Yes, and they're producing good stuff in both product lines. I'd like to see the dual blue in the Light Storm line now. Best color quality I've seen in a light and they introduced that in the Amaran line first.
@@LearnLightAndSoundSessions Really great review and agree with @RobertFeliciano . When I saw the color richness i was immediately dissatisfied and found it lackluster. So when I heard your use cases, I totally agreed with what you said. Although I use primarily nanlite, I do own an Amaran 200x and find that it makes a great utilitarian fill/easy key. And I think if you're looking and can swing it, the color richness from the nanlite 60c is better if you can shell out the extra $250.
A million years ago I stumbled upon some Tascam review video you did, and these days I’m like “Oh!!! Curtis has a new Aputure/Amaran light review!” 😆 I don’t know how we got here, but I’m glad to be here.
Totally agree with everything. Especially when you mentioned using the 200x s as a key and the 150c and 300c as sfx lighting. I really enjoyed the original 200d so when they announced a better fidelity cob for the 200d s, I bought two more. I will also attest to them being the best quality of lights I have ever owned (even better than my more expensive aputure lights)
@@curtisjudd Thanks a lot. you just solved my question. This is the only RUclips channel mentioning the key light usage difference in 150c and 200xs, which critically helped me on deciding which one to be my first key light. Thank you again! And I also do appreciate the way you put conclusions and summary at the beginning, it’s really efficient for viewers to find the information they need and still watch the whole video. (Rather than creating an opening hook and tell nothing insightful in the end.)
@@RESURRECT2 I think 150c is really enough for normal use or RUclips video. I bought the 200xs eventually, and that's an overkill for my simple RUclips video use. In retrospect, 100xs or 60xs can fulfill my needs easily, so I'm sure 150c can do a great job for you too.
Thank you Curtis for this general tech information. Especially about the SSI results giving your best recommendation. For their price and value, i believe it is a good buy for any shooting situation. I might get a couple ;)
@@LearnLightAndSoundSessions out of curiosity, does the RGB light quality on the 300c look well diffused when using the spotlight attachment? I know when using the spot light with the 600c, light projection looked a bit splotchy where you could make out different colored led diodes in the projected light. Have you seen any of that?
Thank Curtis for this INFORMATIVE & UNIQUE video. As of today July 31st, 2024, out of 4 Amaran 150C videos I've watched, yours is the ONLY one that says its daylight quality just acceptable (D55) 73. I'd rather use Amaran 100x S because I need the best quality of DAYLIGHT & TUNGSTEN light possible.
@@curtisjudd Right now, August 11th, 2024, after watching your Godox ML100Bi video, I am torn between it & Amaran 100x S. I love the Godox because of its compact size & support for Single V-mount battery. However its big down side is the color accuracy. The huge disadvantage of Amaran 100x S is I have to use its battery power station with 2 V-mount batteries when I need DC power which make its less mobile.
@@mauriciolee7349 yep, makes it a tough choice. I’d choose color accuracy because I don’t need the portability as much. But your situation may be different.
Hi Curtis, another great review helping me put this line 150/300C into context vs other products. Increasingly you are becoming one of my 'go to' reviewers, whose opinion(s) I like to check out before buying kit in the sound and light arena. I'm an amateur with lots of stills experience over many years, but now trying to teach myself the tech aspects of video and film making. I have just bought an Amaran 200X S, based in part on your opinions re high SSI ratings for use as a key light. I can see how a 150C might also work as an effects and background light, although as I learn I'm tempted to consider buying a second 200X S head before a 150C (for consistency, more power, spare unit etc). I have learnt a lot from your channel. An excellent YT resource, so naturally I subscribed about a year back 😊.
I distrust the bail (bale?) on all these prosumer units tbh. But they seem to be more robust than previously. I definitely agree that they’re better suited for studio use. WRT fragility comparisons, we should also consider replacement/repair costs. Would the cost of completely replacing one of these units be less than replacing an HMI globe? Repairing a buzzing ballast? I prefer old style tungsten and HMI lighting units because that’s what I’m used to. However, I’m retired now and getting back into it as a hobby (after almost 20 years of doing other things). I think if I was working, I’d rather see a truck filled with mole-richardson and arri conventional lights and more robust LED lights. I’d just feel more confident in the equipment.
@@MarcosElMalo2 Oh, yes, these are definitely more consumer/creator focused. I wouldn't trust these on a production truck. The newer Aputure lights, on the other hand, I would trust.
Just stumbled on this Curtis, great review. My BIGGEST frustration with the 200XS is that the new Light Dome III is not compatibale with this model. I don't understand why Amaran / Aputure chose to do this...
I'll repeat what others have said here. I know you did hte review on the 200x, thanks for bringing that one back into the mix. It DOES help out in understanding the "hierarchy" or intended use at least to such a wide range of make/model/product. Hard to keep up sometimes.
Thank you for the always thorough review. I wish you had shown the cable length and also size of ballast comparison with the 300D ballast. Total size and weight difference is key. One of the reasons I don't pulll out my 300D as a one man show is because of the difficulty in size and management... I'm constantly looking for smaller and lighter set ups with the same power. They can be plastic as I'm also very careful with my gear.
Thanks for the review. It answered my biggest question which was concerning the fresnels, which are tuned for the LS light storm 300 and 600. I’ve seen some problems (in reviews) with using the fresnels on the amaran lights. If I can put the 2x big eye on the these new C series Amarans, I think I’m sold.
Summary first! It maybe better for clip views to locate summary to the last part, but I really like it because I can get quick information that I wanted to see without moving back and forth.
The 150c & 300c have +/- G/M this makes them more accurate as far a color reproduction and ability to match the room environment. The 200X S while good, still is not color accurate to a 0.0 correction gel, due to the the lack of +/- G/M. The 150c & 300c can be. So in terms of color accuracy and dialing the exact color you need, the new ones are much better, IMO. Great review!
Easier to match other lights, but not necessarily more accurate, depending on what you compare it to. But yes, these have been really good lights for us.
Hello Curtis and thank you for sharing your experience which allows us to make good choices I already have an APUTURE 120D LED and I would like to buy a second one while remaining in the same brand so that I can share the accessories I hesitate between APUTURE 300x and the amaran 300c model that you have just presented and for the final word you rather recommend the 200x in your video could you give me your opinion please in order to make a good choice knowing that it is strongly recommended to use two-color LEDs despite the loss of power we gain in versatility Thanks for your feedback
The Amaran lights are plastic, very different from the Aputure 1200. So the first question you need to answer for yourself is how important to you is build quality and durability? Do you need RGB? Not knowing the answer to these questions I cannot say. But for me, if I work regularly on location and not having a need for RGB, I would opt for the Aputure 300x.
I've got the Amaran 200x and use it with a Godox lantern. It's great and easy for someone like me who doesn't want to muck around too much. One thing I was wondering is, do these things ever wear out or lose effectiveness at some point? Just curious. Thanks Curtis. I enjoy your presentations and calm demeanor.
the 150c and 300c are both more durableand made of stronger materials than the 200x though. the yoke is metal and the bowen's mount is much stronger than the 200x
Great video. Looking into purchasing my first light but I’m having trouble figuring out how much wattage I need. More specifically I wonder if the 200xs is powerful enough so I can booklight a subject or two from some distance.
@@curtisjuddQ) how would 2 heads both 200X S fare IYO for increased power and positional flexibility vs one more powerful Apurture Lightstorm 300 or 600X Pro do? Clearly a 600 XPro is a lot more cost, waterproof, more rugged etc so by no means a direct alternative.
Thank you Curtis for these reviews. I plan to buy the Amaran 200x S light after I watched you review about it this morning and use it as a KEY light for interviews. I was planning to buy an RGB light like the PIXEL K80 because it's cheaper. Do you think it's better to stick with AMARAN and get an RGB light from them like the 150C or 300C? Or is it better for my small budget to go for the cheaper key light AMARAN 60xs and the RGB 150C?
It depends on how much output you need from your key light. In a space where you can turn off all the other lights and block any light coming in from windows, a smaller light like the 60Xs should be fine. But if you're needing to overpowering any existing light, you'll need a more powerful key light than the 60Xs.
Hey, thanks for the great video. I noticed in the comments that you said you'd take the 150C over the Nanlite Forza 60C. I was was wondering if you could elaborate on why you'd prefer the Amaran?
I am interested in this light, however I am worried about the output. Judging by the specs at 5600k, 300c is less bright than 100d or even 60d, which makes it significantly less versatile. Is that true?
Single color lights are always more efficient that full color lights. I’m not sure what types of lighting designs you do, but for talking head, the 150c was way more sufficient than I needed.
A question. If i have a heavy softbox like lightdome 150, then how can i attach it directly to stand and then attach plastic light like 200x with it. Is there any other adapter i need to attach softbox to stand directly ?
Thanks for the questions. 1) not sure, will need to measure. What color are you looking for the lux measurement on? 2) Microphone is the Sennheiser MKH8050 (link in description)
I use a jaw vice grip to hold on to the outer edge of the soft box's ring and then attach the light to the Bowens mount. Here are several jaw vice grip examples bhpho.to/3rNnLSZ Full disclosure - the link is an affiliate link.
Whats the most affordable LED with the most accurate color rendition ? When I say affordable I'm talking around $150-200 -- Its really a light I will use for painting arts crafts -- LOL!! But Id like something I can reasonably depend on when mixing paint.
Thanks, as always, for the fantastic video. Out of curiosity, why does no one ever use umbrellas for video? This has built in umbrella mount. And umbrellas would seem to be BY FAR cheapest and also more portable. Is there a reason no one ever talks about using them? Also, IF you use umbrella, is common wisdom to SHINE THROUGH or Bounce ? Inquiring Bed & Beer 🍺 Vloggers need to know. Thanks for your videos and words of wisdom. - Eric ZORK Alan & Sweetie [ Professional Poets & Bed 🛏️ & Beer🍺 Vloggers ]
Umbrellas are absolutely an option and valid approach. However, their big downside is that they spill light EVERYWHERE. So if that look works for what you’re trying to do, then it is a great option. But if you want a more complex lighting design with multiple layers, then other modifiers like softboxes are often preferred.
@@curtisjudd thanks so much for clarifying . And 2 more quick questions. With umbrellas what is the different for shoot through for bounce ? And COMPLETELY TANGENTIALLY , since you are the god and guru of audio, what are your thoughts of this new trend of stereo RECEIVERLESS wireless mics with built in 32bit float audio . And, do you know if it’s technically possible for a camera with a wireless revievef yo ever internally record 32bit float audio embedded in the h.265 video ? Does h.265 standard allow it, can 2.4ghz transmit it. It would seem to be a dream if future Sony FX 3 v2s etc could have DJI MIC 2 solutions like Pocket 3 /Dji mic. For silly Bed & Beer 🍺 Vloggers like Sweetie and me the things happening with audio with the DJi Pocket 3 and DJi Mic 2 are AMAZING. and things no one eve though to ask for the recent ADDITIONSL separate internal scratch audio recorded JUST IN CASE wireless fails or you want the ambient audio of internal. Can you consider doing a video on these insanely wonderful new things happening with convenient, easy , automatic wirelesss audio ? Inquiring Bed 🛌 & Beer Vloggers would love to know your words of wisdom. - Eric ZORK Alan & Sweetie [ Professional Poets & Bed 🛏️ & Beer🍺 Vloggers ]
@@curtisjudd I think the not-yet-release DJI MIC 2 kit (that will replace DJI MIC stereo kit) will be AMAZING. Compact , 32bit float and MOSTLY works with DJI mic for RECEIVER LESS stereo audio going straight from mic to camera. No need to plug in mic receiver to the camera. I do think this can and should be the future . Particularly for run and gun. All you do it turn on mics and turn on camera. No cables, no adapters , no mic receivers. Turn on * 2 and hit record. Granted , for the foreseeable future that would probably tie mics to cameras. But maybe not. What are your thoughts on this potential future. DJI has it already with Pocket 3 and (in mono with Action 4). But I think Insta 360 needs to do this for x4 (360 camera obviously REALLY would benefit from no receiver ). But Sony should make a stereo 32bit mic DJI mic 2 like system. Would be great for next Sony cameras. But I don’t hear much chatter about this industry wide. Just what DJI has done. Do you see a future in this kind of change ? - Eric ZORK Alan & Sweetie [ Professional Poets & Bed 🛏️ & Beer🍺 Vloggers ]
@@iamnotapoet I see - by "stereo" you mean two channel wireless microphone systems, got it. 32-bit float is a lot to send over the air, especially in the 2.4GHz range which is often saturated with WiFi and other consumer wireless activity. It isn't impossible, but there's more work to do. In some of the pro systems, they do this in slightly different ways, 24-bit float an example. I don't know if they'll tie mics to cameras - essentially have in-built wireless receivers in the camera. That'll move some of the cost to the camera which means higher camera price, whether you need the receiver or not...so my guess is that it is not likely to be a widely implemented pattern. Maybe in vlogging cameras. But that's just a guess.
Can you test the 150C and 300C to see if there is any flickering problem (electronic shutter)? I own several Aputure Amaran LEDs, such as 200D, 200X, F22C, P60C, b7c... All of them have flickering problems above the electronic shutter 1/250/s, and I own more than 10 LEDs of other brands, never encountered this kind of problem. I have sent a detailed test video with Canon R5 to Aputure, but they replied that due to the large number of camera models, there is no guarantee that there will be no flickering problems when taking pictures with the camera, including Canon R5 & R6 Amaran 150C and 300c are indeed very attractive, very light in weight, but we are worried about flickering, which limits some shooting methods. For example, some cameras need to use electronic shutter for high-speed continuous shooting.
@@curtisjudd I use it for portrait photography, aerial yoga shooting, sports photography, etc. Because aerial yoga requires extremely high-speed continuous shooting, so I chose to use leds I don't know if high speed video also has flickering problem, I only have Canon R5 and R series cameras
@@curtisjudd I also own 8 pieces of Nanlite led lights, and there has been no flickering problem in the previous shooting, and I have used different outputs I have tested the LED of my own Aputure Amaran, the electronic shutter will flicker at 1/250s in the worst case, Aputure Amaran F22C will flicker in any situation, even with full power There is no problem when Aputure Amaran 200D only has full power, but there will be flickering at 50% But Nanlite 15c, 30c, 30x have no flickering problem in the 1/1000s electronic shutter in the test, even if it is not using full power, There will be flickering problem at 1/8000s electronic shutter
@@curtisjudd So would you mind to test, will Aputure Amaran 300C appear flickering stripes when taking pictures with electronic shutter? For example, test 1/500s, 1/1000s shutter, Aputure Amaran 300C output 25, 50 or 100%🙏🙏
I bought the new 60 x s about a week ago. I understand their very different lights for different purposes but if you only could buy one which would you go for. It seems like the 150 c is a whole lot more versatile but if I know I’m gonna be using the light as a key light most of the time the 60 x s feels okay and has some convenience advantages. Would love to hear opinions, I’m thinking of sending the 60 x s back
@@curtisjudd awesome thank you so much for the advice!!! Yeah this is my first real light I like the convenience of the size and power options more so I probably will end up keeping the 60 x s and uprgrading later to get something more like an affect light
yeah I agree with Curtis. the 60x is a nice little box and it does wonders for me. ill never regret buying it. RGB's are great for additional creative lighting for coloration. everyone needs a few solid x or d lights for primary.
Curious to know why you use the key lights at 3200k instead of 5600k-5900k? Genuine question, I've never thought to do this, wasn't sure if there was a benefit for it.
your links are same for both lights. also, i'm confused, the 200x s is 17,000 lm, 90 ssi $350 and 150c is $360 11,000lm. at 74 sii. so why would you buy the more expensive, dimmer, lower sii product?
What do you think about the Amaran 300c vs the Godox SZ150R? I wanna buy a Aputure 300x for my main light, and two other lights for filling and effects, but i can´t decide between those 2 models, i watched both your videos (this one and the Godox Sz150) and still can't decide. Any advice you can give me will be well received
Do these light perform at full power when in rgbww mode? I know it was a weak point for the similar godox light the colored effects were very weak when in that mode
No light uses all of its LEDs when producing colors. It gives you everything it can depending on the color you choose. When using the 300c for the background here, it was set to 30% as one example.
@@curtisjudd Ok thank you for the information. I saw a few reviews saying the color effects were sort of weak when using that mode so I was concerned, and you just taught me something new. Regards....
Do you know or could you check if these lights work with Sidus links magic program pro? I can’t find any information about that anywhere…. As effects lights that would be extremely helpful 😅
It’s the integration in the Sidus app where you can trigger the lights on a timeline with nodes to create flows or fades with several lights. Not as versatile as DMX, but still extremely handy to control Bluetooth enabled lights like that. Sadly not all lights are supported that’s why I ask… when you’re in a scene/group of lights in Sidus link it’s the earth like button in the middle of the bottom menu. When the lights are greyed out they’re not (yet) supported. Do you think you could check?
Probably never going to happen, but you can bet on DJI. The new sensor on their inspire 3 is insane, a stacked 8k bsi sensor not made by Sony. It was a joint program by DJI and a Chinese CMOS maker, so DJI can now make cameras without relying on Sony sensor.
@@sGBUCKO My mistake, looking at the Aputure site, they say the Octadome 120 is compatible which I take to mean that the 300C should be able to support its weight. That's a surprise to me.
No, these are full RGB lights plus bi-color white light. They don't come with a focusing lens, but with their Bowens mounts, you can add one or a soft box or barn doors, or a fresnel lens, or a host of other light modifiers.
Here are the spec pages. Short answer: They're the same physical size but differ in weight by a little and their power supplies are different sizes/weights. www.aputure.com/products/amaran-150c/ www.aputure.com/products/amaran-300c/
No, the color quality is as good as they quality LEDs on the market, just not as good as the Amaran 200x S. These lights do not have “bad color quality.”
@@curtisjudd thanks, i do not buy china products anymore for political reasons. Was a reason I was not interested in Deity products. Or LEWITT I asked you recently. Special if they have WLAN control. I did hope for a Taiwan or Korea production and parts. For example in Germany a lot of artists use Thomann trademark t.bone when they are on a budget. They have the same article very often produced in China and Taiwan. And the service told me it’s not so rare that customers wish explicit products that are not produced in China. The quality of the same product is additional B Level. Manfrotto repair service told me once same problem there. For a china production I guess it’s overpriced. I hope you give the manufacturing place as additional information to as… it’s better if I have to ask allways. This give you and me just a bad mood.
@@DanielaTocan Lmao, I dont think you can find any LED lights at reasonable price range without Chinese components, it might be assembled elsewhere, but most of the components came from China.
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Aputure is being smart.
They're not letting other brands undercut the LS lineup.
They do it themselves.
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They still make LS lights? Seems every new product in the last year and a half has been an amaran product.
@@BrandonPeszko I just bought a 600d PRO at their annual black friday/christmas sale, its a bitching beast of a light. Like a lamborgini.
Yes, and they're producing good stuff in both product lines. I'd like to see the dual blue in the Light Storm line now. Best color quality I've seen in a light and they introduced that in the Amaran line first.
@@LearnLightAndSoundSessions Really great review and agree with @RobertFeliciano . When I saw the color richness i was immediately dissatisfied and found it lackluster. So when I heard your use cases, I totally agreed with what you said. Although I use primarily nanlite, I do own an Amaran 200x and find that it makes a great utilitarian fill/easy key. And I think if you're looking and can swing it, the color richness from the nanlite 60c is better if you can shell out the extra $250.
After looking around for an entire evening - this was exactly the advice reg 150C vs 200xS I was looking for in my hunt for a new key-light
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You are the most underrated RUclipsr I know, this is the right way to review, no bs no distractions, JUST INFORMATION! Keep up😊
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A million years ago I stumbled upon some Tascam review video you did, and these days I’m like “Oh!!! Curtis has a new Aputure/Amaran light review!” 😆 I don’t know how we got here, but I’m glad to be here.
Thanks for coming by, again, Dustin. 👍
Literally answered every question I had after watching the Amaran announcement vid. Timely perfection as usual Curtis, thank you!
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@@LearnLightAndSoundSessions Just saw these at NAB are you going to be there?
@@genealviso1516 Couldn't make it this year, but planning to get back next year.
Totally agree with everything. Especially when you mentioned using the 200x s as a key and the 150c and 300c as sfx lighting. I really enjoyed the original 200d so when they announced a better fidelity cob for the 200d s, I bought two more. I will also attest to them being the best quality of lights I have ever owned (even better than my more expensive aputure lights)
Right on!
@@curtisjudd Thanks a lot. you just solved my question. This is the only RUclips channel mentioning the key light usage difference in 150c and 200xs, which critically helped me on deciding which one to be my first key light. Thank you again!
And I also do appreciate the way you put conclusions and summary at the beginning, it’s really efficient for viewers to find the information they need and still watch the whole video. (Rather than creating an opening hook and tell nothing insightful in the end.)
Can 150c work well for key light too?
@@RESURRECT2 I think 150c is really enough for normal use or RUclips video. I bought the 200xs eventually, and that's an overkill for my simple RUclips video use. In retrospect, 100xs or 60xs can fulfill my needs easily, so I'm sure 150c can do a great job for you too.
Thank you Curtis for this general tech information. Especially about the SSI results giving your best recommendation. For their price and value, i believe it is a good buy for any shooting situation. I might get a couple ;)
Happy lighting!
Yes, I've been waiting on these RGB versions!
Me, too!
@@LearnLightAndSoundSessions out of curiosity, does the RGB light quality on the 300c look well diffused when using the spotlight attachment? I know when using the spot light with the 600c, light projection looked a bit splotchy where you could make out different colored led diodes in the projected light. Have you seen any of that?
No, there's a diffusion lens in front of the COB LED array and it seems to diffuse quite nicely.
Thank Curtis for this INFORMATIVE & UNIQUE video. As of today July 31st, 2024, out of 4 Amaran 150C videos I've watched, yours is the ONLY one that says its daylight quality just acceptable (D55) 73. I'd rather use Amaran 100x S because I need the best quality of DAYLIGHT & TUNGSTEN light possible.
Sounds like you found a good option in the 100x S 👍
@@curtisjudd Right now, August 11th, 2024, after watching your Godox ML100Bi video, I am torn between it & Amaran 100x S. I love the Godox because of its compact size & support for Single V-mount battery. However its big down side is the color accuracy. The huge disadvantage of Amaran 100x S is I have to use its battery power station with 2 V-mount batteries when I need DC power which make its less mobile.
@@mauriciolee7349 yep, makes it a tough choice. I’d choose color accuracy because I don’t need the portability as much. But your situation may be different.
I'm gonna give your ideal kit list a try.
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Since I've been using a lot of Amaran lights for professional purposes, this fits PERFECTLY in my workflow. Thanks Curtis!
You're welcome and happy gaffing!
Not bad. Seems perfectly reasonable. The spotlight add-on sounds intriguing. Thanks for the hard work.
Yes, looking forward to that! I love the original, it is just a tad on the expensive side for "creators".
Hi Curtis, another great review helping me put this line 150/300C into context vs other products. Increasingly you are becoming one of my 'go to' reviewers, whose opinion(s) I like to check out before buying kit in the sound and light arena. I'm an amateur with lots of stills experience over many years, but now trying to teach myself the tech aspects of video and film making. I have just bought an Amaran 200X S, based in part on your opinions re high SSI ratings for use as a key light. I can see how a 150C might also work as an effects and background light, although as I learn I'm tempted to consider buying a second 200X S head before a 150C (for consistency, more power, spare unit etc).
I have learnt a lot from your channel. An excellent YT resource, so naturally I subscribed about a year back 😊.
Thanks so much, Ricky. Happy filming!
Wish this video was first and the announcement was second.. great job!
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i wouldve loved it if there was a little shot of the 200x as a keylight for a quick comparison on screen. great video!
Good point, if you are going to tell that the ssi is not that good compared to the 200x mind as well just show it!
That'll be in the video coming up in a few weeks where we compare halogen lights to various LEDs, including the 200x S.
Probably great for a home studio; I do all location shots so there just not robusk enough.Great view as always Curtis!
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I distrust the bail (bale?) on all these prosumer units tbh. But they seem to be more robust than previously. I definitely agree that they’re better suited for studio use. WRT fragility comparisons, we should also consider replacement/repair costs. Would the cost of completely replacing one of these units be less than replacing an HMI globe? Repairing a buzzing ballast?
I prefer old style tungsten and HMI lighting units because that’s what I’m used to. However, I’m retired now and getting back into it as a hobby (after almost 20 years of doing other things). I think if I was working, I’d rather see a truck filled with mole-richardson and arri conventional lights and more robust LED lights. I’d just feel more confident in the equipment.
@@MarcosElMalo2 Oh, yes, these are definitely more consumer/creator focused. I wouldn't trust these on a production truck. The newer Aputure lights, on the other hand, I would trust.
Just stumbled on this Curtis, great review. My BIGGEST frustration with the 200XS is that the new Light Dome III is not compatibale with this model. I don't understand why Amaran / Aputure chose to do this...
I'll repeat what others have said here. I know you did hte review on the 200x, thanks for bringing that one back into the mix. It DOES help out in understanding the "hierarchy" or intended use at least to such a wide range of make/model/product. Hard to keep up sometimes.
Thanks, Eric.
Thank you for the great review and for the tips!
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Thank you, have a good day ! 😊
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Thank you for the always thorough review. I wish you had shown the cable length and also size of ballast comparison with the 300D ballast. Total size and weight difference is key. One of the reasons I don't pulll out my 300D as a one man show is because of the difficulty in size and management... I'm constantly looking for smaller and lighter set ups with the same power. They can be plastic as I'm also very careful with my gear.
This is MUCH smaller and lighter but the cables are much shorter.
Thanks for the review. It answered my biggest question which was concerning the fresnels, which are tuned for the LS light storm 300 and 600. I’ve seen some problems (in reviews) with using the fresnels on the amaran lights.
If I can put the 2x big eye on the these new C series Amarans, I think I’m sold.
It can, indeed. 👍
was contemplating buy 300c used for new zhiyun 60 light. I have both light from amazon also zhiyun but will focus with 300c
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Summary first! It maybe better for clip views to locate summary to the last part, but I really like it because I can get quick information that I wanted to see without moving back and forth.
We don't care about the RUclips algorithm and baiting people on. If they find our videos useful, they'll watch. If not, we need to make better videos.
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I don’t need those, but they look tempting. Great design.
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The 150c & 300c have +/- G/M this makes them more accurate as far a color reproduction and ability to match the room environment. The 200X S while good, still is not color accurate to a 0.0 correction gel, due to the the lack of +/- G/M. The 150c & 300c can be. So in terms of color accuracy and dialing the exact color you need, the new ones are much better, IMO. Great review!
Easier to match other lights, but not necessarily more accurate, depending on what you compare it to. But yes, these have been really good lights for us.
The 600d pro has an SSI of 72.
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Hello Curtis and thank you for sharing your experience which allows us to make good choices
I already have an APUTURE 120D LED and I would like to buy a second one while remaining in the same brand so that I can share the accessories
I hesitate between APUTURE 300x and the amaran 300c model that you have just presented and for the final word you rather recommend the 200x in your video
could you give me your opinion please in order to make a good choice knowing that it is strongly recommended to use two-color LEDs despite the loss of power we gain in versatility
Thanks for your feedback
The Amaran lights are plastic, very different from the Aputure 1200. So the first question you need to answer for yourself is how important to you is build quality and durability? Do you need RGB? Not knowing the answer to these questions I cannot say. But for me, if I work regularly on location and not having a need for RGB, I would opt for the Aputure 300x.
@@curtisjudd thank you
I've got the Amaran 200x and use it with a Godox lantern. It's great and easy for someone like me who doesn't want to muck around too much. One thing I was wondering is, do these things ever wear out or lose effectiveness at some point? Just curious. Thanks Curtis. I enjoy your presentations and calm demeanor.
Most LED fixtures are rated at around 10,000 hours. I haven’t gotten there yet!
the 150c and 300c are both more durableand made of stronger materials than the 200x though. the yoke is metal and the bowen's mount is much stronger than the 200x
@@Maxedwardspersonal mine sits in the same place in my studio on a c stand using a Kupo grip. It's doing fine.
Great video. Looking into purchasing my first light but I’m having trouble figuring out how much wattage I need. More specifically I wonder if the 200xs is powerful enough so I can booklight a subject or two from some distance.
Mmm, depends on if you’re willing to push higher ISOs on your camera, but I generally would not consider the 200x S as enough for book lighting.
@@curtisjudd That’s what I suspected. Guessing I need a 600W plus fixture for that. Thanks.
@@curtisjuddQ) how would 2 heads both 200X S fare IYO for increased power and positional flexibility vs one more powerful Apurture Lightstorm 300 or 600X Pro do? Clearly a 600 XPro is a lot more cost, waterproof, more rugged etc so by no means a direct alternative.
@@rickymcc9072 For book lighting? 2 could probably work, but again, may need to push higher ISOs to get where you need in terms of exposure.
What are you using as your main light in this video? I just bought the 300c for 380, I'm finally upgrading from Godox lol
Nice Video!! more verstaile options
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Thank you Curtis for these reviews. I plan to buy the Amaran 200x S light after I watched you review about it this morning and use it as a KEY light for interviews. I was planning to buy an RGB light like the PIXEL K80 because it's cheaper. Do you think it's better to stick with AMARAN and get an RGB light from them like the 150C or 300C? Or is it better for my small budget to go for the cheaper key light AMARAN 60xs and the RGB 150C?
It depends on how much output you need from your key light. In a space where you can turn off all the other lights and block any light coming in from windows, a smaller light like the 60Xs should be fine. But if you're needing to overpowering any existing light, you'll need a more powerful key light than the 60Xs.
Hey, thanks for the great video. I noticed in the comments that you said you'd take the 150C over the Nanlite Forza 60C. I was was wondering if you could elaborate on why you'd prefer the Amaran?
More output and a Bowen’s Mount built-in (no need for adapters).
they look pretty nice to be honest, how do you get the white version ? looks very nice 😂
That was an engineering prototype, I'm told.
Nice video! Can decide for RUclips beauty videos better 60 x s or 150 c ? You sound so good what do you used fur sound ?
For skin tones, 60x S. For effects, 150c. Audio gear is listed in the description 👍
Ugh! I just bought the Forza version of this package earlier today. At least it was on sale.
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I am interested in this light, however I am worried about the output. Judging by the specs at 5600k, 300c is less bright than 100d or even 60d, which makes it significantly less versatile. Is that true?
Single color lights are always more efficient that full color lights. I’m not sure what types of lighting designs you do, but for talking head, the 150c was way more sufficient than I needed.
A question. If i have a heavy softbox like lightdome 150, then how can i attach it directly to stand and then attach plastic light like 200x with it. Is there any other adapter i need to attach softbox to stand directly ?
I have the questions:
1. What the brightness at 1% in lux in compare 150c / 300c
2. What the mic did you use in this video?
Thanks for the questions. 1) not sure, will need to measure. What color are you looking for the lux measurement on? 2) Microphone is the Sennheiser MKH8050 (link in description)
@@curtisjudd 1) 5600k
2) thank you for reply!
I am still waiting for the LS 1200x
I hope it includes the dual blue chips they put into the recent Amaran X lights.
How do you mount a softbox on a lightstand as you recommend for big light modifiers?
I use a jaw vice grip to hold on to the outer edge of the soft box's ring and then attach the light to the Bowens mount. Here are several jaw vice grip examples bhpho.to/3rNnLSZ
Full disclosure - the link is an affiliate link.
Whats the most affordable LED with the most accurate color rendition ? When I say affordable I'm talking around $150-200 -- Its really a light I will use for painting arts crafts -- LOL!! But Id like something I can reasonably depend on when mixing paint.
The second generation Amaran 60, 100, and 200x models: ruclips.net/video/bSE0h55yFBg/видео.html
Thanks, as always, for the fantastic video. Out of curiosity, why does no one ever use umbrellas for video? This has built in umbrella mount. And umbrellas would seem to be BY FAR cheapest and also more portable. Is there a reason no one ever talks about using them? Also, IF you use umbrella, is common wisdom to SHINE THROUGH or Bounce ? Inquiring Bed & Beer 🍺 Vloggers need to know. Thanks for your videos and words of wisdom.
- Eric ZORK Alan & Sweetie [ Professional Poets & Bed 🛏️ & Beer🍺 Vloggers ]
Umbrellas are absolutely an option and valid approach. However, their big downside is that they spill light EVERYWHERE. So if that look works for what you’re trying to do, then it is a great option. But if you want a more complex lighting design with multiple layers, then other modifiers like softboxes are often preferred.
@@curtisjudd thanks so much for clarifying . And 2 more quick questions. With umbrellas what is the different for shoot through for bounce ? And COMPLETELY TANGENTIALLY , since you are the god and guru of audio, what are your thoughts of this new trend of stereo RECEIVERLESS wireless mics with built in 32bit float audio . And, do you know if it’s technically possible for a camera with a wireless revievef yo ever internally record 32bit float audio embedded in the h.265 video ? Does h.265 standard allow it, can 2.4ghz transmit it. It would seem to be a dream if future Sony FX 3 v2s etc could have DJI MIC 2 solutions like Pocket 3 /Dji mic. For silly Bed & Beer 🍺 Vloggers like Sweetie and me the things happening with audio with the DJi Pocket 3 and DJi Mic 2 are AMAZING. and things no one eve though to ask for the recent ADDITIONSL separate internal scratch audio recorded JUST IN CASE wireless fails or you want the ambient audio of internal. Can you consider doing a video on these insanely wonderful new things happening with convenient, easy , automatic wirelesss audio ? Inquiring Bed 🛌 & Beer Vloggers would love to know your words of wisdom.
- Eric ZORK Alan & Sweetie [ Professional Poets & Bed 🛏️ & Beer🍺 Vloggers ]
@@iamnotapoet Which stereo body pack recorders are you referring to specifically, please?
@@curtisjudd I think the not-yet-release DJI MIC 2 kit (that will replace DJI MIC stereo kit) will be AMAZING. Compact , 32bit float and MOSTLY works with DJI mic for RECEIVER LESS stereo audio going straight from mic to camera. No need to plug in mic receiver to the camera. I do think this can and should be the future . Particularly for run and gun. All you do it turn on mics and turn on camera. No cables, no adapters , no mic receivers. Turn on * 2 and hit record. Granted , for the foreseeable future that would probably tie mics to cameras. But maybe not. What are your thoughts on this potential future. DJI has it already with Pocket 3 and (in mono with Action 4). But I think Insta 360 needs to do this for x4 (360 camera obviously REALLY would benefit from no receiver ). But Sony should make a stereo 32bit mic DJI mic 2 like system. Would be great for next Sony cameras. But I don’t hear much chatter about this industry wide. Just what DJI has done. Do you see a future in this kind of change ?
- Eric ZORK Alan & Sweetie [ Professional Poets & Bed 🛏️ & Beer🍺 Vloggers ]
@@iamnotapoet I see - by "stereo" you mean two channel wireless microphone systems, got it. 32-bit float is a lot to send over the air, especially in the 2.4GHz range which is often saturated with WiFi and other consumer wireless activity. It isn't impossible, but there's more work to do. In some of the pro systems, they do this in slightly different ways, 24-bit float an example.
I don't know if they'll tie mics to cameras - essentially have in-built wireless receivers in the camera. That'll move some of the cost to the camera which means higher camera price, whether you need the receiver or not...so my guess is that it is not likely to be a widely implemented pattern. Maybe in vlogging cameras. But that's just a guess.
Can you test the 150C and 300C to see if there is any flickering problem (electronic shutter)?
I own several Aputure Amaran LEDs, such as 200D, 200X, F22C, P60C, b7c... All of them have flickering problems above the electronic shutter 1/250/s, and I own more than 10 LEDs of other brands, never encountered this kind of problem.
I have sent a detailed test video with Canon R5 to Aputure, but they replied that due to the large number of camera models, there is no guarantee that there will be no flickering problems when taking pictures with the camera, including Canon R5 & R6
Amaran 150C and 300c are indeed very attractive, very light in weight, but we are worried about flickering, which limits some shooting methods. For example, some cameras need to use electronic shutter for high-speed continuous shooting.
Are you referring to still photography or high speed video?
Also, I suspect it will depend on the dimmer setting.
@@curtisjudd I use it for portrait photography, aerial yoga shooting, sports photography, etc.
Because aerial yoga requires extremely high-speed continuous shooting, so I chose to use leds
I don't know if high speed video also has flickering problem, I only have Canon R5 and R series cameras
@@curtisjudd I also own 8 pieces of Nanlite led lights, and there has been no flickering problem in the previous shooting, and I have used different outputs
I have tested the LED of my own Aputure Amaran, the electronic shutter will flicker at 1/250s in the worst case,
Aputure Amaran F22C will flicker in any situation, even with full power
There is no problem when Aputure Amaran 200D only has full power, but there will be flickering at 50%
But Nanlite 15c, 30c, 30x have no flickering problem in the 1/1000s electronic shutter in the test, even if it is not using full power,
There will be flickering problem at 1/8000s electronic shutter
@@curtisjudd So would you mind to test, will Aputure Amaran 300C appear flickering stripes when taking pictures with electronic shutter?
For example, test 1/500s, 1/1000s shutter, Aputure Amaran 300C output 25, 50 or 100%🙏🙏
73 ssi really isn’t bad. It’s the same as the 1200d pro, and BETTER than the 600d pro (72)
They're all not that great. I'd like to see the product companies achieve better than that and Amaran already has with the 200x S (D55 SSI of 90).
I bought the new 60 x s about a week ago. I understand their very different lights for different purposes but if you only could buy one which would you go for. It seems like the 150 c is a whole lot more versatile but if I know I’m gonna be using the light as a key light most of the time the 60 x s feels okay and has some convenience advantages. Would love to hear opinions, I’m thinking of sending the 60 x s back
If I didn't already have a bi-color light like the 60x, that would be my first buy. Then add an RGB light later.
@@curtisjudd awesome thank you so much for the advice!!! Yeah this is my first real light I like the convenience of the size and power options more so I probably will end up keeping the 60 x s and uprgrading later to get something more like an affect light
yeah I agree with Curtis. the 60x is a nice little box and it does wonders for me. ill never regret buying it. RGB's are great for additional creative lighting for coloration. everyone needs a few solid x or d lights for primary.
Curious to know why you use the key lights at 3200k instead of 5600k-5900k? Genuine question, I've never thought to do this, wasn't sure if there was a benefit for it.
At 3200, most LED lights perform better in terms of color accuracy.
@@curtisjudd wow, great to know!! Thanks!
How does the 300c compare to something like an Aputure 300x in terms of light output? Which one is brighter?
300x no doubt about it. RGB lights are always less powerful than bi-color or daylight equivalent wattages
Agreed with Charles. RGB lights always put out less light because they have to spread that 300W out across several different colored LEDs.
@@AllTheBeef thank you for the insight, wanting to make sure my money is going to the right place!
@@curtisjudd thank you, this is extremely helpful for my next purchase!
Will the existing Aputure Bowens Spotlight 36 degree work with this? Thanks for all your reviews, Curtis.
Forget it, I just noticed you used it in your video. Cheers
Indeed! That's what we used on the concrete wall behind me.
your links are same for both lights. also, i'm confused, the 200x s is 17,000 lm, 90 ssi $350 and 150c is $360 11,000lm. at 74 sii. so why would you buy the more expensive, dimmer, lower sii product?
He 200x S is not an RGB light, it is warm to cool white only.
Will 150c be ok for small room talking head? Do I need 300c?
150 should be fine.
Thank You@@curtisjudd
What do you think about the Amaran 300c vs the Godox SZ150R?
I wanna buy a Aputure 300x for my main light, and two other lights for filling and effects, but i can´t decide between those 2 models, i watched both your videos (this one and the Godox Sz150) and still can't decide.
Any advice you can give me will be well received
They’re pretty similar though from memory, I think the Amaran puts out more light which makes it a bit more versatile.
Do these light perform at full power when in rgbww mode? I know it was a weak point for the similar godox light the colored effects were very weak when in that mode
No light uses all of its LEDs when producing colors. It gives you everything it can depending on the color you choose. When using the 300c for the background here, it was set to 30% as one example.
@@curtisjudd Ok thank you for the information. I saw a few reviews saying the color effects were sort of weak when using that mode so I was concerned, and you just taught me something new. Regards....
Do you know or could you check if these lights work with Sidus links magic program pro? I can’t find any information about that anywhere…. As effects lights that would be extremely helpful 😅
The Sidus Link app will control these lights, yes. Not sure what Sidus Links Magic Program Pro is?
It’s the integration in the Sidus app where you can trigger the lights on a timeline with nodes to create flows or fades with several lights. Not as versatile as DMX, but still extremely handy to control Bluetooth enabled lights like that. Sadly not all lights are supported that’s why I ask… when you’re in a scene/group of lights in Sidus link it’s the earth like button in the middle of the bottom menu. When the lights are greyed out they’re not (yet) supported. Do you think you could check?
What do you think about the Amaran 300 c vs the Godox SZ 300 R ?
Haven't used the Godox, but Godox has really improved the quality of their lights in the last several years.
When will aputure make cameras, then they can undercut REDa nd ARRI.
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Probably never going to happen, but you can bet on DJI. The new sensor on their inspire 3 is insane, a stacked 8k bsi sensor not made by Sony. It was a joint program by DJI and a Chinese CMOS maker, so DJI can now make cameras without relying on Sony sensor.
How do you get the white shell 150c?!?!
That was a prototype.
@@curtisjudd thanks for the heads up 🥲
Can you attach the 120 softbox to this without having to attach it to the stand?
That may be too much for the plastic.
@@curtisjudd Ah okay thanks! Do you know if there is any light at this price range that will hold one?
@@sGBUCKO My mistake, looking at the Aputure site, they say the Octadome 120 is compatible which I take to mean that the 300C should be able to support its weight. That's a surprise to me.
For reference: www.aputure.com/accessory-wizard/?_sf_s=amaran%2520300c
@@curtisjudd That's good to know, thank you for looking for me!
are these like the Aputure LS 60x 60W Bi-Color Adjustable Focusing LED Light
No, these are full RGB lights plus bi-color white light. They don't come with a focusing lens, but with their Bowens mounts, you can add one or a soft box or barn doors, or a fresnel lens, or a host of other light modifiers.
@@curtisjudd what’s the best modifier to use with the 150c to provide different coloured lighting to a 2.5m by 2m backdrop in my studio
@@smallbizdigitalmedia I'd start with a light dome. Unless you want a center-spot gradient, then just use the included hyper-reflector.
Does this review show any RGB output data? I don't think I saw any :(
No, I’m not sure what to show there. Suggestions?
Can I power these at home ??
Yes, easily.
Is the Amaran 150C better than the Forza 60C? It's also cheaper.
I would choose the Amaran 150C
@@curtisjudd Thanks Curtis.
Can the light also do daylight?
Yes
are these brighter than the amaran 60 series?
Yes.
Any softbox can work on these lights ??
Any Bowens mount softbox, yes.
What light stand is that ?
It’s a c-stand (Impact)
Are these two lights the same size and weight?
Here are the spec pages. Short answer: They're the same physical size but differ in weight by a little and their power supplies are different sizes/weights.
www.aputure.com/products/amaran-150c/
www.aputure.com/products/amaran-300c/
0:40 what softbox or diffusion is 150 shooting thru?
Aputure Light Dome II (link in description)
What mic do you use?
For this one, I used the Sennheiser MKH8050.
So much for me buying new tires😅
LOL. No, better buy tires and save up for the lights.
Uuuh, bad color quality... so no choice for me... I prefer having some color filters for the ban door then with a good quality light...
No, the color quality is as good as they quality LEDs on the market, just not as good as the Amaran 200x S. These lights do not have “bad color quality.”
@@curtisjudd oh, its SSI, not TLCI... 77 TLCI would have been very bad... gotta check what SSI is...
@@AnimusNitra-X Yes, Spectral Similarity Index which was defined by the Motion Picture Academy.
Is it a China company or is produced in China? If yes, do you can point to lights produced in Taiwan or another country?
The company is based in US and the products are manufactured in China.
@@curtisjudd thanks, i do not buy china products anymore for political reasons. Was a reason I was not interested in Deity products. Or LEWITT I asked you recently. Special if they have WLAN control. I did hope for a Taiwan or Korea production and parts. For example in Germany a lot of artists use Thomann trademark t.bone when they are on a budget. They have the same article very often produced in China and Taiwan. And the service told me it’s not so rare that customers wish explicit products that are not produced in China. The quality of the same product is additional B Level. Manfrotto repair service told me once same problem there. For a china production I guess it’s overpriced. I hope you give the manufacturing place as additional information to as… it’s better if I have to ask allways. This give you and me just a bad mood.
@@DanielaTocan ok.
@@DanielaTocan Lmao, I dont think you can find any LED lights at reasonable price range without Chinese components, it might be assembled elsewhere, but most of the components came from China.
@@curtisjudd Aputure was founded by both an American and a Chinese, and they have 2 HQ, one in California and one in Shenzhen.