BRUTALLY HONEST | Flying Economy Class to CALGARY on KLM's rather old Airbus A330-300!
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- Опубликовано: 28 мар 2024
- KLM is often portrayed as one of Europe's best airlines. However, I am just not able to become a fan, as there is plenty of room for improvements.
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FLIGHT INFORMATION
Airline: KLM Royal Dutch Airlines
Aircraft: Airbus A330-300
Registration: PH-AKA
Flight Time: 8h 30min / 0h 35min
Seat: 35J
From: Amsterdam Schiphol
Via: Edmonton International
To: Calgary International
Date: October 2021
EQUIPMENT INFORMATION
Cameras used: Canon R6 (Canon 15-35mm F2.6 and Canon 35mm F2.0), Canon G7X Mark III, GoPro Hero 8 Black, DJI Osmo Pocket
Additional equipment used: GoPro Suction Cup, Rode VideoMic Pro+, Rode smartLav+, Rode Wireless Go 2, Blue Yeti Podcast Microphone
PRICE BREAKDOWN
Total Price: EUR 596.40
Total Routing: VIE-AMS-YEG-YYC, YYZ-CDG-VIE
Booked through: KLM Website
Cost includes: Economy Class Ticket including one checked bag and free seat reservations
Booking made: September 2021
VIDEO BREAKDOWN
00:00 - Introduction
00:28 - Boarding
01:08 - Cabin and Seat
02:42 - Taxi and Take Off
05:02 - Inflight Entertainment
05:49 - Lunch Service
06:43 - Inflight
07:38 - Self-Service Snack Bar
07:58 - Pre-Landing Snack
08:18 - Approach and Landing
09:18 - Layover in Edmonton
10:00 - Delay
10:37 - Take Off
11:13 - Conclusion
12:14 - Landing
13:29 - Outro
COLLABORATION DISCLAIMER
This video does not contain product placements. The airline was neither involved nor informed about the production of this Tripreport. The ticket fare was paid by ourselves.
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Another good brutally honest episode, though I do want to note that this is recorded during the pandemic. Normally, KLM does offer the bread roll and from my experience they have always done the pre-lunch drink. I hope it will come back or it may have already come back by now tbh. KLM has reverted most pandemic measures.
Thanks for the information sir
A lot of my friends have travelled with KLM during the pandemic and they said now they provide bread rolls and pre lunch drinks.
Thank you for this video!
I absolutely LOVE flying with KLM, especially on their A330s. I choose them all the time when travelling between eastern Canada and the middle east, and they almost always use their A330-200s which have the upgraded cabins and are more comfortable than their 787s or 777s.
Their service is more than fine by my standards, and I agree that their cabin crew is consistently super friendly and motivated and helpful.
Easily my favourite European airline.
KLM's -200's are not upgraded right in terms of cabin? I thought both -200 and -300 didn't get upgraded due to being phased out in a couple of years.
It’s a bead airliner and reutation
Pillows are in fact available on intercontinental flights, but they are only handed out to passengers by the cabin crew on demand. They carry only a limited amount to reduce turnaround times
Ive always wanted to see the Oman Air 787 Dreamliner in economy class!
Im very excited, every video that comes out of this channel is high in quality, and I look forward to it every time.
Your wish came true bro
Really cool report, fantastic views outside, thanks for the honest review, we love it!
First! 😊😜
I have flown KLM a number of times starting in the 70s. My favorite aircraft was the 747. They have an unusual galley behind first class. The staff were also friendly. Plus you can collect the KLM Dutch miniature houses.
The Lil houses are only available in business class
It’s craazy
Nice to see another Canadian destination! ❤️🇨🇦
Always love seeing your trip reports and brutally honest reports. Glad to see another one! It has been a while since I saw one! Don't know why I never subscribed before this, but made a point of subscribing now! Keep up the good work!
kinda strange how they massively upgraded the 747-400 cabins just a few years before they were retired and still leave the A330-300 with the old cabin.
They weren't supposed to phase out the 747 so early, that obviously happened due to the pandemic.
most of the a330 are upgraded tho
It’s the most bad airliner of europe
@@willemlenteren1485 most bad is not a word Willem! And it's fase! So you're wrong!
The situation of clearing immigration and checking in again is common. I’ve flown on Qantas’ MEL-LAX and then on the tag flight to JFK where we had to do the same process. It’s understandably annoying…
i believe it has something to do with Covid rules since historically I have gone through YUL and YYZ from international to domestic without needing to clear security again. had this same issue of having to collect my bag and recheck at YUL last summer when i hadn't been required to in the past for the exact same itinerary. something about the testing requirements and possible quarantine of some passengers.
@@aselwyn1 yes true. My experiences were all pre-covid, where it’s a US customs and immigration arrangement upon your initial arrival into the country.
Fantastic video! I'm really impressed by the legroom.
Yes! Keep the Brutally Honest videos coming, they are my favorite and by far you guys are really honest with your reviews.
Flown with KLM on planes such as the Boeing 747-400 and A330s between Toronto and Amsterdam in the early 2010s myself. I always had an amazing time with the Airline. Love the video as well, makes me feel like I am flying between Canada and The Netherlands again. 🥰
Another fantastic trip report David, I love KLM!😸😸
Don’t try it
Another amazing episode!! When you boarded and I saw you were flying in the old cabin I at first thought like I hope it’ll survive this brutally honest review😅 But I’m glad you liked it! For years I’ve been dreaming to become cabin crew at KLM and every year I see the possibility to apply finally coming closer and closer (you need to be 21 to apply and I’m currently 18). Almost all of KLM’s A330’s are equipped with their new cabin, but I don’t know why this one isn’t. Especially while their business class on this aircraft has been renewed. Again, I’m glad you liked it, and hopefully see you on board in the future☺️
Great to see! Actually funny to mention that I've replaced those seat covers. Nonetheless KLM is a great company which is in my opinion a worthy dutch company to be proud of
Thanks for the tip. I changed my seat to 35A as I'm a leftie and I often prefer the left side of the plane. Window view will be useful on arrival from Toronto into Amsterdam.
Nice Episode! Over one third of all my flights I did with KLM, even I'm German. But due to the mentioned fact, that the crews of KLM are super friendly, flexible and carrying about their passengers, I would and will choose KLM before any other mayor airline in Europe.
Most are very rude to costumers
@@willemlenteren1485 then why is every comment related to flying KLM mentioning their kind and respectful FAs?
I'm glad to see that my country's airline is so good
It’s a mess onboard there sir
Decades ago KLM offered an AMS-YHZ-YYZ routing. But when Canada Customs changed the rules so that you had to clear customs at the first landing airport they dropped the YHZ stop. It is interesting that they go through the hassle of a YEG stop now.
The YEG stop was just a thing during covid, as there wasn't enough demand for standalone YYC and YEG routes due to travel restrictions. Both airports have since regained their own nonstop routes with KLM.
Another awesome BA video, especially since this one featured my hometown Edmonton! One small thing, the t in Edmonton is a hard t, so it's Ed-mon-ten instead of Ed-mon-en :)
Loved seeing the KLM experience, since they finally restarted the Edmonton to Amsterdam route, I can't wait to check it out myself!
Thanks for letting me know! :)
@@simply_aviation A closer pronunciation is EDD-mun-tin, with the last vowels almost not pronounced.
Haha same I’m also from Edmonton and hope to try this route!
2:57 ohh, on right, that garuda!!!!!
It's been a while since i travelled, so its Nice to watch these reports until i can again
you guys are the best youtubers cuz you fly econ on weird airlines and are honest...you dont expect much but the basics and i like that
A really nice video. Thanks for showing your trip to us :)))
Hi David
How do you put the expectation met tag like at 1:35
Agree that KLM crews are always well above the industry average. Nice video, thank you.
No it’s far below zero it’s not what it seems
Watching your reports always, but this one STANDS OUT, because I could see our house and neighbourhood when you flew over Edmonton (Millwoods). In fact I designed that neighbourhood around 1975/76 and choose that lot so I can see the planes from Europe coming in.(no KLM in those days, just CP air or Air Canada) I still film the KLM flights often when they come over.
Same I don't live in Edmonton anymore, i live north of the city. But i recognized it and highway 19 where the landing runway instantly!
Amazing KLM A330-300 !👍🏼👍🏼
2:14 I remember Aeroflot's A330s having those exact remotes, but they were housed right below the screen.
A330 ... i love plane
nice video man!
I flew on PH-AKA from Calgary to Amsterdam 6 years ago!
Nice review!
I'm confused - aren't there two separate flights from AMS to either YYC or YEG?
There is now. During covid they merged the two routes as the travel restrictions lowered demand, and flying the two separately wasn't economical.
@@specialcb oh I see. tnx for answer.
You are keep saying Edmond instead of Edmonton 😅
What a wonder journey, love all the series and videos, I m waiting for a #BrutallyHonest for #Tunisair ^^
2:38, The seat cabin is almost similar to China Eastern airlines, Airbus A330-200 and 300, but the outdated seat cabin.
Does this flight arrive in YYC as a domestic then?
Yes, exactly. No further need to clear immigration in YYC.
Great flight. I'm curious, is this flight considered as 8th Freedom flight? Next, I hope you are trying Air Greenland.
dude I was litterally on my bike when I saw this plane on its approach to calgary
Wow you must have flown in the very last A330 with the old seat arrangement. That’s quit something. This brings me back when I used to fly with the 747 quite often
I love flight reports with KLM and especially when the destination is Canada 🇨🇦
definitely keeping that blanket if i get one
Thanks for a great video, but.... "good legroom" in the cabin - compared to what? How tall are you, 1.80cm, 1.65cm or 1.95cm?
1.80m, compared to Economy Class in general, across all airlines.
@@simply_aviation Thanks👍
I once went on an Air Canada flight from Sydney, (Australia) to Toronto, via Vancouver, all with the same plane. You have to clear immigration and do the whole security thing at Vancouver, and always significant delays occur. This was back in 2013, so it seems nothing has changed. The Canadian government need to work with airlines to try and implement a far smoother transit process. As it currently stands, it is very stressful.
I flew the KLM to Curacao in october. On the departing jurney on an A330-300 with as stop in St.Maarten and on the return flight directly to Amsterdam on a B777. The B777 is way better in my opinion. Espacially if you are on the taller side. These Boxes on the airbus do really get in the way.
Thank you!
KLM is one of those airlines that I love. They aren’t necessarily going to do things luxuriously, but they have such an extensive destination list that it makes them one of the most important carriers in the World.
It’s bad service most time
David this series has become my favorite on this channel. The tripreports are great but sometimes reports from flights almost 3 years ago are posted and as a result of the pandemic the product offered has changed so the report isnt really valid anymore.
love klm and especially that safety video ❤
Not only on KLM but also check how long it will take you to charge your mobile with that usb plug... once on a BA flight jnb - lhr, it took the whole flight!
I don’t know when you purchased Canon R6 but congrats on obtaining this monster!
Oh my. I Flew a KLM Dreamliner and I think Quit Brand new and it was a wow from Amsterdam to Calgary almost around late August. It had windows that go dark by the push of a button. There was tea Service in the Sky too. However it was a Lemon Tart but still very good. They gave me rools and a Vegie pasta and the Second one before landing a Pizza like thing. It was in Economy class but the Leg room and Service was still very good.
That's it. The landing thing was kind of like yours you had
I flew on the same aircraft between Boston and AMS recently. The economy class seat was terribly small. Their 777-200 and A330 have small seats, after flying on these planes to Mumbai I took a flight on Indigo. Indigo's A320 has better leg room and seat size, similar to what we get on Emirates A380 economy. KLM's 787-X has a better seating and also Delta's A330 on the same routes.
I agree that KLM's crews are outstanding. Not my choice for transatlantic flights since the end of 747 service.
It's nice how you provided the narration for this entire video during this flight perhaps I should do something like that as well
Thanks for reviewing this flight as it was good as usual! Appreciate you visiting my home as this city is great! Also it is pronounced edmon ton not edmonon, but still great video!
Um. Edmonton and Calgary are in Continental Canada so a stop here in Edmonton for KLM is kind of a weird decision
The decision to use Edmonton as a stop made sense at the time. It was only during covid, as there wasn't enough travellers to fill separate routes to Calgary and Edmonton. They've both got their own routes back now though, no more stopovers.
i have tried klm on the 11 hour flight to San Fran, it's always my favorite flight
Only unfriendly
You finally went to Calgary on klm 👏
I’ll do that from Calgary to Amsterdam at MSFS
Great report! Would like to mention all of KLM's A330's will be retired in 2025. I flew them long haul in april of 2021. A time the pandamic was at a high and no one entering the netherlands was allowed to enter without quarentine and test. Even during that time i had a pillow and blanket and got a bread roll on my 9 hour flight, weird to not see it on this flight.
It’s a mess up that airliner
Hello! Nice review 😁
Congratulations you're first
What RUclips filming equipment do you need?
Did you meet up with Alex Praglowski when you landed in Calgary?
Who's he
@@Gaurav_Sharma3112 He's an aviation enthusiastic from Calgary. Search up his channel.
@@CaptravelsAviation oh ok btw can I be ur bro
Or course I did! :)
@@simply_aviation hey
Thank u 4 video :) hopfully i can go 2 Toronto next yr 😊🙂🏴does this airline fly from Heathrow....
They fly between Heathrow and Amsterdam 10 times per day. Amsterdam is the only city that KLM connects Heathrow to with a direct flight.
1 stop in Canada? Amazing!
3:05 wow I saw Garuda Indonesia Airlines
I haven't flown on KLM before simply because they don't make it out to where I live (Australia) however I frequent Europe often and will definetlly add them to my list the next time I find myself there.
On April 1, 2022 my wife and I flew from Johannesburg to Amsterdam a 10 hours and 15 minutes on a 777-300, in what the call “Europe Economy”, what ever that was, I had booked comfort economy, but at check in we were told it was overbooked, even though we had arrived almost 3 hours before flight time. It was one of the worst flights we have had in years. The leg room was very tight, the seats were thinly padded, with narrow short arm rests. The food was of indifferent quality. The plane was plane was packed, the crew remained friendly and gave service with a smile. My gripe is really about the cramped, uncomfortable seating for a long haul flight. (WHAT IS EUROPE ECONOMY?). The plane was late leaving Johannesburg, and we missed our connection to Boston. We were rebooked on a flight to New York instead, but at least we were seated in comfort economy.
Why does this flight stop over in Edmonton with all that fuss? I would rather it just went direct to Calgary. Surely it doesn’t take that long to get from Calgary to Edmonton by bus/train?
Probly Edmonton has as much people exiting the plane as Calgary does. and why not combine it? Think normaly the fuss is not a thing.. or at least pre corona was not a thing
Bus takes 3h, and it's very expensive
No train
The stop was only because covid restrictions meant there wasn't enough people travelling to fill two separate routes. The two cities have since got their direct KLM services back.
Edmonton to Calgary is around a 3.5h drive/bus ride, and there are no trains connecting the two.
Hello, please review the business class of klm on transatlantic route. Thank you. All in all simply aviation always consistently beyond my expectation.
:O the cabin is so nice
I do appreciate all your Brutally Honest episodes. Especially because you manage to always stay as objective as possible. Yet, I do not agree with you on the friendliness of the crews. Yes, they are not Lufthansa, but I dont think (being German myself) it can get worse than Lufthansa. I have been a Platinum Flying Dutchman and afterwards Platinum Flying Blue member for over 25 years consistently and stopped flying KLM altogether, because the crews became more and more "coudn't be bothered less" up to a straight forward"Lufthansanian" attitude. I own 3 full sets of houses from 1-99, just to give you a hint of how good a customer I was. Happily I'd return to KLM, once I hear their service and friendliness increases substantilly overall.
Excellent video.
Weird about the lack of pillow, I had one when I went to Singapore with KLM in November 2021. Same with the bread rolls... I'm guessing there is going to be excuse of covid somewhere here.
Nice video! ✈
Aaah Greenland, so beautiful.
Man that view is beatifull and the mountains are insane
If you want to get this great view of Greenland, you have to avoid the 787 Dreamliner because the cabin crews of all(?) airlines dim the windows (against your will!) shortly after take off :-(!
Yay new video
Nice video! I live in Calgary!
KLM crew is just on point every time. They are not too serious but like to joke around a bit too.
But the service is still great; i got wished a pleasant connection flight to Alicante when disembarking in AMS. It was in economy class.... How does that even happen?
It’s not a serious airliner
Thank you for actually pronouncing CALGARY correctly :)
Please remind us of your height when commenting on leg-room.
It would have cost KLM about 2e to bring the meal up to scratch.
As for crews, please do comment on them in every review.
My own experiences with KLM, pre-pandemic, have been pretty good. Their long-distance flights seem to be good value-for-money and I'd be tempted to fly with them again once their operational performance gets back to normal.
It’s not so good
Height is irrelevant, what you need is buttock to knee length.
Bro this is my flight that left after I came to Amsterdam for a connection to Ghana
Hey David welcome back to your brutally honest season... Happy to see your videos...I think in future this route will be replaced by 787 Dreamliners
Definitely. The A330 is slowing fading away.
most likely by the 787-10
@@nickolliver3021 ...or the 787-9, depending on how many passengers KLM wants to fit on one flight...
@@thmsrttg agreed
yes, the 787 -10 is the perfect replacement for the a330-300, I would be surprised if KLM ordered more -10. They can also order the 330-300, but better the 787-10 because it is made specifically for regional long flights.
You are exactly right ! Canada's custom rules are extremely confusing and a waste of time and money. Specially in Toronto at Peasons Airport. KLM the Best !!!
It’s not so good
Since KLM is my national carrier we only fly them exclusively but I didn't know they still have these and seats on a couple A330s.
They have a bad reputation
Flew their dreamliner from Amsterdam to Toronto last year, superb flight. Service was spot on. And all the economy features are outstanding for the price. However on my return trip, I had to go home from Chicago to Amsterdam in their A330. You can really feel that this plane is outdated and the seating space was defo not comforting for the 9 hour flight. Cabin crew seemed super pissed overall, and didn't bother much with basic services (refused giving an extra drink for food, which I have never witnessed before on previous flights) not the best professional image. But overall klm is a cool company to fly with. You get what you pay for.
It’s not good anymore
How long you boarding a business class
Damnnnn that's the best view
Make a review of air belgium's new a330-900
I love Brutally Honest
Awesome!
Can you please do the trip report of that video if possible please?
And the KLM Technical Service is the Best in Aviation.
Nobody’s very good noloyed prople
Why do most of airlines have the same type of seat for a330
because the 330 is made specifically for that just as the 787, the only difference is that the 787 get late for the opportunity. 2-4-2 is based on almost all old carriers and basically because the profitability is getting more up, these seats disappear for more. And the 787 came for that age unfurtinally.
never seen "Expectation not met" before...
Klm crew are one of the best in the industry
No very bad and unfriendly and arrogant
Good job