You definitely will go through batteries if you are constantly hitting buttons keeping it from going into sleep mode. Learn to tap a button as you’re lifting it to your eye and it will be ready to shoot when you get it up there. Also turning off playback and other options in camera will extend the battery life.
After your opinion on mirrorless, I think I'll definitely be staying with my awesome Canon 90D. It does what I need it to do, and being a wildlife photographer, it serves me well. Thanks for another great and informative video Paul 👍
Hi Paul. Good for you for highlighting these issues. I've stuck to my DSLR for all of the reasons you've mentioned plus the lack of decent third party lenses (I'm a Nikon user). Won't be swapping my D850 anytime soon !
Paul, You may need to change the image preview duration in the menu (red menu No7.) Mine is set to 2 secs and after I take a shot I see it for 2 secs and then the viewfinder shows the scene I'm looking at. There are a few choices for you there so see if it makes a difference as you can have it set to no image preview at all. Hope this helps.I have an R6 too and love it, and don't miss my DSLR (80D) other than the top LCD screen with the settings displayed, but I'm not paying another £2k for an R5 to get that!
Many of the issues you mentioned can be overcome. I have the R6 and very quickly got a battery grip for it. This helps with the balance and battery life. For the lag, I’ve got used to half pressing the shutter button when bringing the camera up to my eye by which time it’s usually ready to go. Not sure why you have an image in your viewfinder. Must be something you have set up. There are things to get used to when changing over to mirrorless, but the advantages far outweigh the disadvantages.
I had a 7Dmkii for two years before moving to an R6. I agree with all the things you mentioned but I feel they are very small issues compared to the modern features. I now hand hold, all day easily, the R6 with a RF100-500. Not something you could do with an older DSLR and a Sigma 150-600. Focusing and eye tracking and low light performance are a plus. Yes I too tap a button frequently as I walk about to keep the camera awake. It is surprising to look through the viewfinder and see a non moving picture. Again get the habit after reviewing of setting up the camera to take the next shot. I went to Bempton and spent 6 hours there , took hundreds of pictures and just managed on my only battery. I keep the rear screen closed to save battery. Yes I should get a second battery. With the electronic viewfinder don't you get what you see ? I do use exp comp on one of the thumbwheels but wing, it just using how the scene looks. I've never really used histograms and in post you can move the highs and lows so much. I feel I was seduced by the modern gear and maybe I could have done better with what I had, but the modern gear helps so much.
Just recently changed fron a 7d 2 and 5d 4 to the r6 2 and im just getting my head around all the different functions and the EVF. Will take a few sessions and batteries but so far im glad i swapped up. Your videos help a lot. Thank you.
Oh my, I've been here! I've had my R5 for two and a half years and still have some habits left over from DSLRs. Despite the universal gripe about battery life, I think it's been proven that battery life is not related to how many images you shoot, but how long the sensor and displays are running. I use a short interval before powering down, even though that increases the lag to restart. I've learned to press the shutter as I start to raise the camera to minimize that. I've shut off automatic review and only use manual playback to review. Learn to love the viewfinder histogram - it's way better than looking at the screen to see the exposure. I still have a tendency to center the eye of my subject in the viewfinder so I can use center-point focus, even though that's totally unnecessary with auto eye tracking. But, after all that my success rate is way higher than before.
I haven't switched yet but I will eventually. I'm a Nikon shooter. I watched a video Steve Perry did about battery life for the Z8. He turns the camera off to conserve battery because there is not a lag at startup. When you hit the on switch its ready to shoot.
Wildlife phtographers suffer more than other genres's fellows with short life batteries because long (thus heavy) glass normally drains more baterry power than shorter ones. And maintaining the camara "awake" to have it ready for action is an additional battery sucker. I love my old, reliable and thrifty D500
Hi Paul interesting video, what you've just done is convinced me to stay with my DSLRs really enjoying my 1DX mk2 and still quite like using the mk1 as well, all five points you've made would really frustrate me, especially the battery life!
I have been following your channel for some time and I really enjoy your very interesting videos! Please keep them coming! After many years using 1D cameras (I started with the 1DIII in the days...) I also eventually switched from 1DX to mirrorless. I really enjoy the reduced bulk and noise and the many benefits of the new technology but as you point out it definitely takes a bit of getting used to... Mirrorless cameras have more advanced autofocus, but I still feel initial focus acquisition was faster with the 1DX, but then in fairness I have not tried the R3... The fact that a little camera like the R6 can basically replace a 1DX (which in its time was way more expensive) is really pretty impressive! The camera displays automatically a preview of your shot as a default setting. You want to change it to only show preview when you push the "play" button. Red menu, page 7, Image review OFF. Mirrorless technology is power hungry and one has to keep an eye on the battery level, something you never really thought about with a 1D camera. Using the latest version Canon batteries helps. Older Canon batteries appear to drop off in power faster I found that and my compatible batteries which were ok with DSLR, performed so poorly that I stopped using them. Setting the screen to be off (black) when you do not need it is painless and saves some power.
I recently tried mirrorless for the first time in the form of an Olympus EM1MK2. Many, if not all the same issues while I used it. It took about a week to rewire my brain. I have owned every EOS 1D/1Ds made, plus the first 1Dx and I really like my buttons. However, with mirrorless, there’s so many AF points to choose from that it takes forever to select the right one. If and when it comes time for me to switch to RF, I want a R5 with the AF Smart Controller from the 1Dx III/R3. I’m certain that I am not the only one.
Yes, yes and definitely yes to most of the issues you mentioned. I love the weight of the mirrorless though. For me it's the best part. I use Sony so not sure if that's why the battery issue isn't really there for me, though I doubt I'm out shooting nearly as much as you are. Always have a backup I have learned. Hitting the focus/shutter often but after time it seem just normal. I think it took me longer to get used to using silent shutter option. It still surprises me that it's taking photos... silently. Wonderful video/update. Thanks!
I moved from a 5d4 to the R5 and I have found workarounds for all these issues. (Most of which can be configured through the menus). The battery life is very similar between these two bodies but you are comparing it to a 1D series that has a much larger capacity battery. You can of course add a grip to your R6.
Hated that lag on my RP. Sold it eventually and got back to my 6D. Btw, comments like "turn off some features" to make battery last longer is really funny considering R6 price ...
hi Paul:-) I watch all your videos, I had a 1dx myself and bought, like you, an R6! I used it for 1 month and bought a 1Dx Again. I had the same problem as you. So one day I had to show some pictures to some girls I photographed on the street, but the R6 couldn't show the pictures:-( then it turned out that there was a small drop of water on the sensor under the eye piece. Then I had had enough. sold them all optics, and bought my old 1dx back, and a canon 5D mk lV - I love them both, and it will be a long time before I buy mirrorless Canon again.. mvh Leon (Denmark)
That was very interesting to read Leonard. I do think mirrorless has the advantage overall, but the cameras you have are great. It's whatever works for you!
interesting info -thanks for sharing - suggestion - as you are walking - camera by your side -- when you spot a subject --tap the shutter as you are bringing your arm up and it should be ready to focus by the time it gets to your eye
Gone from D850 to Z8. Definitely shutter lag, I use back button focus so I keep pressing one of the focus modes to keep it active, and yeah battery life sucks.
There is a way to stop the preview mode after taking a photo. So the image will not automatically popup after each shot. I don't recall how I set mine off in r5. But I am sure you will find it in the web. Good luck.
Paul, I came from an Olympus EM1MK2 to the Canon 7D2 and now shoot with the R6 and R7. I missed the OVF at first when I received my R6. The lag you mentioned frustrated me but I trained myself to half press the shutter button as I brought the camera up so no big deal there. I use back button focus. Same thing when viewing pictures actually, as soon as I’m done I half press the shutter button to clear it. It’s funny, the R7 powers up and wakes up almost instantaneously. I wonder why that couldn’t be done with the R5 and R6? I love your channel. Thank you for all you do. The dropping prices of used R5’s are tempting but I am patiently awaiting the R5 mkII. As an extra, I love the reach and pixel density of the R7 but the R6 is my go to especially in lower light. I don’t like going over ISO3200 on the R7 but I don’t worry about ISO on the R6. Take care.
I use my mirror-less cameras (Pansonic s5, Olympus e-m10 mark III) for landscape, street, portrait and travel photography. As I'm not a big sports/wildlife or action photographer , I recently bought the 1DX for £639 with less than 31k clicks because it was so cheap for what it offers. I was using the 5d mark III but will be selling the 5d III soon. You definitely highlighted some of the minor irritations of the R6 but I think the benefits will definitely outweigh the negatives for your photography needs.
Very informative. I'm working with my old EOS 300D, plus recently-acquired 20D and 7D. If I were to move to mirrorless, or add one to my kit bag, I would stick with Canon because of the ability to use my current lenses via the EF > RF adapter. But, I still have a LOT to learn about being a photographer regardless of the hardware, so I'm taking things kind of slowly. If the time comes where I feel that a mirrorless is warranted, it's very helpful that pros such as you post unbiased information like this!
I do a serious amount of photography while travelling to my place in Spain. I have an inverter that plugs into the lighter socket so i can recharge a battery the moment it goes flat. I obviously have spares! The biggest pain I have with mirrorless is the AF, the focus point wanders around and sometimes just hangs on the edge, in certain case I can move it with my nose on the screen. Also it is far too easy to touch the screen and inadvertently change something like the ISO. I went mirrorless for AIAF, flexible rear screen [ for low angle work ] and continuous focusing with video and for the most part I am happy. Still I continue with my 5D4 as my Sigma lenses turn my R5 into a mindless wreck.
I upgraded from 7Dii to R7 and the biggest thing I had adjust to was setting the AF point. As sometimes I do not want Eye AF to run. As I like to have a fixed AF point for certain scene's. So configuring the set was frustrating. As for batteries I have 5 LP-E6, of which 2 are N, 1 is the H and 2 basic. All work in the R7 and I take them with for a days shoot along with a 50,000mamp power pack and neweer battery cradle for charging outvin the field. I a few of these cradles which I put 1 in each bags I use.
I also had the 1D X, bought a EOS R as a second body to try mirrorless, but those issues were exactly the things that make me went back to DSLR, sold the EOS R, sold the 1D X, and i bought a 1D X Mark II... 🍻
Got no issues with batteries with my R6mk2 last winter was in about -20c weather taking photos and i got about 1500 images when I had full battery at start. Yes there are some differences with mirrorless versus DSLR but I definitely don’t want my old 5Dmk4 back that’s for sure 😊
I've always used mirrorless since I started back in around 2016 so I've not really had to get used to anything which is definitely a perk. This is probably just good fortune that I got into mirrorless early as it definitely seems like that's how all cameras are going to be moving forwards.
The only gripe is the battery usage. Like you I have four but invested in a USB charger and portable powerbank, it can also be used in car. Having said that, its a minor gripe compared to the results Im getting with the R5 and the EF 500mm. I'm blown away with keep rate.
I had an R7 updating from 7DII found R7 was frustrating me at everything all the points you mentioned plus rolling shutter issues, i gave it back to the shop i bought from, i dont think i will be tempted to upgraded again.
Camera Lag - when I got my R5 had the same issue. I think, it weirdly has something to do with memory cards. I had an angelbird CFEB card at first and it was unbearably slow. The Sandisk SD cards were a lot better. Now I use a prograde cobalt card, which works best for me.
I switched from the 90D to the R7. While it's nice to have the option of a fully electronic, silent shutter, I've had to get used to switching to electronic first curtain for action in order to prevent the warping effect caused by rolling shutter. This isn't as severe on the R6, because that camera's sensor has a faster readout speed than the R7. Thankfully I can switch between shutter modes with a single press of the button so it's not a huge issue, but it took some adjustment. I also find photographing small subjects in-flight like sand martins and dragonflies harder now, because a shallow depth of field seems much more pronounced through the EVF, meaning I completely lose my subject when the autofocus slips onto the background. And then there's the "smart" hotshoe, which (on my camera at least) seems to make it very easy to nudge the flash out of place, which causes the flash to overexpose. The smart hotshoe's cover is easy to lose too. All that said, I much prefer the R7 to the 90D. The EVF, animal eye detect, IBIS, and option to shoot fully silent have really improved my keeper rate. I'm much more confident in my camera in the vast majority of situations, which has made my shoots all the more enjoyable.
Hey Paul, another great video. I also went from the 1DX to the R6 and felt the same about the battery issue. I ended up getting the canon BG-R10 battery grip. It holds 2 batteries and lasts me all day now. Plus it gives me a little bit of the 1DX feel. Other than that I love the R6 and have adjusted to it well.
I have the R7, and the same things could be an issue, but a few are solved by changing the settings, plus I hardly ever use the screen, as all the info I need is in the viewfinder, and the image is truer to actual cos your seeing what the sensor sees, but if there was only one reason to switch to Mirrorless it is the focus system, once used you could not ho back to dslr, I have even set up the C1,2 and 3 buttons to 3 separate options so still birds, bif and portrait for example, so moving from 500th exp, to 2500 for bif is a flick of the finger, awesome .
I have not encountered any of the issues mentioned in this video.... As I have not switched to mirrorless and never will ...😊. 1Dx does everything I need.
The Lag - i always half-press the shutter while lifting the camera since its only exposure metering. But you can press some other button to wake up the camera on the way to your eye. Dont use ECO mode, it causes all kinds of odd behaviour. 4 batteries is a must, and ideally a grip to use 2 at a time - battery life is more than x2 with the grip because without grip Canon drops frame rates on mechanical shutter from 12 to 8 at 50% battery. Not so when u have a grip, u can almost shoot at 12 fps from 100% to 5%.
I usually half-press the shutter button when I see something, that way when the camera reache my eyes it is already on. I always turn off the picture review mode on every camera, so it does not display me anything after I took the picture. If I want to see what I took I can always push the playback button.
I will stay away from mirrorless as long as I can... I have a 1DX MK1 and its fabulous, combined with good glass this is more than enough for what most photographers ever need. ..... DSLR cameras are good in other aspects as well, say when I shoot portraits or a model for example, then both parties benefit from actually hearing the shutter, and it creates a (slight) bond & "understanding" between the shooter and photographer. The feedback is that both know what is happening and when its happening with a heavy click/click/click to confirm.....
Since I didn't upgrade my Canon DSLR to MILC but Nikon, my difficult experience from D3 to Z6 (with & w/o battery grip) were ergonomic, non-intuitive AF interface and battery life. Luckily, all's well with the Z9 (v3 firmware).
I had battery issues but solved it by buying a Battery Grip, the only downside is the extra weight but having swapped from a 5D mk4 i never noticed the difference.
I bought an R6 last year and it makes me feel like my 5DIII is a really old, outdated machine. The battery life of the R6 doesn't worry me as the batteries are not expensive (I have 7) and I can still use my old 5DIII batteries. The thing I don't like about my R6 is that it's only 20 Mp. If I want to crop a small bird pic, it's not possible. The R5 is better on that point but a lot more expensive.
I let my R5 and R7 go to sleep and when I pull them up to shoot I lightly half press the shutter button. When I get the camera to my eye it is awake and ready to shoot. I have been doing this I got the cameras and it is just muscle memory. I found battery life to be much more dependent on time the camera is on, not in sleep, vs pictures taken. I can get 2000 shots on a single charge, or I can get 600, it depends on how I use the camera. This is true with both my R5 and R7. If you let the camera go to sleep and get used to pressing the shutter button as you pull the camera to your eye, the battery will last longer. There are other settings you can use to increase the battery life as well. That said, I carry two cameras and two spare batteries when I go out shooting.
I think I'll be sticking with my 1DX mk1, had a smaller camera body with a big lens, never felt right and ofthen thought of the strain on the Cameara lens mount, stlll nowt to sway me away from a DSLR with a mirror.
Very interesting....I haven't yet made the switch from my Nikon D810 as I'm so familiar with it, but some of the mirrorless functions really appeal to me. You've made me think.....Hmm, I think I'll keep my current set up for a while and monitor developments.. thanks for sharing your experiences...
@@PaulMiguelPhotography Thanks. As I get older the lighter weight and new features do appeal, but I have so much expensive glass.... Thanks for an interesting channel and sharing it with us.
I find the image in the viewfinder very frustrating because when you see it the brain takes a little time to wonder what is going on before you realise what is happening and this can take a second or so and you can lose the shot.
At 3 minutes the best advice you could give is not stand there waving a camera outdoors exposing the sensor, especially as that camera has a sensor cover when switched off :-)
I'm curious about the focus speed between the 2. Im on the edge with upgrading with all the hype about eye tracking focus. (I mostly shoot sports) any thoughts. ?
If you just used a normal focus, like expanded focus point for example, I'd say it's similar. But the eye focus and subject tracking (e.g. large zone AF) is considerably better. When it locks on it is usually excellent, there are just situations where it might not lock on. Rob Sambles on RUclips is good on this, he shoots sports.
Is there a reason you have not bought a battery grip. Seems like a no brainer, better handling and extra shooting time. I use grips on my DSLR's going back to my old Canon 5D's. I like you vids. but this one confuses me.
Not at all. I thought very hard before changing. A good DSLR is still worthwhile in my opinion. My mirrorless however allows me to do things my DSLR just couldn't do
What is a good replacement for 1DX from another brand or even from Canon rather than 1DX2 or 1DX3? I want to get a replacement for my Canon 1D3 first, then later i can think about a replacement for 1DX if necessary, but i feel like i will hold longer on my 1DX until i see that mirrorless camera affordable enough to outperform DSLR mainly 1DX line for sports/actions still burst, i am not a videographer.
I've never really used other brands. For Canon I don't think there's much I would replace the 1DX with. It's a great camera - just heavy.. and noisy! I'm very happy with the R6 now.
@@PaulMiguelPhotography I am happy with 1DX and i have no big reason or even a strong issue to replace it, it is only that i want to replace to be upgraded to latest technologies, that is why i wanted to gt rid of 1D3 first as it is really not that great camera anymore, but 1DX served me perfectly, and the weight isn't a problem for me.
Would you recommend switching to an R6 over a 1D X? I’ve recently bought a 1DX which is/was my dream camera but I’m worried about the discontinuation of EF lenses (even though I buy secondhand only) Im worried that this change is fundamental and maybe I should be swapping over to the R6 over the 1D X or do you reckon I’m safe sticking with the 1DX or should I be looking to make the move?
The DX along with EF lenses is still great equipment. You'll benefit from a silent shutter.. and focus is better. But if what you have works, you do not have to change. You will find it harder over time to get the EF lenses and another issue is repairing lenses - so if it's an older EF lens the likelihood is you couldn't get it repaired.
You definitely will go through batteries if you are constantly hitting buttons keeping it from going into sleep mode. Learn to tap a button as you’re lifting it to your eye and it will be ready to shoot when you get it up there. Also turning off playback and other options in camera will extend the battery life.
After your opinion on mirrorless, I think I'll definitely be staying with my awesome Canon 90D. It does what I need it to do, and being a wildlife photographer, it serves me well. Thanks for another great and informative video Paul 👍
You have no idea what you’re missing out😂
U missing a lot but dont get R7.
I thought the same thing, but gladly sold my 90D after getting R5.
Hi Paul. Good for you for highlighting these issues. I've stuck to my DSLR for all of the reasons you've mentioned plus the lack of decent third party lenses (I'm a Nikon user). Won't be swapping my D850 anytime soon !
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DO IT! Get a mirrorless. It will be worth it.
Paul, You may need to change the image preview duration in the menu (red menu No7.) Mine is set to 2 secs and after I take a shot I see it for 2 secs and then the viewfinder shows the scene I'm looking at. There are a few choices for you there so see if it makes a difference as you can have it set to no image preview at all. Hope this helps.I have an R6 too and love it, and don't miss my DSLR (80D) other than the top LCD screen with the settings displayed, but I'm not paying another £2k for an R5 to get that!
Many of the issues you mentioned can be overcome. I have the R6 and very quickly got a battery grip for it. This helps with the balance and battery life. For the lag, I’ve got used to half pressing the shutter button when bringing the camera up to my eye by which time it’s usually ready to go. Not sure why you have an image in your viewfinder. Must be something you have set up.
There are things to get used to when changing over to mirrorless, but the advantages far outweigh the disadvantages.
I had a 7Dmkii for two years before moving to an R6. I agree with all the things you mentioned but I feel they are very small issues compared to the modern features. I now hand hold, all day easily, the R6 with a RF100-500. Not something you could do with an older DSLR and a Sigma 150-600. Focusing and eye tracking and low light performance are a plus. Yes I too tap a button frequently as I walk about to keep the camera awake. It is surprising to look through the viewfinder and see a non moving picture. Again get the habit after reviewing of setting up the camera to take the next shot. I went to Bempton and spent 6 hours there , took hundreds of pictures and just managed on my only battery. I keep the rear screen closed to save battery. Yes I should get a second battery. With the electronic viewfinder don't you get what you see ? I do use exp comp on one of the thumbwheels but wing, it just using how the scene looks. I've never really used histograms and in post you can move the highs and lows so much. I feel I was seduced by the modern gear and maybe I could have done better with what I had, but the modern gear helps so much.
Great video Paul some really good honest information! Lets us all know pros and cons , keep up great work👏👏
Just recently changed fron a 7d 2 and 5d 4 to the r6 2 and im just getting my head around all the different functions and the EVF.
Will take a few sessions and batteries but so far im glad i swapped up.
Your videos help a lot.
Thank you.
Really glad the videos help. it take a bit of time.
Oh my, I've been here! I've had my R5 for two and a half years and still have some habits left over from DSLRs. Despite the universal gripe about battery life, I think it's been proven that battery life is not related to how many images you shoot, but how long the sensor and displays are running. I use a short interval before powering down, even though that increases the lag to restart. I've learned to press the shutter as I start to raise the camera to minimize that. I've shut off automatic review and only use manual playback to review. Learn to love the viewfinder histogram - it's way better than looking at the screen to see the exposure. I still have a tendency to center the eye of my subject in the viewfinder so I can use center-point focus, even though that's totally unnecessary with auto eye tracking. But, after all that my success rate is way higher than before.
I haven't switched yet but I will eventually. I'm a Nikon shooter. I watched a video Steve Perry did about battery life for the Z8. He turns the camera off to conserve battery because there is not a lag at startup. When you hit the on switch its ready to shoot.
Wildlife phtographers suffer more than other genres's fellows with short life batteries because long (thus heavy) glass normally drains more baterry power than shorter ones. And maintaining the camara "awake" to have it ready for action is an additional battery sucker. I love my old, reliable and thrifty D500
Hi Paul interesting video, what you've just done is convinced me to stay with my DSLRs really enjoying my 1DX mk2 and still quite like using the mk1 as well, all five points you've made would really frustrate me, especially the battery life!
Totally agree about the image preview in the viewfinder. Totally threw me the first time it happened, and still does on occasions now.
I have been following your channel for some time and I really enjoy your very interesting videos! Please keep them coming!
After many years using 1D cameras (I started with the 1DIII in the days...) I also eventually switched from 1DX to mirrorless.
I really enjoy the reduced bulk and noise and the many benefits of the new technology but as you point out it definitely takes a bit of getting used to...
Mirrorless cameras have more advanced autofocus, but I still feel initial focus acquisition was faster with the 1DX, but then in fairness I have not tried the R3...
The fact that a little camera like the R6 can basically replace a 1DX (which in its time was way more expensive) is really pretty impressive!
The camera displays automatically a preview of your shot as a default setting. You want to change it to only show preview when you push the "play" button.
Red menu, page 7, Image review OFF.
Mirrorless technology is power hungry and one has to keep an eye on the battery level, something you never really thought about with a 1D camera.
Using the latest version Canon batteries helps. Older Canon batteries appear to drop off in power faster I found that and my compatible batteries which were ok with DSLR, performed so poorly that I stopped using them. Setting the screen to be off (black) when you do not need it is painless and saves some power.
Thank you so much for all this information. I'm going to check that 'Image Review'.
I recently tried mirrorless for the first time in the form of an Olympus EM1MK2. Many, if not all the same issues while I used it. It took about a week to rewire my brain. I have owned every EOS 1D/1Ds made, plus the first 1Dx and I really like my buttons. However, with mirrorless, there’s so many AF points to choose from that it takes forever to select the right one. If and when it comes time for me to switch to RF, I want a R5 with the AF Smart Controller from the 1Dx III/R3. I’m certain that I am not the only one.
Yes, yes and definitely yes to most of the issues you mentioned. I love the weight of the mirrorless though. For me it's the best part. I use Sony so not sure if that's why the battery issue isn't really there for me, though I doubt I'm out shooting nearly as much as you are. Always have a backup I have learned. Hitting the focus/shutter often but after time it seem just normal. I think it took me longer to get used to using silent shutter option. It still surprises me that it's taking photos... silently. Wonderful video/update. Thanks!
I moved from a 5d4 to the R5 and I have found workarounds for all these issues. (Most of which can be configured through the menus). The battery life is very similar between these two bodies but you are comparing it to a 1D series that has a much larger capacity battery. You can of course add a grip to your R6.
Hated that lag on my RP. Sold it eventually and got back to my 6D. Btw, comments like "turn off some features" to make battery last longer is really funny considering R6 price ...
hi Paul:-) I watch all your videos, I had a 1dx myself and bought, like you, an R6! I used it for 1 month and bought a 1Dx Again. I had the same problem as you. So one day I had to show some pictures to some girls I photographed on the street, but the R6 couldn't show the pictures:-( then it turned out that there was a small drop of water on the sensor under the eye piece. Then I had had enough. sold them all optics, and bought my old 1dx back, and a canon 5D mk lV - I love them both, and it will be a long time before I buy mirrorless Canon again.. mvh Leon (Denmark)
That was very interesting to read Leonard. I do think mirrorless has the advantage overall, but the cameras you have are great. It's whatever works for you!
interesting info -thanks for sharing - suggestion - as you are walking - camera by your side -- when you spot a subject --tap the shutter as you are bringing your arm up and it should be ready to focus by the time it gets to your eye
Gone from D850 to Z8. Definitely shutter lag, I use back button focus so I keep pressing one of the focus modes to keep it active, and yeah battery life sucks.
Paul, you can get a battery grip from B&H BG-R10 Battery Grip,which allow you two batteries for longer running time
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There is a way to stop the preview mode after taking a photo. So the image will not automatically popup after each shot. I don't recall how I set mine off in r5. But I am sure you will find it in the web. Good luck.
Paul, I came from an Olympus EM1MK2 to the Canon 7D2 and now shoot with the R6 and R7. I missed the OVF at first when I received my R6. The lag you mentioned frustrated me but I trained myself to half press the shutter button as I brought the camera up so no big deal there. I use back button focus. Same thing when viewing pictures actually, as soon as I’m done I half press the shutter button to clear it. It’s funny, the R7 powers up and wakes up almost instantaneously. I wonder why that couldn’t be done with the R5 and R6? I love your channel. Thank you for all you do. The dropping prices of used R5’s are tempting but I am patiently awaiting the R5 mkII. As an extra, I love the reach and pixel density of the R7 but the R6 is my go to especially in lower light. I don’t like going over ISO3200 on the R7 but I don’t worry about ISO on the R6. Take care.
I use my mirror-less cameras (Pansonic s5, Olympus e-m10 mark III) for landscape, street, portrait and travel photography. As I'm not a big sports/wildlife or action photographer , I recently bought the 1DX for £639 with less than 31k clicks because it was so cheap for what it offers. I was using the 5d mark III but will be selling the 5d III soon. You definitely highlighted some of the minor irritations of the R6 but I think the benefits will definitely outweigh the negatives for your photography needs.
I was awaiting the Canon 7DMKIII... never turned up so went instead to the 1DX, best decision I've ever made as far as photography is concerned.
Very informative. I'm working with my old EOS 300D, plus recently-acquired 20D and 7D. If I were to move to mirrorless, or add one to my kit bag, I would stick with Canon because of the ability to use my current lenses via the EF > RF adapter. But, I still have a LOT to learn about being a photographer regardless of the hardware, so I'm taking things kind of slowly. If the time comes where I feel that a mirrorless is warranted, it's very helpful that pros such as you post unbiased information like this!
Thanks very much. Make the most of what you have. The camera is a tool at the end of the day.
I do a serious amount of photography while travelling to my place in Spain. I have an inverter that plugs into the lighter socket so i can recharge a battery the moment it goes flat. I obviously have spares! The biggest pain I have with mirrorless is the AF, the focus point wanders around and sometimes just hangs on the edge, in certain case I can move it with my nose on the screen. Also it is far too easy to touch the screen and inadvertently change something like the ISO. I went mirrorless for AIAF, flexible rear screen [ for low angle work ] and continuous focusing with video and for the most part I am happy. Still I continue with my 5D4 as my Sigma lenses turn my R5 into a mindless wreck.
I upgraded from 7Dii to R7 and the biggest thing I had adjust to was setting the AF point. As sometimes I do not want Eye AF to run. As I like to have a fixed AF point for certain scene's. So configuring the set was frustrating.
As for batteries I have 5 LP-E6, of which 2 are N, 1 is the H and 2 basic. All work in the R7 and I take them with for a days shoot along with a 50,000mamp power pack and neweer battery cradle for charging outvin the field. I a few of these cradles which I put 1 in each bags I use.
I also had the 1D X, bought a EOS R as a second body to try mirrorless, but those issues were exactly the things that make me went back to DSLR, sold the EOS R, sold the 1D X, and i bought a 1D X Mark II... 🍻
Got no issues with batteries with my R6mk2 last winter was in about -20c weather taking photos and i got about 1500 images when I had full battery at start. Yes there are some differences with mirrorless versus DSLR but I definitely don’t want my old 5Dmk4 back that’s for sure 😊
I've always used mirrorless since I started back in around 2016 so I've not really had to get used to anything which is definitely a perk. This is probably just good fortune that I got into mirrorless early as it definitely seems like that's how all cameras are going to be moving forwards.
The only gripe is the battery usage. Like you I have four but invested in a USB charger and portable powerbank, it can also be used in car. Having said that, its a minor gripe compared to the results Im getting with the R5 and the EF 500mm. I'm blown away with keep rate.
I had an R7 updating from 7DII found R7 was frustrating me at everything all the points you mentioned plus rolling shutter issues, i gave it back to the shop i bought from, i dont think i will be tempted to upgraded again.
Camera Lag - when I got my R5 had the same issue. I think, it weirdly has something to do with memory cards. I had an angelbird CFEB card at first and it was unbearably slow. The Sandisk SD cards were a lot better. Now I use a prograde cobalt card, which works best for me.
I switched from the 90D to the R7. While it's nice to have the option of a fully electronic, silent shutter, I've had to get used to switching to electronic first curtain for action in order to prevent the warping effect caused by rolling shutter. This isn't as severe on the R6, because that camera's sensor has a faster readout speed than the R7. Thankfully I can switch between shutter modes with a single press of the button so it's not a huge issue, but it took some adjustment. I also find photographing small subjects in-flight like sand martins and dragonflies harder now, because a shallow depth of field seems much more pronounced through the EVF, meaning I completely lose my subject when the autofocus slips onto the background. And then there's the "smart" hotshoe, which (on my camera at least) seems to make it very easy to nudge the flash out of place, which causes the flash to overexpose. The smart hotshoe's cover is easy to lose too. All that said, I much prefer the R7 to the 90D. The EVF, animal eye detect, IBIS, and option to shoot fully silent have really improved my keeper rate. I'm much more confident in my camera in the vast majority of situations, which has made my shoots all the more enjoyable.
Great information. I think I am seeing some rolling shutter.. but I find it hard to tell sometimes!
Hey Paul, another great video. I also went from the 1DX to the R6 and felt the same about the battery issue. I ended up getting the canon BG-R10 battery grip. It holds 2 batteries and lasts me all day now. Plus it gives me a little bit of the 1DX feel. Other than that I love the R6 and have adjusted to it well.
I have the R7, and the same things could be an issue, but a few are solved by changing the settings, plus I hardly ever use the screen, as all the info I need is in the viewfinder, and the image is truer to actual cos your seeing what the sensor sees, but if there was only one reason to switch to Mirrorless it is the focus system, once used you could not ho back to dslr, I have even set up the C1,2 and 3 buttons to 3 separate options so still birds, bif and portrait for example, so moving from 500th exp, to 2500 for bif is a flick of the finger, awesome .
I have not encountered any of the issues mentioned in this video.... As I have not switched to mirrorless and never will ...😊.
1Dx does everything I need.
The Lag - i always half-press the shutter while lifting the camera since its only exposure metering. But you can press some other button to wake up the camera on the way to your eye. Dont use ECO mode, it causes all kinds of odd behaviour. 4 batteries is a must, and ideally a grip to use 2 at a time - battery life is more than x2 with the grip because without grip Canon drops frame rates on mechanical shutter from 12 to 8 at 50% battery. Not so when u have a grip, u can almost shoot at 12 fps from 100% to 5%.
I usually half-press the shutter button when I see something, that way when the camera reache my eyes it is already on. I always turn off the picture review mode on every camera, so it does not display me anything after I took the picture. If I want to see what I took I can always push the playback button.
I will stay away from mirrorless as long as I can... I have a 1DX MK1 and its fabulous, combined with good glass this is more than enough for what most photographers ever need. .....
DSLR cameras are good in other aspects as well, say when I shoot portraits or a model for example, then both parties benefit from actually hearing the shutter, and it creates a (slight) bond & "understanding" between the shooter and photographer. The feedback is that both know what is happening and when its happening with a heavy click/click/click to confirm.....
Really appreciate your thoughts. I actually like the click too - although for very shy species it's great to be silent.
Since I didn't upgrade my Canon DSLR to MILC but Nikon, my difficult experience from D3 to Z6 (with & w/o battery grip) were ergonomic, non-intuitive AF interface and battery life. Luckily, all's well with the Z9 (v3 firmware).
I had battery issues but solved it by buying a Battery Grip, the only downside is the extra weight but having swapped from a 5D mk4 i never noticed the difference.
I bought an R6 last year and it makes me feel like my 5DIII is a really old, outdated machine. The battery life of the R6 doesn't worry me as the batteries are not expensive (I have 7) and I can still use my old 5DIII batteries. The thing I don't like about my R6 is that it's only 20 Mp. If I want to crop a small bird pic, it's not possible. The R5 is better on that point but a lot more expensive.
I let my R5 and R7 go to sleep and when I pull them up to shoot I lightly half press the shutter button. When I get the camera to my eye it is awake and ready to shoot. I have been doing this I got the cameras and it is just muscle memory.
I found battery life to be much more dependent on time the camera is on, not in sleep, vs pictures taken. I can get 2000 shots on a single charge, or I can get 600, it depends on how I use the camera. This is true with both my R5 and R7. If you let the camera go to sleep and get used to pressing the shutter button as you pull the camera to your eye, the battery will last longer. There are other settings you can use to increase the battery life as well. That said, I carry two cameras and two spare batteries when I go out shooting.
I think I'll be sticking with my 1DX mk1, had a smaller camera body with a big lens, never felt right and ofthen thought of the strain on the Cameara lens mount, stlll nowt to sway me away from a DSLR with a mirror.
Very interesting....I haven't yet made the switch from my Nikon D810 as I'm so familiar with it, but some of the mirrorless functions really appeal to me. You've made me think.....Hmm, I think I'll keep my current set up for a while and monitor developments.. thanks for sharing your experiences...
These are just the things that irritate me. Overall this camera is better for me than my DSLR. But I still kind of miss the DSLR!
@@PaulMiguelPhotography Thanks. As I get older the lighter weight and new features do appeal, but I have so much expensive glass.... Thanks for an interesting channel and sharing it with us.
I find the image in the viewfinder very frustrating because when you see it the brain takes a little time to wonder what is going on before you realise what is happening and this can take a second or so and you can lose the shot.
Interesting, I don't really feel that. But I still find the EVF a bit weird
At 3 minutes the best advice you could give is not stand there waving a camera outdoors exposing the sensor, especially as that camera has a sensor cover when switched off :-)
Different feeling and handling on mirrorless
I moved from a canon 80d to the r7,I'll never go back.
No lag with Nikon Z9
Disable Eco mode - set up menu (spanner) 2?
Thanks. I will check that out!
@@PaulMiguelPhotography , probably won’t improve battery life though 🤣
Biggest thing for me is the mirrorless are so flimsy compared to 1DX
It feels like that at first for sure! I guess I'm used to it now.. but if I pick up the DX - wow.. what a difference
I'm curious about the focus speed between the 2. Im on the edge with upgrading with all the hype about eye tracking focus. (I mostly shoot sports) any thoughts. ?
If you just used a normal focus, like expanded focus point for example, I'd say it's similar. But the eye focus and subject tracking (e.g. large zone AF) is considerably better. When it locks on it is usually excellent, there are just situations where it might not lock on. Rob Sambles on RUclips is good on this, he shoots sports.
Is there a reason you have not bought a battery grip. Seems like a no brainer, better handling and extra shooting time. I use grips on my DSLR's going back to my old Canon 5D's. I like you vids. but this one confuses me.
Is the transition mandatory? I don't want to part with my DSLR and lens arsenal.
Thanks for the video.
Not at all. I thought very hard before changing. A good DSLR is still worthwhile in my opinion. My mirrorless however allows me to do things my DSLR just couldn't do
What is a good replacement for 1DX from another brand or even from Canon rather than 1DX2 or 1DX3? I want to get a replacement for my Canon 1D3 first, then later i can think about a replacement for 1DX if necessary, but i feel like i will hold longer on my 1DX until i see that mirrorless camera affordable enough to outperform DSLR mainly 1DX line for sports/actions still burst, i am not a videographer.
I've never really used other brands. For Canon I don't think there's much I would replace the 1DX with. It's a great camera - just heavy.. and noisy! I'm very happy with the R6 now.
@@PaulMiguelPhotography I am happy with 1DX and i have no big reason or even a strong issue to replace it, it is only that i want to replace to be upgraded to latest technologies, that is why i wanted to gt rid of 1D3 first as it is really not that great camera anymore, but 1DX served me perfectly, and the weight isn't a problem for me.
Would you recommend switching to an R6 over a 1D X?
I’ve recently bought a 1DX which is/was my dream camera but I’m worried about the discontinuation of EF lenses (even though I buy secondhand only)
Im worried that this change is fundamental and maybe I should be swapping over to the R6 over the 1D X or do you reckon I’m safe sticking with the 1DX or should I be looking to make the move?
The DX along with EF lenses is still great equipment. You'll benefit from a silent shutter.. and focus is better. But if what you have works, you do not have to change. You will find it harder over time to get the EF lenses and another issue is repairing lenses - so if it's an older EF lens the likelihood is you couldn't get it repaired.
P.S, love your videos, learn alot.Eric Pa
i pray that Paul will receive $$ shortly to acquire the EOS R3 .... soon. He deserves it. same battery as the 1Dx
Bless you! Yes, to be honest, that is probably the camera for me!
The challenge I faced was not having enough money to go anywhere to use the camera because of inflation and the cost of the camera. ;-)
Do mirrorless cameras make better photographs?
I have an R5 and regularly take between 2-3k photos with one battery - never need to change it.
It would be fairer to comapre the 1DX to an R3, particularly concerning battery life. Also, switch off auto review.
get a battery grip !!!!
Complain that R6 is different from your 🦖?