I think you are missing some key points in the summary that for me, favours the Trek over the SL8 pro at this price point: 1. The Madone SLR is the top of the range OCL900 carbon layup, so equivalent of S-Works with all the stiffness and strength that comes with it. You also get prestige of Project One branding. 2. The Isospeed cut out is not a gimmick, it adds considerable compliance and comfort. I've road tested this bike and it is very comfortable. I expect will be more confortable than SL8 3. As this is Project One the build is entiterely configurable. So when you order you can align precisely to your fit - frame, cockpit stem and bar width, crank length, gear range & cassette size. It's very good system. 4. The bottles and cages do indeed come with bike. 5. Final point which you mention is paint schemes are beautiful - 4 choices all better than SL8 limited choices. The ONLY very marginal benefit of the SL8 is the 200g lighter build. Overall Trek wins hands down for me, hence I'm buying one!
Great analysis. I agree with you on all key points. I bought the new Gen 8 Madone last month. It's the best bike I've ever ridden, although I've not yet ridden the Tarmac SL8 Pro. However, I will be buying a second bike soon, and considering the Tarmac SL8 Pro. The thing with Specialized is, their colors and styling are plain. If you're going to pay top dollar for these bikes, they should be loud and people should know that you're riding it. But then again, there's fans of the simplistic look. I'm going to decide between an endurance bike or another aero bike. I'm thinking Domane or the Tarmac SL8 Pro. If the SL8 Pro is just an identical version of the Madone but from a different company, then I'll just go with the Domane. Real quick, I prefer the Domane over the Specialized Roubaix. Another good thing about Specialized is they offer a greater discount to military (currently at 15%, but used to be 20%). Trek offers a 10% discount. Appreciate your comments.
@ozgurinsan yes, I know that. SL8 is comparable to the Madone. And because of that, I'd rather go with an entirely different bike like the Domane. No need for 2 of the same type bikes.
Nice video as always, I saw the new Madone in my LBS yesterday, I normally like Trek bikes but honestly in the flesh I found the new bike quite unattractive, I’ve opted for the Tarmac SL8, but the S-Works frame, I know it’s not great value in comparison to the Specialized version to only save 100 grams, but fir me it just has to Say S-Works in it 🙈, I’m building it from the parts off my gen 6 Madone, sram Red groupset, and Roval Rapide CL2 wheels 😊
Your magazine did say that the normal sl8 frame is not as good in terms of ride feel, bb stiffness, etc so there is something in the s works if you want the best
@@Millicente I don't want to sway you on your decision but I ordered the frameset of the Trek Madone. The bike is aero and fast. SL8 is a top bike don’t get me wrong but the comfort and quickness of the Madone is insane. My advice will be to test ride both and make your decision.
The SL8 is almost certainly more aero. Tour Magazine tested the previous gen Madone at 207 watts, and the SL8 at 208 watts. In Treks own testing they tested the new Madone using aero bottles against the old Madone using standard round bottles. So with an equal bottle setup the new Madone is less aero than the old one. Which makes it less aero than the SL8. Add in the fact that the new Madone is heavier than the SL8 also. So the Trek is heavier, less aero, more expensive and came out over a year later than the SL8. Bit of a fail on Treks behalf.
@@whackachangchangable then the trek is faster. The lower the watts the faster it is since it’s a measure of watts needed to maintain a speed. Unless tour is using watts in a different way
@@whackachangchangable That’s your opinion but my Madone gen8 build is at 7.0kg with pedals. That’s not heavy imo even Tour de France bikes are at 7.3-7.6kg.
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I think you are missing some key points in the summary that for me, favours the Trek over the SL8 pro at this price point:
1. The Madone SLR is the top of the range OCL900 carbon layup, so equivalent of S-Works with all the stiffness and strength that comes with it. You also get prestige of Project One branding.
2. The Isospeed cut out is not a gimmick, it adds considerable compliance and comfort. I've road tested this bike and it is very comfortable. I expect will be more confortable than SL8
3. As this is Project One the build is entiterely configurable. So when you order you can align precisely to your fit - frame, cockpit stem and bar width, crank length, gear range & cassette size. It's very good system.
4. The bottles and cages do indeed come with bike.
5. Final point which you mention is paint schemes are beautiful - 4 choices all better than SL8 limited choices.
The ONLY very marginal benefit of the SL8 is the 200g lighter build. Overall Trek wins hands down for me, hence I'm buying one!
Are you working for Trek ?
@@ozgurinsan no I just did a lot of research into my next bike!
Great analysis. I agree with you on all key points. I bought the new Gen 8 Madone last month. It's the best bike I've ever ridden, although I've not yet ridden the Tarmac SL8 Pro. However, I will be buying a second bike soon, and considering the Tarmac SL8 Pro. The thing with Specialized is, their colors and styling are plain. If you're going to pay top dollar for these bikes, they should be loud and people should know that you're riding it. But then again, there's fans of the simplistic look. I'm going to decide between an endurance bike or another aero bike. I'm thinking Domane or the Tarmac SL8 Pro. If the SL8 Pro is just an identical version of the Madone but from a different company, then I'll just go with the Domane. Real quick, I prefer the Domane over the Specialized Roubaix. Another good thing about Specialized is they offer a greater discount to military (currently at 15%, but used to be 20%). Trek offers a 10% discount. Appreciate your comments.
@ sl8 and damone have nothing in common.
@ozgurinsan yes, I know that. SL8 is comparable to the Madone. And because of that, I'd rather go with an entirely different bike like the Domane. No need for 2 of the same type bikes.
The Madone's more aero, the SL8s lighter, so the question is do you struggle on flats or on climbs, if on flats go with the Madone, etc.
Nice video as always, I saw the new Madone in my LBS yesterday, I normally like Trek bikes but honestly in the flesh I found the new bike quite unattractive, I’ve opted for the Tarmac SL8, but the S-Works frame, I know it’s not great value in comparison to the Specialized version to only save 100 grams, but fir me it just has to Say S-Works in it 🙈, I’m building it from the parts off my gen 6 Madone, sram Red groupset, and Roval Rapide CL2 wheels 😊
Your magazine did say that the normal sl8 frame is not as good in terms of ride feel, bb stiffness, etc so there is something in the s works if you want the best
Ride the new Madone and ride the sl8. The comfort is so damn good compared to sl8.
@@ekm3820 which tier frames did you ride?
@@Millicente SLR 900 oclv version, size medium. I have a Domane RSL and the Madone is just like the Domane in comfort.
@@ekm3820 SL8 s works version?
I wonder how much more aero the trek is. 300g isn’t much if it’s even a few whole watts more aero
@@Millicente I don't want to sway you on your decision but I ordered the frameset of the Trek Madone. The bike is aero and fast. SL8 is a top bike don’t get me wrong but the comfort and quickness of the Madone is insane. My advice will be to test ride both and make your decision.
@@ekm3820 thanks
The SL8 is almost certainly more aero. Tour Magazine tested the previous gen Madone at 207 watts, and the SL8 at 208 watts. In Treks own testing they tested the new Madone using aero bottles against the old Madone using standard round bottles. So with an equal bottle setup the new Madone is less aero than the old one. Which makes it less aero than the SL8. Add in the fact that the new Madone is heavier than the SL8 also. So the Trek is heavier, less aero, more expensive and came out over a year later than the SL8. Bit of a fail on Treks behalf.
@@whackachangchangable then the trek is faster. The lower the watts the faster it is since it’s a measure of watts needed to maintain a speed. Unless tour is using watts in a different way
@@whackachangchangable That’s your opinion but my Madone gen8 build is at 7.0kg with pedals. That’s not heavy imo even Tour de France bikes are at 7.3-7.6kg.
マドンSLRはミドルグレード以下って事？
The bikes in focus come from different tiers. 😢
The Trek is too gimmicky. I wouldn't spend my money on it..