellow 12ga, orange 10ga, and blue 8ga.
Did you call the utility company to turn off the power to the house? How about any grounding rods to install on the side of the garage at 6ft down and 8ft apart with grounding wire to each rod and connecting to the panel box? You didn't show us so, I just thought I would mention it. Thanks for the video I enjoyed it very much.
I haven't started the service upgrade yet but that'll get done when I do. As for calling the power company for a shutdown, here I do not have to do that. I cut it out myself at the start of the day and cut in after the new service is installed.
I usually do use duct seal but I must've been out of it on this day. Around here when inspectors see it used outdoors they want to see the listing on the package to be sure it says FOR OUTDOOR USE. The stuff they sell at Home Depot is GB brand and is not rated for outdoor use.
@@electricianron_New_Jersey that's interesting never knew there's an indoor outdoor rating on duct seal. I've only ever used it for exterior purposes. I'll have to check that out next time I'm at depot or lowes
If I was a betting man, I would bet that house has either, Zinsco or Stab-lok breakers still. And a few to many shared circuit. Keep up the good work. 👍
@@electricianron_New_Jersey Ouch! Guess, Murray was that flavor of the month. Was the panel over filled and crunchie conductors? No. Don't say, I wanna see it, when the video is posted. 😊 👍
It's incredible what people will do when it comes to wiring not realizing how or have no clue that they are creating a future/present dangerous fire or life threatening hazard ! Question, when you made that connection in that 4 × 4 junction box, is it required to have a equipment ground supplied directly to the box itself ?
The sad thing is the existing owners (sellers) of the property probably paid for all that work but never really benefited from the improved safety aspect of this work!
Ron, I am installing an exterior outlet (and box). Would you recommend a watertight strain relief or the romex clamp used in your video? What should the hole size be (through the house, cement board siding)Flex duct or exterior caulking?
Make the hole just large enough to fit the connector. Then continue hole with a 1/2” paddle bit. Plug it with duct seal and use silicone (not caulk) to seal it up. Silicone resists water.
What a mess!!! Reminds me of my mother in laws place. Every visit to her place out of state was, ‘how many things can I fix before we have to leave.’ Kept me busy. Only recommendation would be a bead of caulking on the all weather box, but with a hole at the bottom. Driving rain will probably infiltrate the back connector.
That house is definitely in rough shape with the wiring. Possibly at one time occupied by a low income family that tool whatever shortcuts were needed to save every penny they could while still remaining functional?? I get it, with inflation at levels many folks have never seen in their lifetime and salaries not always keeping up, many family budgets are being stretched to the breaking point, but when it comes to electricity, that's not the place you should be cheaping out on.
I think DIY’ers struggled to learn how to do good wiring. RUclips was invented in April of 2005. Before that, you struggled to find info on how to do any repair. Remember those Time Life Book series ? How to fix your home, I remember trying to find electrical code and how to look things up. It was difficult. I also think homeowners are probably embarrassed to call a pro to fix their messups.
If they can find someone who knows how to make the proper repair. Here in NJ it is unlawful to hire anyone who doesn’t carry a valid electrical license.
WOW! It's amazing that more houses don't burn down. You know this goes on every day, in millions of houses!
this is the best type of content, code violations and repair. like always, clean work!
Thanks for watching the video. Hope you enjoyed it.
Pretwist wire nuts, good man.
....:) Still Impressed....!!!!.....:)
That garage was nasty. The things people do. Nice job.
A few years ago at a continuing education class a few years ago the instructor told us it was never legal to run type NM cable ( yea Romex ) to an outdoor box even thru the back of a bell box lime you did. This cable is not approved for damp or wet locations. Told us to run UF cable. Hope no inspectors looks inside of the two quality Killark aluminum FS boxes that I installed on my outside walls over 45 years ago. A POS flimsy bell box would never remain dry all of them years. Hope the homeowners had a lot of fire insurance , sprinkler system and smoke/CO2 detectors before you showed up. Nice that you went the extra effort using g a deeper 4" junction box ( 1900 box ). Great set up & best in class paint job on your van.
One thing I’ve learned from doing my own wiring now, and its basic wiring, not anything complicated. If I buy another house, make sure I check all the wiring!
It;'s not a bad to hire an electrician to do a quick review and suggest what should be upgraded. I had a customer once move to Massachusettes and call me to ask about a few things at the house he bought.
“This is Trey with gold star inspections and that ain’t right” 😂😂😂
Great content! Lol
Thanks for all your videos. Every time I watch them I feel like am there working with you side by side. Thanks again your a great teacher.
Thank you very much!
I’m surprised you used an MC connector going into the back of the exterior outlet box. You’re lucky the inspector won’t see that.
Loved the use of a level to insure everything is aligned..
The small details sets the pros apart from the rest.
I’m convinced some guys just love to do janky work. They like the “tree house” feel in their garage. It’s weird.
Always a pleasure watching even the simple things...😃😉😎
Nice use of the term objectionable current! Should have cited 250.6 also
Keep fighting the good fight, from a fellow spark in VT
At the beginning of the video, when you stuck your pinky into the top of that electrical box, I cringed. I then realized you obviously already disconnected the power. LoL
I love your videos and this is my 3rd year in the field! Looks like you could use some help and would love to learn from you!
😮🤦♂️ Wow! Love your videos!
Good work! Sorry bout the jets
Nice video! At 13:00 in the video, I am surprised that you didn't use "grey duct seal" instead of a white sealant/chalk to seal the hole in the brick wall. Why? Also, according to the NEC, don't they now require a "bubble" cover on outdoor outlets so an electrical plug can be inserted into the outdoor outlet and rain and snow don't get into the electrical circuit?
I used an accordion cover and I was just out of duct seal.
Hey Ron, I really enjoy your videos. Been in the electrical and power industry almost 40 years. We call that bootleg wiring here in East Tennessee as well. Hahaha!
Love it! Bootleg! 😂😂😂
You should always tape the receptacle in a metal box. It's good practice.
Not true.
does reroute wire on ceiling need run in metal pipe? as wire still expose on garage with code violation , we guess
Great video, as an Industrial journeyman electrician in a factory, my residential experience is limited to what I've done in my own home. I love how you take time to explain things. One question I have on this video, when you're running the wire to the outdoor gfci, is that older white shielded 12/2? I was expecting to see yellow.
I’ve seen 12-2 that is white shielded my house was built in the mid 60s so I imagine they used it back in the day.
@@hugovargas7411 I've seen NM cable that had grey or black, but mostly white plastic outer sheath, depending on the manufacturer and the year. Of course the NEC requires they all be marked with indelible ink or be stamped with the gauge size and number of conductors. It wasn't until about 2002, I believe, that they started color-coding. White is 14ga, yellow 12ga, orange 10ga, and blue 8ga.
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Nice, neat job. Thank you for sharing.
The breaker would trip on too much current or too much heat
Wow, that's some pretty sketchy makeshift stuff you're correcting. Look forward to seeing the next video.
Wait till you see some of the basement!
@@electricianron_New_Jersey This project should have come up for you at Halloween... the haunted spook house!
Did you call the utility company to turn off the power to the house? How about any grounding rods to install on the side of the garage at 6ft down and 8ft apart with grounding wire to each rod and connecting to the panel box? You didn't show us so, I just thought I would mention it. Thanks for the video I enjoyed it very much.
I haven't started the service upgrade yet but that'll get done when I do. As for calling the power company for a shutdown, here I do not have to do that. I cut it out myself at the start of the day and cut in after the new service is installed.
I hope that Milwaukee Tools is a sponsor!!😂
Very nice safety updates and corrections made. great video brother. I would have duct sealed the outdoor gfci.
I usually do use duct seal but I must've been out of it on this day. Around here when inspectors see it used outdoors they want to see the listing on the package to be sure it says FOR OUTDOOR USE. The stuff they sell at Home Depot is GB brand and is not rated for outdoor use.
@@electricianron_New_Jersey that's interesting never knew there's an indoor outdoor rating on duct seal. I've only ever used it for exterior purposes. I'll have to check that out next time I'm at depot or lowes
I love electrical nightmare videos!
If I was a betting man, I would bet that house has either, Zinsco or Stab-lok breakers still. And a few to many shared circuit. Keep up the good work. 👍
That videos coming up soon. It’s actually an old Murray panel I believe. It’s also bootlegged and double tapped.
@@electricianron_New_Jersey Ouch! Guess, Murray was that flavor of the month. Was the panel over filled and crunchie conductors? No. Don't say, I wanna see it, when the video is posted. 😊 👍
@@ptso7580 I'm still waiting to hear from the customer for when they want to do the service. We're supposed to be doing a generator there too.
An electrical inspector once told me that he went to a home that had been "rewired" with lamp cord run behind wood paneling. 😂
It's incredible what people will do when it comes to wiring not realizing how or have no clue that they are creating a future/present dangerous fire or life threatening hazard !
Question, when you made that connection in that 4 × 4 junction box, is it required to have a equipment ground supplied directly to the box itself ?
Yes, the code says anything that can become energized shall be bonded to the equipment grounding conductor.
The sad thing is the existing owners (sellers) of the property probably paid for all that work but never really benefited from the improved safety aspect of this work!
Unfortuneately, it was the homeowner that created this mess in the first place. Glad you enjoyed the video.
Ron, I am installing an exterior outlet (and box). Would you recommend a watertight strain relief or the romex clamp used in your video? What should the hole size be (through the house, cement board siding)Flex duct or exterior caulking?
Make the hole just large enough to fit the connector. Then continue hole with a 1/2” paddle bit. Plug it with duct seal and use silicone (not caulk) to seal it up. Silicone resists water.
Nice view
Good work 👍. Why a hot on right side? Interested.
I'm from Russia, sorry for my English 😎
Are you able to have exposed wire in the garage ?
As long as it’s not subject to physical damage.
@@electricianron_New_Jersey Code here does not allow that
@@SG-zh5xd oh yeah where’s that!
@@electricianron_New_Jersey KC
Wow.
I would run from this house. If the electric is this bad, I can only imagine the plumbing.
Ron, any work Van you can recommend?
Ford Transit 250 mid-roof
@@electricianron_New_Jersey Tx brother, great work as always
What a mess!!! Reminds me of my mother in laws place. Every visit to her place out of state was, ‘how many things can I fix before we have to leave.’ Kept me busy. Only recommendation would be a bead of caulking on the all weather box, but with a hole at the bottom. Driving rain will probably infiltrate the back connector.
This house seems like a nightmare to work on.
This is how money is earned in the electrical trade.
they are so lucky that whole neighbors did not burn down as their electricity mess😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
That house is definitely in rough shape with the wiring. Possibly at one time occupied by a low income family that tool whatever shortcuts were needed to save every penny they could while still remaining functional?? I get it, with inflation at levels many folks have never seen in their lifetime and salaries not always keeping up, many family budgets are being stretched to the breaking point, but when it comes to electricity, that's not the place you should be cheaping out on.
These homeowners owned a gas station and this is a pretty nice neighborhood too. I think the man of the house just liked tinkering with electricity.
I think DIY’ers struggled to learn how to do good wiring. RUclips was invented in April of 2005. Before that, you struggled to find info on how to do any repair. Remember those Time Life Book series ? How to fix your home, I remember trying to find electrical code and how to look things up. It was difficult.
I also think homeowners are probably embarrassed to call a pro to fix their messups.
If they can find someone who knows how to make the proper repair. Here in NJ it is unlawful to hire anyone who doesn’t carry a valid electrical license.
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