my mother was from Ontario. I remember when I was about 4 we went to Ft. Henry. it was around the same time during the coronation of Elizabeth. I remember watching it on tv at my aunts house in Oakville.
Wow. I've been a fan of the Fort Henry Guard since I was a boy and this is very usual for them: complete, unmatchable perfection. Makes me proud to be a Canadian; makes me glad to be a member of the Commonwealth, and, above all, grateful that we still have the rich well of British military tradition to draw on in the defense of our nation..
You guys and the 78th highlanders really need to do an exchange sometime and get the drill teams and bands together at FH and Citadel Hill/ Fort George
That's so nice I would love to perform there with my or just see an Prussian Fife, Drum, Bugle corp (Spielmannszug) there.. Those uniforms and drill are from an time in which the Commonwealth and Prussia were extremely close allies. And that fort looks epic ♡
@William Norman Are you stupid? Canada declared Independence in 1867, Giving them the title 'CONFEDERATION OF CANADA'. They wanted to be Independent. Empire Loyalist means to be part of the Empire day in and day out, Proud as hell without the inclusion of Independence.
@@whdstudios2441 Bruh Confederation wasn't exactly independence, the Canadian Parliament didn't really control foreign policy at all until the 1920s, 1931 officially, and we weren't technically entirely independent until 1982. Are YOU stupid?
@@whdstudios2441 It's literally in the name, "loyalist". United Empire Loyalists (or just "loyalist") means someone loyal to the empire/Crown. They can also be descendants of loyalists that fled persecution/remained loyal to the Crown during the American Revolutionary War.
Historical treat, should not over look, and 2022 if all foresee our we would economic mess, due all excuses World does for lock downs, pray 🙏 and United States as often think about simple of hope. This Celemomery should identified Cermonary of hope, to say still alive and never give up on terms. Thank you for Podcast, I hope never be erased, from History.
I was a guard in the 90s. These kids are just university students working their way through school. Not military at all. They do this in addition to other duties likes guided tours, artillery firings (cannons)... A hard job but a very rewarding one. Honi soit qui mal y pens BTW when did FHG Drums get rid of the tenor drummers? Anyone know? Also--I'm FHG # 1510
+Lloyd B You were SarMajor in 1995, no? I think I know you by reputation, though we never met in person. I joined in 1996 - when the Guard was reduced to 60 staff and very nearly ceased to exist altogether. We didn't have tenor drums that summer, so if they were still in use in 1995, that was the last year.
fhg1738 Yes, 1995. Nice to "meet" you, so to speak. By reputation? Shit....har har. Wow, the guard really shrank quickly. I don't remember the numbers in '95 but they were lower than when I started when it was 144--if I remember correctly
I noticed that all the musicians of this fife and drum corps carry some sort of double-edged hanger on their uniform belts. I presume that the gladius-length Drummer's Sword, Pattern of 1856, was standard issue with the uniforms this event?
+B. C. Schmerker More than likely, yes. The band swords worn by the members of the Drums are period items rather than reproductions, and the correct accoutrements have been careful researched by the programming department.
Firstly, no army in history drilled like this. Secondly, this serves no practical purpose and would be a complete waste of time in a real military. Looks good, though.
For public entertainment my good man ! These are children, not fighting men ! British grenadier band as example are musician and marching band secondly, fighting men first !
Waterloo3, Many of these tunes are also played as traditional fiddle tunes among traditional fiddlers- like myself. "My love is but a Lass" is one of my favorites, which begins at about 5:05 gets interrupted by the trumpets then ends about 5:39 for those who don't know the tune. Fiddle, fife and drums, where'd they go? Its just fife and drums for the most part anymore... Well, ok fiddling and marching just isn't very complimentary. Still who needs to march all the time?
Rule Britannia! De Gratia Regina Fidelis Defensor! God Save the Queen! May God Bless the United States of America and her Greatest allies, the United Kingdom. France, Germany, Japan, South Korea, Australia, and Israel! Dieu et mon droit.
PotatoSalad I was not but I did not watch it right through and looking again closely at 2.00 I see what you mean as the right turn is a bit ropy and more like a dance floor step. It is good in parts but I saw the FHG at the Edinburgh Tattoo many years ago and the display they put on then could not be faulted.
+Rodger Flitcroft I know you were being very positive about them already but I don't think people realise these are full time University students during the school year. They only do this during the summer!
+Rodger Flitcroft The "ropey" right turn is known (in this unit) as a "Drums' Pivot" - a right turn on the march is a different drill manoeuver that would not work for this part of the sequence. The change-direction movement requires the fifers and drummers to pivot on alternating left or right feet to a musical cue in order to maintain proper dressing. The right turn on the march is only performed on the left foot.
Ah, I see they retained Victorian style uniforms. Gotta love the plumed shako. Also, they march really aggressive yet impressive and I notice a fail from the bass drum when he turned.
I am not familiar with band drill movements, more so with the manual exercises and bayonet exercises. That said I would pretty confidently say yes these movements are a bit or a lot embellished. Though I don't have any evidence to support that theory.
I agree. Its a shame. I don't remember the FHG in the 80's and 90's doing this. Seems like everyone wants to imitate the US Marine Corp Silent Drill Squads or something
A sovereign state needs certain attributes to be a state. Parade regiments be one of them. Obviously theese units do not HAVE to be made of combat troops.
+Simon Raahauge The only attribute of a sovereign state is to have full rights and power over a geographic area, that's it. Marching bands are nice and flashy but are by no names required for sovereignty.
+Simon Raahauge The only attribute of a sovereign state is to have full rights and power over a geographic area, that's it. Marching bands are nice but are by no names required for sovereignty.
I don't agree on that.. A state needs to be able to show it is a state. An opera house, a national theatre, worthy buildings for the parliament, the high court and national police headquarters. It needs a head of state, a head of government and a functioning tax authority and statistics buerau.
Traditional snares and bass drum. None of that drum corps nonsense with tuned basses that sound like bowling balls rolling down stairs. And those quads that are annoying bongos.
This is Canadian high school and college students reenacting British 19th Century troops, so it shouldn't be expected that they match up to British military bands. Pretty darn good for a bunch of kids if you ask me.
my mother was from Ontario. I remember when I was about 4 we went to Ft. Henry. it was around the same time during the coronation of Elizabeth. I remember watching it on tv at my aunts house in Oakville.
Wow. I've been a fan of the Fort Henry Guard since I was a boy and this is very usual for them: complete, unmatchable perfection. Makes me proud to be a Canadian; makes me glad to be a member of the Commonwealth, and, above all, grateful that we still have the rich well of British military tradition to draw on in the defense of our nation..
FHG 2134 checking in for 2023. Also, I'm S1.
You guys and the 78th highlanders really need to do an exchange sometime and get the drill teams and bands together at FH and Citadel Hill/ Fort George
Excellent Gentleman. You do Canada proud.
I love how clearly you can hear McLean yell 'hoy~' and of course the 'Huzzah Drums!' was pretty wicked. All in all, a good show sequence, indeed!
Huzza*
@@thewheelchairhistorian3424 shut up
amazing to see British culture alive and well in Canada, pity our countries aren't still unified in leadership
That's so nice I would love to perform there with my or just see an Prussian Fife, Drum, Bugle corp (Spielmannszug) there.. Those uniforms and drill are from an time in which the Commonwealth and Prussia were extremely close allies. And that fort looks epic ♡
Extremely sharp looking with a wonderful resonance in the courtyard - 🇨🇦 god bless Canada.
very well performed loved the star of the county Down, best of luck from an Ulster man
Me and my dad used to go there a lot best time ever
Very good. If they are students they are doing it well.
Use to go there a lot as a kid
Splendid! God bless the empire loyalists.
@William Norman Are you stupid? Canada declared Independence in 1867, Giving them the title 'CONFEDERATION OF CANADA'. They wanted to be Independent. Empire Loyalist means to be part of the Empire day in and day out, Proud as hell without the inclusion of Independence.
@@whdstudios2441empire loyalist just means to be loyal to the empire
@@whdstudios2441 Bruh Confederation wasn't exactly independence, the Canadian Parliament didn't really control foreign policy at all until the 1920s, 1931 officially, and we weren't technically entirely independent until 1982. Are YOU stupid?
@@whdstudios2441 It's literally in the name, "loyalist". United Empire Loyalists (or just "loyalist") means someone loyal to the empire/Crown. They can also be descendants of loyalists that fled persecution/remained loyal to the Crown during the American Revolutionary War.
I respect the service and hard work. Not for being a Loyalists to the crown.
Absolutely fascinating !!
Historical treat, should not over look, and 2022 if all foresee our we would economic mess, due all excuses World does for lock downs, pray 🙏 and United States as often think about simple of hope. This Celemomery should identified Cermonary of hope, to say still alive and never give up on terms. Thank you for Podcast, I hope never be erased, from History.
Nicely performed
FHG is definitely top-notch. If i vist Canada one day, i'll go see them.
God bless you Canadians more balls then the Yanks back then you had a naughty Special Forces fair play
Two wars our nicer cousins
Rule Britannia!
I was a guard in the 90s. These kids are just university students working their way through school. Not military at all. They do this in addition to other duties likes guided tours, artillery firings (cannons)... A hard job but a very rewarding one. Honi soit qui mal y pens
BTW when did FHG Drums get rid of the tenor drummers? Anyone know? Also--I'm FHG # 1510
+Lloyd B I think the tenor drums disappeared in the late 90s/early 2000s. They're still kept in QM though.
FHG 2235
Seriously? That's too bad. They definitely add something to the whole thing
+Lloyd B You were SarMajor in 1995, no? I think I know you by reputation, though we never met in person. I joined in 1996 - when the Guard was reduced to 60 staff and very nearly ceased to exist altogether. We didn't have tenor drums that summer, so if they were still in use in 1995, that was the last year.
fhg1738 Yes, 1995. Nice to "meet" you, so to speak.
By reputation? Shit....har har.
Wow, the guard really shrank quickly. I don't remember the numbers in '95 but they were lower than when I started when it was 144--if I remember correctly
James W Leave it to an outsider to tell insiders they’re wrong.
And it sounds like you’re confusing Fort Henry with Colonial Williamsburg.
Hail Britain and its children
2:04 bass drummer's pivot is badass as a badass badass
3:32 Bonnie Dundee timestamp for me
Its interesting that a lot of tunes played here are Scots pipe tunes in fact! First rate!
very sharp! R Morton FHG 849
I noticed that all the musicians of this fife and drum corps carry some sort of double-edged hanger on their uniform belts. I presume that the gladius-length Drummer's Sword, Pattern of 1856, was standard issue with the uniforms this event?
+B. C. Schmerker More than likely, yes. The band swords worn by the members of the Drums are period items rather than reproductions, and the correct accoutrements have been careful researched by the programming department.
@@fhg1738 Really? That's pretty interesting.
Why don''t modern British army corps of drums use drill like this? (I know this is a representation of a Canadian regiments drill but still)
You must be joking.
Firstly, no army in history drilled like this. Secondly, this serves no practical purpose and would be a complete waste of time in a real military.
Looks good, though.
For public entertainment my good man ! These are children, not fighting men ! British grenadier band as example are musician and marching band secondly, fighting men first !
Because first their medics and musicians second
just out of curiosity, can you clairify what you mean that no army in history drilled like this?
for whats its worth fort henry is in kingston ontario canada
harvey snarf I’ve been myself and recommended anyone else to go
Waterloo3, Many of these tunes are also played as traditional fiddle tunes among traditional fiddlers- like myself. "My love is but a Lass" is one of my favorites, which begins at about 5:05 gets interrupted by the trumpets then ends about 5:39 for those who don't know the tune. Fiddle, fife and drums, where'd they go? Its just fife and drums for the most part anymore... Well, ok fiddling and marching just isn't very complimentary. Still who needs to march all the time?
6:05 is Rule Britannia (I think)
6:38 I believe is the start of 'The girl I left behind'
6:05 Battle Cry of Freedom
6:38 I Goes to Fight Mit Sigel
these guys are good enough to be passed off as army
GREAT JOB FROM THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
Thanks...We did this all just for you.
Plenty of Welsh tunes for fifes and drums. Shame the Taffies get forgotten again. Otherwise very entertaining and enjoyable.
Does anybody know the name of the song after “My Love is But a Lassie Yet”? It’s on the tip of my tongue, but I can’t remember it for the life of me.
Just checked my Drum Sequence book from that year! Written down as "Brandywine Quickstep". Cheers!
Patrick Gravel Thanks, pal! That would’ve bugged me for years!
oui maman
Rule Britannia! De Gratia Regina Fidelis Defensor! God Save the Queen! May God Bless the United States of America and her Greatest allies, the United Kingdom. France, Germany, Japan, South Korea, Australia, and Israel! Dieu et mon droit.
Israel is no ally just out for themselves. Piss on the bastards.
@@rapier1954 God bless, and has blessed. Israel. And he will continue to bless her, for she is the Lord's anointed.
What was the cadence of infantry regiments in the British Army during this period?
I am no expert but I do not think regular troops could do better.
I hope you are joking
PotatoSalad I was not but I did not watch it right through and looking again closely at 2.00 I see what you mean as the right turn is a bit ropy and more like a dance floor step. It is good in parts but I saw the FHG at the Edinburgh Tattoo many years ago and the display they put on then could not be faulted.
+Rodger Flitcroft I know you were being very positive about them already but I don't think people realise these are full time University students during the school year. They only do this during the summer!
+Rodger Flitcroft The "ropey" right turn is known (in this unit) as a "Drums' Pivot" - a right turn on the march is a different drill manoeuver that would not work for this part of the sequence. The change-direction movement requires the fifers and drummers to pivot on alternating left or right feet to a musical cue in order to maintain proper dressing. The right turn on the march is only performed on the left foot.
You are obviously well out of your depth here.
Ah, I see they retained Victorian style uniforms. Gotta love the plumed shako. Also, they march really aggressive yet impressive and I notice a fail from the bass drum when he turned.
whats the song at the end?
Drummer's Call. Waltzing Maltida is the song played in line formation, right after Scotland the Brave (line formation and rotation). Cheers.
Seems like these drill movements are a bit more embellished then they would have been in the 19th century?
I am not familiar with band drill movements, more so with the manual exercises and bayonet exercises. That said I would pretty confidently say yes these movements are a bit or a lot embellished. Though I don't have any evidence to support that theory.
They are exaggerated, like a US high school marching band, and bear no resemblance to British Line Infantry of any period.
I agree. Its a shame. I don't remember the FHG in the 80's and 90's doing this. Seems like everyone wants to imitate the US Marine Corp Silent Drill Squads or something
@Britannia Modern British Army parade drill also has absolutely nothing to do with Victorian drill.
@Britannia Ok then how so?
A sovereign state needs certain attributes to be a state. Parade regiments be one of them. Obviously theese units do not HAVE to be made of combat troops.
+Simon Raahauge The only attribute of a sovereign state is to have full rights and power over a geographic area, that's it. Marching bands are nice and flashy but are by no names required for sovereignty.
+Simon Raahauge The only attribute of a sovereign state is to have full rights and power over a geographic area, that's it. Marching bands are nice but are by no names required for sovereignty.
I don't agree on that.. A state needs to be able to show it is a state. An opera house, a national theatre, worthy buildings for the parliament, the high court and national police headquarters. It needs a head of state, a head of government and a functioning tax authority and statistics buerau.
Simon Raahauge but by no means a marching band.
Thats Faster then 120 i thought FHG was slower
Tapping it on an expensive met seems no less than 110 no more than 120. The period manual dictated 110.
Traditional snares and bass drum. None of that drum corps nonsense with tuned basses that sound like bowling balls rolling down stairs. And those quads that are annoying bongos.
Discipline !
Not British Grenadiers.
This is Canadian high school and college students reenacting British 19th Century troops, so it shouldn't be expected that they match up to British military bands. Pretty darn good for a bunch of kids if you ask me.
What a terrible crowd! Always bugs me when they sit on their hands during pinwheel.